IK Multimedia ToneX Unbiased Review

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024

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  • @TheCyberMantis
    @TheCyberMantis Год назад +22

    The intro thing was funny. So true. Not just for this ToneX thing, but it seems like any new piece of gear that comes out these days, gets the same treatment. The hype-train is real. Way too many "gadgets" in the market now.

  • @pythonflying
    @pythonflying Год назад +7

    Great honest review. It seems too often that some feel compelled to give gear a favorable review, but the proof is really in the sound quality from it in your own environment.

  • @michaelgibson8585
    @michaelgibson8585 Год назад +7

    I appreciate the time you took to go through everything and look at not just the positives, but also any kind of things that would trick people up. I just want to say based off the amps I’m looking at in the background there, I definitely would purchase every single one of those if you did captures of them. I know it would be a ton of work, but I think a lot of metal heads like myself, would appreciate it!

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад +6

      Thank you so much for commenting. I really appreciate it. I also appreciate the encouragement regarding capturing the amplifiers . It's going to be a huge task, but I think I should do it for you guys. The income would also help the channel as well.

    • @michaelgibson8585
      @michaelgibson8585 Год назад

      @@TONEWARSgearshow any idea ballpark how much they’d each be?

    • @benburnett8109
      @benburnett8109 Год назад

      I am on Jarrod like white on rice about doing captures of his amps. Jarrod mainly just "works out" and "washes cars" so he HAS PLENTY of time to do captures. And I need real Metal Amps that are captured properly. Bad captures for free on all the paid demos do nothing for me.

    • @DJ33
      @DJ33 Год назад

      That’s was a great intro.edited best vid on the Tonex in a honest way. Well done

    • @Jeremynew98
      @Jeremynew98 Год назад +1

      I've got one on preorder now and I would absolutely be interested in your captures. I can't think of any you tubers aside from maybe Ola, that has the high gain tonal quality of your channel. I can't afford to buy the high gain monsters you have, but I would definitely pay a reasonable price for a capture that is 90 percent there as far as matching the sound of the amp.

  • @TaylorDanley
    @TaylorDanley Год назад +5

    As someone who was part of the launch, yeah I had NO idea how many other people were involved as well (you usually don’t). And it was surprising to see.
    A few things I’ll put here for anyone who is curious.
    IMO if a company offers to pay you for a review and the product sucks, I think the etiquette is to politely decline. If you like it, or even just think it’s fine, just do your best to demonstrate it in a way that’s helpful and (hopefully) entertaining.
    Lastly, I think people get way too hung up on the “does it sound better than x,y,x”. They all sound good. They’ll all work for your tech death demo that 15 people will hear. The real difference is the experience. Did you enjoy using it? Does it solve some workflow problem? Those are the things that I think are important with these products.
    Sorry for the long comment, great intro. Very accurate 😂

  • @joshmcclure5150
    @joshmcclure5150 Год назад +3

    I’m glad I watched this all the way through. Too many “polished” videos on RUclips to make a immediate purchase for a Tonex. Maybe later I’ll look at one. Tone Wars thank you for giving me what I needed to hear.. a honest review with an honest opinion. Saved me some $$ to spend on something else more needed.

  • @philsalvage
    @philsalvage 10 месяцев назад +2

    The first 4 minutes was GLORIOUS. I couldn't smash the subscribe button sooner.

  • @alexolvera7693
    @alexolvera7693 15 дней назад

    Thank you for your honesty. It makes me look around a little harder to shop around to get what I'm looking for.

  • @stevengoodman3498
    @stevengoodman3498 Год назад +2

    Brutal sounding capture you made bro with the Tone X. Awesome stuff man!

  • @riffer-t
    @riffer-t Год назад +3

    Best. Intro. Ever... Hilarious man. Great review. Keeping the QC for sure. Loving the ToneWars Hi Watt captures that i bought from you. So good. Thanks

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you loved the video and you are enjoying the captures. I really appreciate the support very much.

  • @MrGuitarmike2222
    @MrGuitarmike2222 Год назад +9

    Dude you been cracking me up! I'm telling you should get into acting. The characters that you morph into are funny then shit. Best gear channel on the plane-t. Thanks for all you do A+

  • @adamanderson8838
    @adamanderson8838 Год назад +1

    Excellent advice from a seasoned pro. I really appreciated your delivery i this one. I gave a future rig to look forward to & thanks to you I have a lot to think about.

  • @notalkguitarampplug-insrev784
    @notalkguitarampplug-insrev784 Год назад +5

    The Quad Cortex capture always has that high fizzy noises I real hate, that’s why I went 100% ToneX

    • @Carlosdamiano
      @Carlosdamiano Год назад

      Not only quad cortex did sound fizzy in this demo..But it kind of make this weird choked sound.. Hard to explain

  • @Liam_Doherty_UK
    @Liam_Doherty_UK Год назад +5

    That first capture is mind blowing! Is this available anywhere?
    Regards from the UK 👍

  • @JG-xn6sb
    @JG-xn6sb Год назад +5

    Listen, I’m going to start by saying I never offer critiques of these videos because the subject matter is entirely too subjective.
    W/that said, here it comes… You made it painfully obvious you aren’t getting paid, the you then back peddled saying you weren’t being accusatory of other creators but that’s exactly what you did. Ok… I guess it’s just projection then. Sorry, not sorry…
    It’s obvious to those that did, that maybe you didn’t do much homework before you jumped in to “deep” end of the intermediate pool. The recording process & procedures for obtaining a capture are simple, straightforward & easy. So easy a caveman could do it…. You had difficulty, that’s ok & I’m not ishing on that… that fact that you’re implying everyone is having or will have the same issue you had aren’t realistic & that all the captures you heard were ish. Yeah, not only do I not believe that, but that’s incoming you’re sending directly back to the other professionals who happen to also be creators & you piss on theirs too!? I’ve listened to a lot of these, and tone wise they might not be in your wheelhouse but there are some extremely dynamic captures out there not fitting into your narrow genre but certainly are more than gig-able on any pro stage.
    Next issue is 100% pure criticism… over 20 minutes into a 33 minute video & still haven’t heard your idea of a good tone or capture. Finally @ 23:33 we get to hear the only good capture on Tonex 🤫
    My summation is this… you missed the point of what this experience of Tonex is. Tonex, in my belief is geared toward those who want to play in the capture game (for the simplicity of downsizing, for example) but can’t afford or justify the price of what amounts to adding a boutique amp to your gear collection just for current capture technology hardware. Some, of said hardware may be slightly dated & a hell of a lot more cumbersome than Tonex, but you barely touched on these 3 incredibly important qualifiers which I suspect never came across to you, they are… sound & feel quality, simplicity of use (sorry) & price, because no matter how you cut it you’re still getting QC & Kemper capture quality (some will argue better) @ a fraction of the cost. That’s Tonex & that’s who Tonex is for.
    My bonafides: 45yrs playing & 25 as a professional guitar tech.

    • @steveeckert8396
      @steveeckert8396 Год назад +1

      I didn’t make it to 23:00. When he said “I don’t even own a DAW” I was done. This has to be the most one sided review I’ve seen to date…… maybe with the exception of Rolling Stone back in the day😳

  • @400_billion_suns
    @400_billion_suns Год назад +4

    Not sure if any other comments mentioned this yet, but it's actually your computer's graphics card (GPU) which affects how fast TONEX can create its models. Specifically, you need an Nvidia graphics card. This is because most of the neural network and AI research has leveraged the CUDA cores of Nvidia graphics cards to do the heavy lifting, and TONEX works the same way. I have an old gaming laptop from 2015 with an Nvidia GTX970M graphics card. It creates captures at "normal" settings start to finish in 15 minutes, and that's a very outdated GPU by modern standards.

    • @Joe-mz6dc
      @Joe-mz6dc Год назад +2

      Exactly this. I've been working in IT for 30+ years primarily in support type positions. Nvidia has dominated business graphics and I'm referring to such animals as AutoCAD and 3D CAD. That's where the money is and that's where the development has happened. It makes sense that they leveraged that technology because it's so ubiquitous.

  • @ArtoftheDial
    @ArtoftheDial Год назад +8

    I love all kinds of mics, but there is a reason the SM57 has been used on countless recordings over decades when studios had tons of options including ribbon mics such as the industry standard Royer 121 along with others. "Bigger" tone isn't always what you want in a mix or live - unless you are a bedroom player tone usually needs to fit in a confined specturm to work in the context of everything else. It is missleading to suggest an SM57 isn't good enough plenty of the best engineers have used it when far more expensive options were an arms reach away. And the setup is quite easy for anyone with any experience with re-amping. I do agree IKM didn't do the best job capturing their own amps (you will notice there is plenty of other stuff than SM57s in there) but there are 3rd party captures that sound outstanding.

  • @zettepix2009
    @zettepix2009 Год назад +1

    😂 Loved the intro. The review as well :)

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs Год назад +1

    I buy one thing... then the next thing comes out.
    But then I plug into my amps and I remember why I love to play.

  • @DreidMusicalX
    @DreidMusicalX Месяц назад

    I agree and I got it just a couple months ago and I hook it up through a tube return in the effects loop and use it on my pedal board. It's now been a year and they just now as of July 10th I believe it was on my birthday that fixed latency issues it has when trying to use it as live rig. It's working great now. I also know what you mean by many of the tones people load onto it. But now people are figuring out how to do it right and I have to say. Some of these captures, especially ODS Dumbles, Two Rock, PRS captures you can find on there now. HOLY SHIT! Some really bad ass tones!~ Many people are finally get clean tones down better with the volume levels as well that were so low!
    I have to say, I am more than happy with it now.

  • @metalsthelaw4238
    @metalsthelaw4238 Год назад

    Incredible, and yet pretty accurate intro!! That made my morning Tone Wars, thank you!

  • @jcsk8
    @jcsk8 Год назад +1

    Gotta love unbiased reviews. Thanks for that.

  • @lpacheco690
    @lpacheco690 Год назад +1

    I appreciate your honesty in all your reviews to start. I do not own one amp other than a quad cortex so I am really in Mercy other people's captures to find my tone that I could work with as far as heavy tones you're the king my man the song freaking awesome I was going to buy tone x but I am glad I watched your video you made a lot of sense. by the way if you have any good chapters for the QC send me a link and I would like to purchase your captures keep up the good work my man I know you're a busy man but it would be nice to see more reviews on your Channel
    .

  • @psc502
    @psc502 Год назад +14

    I think the pedal is designed for a modern pedal board set up(into front of house or a frfr cab). Goes great into the loop in of a HX Stomp for midi patch controls or the middle of a pedalboard set up. Not a replacement for a Kemper Stage or a Quad QC but a less expensive option to add realistic Amp tones for consistent sound over and over on gigs. Could gig with just it if you don't use FX other than the built in reverb.

    • @tomix1970pl1
      @tomix1970pl1 Год назад +1

      Realistic sound?Hm...

    • @themodernguitarist
      @themodernguitarist Год назад

      Yeah I wouldn't say this is a replacement for an all-in-one modeler rig. But if you already have an existing modeler like a Fractal or Helix, or any kind of multi-FX or even already have a full FX chain and want something for amp/tone captures, this is great.

    • @Theyrewrong827
      @Theyrewrong827 Год назад

      its for people who cant afford a real amp.

  • @SalsaBro
    @SalsaBro Год назад

    You didn't hold back man and it is refreshing to hear the truth and not a sales pitch!

  • @NaturalAquarium
    @NaturalAquarium Год назад +5

    Time to make ToneWars RawSewage 100W signature amp

  • @ikestoddard2458
    @ikestoddard2458 Год назад +1

    I have a basic question. Is a “capture” a snapshot of an amp at a given setting? So it is not an amp model really, but a slice of the bigger model? Have I got the right clue so far?

  • @moreguitarplease6199
    @moreguitarplease6199 Год назад

    My first impressions of the pedal presets were the same. But your tones make me wanna rock this damn learning curve!

  • @oudaram1
    @oudaram1 Год назад

    Thanks for the honesty, i'm having the same experience with the GX100 as far as the presets go and thinking of sending it back every other day.

  • @LunaGuitars68
    @LunaGuitars68 5 месяцев назад

    This is my kind of review!! Would've like to have heard what you heard in the other captures that tipped you off that they were captured wrong...

  • @Vhladd1
    @Vhladd1 Год назад +2

    Nice review! I recently picked up the Tonex and matched it with a Helix Effects to handle what I need. I was originally trying to swing for a QC, but that was still a ways out of my budget. Since I won't be making any captures, I think this will do for me everything I need. I hope you do end up keeping the pedal and making some quality captures.

    • @TheChicagoTodd
      @TheChicagoTodd Год назад +2

      Jarrod's statement of "There are no great captures to use on the Tonex" will be null and void when he creates his captures.... :-)

    • @MotownGuitarJoe
      @MotownGuitarJoe Год назад

      I had the same thought. How's that working out with your HX Effect? Are you placing the Tonex in HX Effects effect loop?

    • @Vhladd1
      @Vhladd1 Год назад

      @@MotownGuitarJoe I have run the ToneX both ways: One going direct into the HX, and the other using the HX's Effects Loop. If you're using the HX's Dirt pedal models, you'll want to place the ToneX in the Effects Loop - but, if you have any dirt pedals you can simply hit the front of it and out to the HX. The issue of using the Effects Loop is that you essentially use up 2 of the 9 blocks in the HX for the Loop. Not a problem either way. I have a Fuzz, an OD and a Dist pedal, but still run everything through the loop.

  • @MattHuntguitar
    @MattHuntguitar 3 месяца назад

    Totally honest as usual! Thank you

  • @IamMusicNerd
    @IamMusicNerd Год назад +2

    I downloaded some captures from The Studio Rats and they sound awesome, but admittedly they are more clean and low gain tones. I don’t play as much high gain or metal stuff, so that may be why I am so much happier with mine. Plus it’s 1/5th the price of the Quad Cortex and Kemper.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад

      Glad you found some good captures. I'm working on some high gain stuff soon.

  • @Elshonio
    @Elshonio 8 месяцев назад

    Nice views given here - I’ve picked one of these up on the Black Friday deals, so just starting to explore what I can get out of it. My intention is pretty much as you suggested - an easy to travel with way to get some (hopefully) decent tones without lugging a bunch of gear around. You’ve a new sub brother, keep ‘em coming ;)

  • @ThatMFShawnzy
    @ThatMFShawnzy Год назад

    As funny as the intro was, this was the most thorough, thought out and RAW video about the tonex and I appreciate that

  • @joelortiz2281
    @joelortiz2281 Год назад +22

    You can’t judge this unit by it’s presets.…. The presets are made by other people according to their subjective taste to capture THEIR TONE. The whole point of this unit to to capture YOUR TONE and to be able to take it anywhere anytime. The reason for everyone’s excitement is that you can do that without paying $2,000 for a Quad Cortex or Kemper and it’s small enough to integrate into a pedal board.

    • @jpn3971
      @jpn3971 Год назад +3

      If you have to buy an additional box to make your captures, buy a very expensive microphone and buy quality multieffects to go with your Tonex, not to mention that you can't capture your pedal sounds at the same time and put in your amp sounds!
      What's the advantage in the end?

    • @KG-wp6gh
      @KG-wp6gh Год назад +2

      The issue is that IK typically has default tones that sound like rubbish.

    • @Joe-mz6dc
      @Joe-mz6dc Год назад +4

      @K G I've owned and played many physical devices such as Line 6 POD and Vox ToneLab SE Etc as well as played dozens of software amplifier sims including from UAD, AmpliTube, Guitar Rig... I can safely tell you that in 75% or more of the cases the default tones sucked balls. I have no idea why this is but it's just the way things are. I can't imagine that the taste of the people that work at these companies is that bad so it must have something to do with personal preference. I guess what I'm trying to say here is, you can't measure the quality of any physical or software Audio guitar amplifier product by the default sounds. You have to judge it by how easily you can tweak it and get it to the sounds that you really like and that those sounds are high enough quality that it merits the price point.

    • @Hopkins132
      @Hopkins132 Год назад

      @@Joe-mz6dc yea preset tones are horseshit idk how or why

    • @illuminati1911
      @illuminati1911 Год назад +1

      This is only theoretically true, but not in practice. Beauty is also subjective, but 90-95% of the people prefer the same thing, food is subjective but everyone loves pizza etc. Same with sound. People know what a good metal/5150/JCM800/plexi/etc tone is although there may be slight variations. Tone Wars calls this out because he is used to QC and other platforms where 20-30% of the sounds are ok-ish, 10-20% are unsable and rest are more or less awesome. With Tonex and more specifically ToneNET the issue is that 90% are unusable in any context and there is only handful of good tones which usually come from top influencers like Ola Englund.
      Also let's be real. Most people are not gonna capture anything with these. They buy these so that they don't have to buy amps, cabs, pedals etc. and so that they can access collection of gear worth of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Also the people who want to capture their setup with these surely also want to access cloud and get access to that "unlimited" selection of gear.

  • @udamann88
    @udamann88 Год назад

    I truly like your page, style & appreciate your honest thoughts. The tones you go for & get, are really awesome! A++ on the playing as well. Peace! X-Mann 👊🏻❌🤘🏼

  • @sebrura
    @sebrura Год назад +1

    Huge thank you for having the balls to being honest! All these super duper positive game changing "reviews" are ridiculous

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад +1

      My pleasure! Thanks so much for commenting. I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
      The ToneX is a good product, but it's not without its quirks.
      The captures are great but not easy to do

  • @alexandertorrente198
    @alexandertorrente198 Год назад +1

    I like the honesty! Way I see it is that no computer can perfectly capture something, you have to realize though, that to the untrained ear, there will be no difference. Another awesome thing about it is that you can use stereo, whereas you may need two of the same amp if you were to do it the old fashioned way. The other pull is that it doesn't take two trips, several men, and sometimes 100+ LBS of lifting, personally I DREAD the process of taking stuff down after gigs and whatnot.

  • @trevortwigg1384
    @trevortwigg1384 Год назад +2

    I think part of your struggle with the capture process has to do with your familiarity with routing in your digital interface. I already use external effects in my DAW and do reamping. I just turn an old DI box around 🤷🏻‍♂️. It was $30 it works great. I think this caters most to people who already do home recording. It took me 3 hours from when it arrived from fedex to set up mics and figure out the routing, exporting to the pedal, and also configuring my midi controller to tell it what presets to use. All three channels on my TC50 now on the pedal. That includes processing time.
    With that said if you have no interest in studio recording either via digital or analog I’d say don’t bother because I’m pretty sure it’s only as good as the captures you can personally make. You might strike gold with a preset in the libraries but, it’s kind of a craps shoot imo because they’re a snapshot of an amp with the knobs fixed in place. So even if they did a great job it’s still set up for someone else’s ears and guitars.
    I did mine with a Royer and a Lewitt condenser and didn’t even spend a lot of time placing the mics cause I just wanted to get the ball rolling and it turned out great. I half expected it to be kinda meh between not getting tedious with my mics and using the fastest capture method.
    I think over time I’m gonna dig into really getting that right and just improve upon my captures as I go. I read from someone else that the longer method is like 15 minutes on their computer and I have a newer gaming laptop so processing speed is there 😂😂.
    I’m still a little confused as to what you did that your amp switcher threw a wrench into the whole thing. I’m actually just curious as to how that made it a whole thing. Seems like it wouldn’t be an issue.
    At any rate I’m really happy with it but, I can easily see how people would be turned off by it.

    • @willgo7898
      @willgo7898 Год назад

      ... so what is optimal when making captures? ... 1) using the Tonex Capture hardware. 2) using an Axe I/O interface that has reamp function. 3) using a DI box, as you mentioned. Pros/cons of each ?

    • @trevortwigg1384
      @trevortwigg1384 Год назад

      @@willgo7898 I really couldn’t tell ya what’s best there. I did pick up an x-amp reamp box from radial. I’m hoping it’s better but, the captures I have on the method I mentioned came out really good. After doing more research I kinda learned some of the differences and decided an actual reamp box might give better results.
      At any rate comparing and contrasting those things. Pros/Cons etc. having only used it one way I couldn’t say. I am looking forward to spending more time really trying to get it right. I mean I threw a condenser and ribbon in front of the amps in approximately where I’ve come to know that I like those mics and just went for it with the amp in the same room so I didn’t really get to nitpick my placement cause monitoring was near impossible 😂😂. As far as getting started though it was pretty easy. I was just saying if I hadn’t already messed with routing post effects in my digital interface I woulda been lost trying to get started.
      In the course of writing this I realized for most people using the IK branded stuff might be the best route if you don’t already have the stuff to do it. I’d imagine it’s a quicker route to configure it.

  • @RockGuitarVibes
    @RockGuitarVibes Год назад +6

    The best ToneX video so far - you simply nailed it! Love the intro 😂 To me it's kind of a Kemper with less features for less money - the next generation of a ToneX device could be more interesting for me.

  • @nicolasrivera5310
    @nicolasrivera5310 Год назад +1

    Please do captures of the Mark VII, thanks

  • @Jellydonutable
    @Jellydonutable Год назад +1

    I love your honest tongue in cheek review! I recently bought the pedal and went through a ton of captures on tonenet and I couldn't find a decent high-gain amp tone that I liked. They all sounded like crap! I've been playing a Kemper for several years now and as much as I enjoy playing it, I wanted to make a small pedalboard and hook it up to a HX stomp xl that I have for a grab and go. Sorry to that making captures is such a pain in the ass, but if you decide to make them I would buy them cause they sound awesome!

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад +2

      Thank you so much for commenting and for the kind words. I really appreciate it. I was blown away as well at how many worthless, disgusting, garbage captures there were in the app. It was so bad.
      I've decided to start making captures for you guys very soon. I just need to carve out some time to get it done. Stay tuned to the channel and I'll be announcing it when I make them for you guys.

    • @Jellydonutable
      @Jellydonutable Год назад

      @@TONEWARSgearshow That's great news! I'll keep an eye out for them. TIA!

    • @aprilhamlincom18
      @aprilhamlincom18 Год назад

      ​​@@TONEWARSgearshow Hey there - did you do the captures by now? And where can i find them? Tonenet? Best regards

  • @Madlikedad
    @Madlikedad Год назад +1

    I think you can do drive pedals all 3 ways. Pedal stand alone, pedal and amp (can’t be separated post capture), or pedal,amp,& cab with a switchable cab.

  • @JoelGrindMusic
    @JoelGrindMusic Год назад +3

    you don't need a DAW, I did all my captures standalone.

    • @rayzeus
      @rayzeus Год назад +2

      You actually can't capture stuff in a DAW with it. The capture mode is only available in standalone mode (which makes sense since you'd use it in a DAW after having captures be ready to use).

  • @harryanderson7282
    @harryanderson7282 Год назад +4

    I think what would've made this vid more useful as a ratings tool would've been for you to have 1) documented the capturing process, and 2) A/B'd the failed capturing attempt with the one you eventually got.
    Also, I thought the Quad Cortex sounded better than the ToneX, which sounded a little muffled/less defined in comparison.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад +2

      Documenting the capturing process would have been an absolute nightmare to do. It literally took me days to get it all plugged in correctly and figured out. I would have needed to hire a film crew to document all that.

    • @harryanderson7282
      @harryanderson7282 Год назад

      @@TONEWARSgearshow That would've been the point. Still, it's pretty refreshing to see someone actually give their honest opinion on a new piece of gear rather than the all too familiar soft sell.

    • @TheChicagoTodd
      @TheChicagoTodd Год назад

      @@TONEWARSgearshow Breakfast, lunch, dinner, breakfast, lunch.....gets expensive for film crews... ;-)

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад

      @@TheChicagoTodd Yes it does. It's expensive enough just to feed me.

  • @shredaintdead9323
    @shredaintdead9323 Год назад

    Intro was the best thing in months! Hahaha

  • @DaveBloomDrumsOnline
    @DaveBloomDrumsOnline Год назад +1

    I am enjoying mine, but I also play far more than just metal. I also like using petals in front of modelers. Maybe that’s counterproductive to their purpose, but it allows me to use the modeling just for an amplifier and control time in the same I would on my own amplifier. I really enjoy defender clean tones on the Tonex pedal.

  • @andrewrwhitfield
    @andrewrwhitfield Год назад

    Awesome review! Thank you

  • @brettshawver2983
    @brettshawver2983 Год назад

    "Sorry not sorry" your beginning was only missing, at bare minimum, a single nipple tweak(a double nipple tweak woulda been serious "spritzer")but THIS is why I am your biggest fan!!! Your unbiased, real reviews, and demo's - have seriously added to the best gear I've ever owned (i.e. Friedman Powered Cabs, Synergy, Kemper, etc) you are the REAL deal. I've been asked about this device and given my Kemper and FM9 - I can absolutely say there's no GAS for this device. The ONLY piece of gear that still fans my perpetual GAS flame, that's never satisfied - merely pacified for week or two - is the Quad Cortex. That's only because YOU make captures! Which is why I still love my Kemper..... Keep doing the good stuff!!!!!!!🤘😁🤘

  • @DoctorMcFarlandStudios
    @DoctorMcFarlandStudios Год назад +1

    Between the Fractal FM9 and Kemper Stage I am good on guitar tones. If you didn't already have something then Tonex is an option to consider.

    • @gbarth77
      @gbarth77 Год назад

      Imma get it anyway.. I gotta have all the tones!

  • @adamwilcox6405
    @adamwilcox6405 Год назад

    I subscribed on the strength of the sarcastic intro alone. 🤣

  • @donovanyng
    @donovanyng Год назад

    Dude thank you. I’m still on the fence. I got back into guitar and just rely on a computer and amplitube. Someone asked to jam , and I started eyeballing this. Your words on modeling vs capture even opened my eyes to something I didn’t realize in front of my face. And it’s good to know there will be sifting to find the right “thing” on this device and that there’s paid to creator captures as well.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад +1

      Thanks for commenting, I'm glad this video helped you out.
      After spending more time with this unit and upgrading my computer and interface, everything is working much easier and faster for me now
      In fact, as I sit here typing this, I'm doing captures of my Engl Savage MKII, and they are coming out amazing

  • @johnjohnson6672
    @johnjohnson6672 7 месяцев назад

    You are right. Sometimes its best to be honest when you're literally inept at thoroughly evaluating a product. Im sure you'd appreciate someone doing a half ass eval of your hard work as long as they too were honest :)

  • @stephenandvyn4719
    @stephenandvyn4719 Год назад

    Well done for delivering a no nonsense review, thanks.

  • @vaughanmacegan4012
    @vaughanmacegan4012 Год назад

    Thankyou for an unbiased review and explaining the captures and your out-of-the-box experiences. While I am a computer game programmer and understand that technology, I have no idea how to hook up guitar tech to an interface/DAW, so, this made it clear that this product is *NOT* for me. Thankyou from preventing me making a huge mistake.

  • @PippPriss
    @PippPriss Год назад +3

    Now go check out NAM! :-) I have a video on that with an O-FACE THUMBNAIL and I put it to the test against ToneX ;-)

  • @tadgoodman
    @tadgoodman Год назад

    Looking forward to your Tonex captures when they become available.

  • @zhifeihuan8259
    @zhifeihuan8259 Год назад

    Like your review, honest with full useful information.

  • @PippPriss
    @PippPriss Год назад +11

    Watched now the video in it's entirety - a few notes here:
    - You can actually run a captured pedal. You simply have to decide if you either take a pedal capture or an amp capture. What you can do is saving one capture of the amp alone, on with the amp+pedal and then use the switches to switch
    - it seems like you have a small interface with only two inputs/two outputs. If that's the case, yes you have to run this through a DAW to route it properly. I got a video on the subject on my channel for the ones watching this that are interested in this stuff. With an interface with more than 2 outputs, the process is way more straightforward.
    - The firmware version 1.12 had a bug where captures would turn out totally muffled and awful - put me totally off the software, but they fixed it now
    - ToneX unfortunately is not as accurate as NAM, but more accurate than Kemper and QC, at least in Null-Tests.
    All in all, I agree, that coming from your place when it comes to gear setup, this must have been a nightmare. For the "PC guitar player generation" however, the process appears much more logical. I had it figured out quite quickly. Not padding myself on the shoulder, simply giving a different perspective here. However, I also have to admit, that I was very active in the NAM Facebook group, where we shared our results in testing ReAmping etc.,.so that speeded up the pace of learning.
    Anyhow, thanks for you unbiased review and especially thanks for the laugh. The intro was hilarious and 100% true, although I am guilty of all the stuff you make fun of (O-Mouth-Thumbnails, Wiggly guitar dad vibratos and whatnot), but I take it in good spirit! 😎

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад

      Thanks so much for commenting. I can't wait to dig into that product. It's been such a busy week. Hopefully I will get time sometime in the next week or so.
      I appreciate the information you shared here.

    • @TrumpetsInMy4x12
      @TrumpetsInMy4x12 Год назад +1

      Ahhhh the DAW requirement makes sense now. I have the Axe I/O interface and it has the amp out jack so that portion is covered.

    • @benburnett8109
      @benburnett8109 Год назад

      Excellent comment. The internet needs more guys like you. AND I am going to check out your channel. Maybe you and Jarrod could do a collab video one day.

  • @BradRocker
    @BradRocker Год назад

    Thanks for your truthful perspective.

  • @stevekannes89
    @stevekannes89 Год назад

    Thank you man. I took the dive and went thru the same thing. 👍🎸

  • @burtosu86guitar
    @burtosu86guitar Год назад

    I listened to the captures in 4 headphone , PC monitors and random speaker and I didn't heard a diference. And btw, nice vids dude, as always 🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @nathanockleford8017
    @nathanockleford8017 Год назад

    I recently watched your how to get great tone from prs mt15 as it is the only amp I have, I've been thinking the tonex would be cool to have, to at least experience some of the awesome high gains that are out there well beyond a mere mortal like myself and your honesty has made hit that subscribe button dude, I would be very interested in purchasing the amps you have behind you if I do, my neighbors won't be so amused though

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад

      Thanks for commenting. I really appreciate it.
      I will be releasing tonex captures very soon. That product is really impressing me lately.

  • @65pancakes82
    @65pancakes82 Год назад +2

    Good honest review. I'm used to digifal recording. Capture was easy, and my default training takes less than 5 minutes.
    Plenty of mehh tones. Some incredible 3rd party proper captures. I didnt purchase because I cant put tonex pedals in front. I only use verb. I've had the software 5plus months. Awesome on PC. The hype is for grsat tones- when you find them- and great price.

  • @hereonmars
    @hereonmars Год назад

    Hey boss first time commenting but i dig the videos. I ordered a tonex yesterday. I probably wont be doing capturing bc I really only have a jcm800. I will check out some of your captures for my high gain stuff.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад

      Thanks for commenting. Congratulations on the purchase.
      I'm really digging the tonax. The captures are coming out really good! This product is such a great idea because not everybody can afford a $2000 digital platform.

  • @Zygnus
    @Zygnus Год назад +1

    Glad to see this video. The sort of reaction there has been around the ToneX on the guitar RUclips community has been quite silly, and reading between the lines it's obvious IK Multimedia is pretty good at PR and promotion. It's not just free ToneX units they've sent them, it's also a bunch of other gadgets these RUclipsrs are now giving away amongst their audience.
    Myself, I've tried the software running it through my clean tube PA plugged into my cabs, and I'm not impressed - I'd much rather use my real amps. Or even the AxeFX or Cortex, given the tweakability, flexibility and effect chains these offer over the ToneX (albeit at a much higher price).

  • @davidjoel111
    @davidjoel111 Год назад +1

    I fell for the RUclips marketing 🤦🏾‍♂️. I also shared the same first impressions, it took me 3 days to find a decent tone. I feel this will be like the kemper, as time passes and more people do captures we’ll find tones that we like. I don’t know what IK multimedia is smoking but their factory captures sound horrible, and don’t get me started on ampliturd 5, I haven’t been able to make that thing sound half decent. Still debating if I should return it.

  • @ankigonzalez
    @ankigonzalez Год назад

    This was a very good video 👊🏼

  • @johndeaux3703
    @johndeaux3703 Год назад

    I made a bonfire with all my amps in the backyard as soon as I saw the thumbnail, so this thing better be good.

  • @Xiatar
    @Xiatar Год назад

    Good review. Thanks.

  • @thenoboundariesband
    @thenoboundariesband Год назад +1

    Just got mine. I used the software and I didn’t like it. But then I put it through the loop of my old axe fx 2 and used the effects only. And wow. I can’t believe the feel. I hate playing through digital modelers. I just love tube amps. But this thing feels great playing through my pc monitors. I use the soldano, bogner, and plexi capture and they are amazing. The feel is so good. My next step is to turn off the cab and play it through my tube power amp and large pedalboard. And then capture my tube amps. I already own a reamp from dyire for $75. My 2 cents…

    • @Jeremynew98
      @Jeremynew98 Год назад

      Interested in your thoughts on how it sounds through a tube Poweramp. I haven't received mine yet, but will be using it through the effects loop of my amp.

  • @miketeeguitar
    @miketeeguitar 2 месяца назад

    I know I am over stepping here but I plugged it straight in to a mixing board and fed it through 1000 watt Crown amp and every channel so far sounds amazing. I hav a DAW but it is not running. If you want to capture you have to buy the 150 box but that is the price you pay. Instead of a 4 I am going to give it an 11. DAW isa also not needed. You can just use Windows audio settings to route your signal. I will give it as 2 for not coming with the 150 box but some may not want to caprure so 400 for the tones to grab and go is a killer deal if you ask me. I have Line6 Digitech Digitech again and a pedal board. I run time based effects through my mixer. Mixer is tiny so I can bring he mixer, pedals and send an XLR tpo FOH and I am good.
    \m/ \m/

  • @thewrit6946
    @thewrit6946 Год назад

    Thank you for this review, I was looking all over for the review that would MAKE ME want to replace my kemper and found out that I am still to this day happy with the kemper and have no desire to move over to a piece of gear that has very little competing value…even if it is cheaper.
    Now maybe if I have an extra $400 laying around one of these days I’ll give it a try 🤷‍♂️

  • @RECTIFIER101
    @RECTIFIER101 Год назад

    Hell I'm just sitting back waiting on a tonex capture of the stealth !!!!😍😍

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад +1

      It's coming soon

    • @RECTIFIER101
      @RECTIFIER101 Год назад

      @@TONEWARSgearshow bout the time I posted this I saw your red channel demo...shat myself lol

  • @makinganoise6028
    @makinganoise6028 Год назад

    Dude, love your candid review, .thinking about this, tbh, for my Band live, my 100W Katana does what I need, but thinking it would be cool to have captures of classic Amps like Fenders and Vox etc, million dollar question who's tones do you recommend?

  • @luigipati3815
    @luigipati3815 8 месяцев назад

    we ALL owe something to IK Multimedia, in reality. It's because of competition that products and skills improve. As far as I know, they were the very first to develop amp modelling on computer, and their deals, in my view, are second to none, they give more high quality software than anybody when you buy their hardware, and their software, in my opinion, beats all the other in regard to killer value, for example jampoints. They aren't nothing. They just give you a lot, for less. I don't like everything they do, and like you, I am not impressed by most amp sims, some of them have the sound, but as you know nothing really feels like a good tube amp. But I can't fault IK for killer value. Thanks for your honest review, though.

  • @willman100
    @willman100 Год назад

    I agree with your review 100%... I am still hoping that you will make some high end captures for the ToneX

  • @lioneljean4233
    @lioneljean4233 Год назад +1

    Why you can capture overdrive but you cant send them into the toneX pedal ? Because you can use it in Tone X on your computer. And because IK have a series of pedals for delays, distortion,who allow you to transfer your preset from your PC. Youre right, it could be good to have the possibility of transfering overdrive into the Tone X pedal, but they sell similar products already! It's a commercial logic.

  • @itnefer4787
    @itnefer4787 Год назад

    "I didn't even know I needed a DAW" but still ridicules the process of capturing the profiles. This says a lot about your modern technology competence.

  • @robgroden
    @robgroden Год назад +1

    If I didn’t already own the Helix, I would have gotten a QC. But since I have the Helix, I bought the Tonex pedal and I’m running it through the FX loop of Helix. Are all of your captures going to be high gain?

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад

      Thanks for commenting. I think you made a good choice. Running it through your helix is a great idea.
      I'll be doing cleans and mostly high gain stuff. I might be able to do some mid gain stuff as well if there's enough interest. The thing is, it takes so long to make a capture that it's hard to put a lot of variety out there without spending many hours doing it.

  • @CraigCrider
    @CraigCrider Год назад

    You had me at the "O face" montage.

  • @MattW4319
    @MattW4319 Год назад +2

    Hilarious, I felt this when the slo pedal came out. All these modelers and finding the “tone” gets pretty overwhelming. I always go back to putting my cord into the amp input and then I’m happy. Lol

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад +3

      Yeah that was ridiculous as well. I remember when that pedal came out, for like 3 days all I saw were SLO pedal demos.
      I had an opportunity to demo it but I didn't want to. It was just too much. Besides that, I'm not much of a amp in a Box guy.

    • @Dan_Ranger
      @Dan_Ranger Год назад +1

      Pretty much that. In the last 15 years I’ve been the whole merry go round of AxeFx, Kemper etc etc etc to come back to an amp and few pedals. The whole option paralysis crept in with me personally and just went back to one simple tone and now I play more. At home I use a Two Notes Live to rehearse or record.

  • @ErikAnders
    @ErikAnders Год назад

    Great review

  • @usd5000000
    @usd5000000 Год назад

    I don't have pedals or amps anymore. I'm old, I don't want to lug gear around. I play covers in all different genres so I need to cover a wide range of tone. I'm confused about what to buy. I'm thing QC. Help?

  • @psc502
    @psc502 Год назад

    I was into ToneX app before the hype pre-ordered and got a discount from IK so for about 75$ I could get my live Amp tone for free. Spent about 20 hours capturing on a M1 Mac but I didn't have to use my Daw(Logic). Just plugged a Scarlett 2i2 in by USB plug a guitar cable into the Scarlett plug a cable into the left output on the back then into a Boss(buffered) pedal for a reamp box(po guy trick) then into my Amp. Then set up mic plug it into the other input on the front of the Amp and capture. Took a few tries to get Amp eq right for good sounds at about 45 minutes per advanced capture though. Afterwards I was happy to share my basement tones for free but there's a few I wish I didn't upload. Sorry you had such a bad time of it I had never reamped so I think I didn't overthink it and got lucky. Liked your vid despite the criticism, your capture sounds great.

  • @tatt2guy86
    @tatt2guy86 Год назад

    I plug into my amp and cab....still trying to figure out all the Sims and IRs, it's so much to take in because there's so many options available now.
    One thing I will say is that it's not hard to plug in, dial in YOUR tone and have fun

  • @deadcenterarts29
    @deadcenterarts29 Год назад

    Jared, didn't you say on one of your videos that you had some squealing going on in the effects loop of one of your amps or in your switching system with the tone x ? what did you do to get around it. I plan on using this in the loop of my existing preamp /effects processor, utilizing a switching system and a stereo line mixer to take it in and out of the loop. I've had great results with other preamps in that loop. It allows me to use the built-in preamp in my head, and various other preamps called up via midi and route them all through effects.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад

      Thanks for asking. The problem I had was when I was doing captures. I found out that the issue was that my interface need to be upgraded. I ended up getting the focusright and the problem went away.

  • @Guttalaser
    @Guttalaser Год назад

    I agreed with you about maybe the capture process, the more gear that one need to capture an amp and the fact that i.e. the QC - with the same quality - is a more complete full chain replacement with the onboard fxs.
    BUT this is talking about capturing.
    But if one don't have that wall of amps to capture thatyou have behind you... i think 300 bucks is a very good and a cheap (cheaper than the QC) way to thake some (good) captured amps and put the TONEX on the pedalboard.

  • @voxpathfinder15r
    @voxpathfinder15r Год назад +1

    What are these DVD players and Blu ray players you speak of?

  • @JimsMusicJourney
    @JimsMusicJourney Год назад +1

    Funny how you mentioned, would I sell this for that. I only see this competing with or replacing synergy modules. I recently sold my 2 Syn 2 racks and all my modules for the quad cortex. I even sold my axe fx 3. Now it's just quad cortex and h90. Less space and easy to lug around.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад +1

      You made some good choices there. I honestly think modeling is on its way out. It'll be with us for a while because it'll be cheaper than the units that do profiling and capturing. I just think profiling and capturing sounds and feels much better than modeling.

  • @sugarprobe
    @sugarprobe Год назад

    What am I missing with the pedal capture? Maybe I'm not understanding. I have just pedal captures in mine

  • @gilldanier4129
    @gilldanier4129 Год назад +1

    I have to admit I found most high gain presets were crap, way too much spikey top end and flubby bottoms. But when I see the dudes on youtube demoing it, it sounds superb, I guess there setups are better I dont know.

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад

      The free ones are all not very good as far as I've seen. The 3rd party paid ones are really good. The ones I'm doing are coming out fantastic.

  • @jimmyt8047
    @jimmyt8047 7 месяцев назад

    So funny, keep em coming guitar pimp !!!!

  • @illuminati1911
    @illuminati1911 Год назад +2

    Finally real unbiased no-BS review. Thank you. TONEX Pedal really made me re-evaluate the people I follow in the youtube guitar scene.
    I haven't tried the pedal, but I did trial the TONEX plugin on my PC as well as on the iPad and I had the same experience as you. All the ToneNET captures that I tried sounded like absolute shit. Like one of the worst sounds I've ever heard in any plugin. Most of them were also lacking gain big time and turning the knob didn't help much.
    As for the part about allowing the TONEX pedal to also have overdrives and other pedals along with the amp, I don't think they necessarily left it out because they f'd up. Instead it could just be that the TONEX pedal doesn't have enough horse power to run multiple captures or actual complex signal chains. The pedal is already quite affordable (400-500 EUR/USD) so obviously there has to be some tradeoffs. I wouldn't be suprised if they were already selling the pedal and the ecosystem at a loss. (= trying to aggressively undercut the competition).

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад +2

      Thanks for commenting. I appreciate your insight. I'm glad I'm not the only one that had trouble with the captures that were in the app. They all sounded so bad lol. I can't believe people actually thought it was cool to upload those. I would be embarrassed if I made those and Uploaded them.

    • @Thegamer12342
      @Thegamer12342 Год назад +2

      This was me 100 percent. The captures were abysmal. Man do people have bad tone

  • @szveszs
    @szveszs Год назад

    on my headphones, the QC capture compared with the Tonex was straight tiring to hear, so for me straight away the Tonex was better and more enjoyable to hear than QC.

  • @MusicChannel-rf5zz
    @MusicChannel-rf5zz 3 месяца назад

    Hi , I purchased my Tonex in the US. Can I use it at Dubai where they have a different voltage with the same adapt

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  3 месяца назад +1

      Good question, I would definitely reach out to ik multimedia with that one. Sorry, I do not know the answer to that

    • @MusicChannel-rf5zz
      @MusicChannel-rf5zz 2 месяца назад

      @@TONEWARSgearshow Good news! It does work with different voltages . Just needs a plug adapter to fit well into the plug socket .

  • @paulhaullussy8662
    @paulhaullussy8662 Год назад

    Agree that the capture tiem is very long, I would do this only occasionaly, but is was not difficult at all. Plug and play for me. AND...you do NOT need a DAW at all.

  • @ariskoskinas
    @ariskoskinas Год назад

    Man tonex , qc or kemper you feel is more accurate ?

  • @XChristianNoirX
    @XChristianNoirX Год назад

    I thought that one of the major major plusses with this thing is that you can load the captures into your Amplitude or whatever and change all your tones easily, after the fact, without having to reamp with the Kemper etc which is in itself a total PITA.
    So far, the only digital pedal system that has this capability is the Line 6 stuff, albeit without captures... Just their modelling stuff.
    I suppose most other companies don't want to cannibalize their hardware sales... With IK, their main focus is software anyway.
    In the end, I think that IK's angle is mainly a computer based system and the TONEX is just a way to make your captures portable. If you want delays and stuff, just stick a Strymon or whatever after it. Pedals? I still use my real overdrives over any digital solution. The real deals just sound better to me and preserve the same feel etc like when I use real amps, because at least the overdrive is interacting with my pickups the same exact way.

  • @ravenblackfeather4028
    @ravenblackfeather4028 Год назад

    Awesome video bro. I thought all the tonex presets sounded like ass. But you captured some great tone and if everyone uploaded tones like yours it would be worth using tonex. 🎸🎶💥

    • @TONEWARSgearshow
      @TONEWARSgearshow  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much. I will be working on capturing some good tones for everybody so that they can enjoy the unit more.