Google Nest Thermostat 2020 vs Nest Learning Thermostat
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Google has released a NEW Nest Thermostat in 2020. It's budget friendly at $129 but, hos does it compare to the more expensive Nest Learning Thermostat? That's what i'll be going over in this video.
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I’ve owned both. The plastic Google version is jenkie. The original Nest thermo is the way to go, in my opinion. The user interface is superior and so is the original Nest app.
People keep saying that the new one looks cheaper, but I agree with you - the new one simply looks like a more modern, minimalist version of luxury. It's like the difference between a traditional Rolls Royce interior and a modern S Class interior. Different design philosophies
Totally. I still like the new look better.
Remember when your thermostat was just something that came with the house and you never, ever thought of changing it?
Like the locks? No.
@@ArmandoJF33 You should change your locks when you buy new house.
@@cekpi7 that went way over your head
😂😂😂
I personally can do with the basic thermostats that our house came with. However this weekend we accidentally broke ours sooooo while on the hunt to buy a replacement we really stopped and considered what we want from a new thermostats. For example my room has 4 vents and my sisters only has one. That means my room is either always too cold or too hot because for her it runs the opposite way around. Also in the living room upstairs I have all my exotic plants that I have been struggling with lately because everyone else is too hot so they crank up the ac so its 60 or so but those plants have to be at a constant 70. Well I was pleasantly surprise to find that there is a thermostat that can regulate each rooms temperature individually. Also I hate having the heater on during the winter, but everyone else runs too cold and set it at flipping 75-85 which means I wake up drenched. This thermostats sound like I would be able to control it directly with my phone without having to do my usual 2 am sprint across the house to lower the heat. This is on the off chance the sensors are a flop. So sure it’s not really a necessity but I like paying for comfort if life allows it.
I've been curious about this one. I've got the gen 3 and so far see no need to switch. Thanks for the review.
No issues with wifi connection? Mine died after 3mo. Check out w5 issues on Google forum. It's been 2mo since first posting issue and still no replacement unit from Google.
@@hyunkim4351 none on the thermostat side. My wifi has gone down occasionally but that's nothing to do with the thermostat.
I've got 3rd gen. I like the look of the mirror screen and it looks way more modern but less premium definitely. I dont think I'd swap them out
Good information, thank you for sharing. The one additional question is: from an 'energy savings' standpoint, are both equivalent? That was a big selling point of the nest thermostats, I am wondering if this 'budget' versions also downgrades that particular quality?
Just installed the new Nest thermostat and I absolutely love it. I don’t care about the “learning” features of the other model. I think the new Nest thermostat looks awesome and I love the display. Especially great for the price.
I use my sensors all the time. Office day. Living room evening. Matter bedroom at night. They are a game changer
Hmmm... so the sensor. If I put it in the master bedroom (coldest room in the house), it’ll blow air until that temp on the sensor in that room reaches?! 👍🏿
@@stk57thst yes
Love it! I installed both at my house, I really like the glass mirror look. It feels more premium than the older traditional nest. Plus in home decor the white looks beautiful and doesn't stand out too much, whereas the traditional nest stood out too much.
You can have both of these installed without an issue? I am planning on buying these but I have two thermostats currently. I might put the learning one down stairs and the cheaper one upstairs.
Ok, I had the cheaper Nest but am switching to the $250 Learning version because 1) the Nest app is much nicer to use than Google Home 2) There is no lock feature on the cheap one. 3) The expensive one will operate and recharge itself on a system without a Common wire. This last part is huge!!!! No batteries to die or replace. If you don’t have a Common wire, pay the extra. I learned this the hard way. 😢
Aside from the cosmetics,what are the functions I will be missing if I go with the cheaper option?
I am here a year later still trying to figure out what is the difference other than cosmetic
I'm about to purchase mine, definitely not going onto the mirror one. I'm all new to these gadgets but when I do my research and read all the reviews, it does helps me to make good decisions.
Another excellent review. Thank you. I thought about getting some remote sensors, but didn’t see the value either. Seems like remote sensors would mostly be helpful if your HVAC has multiple zones.
Do you prefer ecobee or nest?
My best went out and my HVAC guy said ecobee is way better and nest is always breaking on his clients. But idk if I like how the ecobee features run.
What’s your opinion which would you choose if you had to choose one?
I just added the new Nest Thermostat to my Mr. Heater 50,000btu garage heater... it's working great. I like that I can control the temperature of my garage from anywhere....I can warm my garage(shop) up from my phone prior to coming home or going out to it.
I love my nest learning thermostat but was considering of upgrading to the newest one. However, I lost interest when I found out it doesn’t work through the nest app. Especially since all my nest gadgets (smoke alarm, cameras, doorbell, and thermostat) all run through the app…
You failed to highlight the most important difference which is that the new thermostat doesn't use AI/ML to learn your patterns and optimize you're temperature schedule/profile. Aside from aesthetics and integration into the Google Home app, as far as I can tell, the new thermostat doesn't have any more intelligence than other programmable thermostats on the market. At the end of the day, you still manually set up your own temperature schedule/profile, it's just that you do it through the Google Home app. Of course, you can control the temp remotely with the app, but does this really constitute a "smart thermostat?"
You’re right, it’s in my notes but didn’t make it in the video. :/ I wasn’t a fan of it learning my patterns. I kept getting mad at my wife to adjusting the thermostat and she said she never touched it. I found it kept adjusting to temps that I didn’t want. Guess I just wasn’t used to my thermostat “adjusting” the temp 30 minutes after I manually changed it. Haha
@@SteveDOES Agree, that's the biggest selling point of this for me, coming from a Nest Learning Gen 1, I HATE the "learning" function
@@SteveDOES Same... I never use the learning function and actually find it quite annoying -- especially since mine seem to do it by themselves and even turn on the indoor blower for random reasons
It no longer works with Alexa.
@@johnnola504 A late response, but It works fine with Alexa now. Maybe there was an update.
I definitely prefer the 3rd gen looks much nicer.
I 'downgraded' from the Learning Thermostat to this new Thermostat. Installation was just as easy. Use of it remains to be seen. I hardly touch the physical thermostat, I normally do adjustments through the app or through the Nest Hub or Alexa app. I didn't realize however, that the Termostat would not be available through the Nest app and now have to go through the Google Home app. Little disappointed in that because my Nest Cameras and Protect devices are still on the Nest App. Oh well lessons learned. As far as the new Thermostat, I definitely like the cleaner look of it. I've had the Learning Thermostat since it came out and felt I needed/wanted an upgrade.
One function I am wanting in my first Smart thermostat is complete schedule programming for the fan. With either of these thermostats - can you program the fan to run all night like 10pm - 6am regardless if the Heat/AC is needed…. And also then just go to Automatic through the day - meaning it comes on only when the Heat/AC needs to run!? I like the fan on to move air while we sleep for the noise and air movement - but do not want to waste electricity when we are not home through the day. Also with the fan - is there a “recycle” type setting - where the fan would come on periodically to move air through the house - but would not require the fan to just be on all day/schedule long? The rest of the programming I’m sure works fine - but I want to know I can program just the fan completely!? TIA!
I just bought the plastic one. It looks a bit better and clean imo. Thank you for this vid
I have R & H for heat. To provide power in nest learning thermostat I use 24v transformer and connect to Rc and C. In this new thermostat how would I do that? double up on R and then connect to C?
Looking forward to comparison of Ecobee & Nest!!!
My local utility gave it to me for free. So it was a no brainer. Will be installing it tomorrow. Weather finally up from the crazy cold!!
Have you heard if the nest thermostat will interfere with a hvac system that has its own ai? I'm moving to a new house and they said that the nest thermostat has screwed up some hvac systems in the past and will void the warranty on the hvac system breaks due to the nest thermostat?
Thank you. To the point and great comparison which I found very helpful as, like most folks, I'm trying to figure out what to buy. I've had a NEST before and loved it. After watching this I might try the Google version as I need 2.... Or I still like the NEST..
The plastic one is real sucks. 2 things that’s super bad:
- unresponsive control. It so annoying when you scrolling, but it’s not.. aghh;
- in light room, when sun on windows side, display has bad visibility, not enough brightness.
And also 2 common issues of all nest thermostats (but I hope it will be fixed in 2024 generation):
- battery issue. After 6+ months customers reporting about not working power ;
- WiFi. Also, wifi module can burn out after a some months.
You can still contact with Google and replace the device if warranty not end.
Idk. I like learning thermostat with metal ring. Nice control and interface. But still have those 2 problems. So if you decided to buy, buy it new from manufacturer or official distributor, to have a real warranty.
I like the old school one. You can also check your local energy company because there’s often rebates on nest stuff. I think I got my nest for 150 bucks.
BigJames83 man my light bill was zero bucks last month best investment ever!!
Note I stay in a one bedroom apartment just me and my wife but still this is a blessing fr to not really have a light bill and blast ac to my liking lol
Thanks
Google nest cost about $80 on Amazon and there is rebate from your electric company
I know its a year later but this unit wont let you lock screen to keep others from adjusting the temperature like the older model. Feature was great for Airbnb or rooming houses. No lock screen or range control. Im thinking of switching just because of this
Which one are you referring to?
Got a Nest as a gift last month. It does not seem to like my 1989 furnace. I have it set at 69 from 10pm to 3 am and then move to 73 at 3am so that when we get up for work, early, there is heat in the house. THere are days that the Nest Learning does not follow the schedule and the house is cold even up to 7 am. So then I move the app to a degree higher and still the furnace does not come on. I am very frustrated. The old thermostat started the furnace immediately if moved up.
thank you! you made it so easy to pick one! I love videos like these honest and straight forward (:
Does the Google nest come with batteries? I have an old wall heater, so bought a 24 volt adapter specifically for thermostats. If the thermostat has batteries it seems I don’t need the 24 volt adaptor. Is that correct?
How I turn Fan on only without AC? I have the NEST thermostat. On the app, Select a mode there is no option for "fan" only Heat, Cool, Heat/Cool and Off. If I go out to to where temperature is, there are 4 icons. The last one is the fan, there is will ask me how long to run fan but it will state Cooling. So AC is on now. Can you help?
Thanks - great summary. Will help since my 1st smart thermostat
I love it! I will be swapping out my 1980s to the newer one!😊
I have a question. Could the google nest thermostat run wirelessly? The reason I asked is bc I have a Honeywell thermostat and it’s wireless for my upstairs and downstairs thermostat. I hooked up the google nest thermostat, hard wired it in but it would not work. I tried ever video that I could find on RUclips and it still would not work. Remember my Honeywell thermostat is wireless and is not hard wired. How could I get the google nest to work?
Does the Google Nest Thermostat 2020 work with ducted units? I dont have an remote its a tablet on the wall
Just bought this and can't get it install. It keeps saying that it's not compatible. I just moved into a fairly new home that was built in 2007 and the old thermostat was White Rodgerr IF79. Supposedly it's compatible with the old 3rd gen Nest but how would I find out about this new one since it does has 10% less compatibility than the 3rd gen Nest?
It mostly has to do with the wires. On the Google Nest site there is a link to check compatibility. I would check there.
Do you have to use the schedule? I find them super annoying, and would much rather set a heat and cool temp, and if I need to change it when I go out of town, etc, I can just turn it up or down as needed. Otherwise, seems like it's a good deal.
No, you don’t have to setup a schedule.
@@SteveDOES Thx!
I have a question . Can you lock so people don’t mess with it
How does the temperature programing change? I'm a 2nd shifter who works weekends. The nest 3rd gen gives me full freedom to easily program using crazy hours. Like waking up at 12pm and going to bed around 3am.
Do Google Nest Thermostats work with Ductless systems? I have an HVAC that comes with a remote control not a control unit like I guess central air has. Any ideas how they would work? Otherwise for my system it would just apply to the heating service not the cooling units.
I just picked up the 3rd gen with a $100 off from a coupon from my power company. So for $30 you can't beat it.
I beat it. My power company offered $129 savings.
Mine did not come with the backplate. 🤷♀️ I’m finding they are hard to find with the different size. Amazon, no go. Even returning one that says it works with this generation.
Im looking for something that I can schedule, but on certain days change it just for a day or two. For example, instead of the heating coming at 6am in the morning tomorrow I want it to come on at 8. Is this easy to do it this app?
Have you tested to see if the thermostat actually controls the temperature automatically according to the programmed schedule? Mine does not.
Has been a pain for me I can't get it to accept the 4 letter code after entry key.
I think first time buy absolutely. But if you have the higher end one, its not worth the downgrade
Really just wanted to know about the reliability of the geofencing.
Very helpful and informative. TY.
One detail I didn't hear mentioning is the screen display has a sensor to turn on when it feels a person nearby, very annoying every time I pass the screen lights up, any way to disable this?
How to connect Nest Thermostat to control the humidifier?
Love the video and love the new thermostat. I just wish I would have watched the video before buying it because I spent over 30 minutes wondering why I couldn’t add it to the nest app. I am now subscribed to your channel so I can find out before I buy!
I currently have the mirrored. Love the look but have to change to the premium. My new two stage heat pump is not working properly with the mirrored. Downside...I struggled with changing the temp on the wall. Looking forward to the traditional dial again.
If this new one used learning I’d definitely get it since it looks much nicer. Wish they’d have come out with a premium version of this as well. Love the mirrored look.
You have made no comments about programming the new Nest thermostat so that it automatically adjusts the temperature at specific times of the day, without having to use the Goggle Home app or doing it manually. This is a useful feature of the Learning Thermostat in conjunction with the Nest app. I’d like to know of this is even possible with the new Nest. The Google Home app doesn’t address this at all.
Can the google home thermostat be used with the nest smart hub? I am having confusion as to which nest google products can be controlled from nest hub.
I don’t have the needed extra wires so I think I’m forced to use the nest Gen 3?????
Amazing video, but what is next to your thermostat? I am curious.
I went with the mirrored Google Thermostat. But found that I have Red, Green, White, and RH & RCs for an a/c unit we don’t even have! (Heat only). I don’t feel like crawling in the attic to add a connector So I may have to return it. 😭
Good video..Kept your points crisp and clear.
I just want to know which thermostat to buy. I have an all electric HVAC system with the heat pump.
Nest and Ecobee are both good options. Depending on your voice assistant, one might be better than the other. Now one thing to mention is that both thermostats work with both voice assistants BUT, if you use Amazon Alexa, EcoBee is a good option, and if you use Google Assistant, then Nest Thermostat is a good option.
Do you think I can get 2 of these hooked up in my house with a super weak to non existent Wi-Fi signal? Cable isn't coming to fix it till next week and I want to install the Nest thermostats asap.
My main concern is to just be able to operate both units from my phone. Do not care about any other function except maybe tracking usage of both units over the course of the day/week and month.
Thanks for the video!
Can you turn the settings off and just manually use it instead of programming it? I saw a video to do that but think it was the Nest Learning one. Can u tell I have no clue? Lol.
Better yet, is there instructions anywhere how to use the Nest thermostat? Having to constantly search is frustrating. Anyone chime in please.
I already have a 1 nest in our dual zone system. I am retiring the Sensi that is upstairs and adding another nest. I sure as hell do not want to use 2 apps, getting a gen 3.
To me it just makes no sense to not have it compatible with the sensors..not everyone has central ac/heat..but for $35 bucks thru a rebate I picked one up..I have the learning thermostat myself
Excellent rebate! Which state?
@@dreyes8948 NYC..check the utilities website..con ed or national grid
@@Colduck42 thanks I will
Can they be controlled with a google speaker?
The Nest Learning has a pretty shell but it hardly stacks up as reliable. Mine died in under a year and only received the run around from Google. Save your money.
Thanks for the informationI was trying to decide what to purchase and what the difference was and you tell us everything..
If u have two home, can u add both home with nest thermostat to your phone.
Great video! I really like the new style and for the price well worth it.
Thanks Steve! Helps me a lot in making the right choice
Wilk this work with alexa? And will it work just as good if you were using google voice assistant vs alexa or they both essentially do the same job? I know this is a Google product which is why I'm curious how it will do with alexa.
I hate the learning thermostat! It randomly turn on the heating at 3am, despite turning off learning mode and having nothing scheduled, and often doesn't turn off the heating at bedtime.
I've reset the device, deleted it from Nest and re-added, and turned off all of the features, but it is horrendously inconsistent, and probably adds $500 a year to my heating bills when it repeatedly comes on during the night.
And yes, True Radiant is disabled, Sunblock is off, etc. but it's as though it randomly switches to another time-zone and makes up its own schedule. Frustrating, and not a nice experience.
I have both. The Learning Thermostat is not worth the extra cost. The only feature it has is rechargeable batteries, the rest are features I don't use or care about.
Liked the video and love the shirt... I'm all about Meat Church for my brisket and rib seasonings ;) Looks like this is what I'll move towards once my original Nest Thermostats die... Thanks for the video!
Haha awesome! I have yet to try a brisket. My wife is a vegetarian so eating a whole brisket myself sounds like a daunting task. Haha
I gave the video a thumbs up just 1 second in based on that shirt alone. HUGE Meat Church fan over here.
Thanks . I’ve decided to go with the learning after seeing this review
Will they offer remote temperature sensors like the learning thermostat has ?
So I can buy the new Nest Thermostat for $50 should I get it? My other option is the ECOBEE smart device on sale for $150 . Is the ECOBEE worth an additional $100? I already have a google home MINI so I have that app. I heard the ECOBEE is better than NEST but worth $100 more? Also I have a 800sq condo if that helps. Thanks for your advice!
Great presentation and helped with deciding on what I need to choose. Thank you.
Does it have pin locking
We have the Google nest one that you control in the Google home app through our phones and we like it
How I can change my show 20c to 70F. ?
Can this new one be voice actived thru Alexa? -Thanks
Hey Steve, what’s the name of the song at the end of the video? Thanks!
Does the new nest gen 4 have surge protection?
Was the back plate you installed for the new Nest from the Learning one? It looked different than the outward curving one they sell for the new Nest and looked better.
Yes
I see you used the old faceplate for the new thermostat, did it fit ok?
My learning nest thermostat has a crack in the glass from falling off one time. It’s not really noticeable but I notice it. I might buy this new one to replace it. Thanks for the video!
Mirrors make me so uncomfortable I’d still pick the learning over the new one
I wonder why mirrors make you uncomfortable
I prefer the Nest E compared to all of them. Nest learning was absolutely garbage always had issues with it and after 1 year the Rc terminal went bad during the coldest time of the winter. I can't stand the Nest 2020 model it's ugly, basic and don't get me started on the crappy thermostat UI for Google home but it was the only option we had.
can I use 2 lithium vs. alkaline .
As long as it has a lot of temperature sensors and is accurate . Why not ! :-)
Great video man.. I'm definitely more informed now. How do the sensors work? Can you adjust the temperatures? I prefer my master bedroom to be warmer than my fam likes the rest of the house to be. Thanks..
Thanks. As for the sensors, you place them in rooms throughout the house. So if the thermostat is in the hallway and you have it set to 78, it will turn off the heat when the hallway gets to 78. Even if your bedroom is still 74. If you have a sensor in your bedroom you can have your thermostat base it's on/off times from that sensor instead of the sensor in the thermostat. So for example, if you set your thermostat to 78, using the bedroom sensor, the heater will stay on until your room hits that temp. Your hallway might now be 82 but the room that you want to be 78 now will be. Hope that makes sense. :)
@@SteveDOES it makes sense Bro.. I'm guessing that I might be forced to get the more expensive thermostat then. I have a single story house and the thermostats are about 20 feet apart. The one for the master bedroom will not shut off when the set heat temp is reached.. it gets stuck on Duncan Hines hot!! 😳 I was looking for a solution so that my bedroom temp would be where I want it and not controlled by my hallway ambient temp..
Current rebates & offers makes the learning $30 vs $1 for base. I wouldn’t pay $100+ for either of these.
Does the new one need a C wire?
you should compare this to the previous gen eco thermostat that had the rotating bezel as this is the successor to that.
Does it work with Google Nest hub? 🤔
I got the 3rd generation i don't think touch sensor friendly use it need very sensitive hand to operate im stick with what I got more than satisfied
I like my new Nest but haven't found a way to connect with google home on our pc. I can already tell it's costing less to run the ac but it's cycling on/off twice as much. This won’t dehumidify the air making it feel muggy and can also lead to more wear on the compressor .