Thank you for the review. Convince Arendal Sound to send these over to Erin for review and klippel analysis. If they command the price premium, then they should at least be analyzed for performance via Klippel and objective analysis along with graphs for in room response.
What Erin does in his reviews is great but you have to be aware of how your own tastes compare to his. He likes a flat response and even a rolled off response for his own listening preferences. Not everyone likes that so while his data is awesome and extremely helpful I don’t blindly follow his recommendations because I know my tastes are different from his. Remember that audio is subjective because everyone’s hearing is different so there is no absolute right or wrong when it comes to es to audio. Either you like it or you don’t and no RUclipsr can tell you what you like. You have to determine that for yourself.
@808lublabs4 I do not disagree with you. I enjoy the value of seeing tangible data along with perspective and experience. The data is a way to "see" what is going on with a speaker along with someone's audible explanation. If I am being honest, I find value in both with the summation allowing for a complete picture of what I am potentially purchasing. What Amir, Erin and Dave do along with the information on spinorama provide a full evaluation. In other words, does what is being said match or coincidence with the measurements?
Can’t go wrong with buckeye. Brought one 2 years ago. No regrets. Pure power. It still gets me every now and then how it can go from zero (dead quite) to 100 in an instant.
I’ve had the 1723’s for a few years now and love them. Running an Acurus processor with parasound amps helps. I just can’t fit these things, even in a dedicated room. Would love to though!
It’s on my list. I haven’t even heard my MartinLogan F200’s since I got the 1723’s in for review. About 5 months ago we started working on Obsessed Home Theater. I’m definitely juggling a lot of things simultaneously. 😀 But it will happen. Just have to get through my backlog of reviews first.
These aren’t meant to compete with JTR. JTR’s massive coaxial driver will outperform them in dynamics and output. The 1528 Tower 8 are along the lines of Perlisten, KEF and Paradigm.
Good stuff. It would be helpful if you could show some simple in room REW measurements. Also comparisons would be helpful too. They're clearly going after Perlisten. You also have JTR so easy to compare to those too.
I’ve never measured speakers before, only subwoofers. Maybe we can do that when Gene and Don come over. I have REW and UMIK-2, I’m just not sure about best mic placement, REW settings etc. Nothings easy to compare when the speakers weigh 175ls each 😀. But I would like to bring them in the Theater Room to see how they sound. There’s not a way to do a direct comparison between the JTR because the JTR are behind my screen, and the 1528 would be in front of the screen. The Tower 8 will dig much lower than my 212HTR, but they are designed to be paired with a sub, which my RS2’s handle down to 5Hz in my setup. But after I listen to the 1528 in my theater room with my RS2’s, I should have a good idea of their capability for Home Theater compared to my 212HTR’s.
Arendal's own frequency response tracing for the 1528s show that the speakers are down 7db at 30 Hz. That, to me, is unacceptable in a $10,000 speaker pair. Meanwhile, the SVS Pinnacles, which get rave reviews, are 24Hz to 20,000 Hz +/- 3db and at half the price.
@@gingerbaker1 Buy a sub if you want it to act like one, most subs take over at 80 Hz and a full tower should hand off way before 24Hz, even if it is capable. Its like criticizing Ferrari for not having a truck bed. No one with any experience with both of these would pick the SVS Pinnacle using performance if money wasn't a factor.
@@tkcdac A sub ?!? Arendal is presenting this speaker system as full-range !! This is about truth in advertising. And I would suggest you read what's out there about the SVS Pinnacle. A LOT of people/ magazines have reviewed it and they love it, without a sub.
Nice review, thank you. These are handsome and an interesting speaker, definitely has a lot of peoples attention and curiosity. I’m sure 90% want to know how it compares to the SVS Ultra Pinnacle, even if it’s twice the price. $9500 is a bit crazy for Arendal. I will admit my biggest pet peeve though is reviewers saying “these sound better than some speakers that cost twice as much”. It’s a throw away comment with no specifics or context assigned to it and is in almost every RUclips review. Please tell me the $20,000 speaker this surpasses.
Great comment all around! I'm willing to bet that heard side by side most people would be happy to take the SVS's at half the price and many would probably even prefer the greater dynamics of the SVS. I'm no SVS fanboy either, in fact I much prefer Arendal as a company. Their stuff is very well engineered but 9500 leaves a lot of other options open doesn't it?
Oh absolutely at $9500, you definitely have a ton of options that are more affordable. We all have to decide what we value and what fits within our budgets.
Good review buddy. Love watching your videos ,very detailed and good explanations. I am impressed with these speakers. Pricey and not cheap for a speaker that's made in China. I believe the Norwegians don't have a factory that manufactures in their home country, unlike Focal, Dali, Dynaudio, B&W ,etc
First, thanks for the review. I was surprized to hear that the speakers produced any bass under those circumstances. You stated that they're playing into an open dining roon which is open to a kitchen, 10ft ceilings, underpowered and then cranked them for bass response😲??? Even with those challenges the speakers did not break-up or distort from lack of power. The amp ran out gas before the speakers, if i understood you correctly. When you said that you wanted to test the full range abiliities i just knew you were going to feed those beasts some real powahhh. Audioholics tested the perlisten s7t ($16,000pr) and fed them 600w each. It sounds like these 1528's would pressurize any normal listening room, regardless of size? I've listened to the 1723 thx, and although i thoroughly enjoyed it, i wondered what they would sound like with a dedicated midrange driver. I heard Gene (audioholics) mention that the 5" driver in the 1528 is better suited than the dual 8's of the 1728. My apolohies for rambling.... I really enjoyed your review!
Thanks Timothy. Even in an open concept home, you can still get tactile bass, it just won't be near as much in a dedicated theater room with room gain. The Perlisten S7t's are not going to be able to fully pressurize my living room either. Yes, the Outlaw Audio amp ran into protection so that was the limiting factor, not the speakers. When Rusty and Matt visit next week, he will bring his Buckeye Amps to let me borrow.
So these tower speakers do not have the same bass output as JTR subs. Would of been better to compare these to the JTR speakers, minus the subs that are in the theater room.
Absolutely not. My JTR subs are flat to 5Hz. We measured the towers down to 20Hz. My JTR Noesis 212HTR would outperform them in output, but certainly not low end extension. They have a frequency response down to 60Hz.
Awesome, I’ve been waiting to hear how these sound. It will be great to see what Gene and Don think as well. Can’t wait for the review of them in your theater room as well as the center + once you get that in! If you got some 500-1000 wattage amps, it would be wild to see what these beasts can do.
Hi Youthman, thanks so much for the detailed review! Really appreciate you covering bass extension in particular. Can you briefly comment on how you guys felt these stacked up against the Martin Logan's F200s you liked? - Particularly in bass extension and sound stage.
One issue I see with this line is the mis-matched sensitivities. The towers are nearly 90db efficient and the rest of the line hovers around 85db. For those using these in multi channel set ups, wouldn't these differences result in different volume levels across the channels as you crank the volume despite being level matched before hand?
Hi youthman First of all I would just like to say how much I love watching your videos even though most of the products you review are out of my price range I live in the U.K. and recently I bought the marantz cinema 40 but I cannot find how to change my speakers from large to small I hope you can help me with this problem Thank you Keith
Good review. I’m actually a bit surprised and disappointed that Arendal didn’t go with a more sensitive and dynamic design, more in line with the likes of JTR, JBL Synthesis, etc. Speakers like this are completely flooding the market these days. Would have been nice to see them separate with something unique and different. I can’t help but think Perlisten copycat when I look at these.
Michael, appreciate the honest review. My observation on your body language and tone tells me that these are indeed good speakers but not the absolute Juggernaut that Jay Iyagi made them out to be. You referred to them not being able to play low notes multiple times. Leads me to believe that a tower speaker at let's say 5,000 accompanied buy a subwoofer to will be a better value for sure. Got to ask, why not compare these 1528 speakers to a few other pairs of towers in your room and give your feedback on that?
@@hotdog9262 the 400's can handle the load. They are 2 ohm stable and can handle lower. They just don't have the current to get the crazy power like the 9040 on those low impedance dips.
at the same noise THD ~0,1% -120db, 1ET9040BA measure at over 700w. with powerful speakers like these with mediocre sensitivity I wouldn`t be in doubt, especially as the later more expensive model apparantly..sound better too. the amp cost tho..well none of them are cheap
@@hotdog9262 correct. The 9040 is a beast for power especially at those low impedance dips. The 400 can still handle the low impedances, but it just doesn't have the juice to give you the extra power. I guess we should be talking about the 6525 instead of the 400a but it's still the same story. It can handle the load, no problem, just doesn't have the juice at 2 ohms and lower vs the 7040 and 9040. The 9040 is an absolute monster and needs a real beefy power supply.
JTR is a different level. These are not comparable in output or low extension. But they aren’t meant to. These are along the lines of Revel, KEF and Perlisten.
It’d be difficult to compare since I’ve been without them for over a year ago. The 7 III might have a tad more tactile response, but aren’t even close on the midrange and top end performance.
I have never measured speakers on my channel. Only subwoofers. Gene (Audioholics), Erin and Amir provide speaker measurements. I’ll leave that to the experts.
Full range? They don't drop to 20hzs to be a full range speaker and without built in amps for the bass drivers they are not considered full range and if the company is saying they are it's false advertising for sales.
@@Youthman wow. Thanks for replying. What about the performance, sound quality, movies and music. I want a great but affordable 5.2.4 or 7.2.6 setup. Thanks in advance for all you do.
Klipsch are easier to drive due to their high sensitivity. Their top end is brighter. Probably similar bass output. 1723 will have better midrange due to having a dedicated midrange driver and 3-way crossover.
@@Youthman thank you so much for your guidance. I just discovered the svs ultra evolution. What do you think of them? I think they are priced between the Klipsch and the Arendal.
Youthman! It sounds like you’re comparing these to subwoofers; impact of bass you’re used to in your theater is from your subs! SMH, love you man but I feel you got distracted in this one
Distracted? How so? Arendal stated the 1528 Tower 8's can run as full range speakers. Full range means full range, whether it's used for music or movies. So I was curious to see how well they performed for both without a sub in my living room. Also, in a previous poll on my channel, two thirds of my audience stated they do not have a dedicated Home Theater. Most are going to use a subwoofer, but for any review, you want to review them on their own merit, not being supported by a subwoofer. When Gene measures the speaker's frequency response, will he include a subwoofer? Nope. So how is it that I "got distracted" with this review? As stated in the video, I believe EVERY 2ch and multi-channel system will benefit from adding a subwoofer.
They are $100 more than the Isocoustics - www.audioadvice.com/products/isoacoustics-gaia-ii-isolation-feet-set-of-4?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADRzHk_st9boS0KJyWMHXiCOf33nL&gclid=Cj0KCQjw99e4BhDiARIsAISE7P-bgaohZAEyxl9EdFlhLC-R9m75dmHOMa4dECc4xtUncHm_CibNw84aAgYQEALw_wcB
Which is why I reached out to Rusty to borrow his Buckeye amps, although I don’t think it will make that much a difference, it just won’t go into protection mode. Outlaw Audio makes solid amps. Most people would not be able to accurately discern the difference from it and a high end amp unless it was being driven beyond its capability.
A new review! This means the Lord has delivered you and your friends and family from the storm! So thankful for his abundant mercies! Still praying for all affected by the storm and its aftermath along with all the service people tirelessly working to restore communities to "normal" if I can use that term. I also like the look of inverted surrounds/dust caps, like my Paradigms, that I'm gonna stick with! 😂 Waiting on my Monitor SE8000's in gloss white!!!!!! The Greatest Showman has SO many good tracks!!!
Yes, we are grateful. We did not have any damage from the storm. I posted on the community a while back with an update and also made a video on it. Check it out here - ruclips.net/video/LuLpgN0HwQM/видео.htmlsi=ZJVvvVtOkNZWJsxL
I've been keeping up with your shorts and videos. We were in Orlando almost a year ago and I can't believe the change Milton must have inflicted. God bless you and yours!
The problem of this hobby is you end up spending thousands of dollars to enjoy a few great scenes in the same movies, over and over again. Thousands of dollars to collectively watch scenes that are no more than a few minutes long. The cost benefit rule really goes out the window with this hobby. I have owed everything under the sun and it’s rear if not non existent that you get a complete movie that can you the type of enjoyment expressed in this review. It’s just a few scenes per a few movies. Everyone knows the usual suspect of scenes and movies
I don’t know about you but I actually watch movies. The only time I watch my “go to scenes” are when giving demos to friends that have not heard my setup. IMO, every movie doesn’t have to be “demo material” to be enjoyable. Movies like The Pursuit of Happiness, The Lord of the Rings, Hamilton, National Treasure, Logan, Prates of the Caribbean, are fantastic, but are not on my Kaleidescape demo script when guests come over. The purpose of a home theater is to provide an opportunity for us to temporarily be transformed from this world into another reality that is not our own. To relive that experience through film.
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Thank you for the review. Convince Arendal Sound to send these over to Erin for review and klippel analysis. If they command the price premium, then they should at least be analyzed for performance via Klippel and objective analysis along with graphs for in room response.
What Erin does in his reviews is great but you have to be aware of how your own tastes compare to his. He likes a flat response and even a rolled off response for his own listening preferences. Not everyone likes that so while his data is awesome and extremely helpful I don’t blindly follow his recommendations because I know my tastes are different from his. Remember that audio is subjective because everyone’s hearing is different so there is no absolute right or wrong when it comes to es to audio. Either you like it or you don’t and no RUclipsr can tell you what you like. You have to determine that for yourself.
He’s not gonna be able to get it up on the klippel considering the weight of these.
Too heavy for Klippel measurements...he'd have to do outdoor measurements.
@808lublabs4 I do not disagree with you. I enjoy the value of seeing tangible data along with perspective and experience.
The data is a way to "see" what is going on with a speaker along with someone's audible explanation.
If I am being honest, I find value in both with the summation allowing for a complete picture of what I am potentially purchasing. What Amir, Erin and Dave do along with the information on spinorama provide a full evaluation. In other words, does what is being said match or coincidence with the measurements?
I think that’s both are important as well. I don’t think Erin will be getting them though.
Can’t go wrong with buckeye. Brought one 2 years ago. No regrets. Pure power. It still gets me every now and then how it can go from zero (dead quite) to 100 in an instant.
Hyped! Thank you for this fast upload after such a long period without power!
Thanks, Michael. Glad you enjoyed the video. The hurricane definitely put me about six days behind, but we’ll get back on track.
Can you compare the 1528 to the 1723. How do they sound different, and is their a big difference?
I have heard there is more clarity from the tweeter but that's all I know.
That would be a good comparison to make.
I’ve had the 1723’s for a few years now and love them. Running an Acurus processor with parasound amps helps. I just can’t fit these things, even in a dedicated room. Would love to though!
Hey! Remember 5 months ago when you said you were going to compare the Arendal 1723 to the Martin Logan F200? When is that happening?
It’s on my list. I haven’t even heard my MartinLogan F200’s since I got the 1723’s in for review. About 5 months ago we started working on Obsessed Home Theater. I’m definitely juggling a lot of things simultaneously. 😀 But it will happen. Just have to get through my backlog of reviews first.
Loved the review, telling like it is and still being polite. Look forward to see Gene and you do the curls with a 1528 Center😜
I’m always polite, but will always share my honest opinion, whether that’s good or bad.
@@Youthman we love and appreciate your honest reviews. Do you plan on sharing your opinion on how they compare against the JTR’s?
These aren’t meant to compete with JTR. JTR’s massive coaxial driver will outperform them in dynamics and output. The 1528 Tower 8 are along the lines of Perlisten, KEF and Paradigm.
@@Youthman thank you again for your response. You’re the one of the best out there in this community👏👏
One of the best? 🤣🤣🤣 I appreciate the compliment.
Hey Youthman! Thanks for the review! How are they compared to Perlisten s7t?
I'm seconding this question! - Specs wise they look very close.
@Youthman No comparison performance wise for sure only the anesthetics.
I would love to see a review on the more accessible 1528 slim 8! 🙏🙌
They didn’t send me those
Good stuff. It would be helpful if you could show some simple in room REW measurements. Also comparisons would be helpful too. They're clearly going after Perlisten. You also have JTR so easy to compare to those too.
I’ve never measured speakers before, only subwoofers. Maybe we can do that when Gene and Don come over. I have REW and UMIK-2, I’m just not sure about best mic placement, REW settings etc.
Nothings easy to compare when the speakers weigh 175ls each 😀. But I would like to bring them in the Theater Room to see how they sound. There’s not a way to do a direct comparison between the JTR because the JTR are behind my screen, and the 1528 would be in front of the screen.
The Tower 8 will dig much lower than my 212HTR, but they are designed to be paired with a sub, which my RS2’s handle down to 5Hz in my setup.
But after I listen to the 1528 in my theater room with my RS2’s, I should have a good idea of their capability for Home Theater compared to my 212HTR’s.
Arendal's own frequency response tracing for the 1528s show that the speakers are down 7db at 30 Hz. That, to me, is unacceptable in a $10,000 speaker pair. Meanwhile, the SVS Pinnacles, which get rave reviews, are 24Hz to 20,000 Hz +/- 3db and at half the price.
If the SVS Pinnacles better meet your needs, go for it.
@@Youthman The point is that the 1528s don't have a true low end. Neither did the the 1728s. Reviews should acknowledge this.
@@gingerbaker1 Buy a sub if you want it to act like one, most subs take over at 80 Hz and a full tower should hand off way before 24Hz, even if it is capable. Its like criticizing Ferrari for not having a truck bed. No one with any experience with both of these would pick the SVS Pinnacle using performance if money wasn't a factor.
@@tkcdac A sub ?!? Arendal is presenting this speaker system as full-range !! This is about truth in advertising.
And I would suggest you read what's out there about the SVS Pinnacle. A LOT of people/ magazines have reviewed it and they love it, without a sub.
Moreover why Arendal had to do this treble/midrange Arrangement sooooo similar to Perlisten?! It kills the originality of those speakers!
Nice review, thank you. These are handsome and an interesting speaker, definitely has a lot of peoples attention and curiosity. I’m sure 90% want to know how it compares to the SVS Ultra Pinnacle, even if it’s twice the price. $9500 is a bit crazy for Arendal. I will admit my biggest pet peeve though is reviewers saying “these sound better than some speakers that cost twice as much”. It’s a throw away comment with no specifics or context assigned to it and is in almost every RUclips review. Please tell me the $20,000 speaker this surpasses.
I have been to Florida Audio Expo, many of which are uber high end speakers, many of which sound lit hot garbage.
Great comment all around!
I'm willing to bet that heard side by side most people would be happy to take the SVS's at half the price and many would probably even prefer the greater dynamics of the SVS. I'm no SVS fanboy either, in fact I much prefer Arendal as a company. Their stuff is very well engineered but 9500 leaves a lot of other options open doesn't it?
Oh absolutely at $9500, you definitely have a ton of options that are more affordable. We all have to decide what we value and what fits within our budgets.
These are very nice, they put me in the mind frame of Focals or SVS.
The SVS would not be comparable.
Good review buddy. Love watching your videos ,very detailed and good explanations. I am impressed with these speakers. Pricey and not cheap for a speaker that's made in China. I believe the Norwegians don't have a factory that manufactures in their home country, unlike Focal, Dali, Dynaudio, B&W ,etc
First, thanks for the review. I was surprized to hear that the speakers produced any bass under those circumstances. You stated that they're playing into an open dining roon which is open to a kitchen, 10ft ceilings, underpowered and then cranked them for bass response😲??? Even with those challenges the speakers did not break-up or distort from lack of power. The amp ran out gas before the speakers, if i understood you correctly. When you said that you wanted to test the full range abiliities i just knew you were going to feed those beasts some real powahhh. Audioholics tested the perlisten s7t ($16,000pr) and fed them 600w each. It sounds like these 1528's would pressurize any normal listening room, regardless of size? I've listened to the 1723 thx, and although i thoroughly enjoyed it, i wondered what they would sound like with a dedicated midrange driver. I heard Gene (audioholics) mention that the 5" driver in the 1528 is better suited than the dual 8's of the 1728. My apolohies for rambling.... I really enjoyed your review!
Thanks Timothy. Even in an open concept home, you can still get tactile bass, it just won't be near as much in a dedicated theater room with room gain. The Perlisten S7t's are not going to be able to fully pressurize my living room either. Yes, the Outlaw Audio amp ran into protection so that was the limiting factor, not the speakers. When Rusty and Matt visit next week, he will bring his Buckeye Amps to let me borrow.
So these tower speakers do not have the same bass output as JTR subs. Would of been better to compare these to the JTR speakers, minus the subs that are in the theater room.
Absolutely not. My JTR subs are flat to 5Hz. We measured the towers down to 20Hz.
My JTR Noesis 212HTR would outperform them in output, but certainly not low end extension. They have a frequency response down to 60Hz.
Awesome, I’ve been waiting to hear how these sound. It will be great to see what Gene and Don think as well.
Can’t wait for the review of them in your theater room as well as the center + once you get that in!
If you got some 500-1000 wattage amps, it would be wild to see what these beasts can do.
Thanks loved it ❤❤❤❤
Hi Youthman, thanks so much for the detailed review! Really appreciate you covering bass extension in particular. Can you briefly comment on how you guys felt these stacked up against the Martin Logan's F200s you liked? - Particularly in bass extension and sound stage.
I want to have them in the same room during the same listening session so I can better compare the two. Look for a future video.
LOTS of thoughts to follow on these .. I am here for all of them
Enjoyed this review Youthman. These towers are really compelling.
One issue I see with this line is the mis-matched sensitivities. The towers are nearly 90db efficient and the rest of the line hovers around 85db. For those using these in multi channel set ups, wouldn't these differences result in different volume levels across the channels as you crank the volume despite being level matched before hand?
one would think as long as the amp have the power to compensate..
I love using the Star Trek movie where the Klingons are going in. The kettle drums are tactile.
Great job and still waiting on your review on the new VTF-TN1 subwoofer.
That’s coming this week! Thank you for your patience.
Were those speakers slammed against the wall like that when you were listening to them?
Nope. The 1723’s were removed, I moved them further outside and away from the front wall. They are currently 1’ away from the front wall.
Nice!, but sadly still no Center! looking forward to see Gene´s impression
Thanks for the great video. Would you say these compete with the Perlisten R7T? If so, how do they compare? They are both about $10k per pair.
Yes they are along the lines of Perlisten KEF and Focal.
I'm curious if you were able to get your Outlaw amp out of protection mode, or did you have to send it in for service?
Nice review; good work.
Thank you, kindly
How would these compare to JTR for movies
JTR is on a different level in output and dynamics due to the massive coaxial driver.
Excellent video! Would love for you to review some of KEF’s new Q Series speakers!
Would you pick these over either Perlisten towers?
I would need to hear them in the same room connected to the same gear to compare how they differ in sound.
Hi youthman
First of all I would just like to say how much I love watching your videos even though most of the products you review are out of my price range
I live in the U.K. and recently I bought the marantz cinema 40 but I cannot find how to change my speakers from large to small
I hope you can help me with this problem
Thank you
Keith
Pull up an online manual. It's only 300+ pages. Get going!
Good review. I’m actually a bit surprised and disappointed that Arendal didn’t go with a more sensitive and dynamic design, more in line with the likes of JTR, JBL Synthesis, etc. Speakers like this are completely flooding the market these days. Would have been nice to see them separate with something unique and different. I can’t help but think Perlisten copycat when I look at these.
Michael, appreciate the honest review. My observation on your body language and tone tells me that these are indeed good speakers but not the absolute Juggernaut that Jay Iyagi made them out to be. You referred to them not being able to play low notes multiple times. Leads me to believe that a tower speaker at let's say 5,000 accompanied buy a subwoofer to will be a better value for sure. Got to ask, why not compare these 1528 speakers to a few other pairs of towers in your room and give your feedback on that?
Time for some Purifi Eigentakts? They can handle the load from the 1528's.
1ET9040BA then. the 400 not really
@@hotdog9262 the 400's can handle the load. They are 2 ohm stable and can handle lower. They just don't have the current to get the crazy power like the 9040 on those low impedance dips.
@@dicmccoy if you look at 400`s rms power at 4 ohm at good noise levels, its at a little over 300w. the arendals are 4 ohm speakers
at the same noise THD ~0,1% -120db, 1ET9040BA measure at over 700w. with powerful speakers like these with mediocre sensitivity I wouldn`t be in doubt, especially as the later more expensive model apparantly..sound better too. the amp cost tho..well none of them are cheap
@@hotdog9262 correct. The 9040 is a beast for power especially at those low impedance dips. The 400 can still handle the low impedances, but it just doesn't have the juice to give you the extra power. I guess we should be talking about the 6525 instead of the 400a but it's still the same story. It can handle the load, no problem, just doesn't have the juice at 2 ohms and lower vs the 7040 and 9040. The 9040 is an absolute monster and needs a real beefy power supply.
I think these will be for people that want something that looks nice and can do everything for 9500 I’d rather have a pair of jtr 215rts
JTR is a different level. These are not comparable in output or low extension. But they aren’t meant to. These are along the lines of Revel, KEF and Perlisten.
1528 vs 1723 please 🥺
Funny my wife hates “big circles.” Arendal probably had a reason. 😂
How does the bass of these compare to the Klipsch rf7's that you previously owned?
It’d be difficult to compare since I’ve been without them for over a year ago. The 7 III might have a tad more tactile response, but aren’t even close on the midrange and top end performance.
@@Youthmanthey really that much better than the real fire breathing dragons on the top end?
Where’s the REW measurement?? 🎉
I have never measured speakers on my channel. Only subwoofers. Gene (Audioholics), Erin and Amir provide speaker measurements. I’ll leave that to the experts.
Do you got your self some broken pixels there buddy'?
On my camera or my TV?
@@Youthman If you check right below the left hand at 15:56 you can cleary see a broken pixel.. Perhaps its "only" on the camera..
Rubbing Artifacts! LoL! Some of these terms are funny.
Right?
god bless you sir thank you
Full range? They don't drop to 20hzs to be a full range speaker and without built in amps for the bass drivers they are not considered full range and if the company is saying they are it's false advertising for sales.
Id love a Klipsch 8000F2 vs 1723
I don’t have an 8000 in for review. What I can tell you is the build quality on Arendal is way beyond the build quality of the RP 8000 F.
@@Youthman wow. Thanks for replying. What about the performance, sound quality, movies and music. I want a great but affordable 5.2.4 or 7.2.6 setup. Thanks in advance for all you do.
Klipsch are easier to drive due to their high sensitivity. Their top end is brighter. Probably similar bass output. 1723 will have better midrange due to having a dedicated midrange driver and 3-way crossover.
@@Youthman thank you so much for your guidance. I just discovered the svs ultra evolution. What do you think of them? I think they are priced between the Klipsch and the Arendal.
Damn, they are gorgeous speakers. Those pucks for the bottom look like a must buy :)
Youthman! It sounds like you’re comparing these to subwoofers; impact of bass you’re used to in your theater is from your subs! SMH, love you man but I feel you got distracted in this one
Distracted? How so? Arendal stated the 1528 Tower 8's can run as full range speakers. Full range means full range, whether it's used for music or movies. So I was curious to see how well they performed for both without a sub in my living room. Also, in a previous poll on my channel, two thirds of my audience stated they do not have a dedicated Home Theater. Most are going to use a subwoofer, but for any review, you want to review them on their own merit, not being supported by a subwoofer. When Gene measures the speaker's frequency response, will he include a subwoofer? Nope. So how is it that I "got distracted" with this review? As stated in the video, I believe EVERY 2ch and multi-channel system will benefit from adding a subwoofer.
400 for feet is wild.
They are $100 more than the Isocoustics - www.audioadvice.com/products/isoacoustics-gaia-ii-isolation-feet-set-of-4?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADRzHk_st9boS0KJyWMHXiCOf33nL&gclid=Cj0KCQjw99e4BhDiARIsAISE7P-bgaohZAEyxl9EdFlhLC-R9m75dmHOMa4dECc4xtUncHm_CibNw84aAgYQEALw_wcB
$9500 speakers with $400 budget amps, seems kind of a mismatch.
Which is why I reached out to Rusty to borrow his Buckeye amps, although I don’t think it will make that much a difference, it just won’t go into protection mode. Outlaw Audio makes solid amps. Most people would not be able to accurately discern the difference from it and a high end amp unless it was being driven beyond its capability.
seems like a perfect speaker for purifi 1ET9040BA
A new review! This means the Lord has delivered you and your friends and family from the storm! So thankful for his abundant mercies! Still praying for all affected by the storm and its aftermath along with all the service people tirelessly working to restore communities to "normal" if I can use that term.
I also like the look of inverted surrounds/dust caps, like my Paradigms, that I'm gonna stick with! 😂 Waiting on my Monitor SE8000's in gloss white!!!!!!
The Greatest Showman has SO many good tracks!!!
Yes, we are grateful. We did not have any damage from the storm. I posted on the community a while back with an update and also made a video on it. Check it out here - ruclips.net/video/LuLpgN0HwQM/видео.htmlsi=ZJVvvVtOkNZWJsxL
I've been keeping up with your shorts and videos. We were in Orlando almost a year ago and I can't believe the change Milton must have inflicted. God bless you and yours!
They are NOT full range
The problem of this hobby is you end up spending thousands of dollars to enjoy a few great scenes in the same movies, over and over again. Thousands of dollars to collectively watch scenes that are no more than a few minutes long. The cost benefit rule really goes out the window with this hobby. I have owed everything under the sun and it’s rear if not non existent that you get a complete movie that can you the type of enjoyment expressed in this review. It’s just a few scenes per a few movies. Everyone knows the usual suspect of scenes and movies
I don’t know about you but I actually watch movies. The only time I watch my “go to scenes” are when giving demos to friends that have not heard my setup.
IMO, every movie doesn’t have to be “demo material” to be enjoyable. Movies like The Pursuit of Happiness, The Lord of the Rings, Hamilton, National Treasure, Logan, Prates of the Caribbean, are fantastic, but are not on my Kaleidescape demo script when guests come over.
The purpose of a home theater is to provide an opportunity for us to temporarily be transformed from this world into another reality that is not our own. To relive that experience through film.
Awesome review. Anyone got 10k I can borrow? 😂 gorgeous speakers.
Yeah sure. I'll keep the speakers at my house as collateral.
@@bearclaw5115 🤣
Freq response not so great
Not enough base
And made in China
What do you prefer?
@@YouthmanQUALIO Iq ultra 7000 € made in Poland
børresen x3 made in Denemark $11k
Duvel bella luna made in germany 8000 €
rosso fiorentino certaldo 2 made in Italy $10k
Borrensen makes some incredible sounding speakers.
@@moshezuhmih 1528 can produce power and bass on a whole other level then the speakers you mentined here
Sorry for the second post but i just want to give a little shout out to an actress and youtube personality who stars in Grand Tourismo...Emelia Hartford...she basically started from nothing, attacked by depression, but she's overcome that and her channel has exploded, from building and racing/drifting cars, to getting her third shop amd partnerships with Chevy and Cadillac! She has a foundation that raises awareness and funds for mental health and built one of the first, and fastest, new C8 twin turbo Corvettes...yes BEFORE GM put turbos on factory mid engine 'vettes! She's a great personality and watching her succeed over the years is a joyful watch.
I'm not sure which of your comments is more off-putting.