Therapist Reacts To: Inbred by Ethel Cain *trigger warning - please use discretion - SA discussed"
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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Her album 'Preacher's Daughter' is a whole story of fictional character created by her. It's very very good!
Agreed! Definitely something you gotta react to
I will absolutely do that one!
@@mendwithmerestart with hard times!
@@mendwithmereAhhh i’m so excited !! she’s incredible
@@mendwithmere would love that but brace yourself for Triggers. Just remember that the album is a story not a real events, it may help. 💪
Ethel is the kind of artist that would make you scream WHAT THE FUCK but at the same time make you realize that shit like this actually happens in real life... shes just straight to the point with it.
As a male victim of incest and sexual abuse, this song means a lot to me and is healing in a way. Thanks for reacting to it Mere.
I'm sorry that happened, nobody deserves that
im so so sorry about that, that must be awful :/
@@sparrow_posts_stuff thank u and I'm okay now!
@enochivn8766 you're so right and it's super unfortunate that it happens. Luckily, I got the right treatments and I'm okay now :) 💓💓
I’m sorry you had to be so strong. I’m glad you’ve healed
you’re so spot on with the ‘deep south hidden away’, that’s her entire vibe
Really?!? It really felt like true detective setting to me.
@@mendwithmere atleast for preachers daughter anyway !
i'd love to see your thoughts on "ptolemaea", it's absolutely chilling but so well written
I requested that as well, but I’ve had no money so Mere was so kind that she did Inbred request for free.
ooh absolutely
That song is crazy first listen lol
I would love that but it’s a really heavy song
I may be wrong, but always thought that her brother and her abuser are two different people. "He (her brother) hates the way you (the abuser) look at me, you're already dead". I think she's saying that if her brother finds out what happened, he'll kill that man. "If he wakes up he will show you what I'm taking about."
But it's also possible that she just separates the brother she loves and the brother that abuses her into two people in her head. Maybe that's where the line "if he wakes up he will show you what I'm talking about" comes from. So by "wakes up" she means realises what he's doing.
No ur right. Hayden has said that the abuser is not the brother or even in the family. She said Inbred is a metaphor for trauma within the family.
I think that Ethel explained the lyrics to this song. The older brother wasn’t the abuser, but he was protecting her from their molesting father.
To me “pissing on the stove to put it out” makes me think she’s helpless. Left alone with only her brother at home and he’s out doing sketchy shit. And she has to put out the fire on the stove cause maybe the fire started to get high since she’s young and alone.
“Sucking on the back of his leg to stay warm” makes me think shes describing herself as an animal trying to drink milk from his leg as her mother is in a coma and he’s all she has. But she doesn’t know what to do.
Ethel Cain?? THANK YOU!
If you wanna check it out, Ethel talks a lot about SA, religious trauma, and poverty in her album Preacher’s Daughter
damn, y’all couldn’t have eased her in with Crush or something first??
Never listened to Ethel Cain but this song really is disturbing. Never listened to music that made me feel so gross.
It makes you feel exactly what she felt. That is some powerful art but I agree, I gaged several times after and cried. I hate that this is a reality for so many people.
Listen to Preacher's Daughter
try thoroughfare its a bit more positive
pretty sure its the dad that is doing it to her, her brother loves her and is protective and doesnt know the dad is doing it, the dad probably loves the son (her brother) more and thats why he is his "baby" while she is not. and she is saying if she told her brother he would kill the dad
that makes a lot of sense! so many different interpretations, all very interesting but this does make a lot of sense. apparently by what i’ve read in the comments hayden confirmed inbred is just a metaphor for trauma within the family but i would love to know a full analysis on what the “canon” meaning is, cuz there’s clearly abuse going on but idk about the incest part? if that makes sense but yeah
I don't see how that could be the case with the sentence "Does your baby know her daddy's a rapist?" considering it's a big brother.
It could also mean she was raped by her brother and gave birth to a child “does your baby know her daddy’s a rapist” but hes dead ig they both fought resulting ethel on the floor and her saying to her baby “if he wakes up he’ll show u what am talking about”
I am so thrilled that you reacted to Ethel! She is truly one of the best newer artists we have today, her music is so layered and emotional and thought-provoking. This song in particular is very heavy, it's hard to think and talk about without feeling unsettled in some way. If you ever want to react to more of her songs, Crush and American Teenager are two songs that feel more upbeat if you need some more levity lol (though they do still deal with darker subject matter). Pretty much any song of her's is worthy of a reaction. Her album Preacher's Daughter is one of my all time favorites.
I think she’s talking about how her dads doing it
“Does your baby know her daddy’s a rapist” I think she means does the narrator understand that it’s rape and what’s happening isn’t right and the older brother lines are about how he isn’t that great of a person and gets in trouble with the cops but still cares about her and helps her
That was hard. Thank you for doing this reaction, I admire your strength
Yes it was but such an important topic to discuss. ❤❤❤
Tw//sa and incest
I always saw the ”does she know her Daddys a rapist” and “if he wakes up he’ll show you what I’m talking about” as direct lines that fit together. Like she’s implying he might go after his own child as soon as she gets too old and less innocent for him to enjoy anymore. I could be wrong but that’s how I saw it.
Oh wow, I can see that now.
First song I heard by Ethel Cain was Inbred and I was hooked. I'm trans and from the south. Unfortunately, relatable but the song makes me feel seen. 🙏🖤💜
this is my favourite Ethel song... I cry every time I hear it - it's so disgustingly beautiful, horrifying but comforting... having experienced some of the same things she has
This song holds a very deep place in my heart; as a victim of incest and sexual abuse she speaks about it all in a way that doesn't sugarcoat anything. And I love it - it's so important
Thank you for sharing and I hate that you had to experience anything like this and I’m so sorry. It is very validating and therapeutic for Ethel to be sharing such details in order for people to feel seen. Sending you ♥️
I’m so sorry that happened to you
Ethel's album "preacher's daugter" is absolutely gut-wrecking but incredible. Can't say that i listen to it often becuse of the mood but it definitely was an experience
Maybe that’s my problem. I’ve been listening to every song consistently everyday for the past week. And it brings me to a dark place but I love it. Maybe I should take a break from mother Cain.
You're such an empath, Mere🥰 Sometimes that's both a blessing and a curse. That was intense. I don't know too much about Ethel other than she's a trans woman whose father was a preacher (The few songs I've heard from Preacher's Daughter are very good) Oh, and that she finds yellow teeth attractive😬 (I watched part of a LIVE)
Ok, I had no idea about her history and I want to listen and react to so much more. And you are cracking me up about the yellow teeth!
@@mendwithmere I made one of your faces when she said that!🤣
Oh god…. I could only listen until the middle cause it was hard. Thank u for your thorough analysis Mere❤
I recommend you to listen to Florence and the Machine, particularly to King, Hunger or Various Saints and Storms. The themes in her songs vary so much. She is literally a mermaid on earth (there is kinda an intrinsic connection between her and water, the ocean). This shows in several of her songs.
Another recommended artist is Weyes Blood. Well, I can’t put into words what I feel when I listen to her. Her voice is reminiscent of magic, purity, and a mix of galactic, powerful energy that covers up your entire body, particularly when you listen to Movies. Too hyperbolic but that is what I feel 💜 haha. Movies and Andromeda are fantastic! Their sounds are most unique. You will not regret.
Also you kinda remind me of Florence!
Xoxo💜
I’ve chosen a tamer one, 😅interesting to see people’s viewpoint since it’s family for me
That’s a major compliment about Florence!
It is very hard to listen to but so important. I will definitely check out and react to these other artists. I love the way you described how it makes you feel! Makes me so curious❤
I have got to say
I was sexually abused as a child, and again as an adult
Hearing the line "touch me till i vomit" hits me hard but seeing the empathy in your reaction hits me harder, I think
I had a long time before i was able to handle others' empathy about these experiences. It's something I've been working on in therapy. This kind of signals... I dunno. Feels like something just loosened in me. I'll have to tell my own therapist, I think. Thank you
On a completely different note, i really like Ethel Cain and this song; some of ny favorites of hers are Starvation Vultures, Unpunishable, and Crying During Sex. I'd love it if you could react to some of those. Starvation personally makes me very sad and I understand if, given how uncomfortable this song made you feel, you don't want to engage with more of Ethel's work. But i feel like her work can be very powerful for people who have been through this kind of abuse and trauma.
Thank you for sharing this. I am definitely doing more of Ethel Cain.
I want to say that, even though I don’t know you, I love you. I hate what you’ve gone through and I’m unsure if you are saying something loosened in a positive way? Or is it too much to hear/be reminded of? I wanted to vomit bc no one should be subjected to that but I also am aware how so so so many people have this experience but never share. It’s important not to stay hidden and I’m glad you shared bc someone else is reading this and feeling less alone. The victim shouldn’t bear the shame, even tho they often do, only the perpetrator should have the shame. Sending you 💗
@@mendwithmere @mendwithmere thank you so much for your responsiveness, for checking in, for your continued empathy 💗
When I say something loosened, it's positive. Loosening in the sense of a tension I had grown so used to, I didn't realize it was there.
You're so right that these experiences are unfortunately more common than many realize, and in my opinion while art like Ethel's may at times be discomforting or even painful to listen to, for many it helps us uncover a voice we've been struggling to find.
You're so right about shame, too. There are all sorts of reasons we come to blame ourselves, as I've learned during recovery; something I would remind victims of abuse of any kind is that the abuser always had a choice, and it is never your fault that someone else chose to harm you.
I’m relieved to hear it is positive, you deserve to have it loosened and I want you to know I’m sending you so much ❤
Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comforted
damn i love that
"Pissing on the stove to put it out" makes me think that it was a form of punishment and one of the coping mechanisms was to piss on the stove so it doesn't hurt as much.
Please do ‘Hard Times’ by Ethel Caín as well please 😭
this video came onto my recommended a few days ago n finally decided to watch it , this happend to me with my father up untill i was about 15 or 16. now 23 still going to family events and everytime he will come up to me and try to give me a hug n kiss (even though i dont want it.) but i never really said no because i didnt want my family to ask why because nobody knows because when i did tell my mother she told me that she would make sure that my family never talked to me/contacted me again and i dont want that at all so i never really told anyone else. im not really gonna say anymore but thank you so so so much for making this video. love u sm and respect you so much for making this.
Thank you for sharing this and you can hopefully see from the comment section that you are not alone. Sharing this is brave and keep in mind that there’s someone not ready to even acknowledge what happened as real within themselves and they may be reading this and understanding how prevalent this experience is. I hate how you were treated when you talked about it to your mother. Sounds like you were treated like the perpetrator, not the victim. It’s not okay and I hope you are getting support in the ways you can. Sending you so much love.
The topics that can be touched by you reacting to the full album are very useful and needed by so many people, BUT I really think that this album is a piece full of all that you felt just with this one song.
i think that youtube isn't gonna promote this kind of content and sadly Ethel doesn't have a huge fan base to support this videos.
if you decide to continue to post about her I will be impressed and grateful for your bravery but if you don't, we completely understand that this is hard.
we love your content, nobody is doing what you do, in the way and with the nuance that you have.❤
I have not lived through this, but as someone whose boyfriend has dealt with SA as a child, this song always makes me cry as I think of him. The fact that these things happen yet so often go unnoticed tears me apart. Ethel truly captures the essence of despair and sadness. Incredible reaction - I could tell it definitely struck you hard.
What a moving reaction. The song is horrifying and haunting and I broke down the first time I heard it. To know that this is something that so many people have had to deal with being SA'ed and the physical and emotional aftermath is soul crushing. Thank you for reacting.
YES I REQUESTED ETHEL ❤ THANK YOU PLEASE LISTEN TO PREACHERS DAUGHTER IN ORDER
yes yes yes
thank you so much for reacting to Ethel Cain
your first reaction of “okay, there’s something… wrong going on here” killed me 😂
By the way if you choose to listen to more Ethel, this is her most unsettling song (imo), even though Ptolemaea is a literal horror movie. I think you’ll like Preachers Daughter, which is her debut album. It is a 76 minute epic involving generational trauma in which the character Ethel Cain eventually gets murdered and cannibalized. Heavy trigger warning on Strangers for the cannibalism. The only song depicting SA on the album (Hard Times) is nowhere near as graphic as Inbred.
I LOVE YOU MERE😭😭😭 PLZZZ DO MORE ETHEL CAIN PLEASEEEEEEE
Omgg thank you for this!!! We need a preacher's daughter album reaction 😭❤
i’ve listened to this song so many times but seeing you react that way while breaking it down made me so sad and sick to my stomach. :(
PLEASE DO HOUSE IN NEBRASKA
YESSS
4:59 - Ethel is a character, and the character she's playing in this song is not only inbred, but in severe poverty. The holes in the door and a coal or wood stove (not one you can just turn off) are some of the hallmarks of that poverty on display.
But yeah... dark fuckin' stuff... I think it's insanely evocative, and the wall of sound in the chorus, with its constant cymbal crashing, is just too good not to appreciate. It's As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner, but brought into the modern day in the spookiest of rural depression-core aesthetics. I can't get enough Ethel... Something really uniquely engaging about her music, and I understand that she does all the production on her own, too.
I think all of Preacher's Daughter is worth checking out, but American Teenager might be the most palatable. Still VERY dark... but... manageably so.
I like to interpret the song as the mom and brother are actually already dead. “Something smells rotten and it’s starting to spread” and how her mom can’t “leave” the bed. And coming to the point were she loved and missed them so much it turn into something more.
I don’t think the brother is dead, at least not until the end of the song when the father possibly kills him for trying to protect ethel from him
This made me sick, I know the song already and I love it but this made me understand it even more. It’s funny to me how she writes these kind of songs and then in reality she’s the sweetest human alive. I read a little about her child/teen-hood and woah, she had to go trough so much
Where did she talk about this?
@@simonettagenovese2518 I found some information on Wikipedia. She might have talked about it but I have no idea
first time seeing one of your videos and omg you were going through it... don't worry though that's pretty much how everyone feels listening to ethel's music for the first time. hayden (ethel's real name) is an amazing storyteller and she certainly doesn't hold back when it comes to telling the story she wants to tell
Damn, i looove ethel, but i am a bit scared for you 😭 this is a very heavy song
i highly reccomend hard times by ethel cain as well it also deals with this topic but in a really beautiful and interesting way
"Sucking on the back of his leg to stay warm, that's very.....odd."
i interpret the story as she's being abused by her brother but her parents are letting it happen. (perhaps because they we're religious and she was trans). "they knew you were wrong". i agree that she's most likely entering freeze mode when it happens. "who knows how much longer i'll lay on the floor? touch me til i vomit". i also think she is singing this song while they are grown up and she is distanced from her brother and he has his own family. she could be expressing concern that her brother has a daughter and he probably would abuse her too. "does your baby know her daddy's a r*pist?" i think she is resentful of her entire family (rightfully so) for either allowing the abuse or maybe not accepting her identity. ethel cains music is gut wrenching in the best way.
Hayden is an absolute genius at creating music and stories. She will forever be one of my favorite artists.
Ethel Cain is literally the best artist to exist, she truly makes you feel something
PLEASSE PLEASE listen to more ethel, her music is dark very dark but it’s so interesting and her lyrics are amazing. Her album preachers daughter is a rollercoaster so if you listen make sure you read the genius annotations so you understand the story. Other songs not on PD I would reccomend: head in the wall, golden age, crush, two headed mother.
I think the song is about a girl growing u with an abusive father, a mother who’s absent, largely because she is on drugs, or maybe dealing with her own mental/physical health issues, and an older brother, who starts out protecting her, but becomes increasingly destructive as he grows up. They are poor, and likely in a secluded community where it’s easier to hide really dark and abusive situations. ‘Pissing on the stove to put it out’ may be something she saw the brother do, that is symbolic of how he creates new problems in a failed attempt to fix his own suffering. It’s an extreme and nonsensical response, just like urinating on the stove. She and her brother have an almost unnatural closeness and trauma bond because of this.
At some point her brother rapes her and she has mixed feelings about it, and they end up with a child, most likely as teenagers. She doesn’t want to believe that this is who he now, the person who protected her as kids is now the one hurting her, and she wants him to be that safe figure still, but he isn’t. On some level she knows it but she is in denial. The scream at the end is the reality creeping into her thoughts and it’s unknown if she accepts he is no longer a safe figure. I was also rooting for the brother until the ‘does your daddy know her father’s a rapist’ line. He could come back from just getting arrested, likely for drugs, fights, and other ‘acting out’ crimes, and being an asshole. People with horrible pasts come back from these things all the time. But I would not advise allowing someone who abuses you like that into your life. Honestly I advocate for avoiding sexual predators even if they never hurt you, as much as possible. You don’t know when you will introduce them to someone that they will hurt. That’s one of the behaviors that greatly exceeds the category of regular human dysfunction, no matter how you grew up. But because if that trauma bond, and her own wounds, she goes a different direction than her brother and she is unhealthily kind and compassionate, even when someone does something abhorrent to her.
this is one of my favorite songs of hayden’s. the vocals, the yell at the end, the everything. it’s truly saddening, but quite hauntingly beautiful
loving to see some Ethel Cain here on the channel!
as a person who’s been through all of this and because it is a norm in my family, this song is a coping mechanism for me.
Powerful. Filled with pain. That ending, though. You can feel it.
When I was 17, I worked at a Church/Christian School, and the pastor spoke with me when I was upset, I ended up falling asleep on the sofa in his office. Upon waking, Ihe was nassaging my neck. I couldn't remember when or how I fell asleep or for how long or what may have transpired. I have so much anger towards the church now. He was so charismatic and likable and on fire in the pulpit but cruel behind the scenes harming his disabled child and cheating on his wife, etc. When I heard Preachers Daughter, it truly stood out to me. If you want to analyze anything by Ethel/Hayden, that would be the album. It's scary, beautiful, dark, and emotional.
i have always thought the line " who will take the fall, who of us is stronger?" is about the biological effects of inbreding.
so much to unpack... never heard ethel cain's music, that's my first time listening and i just never heard anyone make music like this, it's beyond be on being open her wounds to everyone
i was also born in west virginia, although i've been in north carolina for well over a decade... let's just say that ethel cain's music is very cathartic for me
you should do her song Ptolamea next.
This poor therapist woman is traumatized now omg 😢 who did this?!
This Whole New Southern Gothic music is really exposing the cracks of how people in traditional religious culture, are not as '' good and proper'' as they always claim to be, I was raised in a religious cult of 15 siblings, and let me tell you, there was marital rape, Incest, and beatings, I hated life, wanted to die, try to kill myself two times, I got schizophreniform Disorder, depersonalization/Derealization, (damn near had some paranormal experiences, ) I had an a violent Exorcism committed on me, Because my parents did not understand my autism. I almost became a neo-nazi, because of my post traumatic stress embitterment.
the fact I am still alive today, amazes me, I am almost 30, but I was gonna jump off a cliff on my 29th birthday last July. Still waiting for things to get better, but right now I am fighting depression, Insomnia, and mild Anorexia. Ethel Cain kinda just drew me in, Because well, its relatable.
if you end up doing preacher's daughter in order, you should also look at the genius annotation for each song so you can get a better sense of the plot (the songs don't always make it clear). No spoilers but so much goes down with that album
Selby wall Ethel Cain next if you're up for it. She's a very dark artist, her music is a deep way of coping for me. There are some things alot of people I feel will not understand due to not going through such things themselves. Til it happens to you - Lady Gaga
Thank you, Meredith, for helping us thru difficult stuff by listening and reacting to this wonderful artist Ethel Cain.
Ethel Cain is literally one of my favorite artists of all time as a Native genderfluid and two spirit DID system and her album preacher's daughter really hits close to home because her music unfortunately hits so close to home for so many reasons, including incest like this song suggests. thank you so much for this.
Omg finally Ethel. Please do Preacher’s Daughter album.
OMG I love Ethel Cain. Her voice is phenomenal and it’s all stories. She is an amazing story teller. She gives me chills just listening to her. ❤❤. Yes I understand that the song is hard to digest, like alot of her songs. You need to listen to her album preachers daughter from the first song to the last, in order then Google what it’s about. You will truly be sick to your stomach
you NEED to do her album preachers daughter next!!
This song is quite a way to get introduced to ethel😭. Her album preachers daughter is INCREDIBLE
I would say this song is one of her darker ones. Her music is dark on the whole but this one is particularly rough. There are definitely some lighter ones on Preacher’s Daughter.
LOVE FACT THAT YOU MENTIONED TRUE DETECTIVE her songs always remind me of rust cohle tbh
feeling sick is a reaction but this song is so cathartic for me who has family trauma, even if not related to sa.
You should give her new album a listen! Preacher's daughter is my 2022 AOYT
yessss
Omg I’ve been wanting you to react to Ethel Cain!! Such a great artist!!
this is one of my favs from her
now we wait for Ptolemea by Ethel Cain
My heart goes out to any of you commenting with personal experiences . . . I admire this artist for the ability to convey so much emotion and I ended up at this reaction for that reason. I think songs like this serve many purposes. For the unfortunate ones, clearly you're not alone. For the rest of us, it gives the gift of empathy. Take care, all of you.
You radiate such an empatic energy
MORE ETHEL CAIN ❤️❤️❤️we here for it girl
She was born a male an is now transgender woman so that makes sexual abuse even more troubling. I'm a survivor of multiple men sexual abusing me my first memory is of abuse being picked up out of a playpen .and it's not easy to rise above . But for males I feel it's even harder in a way
this song makes me nauseous because I feel so bad for Ethel
YESSSSSSS!! So happy you’re reviewing ethel cain :)
I kind of interpreted it as, like, her older brother isn't the abuser - but he's not doing anything to protect her, either. She thinks he will, if he finds out, because she loves him, and how could he not save her? It feels like she's trying to justify her love for adults that enable her abuse. The line "if he wakes up he'll show you what I'm talking about" just feels like she's straight up in denial to me.
“if you take too many backroads, you’ll end up somewhere out of deliverance.” girl you just ended up in kentucky.
😂
You did Lana and now Ethel! Thank you ❤
Minute 8 where she talks about being wrong, those lyrics make me think that people always said that there is something wrong with her. Perhaps of all her family members she was the one who became the object of affection because "they knew she was wrong all along"
If you listen to Ptolemaea by Ethel Cain it’s one heck of a ride, I love this video.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
Can u please react to the song Linger by Poppy, I think the lyrics are very very deep and a bit disturbing, I think shes talking about herself and her duality but some say is about two people, is kinda dark, not as this song u reacted here though but still dark too. Also the song The attic by Poppy, that is less dark but very very sad, I just feel those two songs are really interesting to analize from a psychological point of view
Btw Poppy said that album is not fictional but rather honest and most of the lyrics came from her personal journal
damn mere they made u listen to one of her Darkest songs ever for the first time
Do Hard Times by Ethel Cain!!
Please read the genius lyrics breakdown it is not that serious I swear. Your interpretation is worrisome but Ethel explains what she means. Her brother's weird and kinda bad but he protects her cause they've got nobody else, mother's I'll and not present. The abuser is somebody else who has a daughter.
Her real surname is Anhedönia..fitting
What?! That’s fascinating
This is Hayden's chosen surname.
@@JulietMHornerah that makes sense as it is very unusual!
please do more ethel cain
Yea, it turns out the world sucks.
Seriously. Makes me so angry.
CAN u react to they're all around us by Poppy there's a visualizer
Oh the Pepsi is iconic 😂😂
Yeessss Ethel is so good!
out of all her songs, even the entirety of preacher's daughter, it's this song that I can barely listen to. something about the lyrics and production makes it feel far too close to the bone
Ethel is the the queen.