Seymour Duncan Black Winter vs Nazgul vs Jupiter
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honestly in a full mix imo you can bare hear any difference
While this is mostly true, I think it still matters a lot in terms of feel and if you can get your sound earlier on you won’t have to spend as much time EQing to get your desired sound
Okay just watched his vid. Holy shit he makes them all sound the same lol idk could be the aimless amount of saturation on the tone
You’re both deaf, try cooking
Can barely hear any difference
It's because of the overdrive. Wish pickup reviews were done without overdrive. Or pedals. Raw amp and humbucker
Man every time I think I'm 100% getting Nazgul, I hear demos like this that make me rethink the Black Winter haha
I do love both, but yeah, black winter rules
3:46 thank you for this. As a black metal musician it’s so hard to find gear demos that include this kind of playing. It’s always a gamble on weather or not a piece of gear works well for the genre when everyone always plays chugga chugga riffs. It’s difficult to find something that enhances the note separation when trem picking chords with high gain and not something that sounds like a blender (unless you’re into shit like Revenge or Mütiilation)
Thanks, man, I'm glad I could help
Black winter for black metal all the way! I got it on my Jackson and it's build for it.
@@axelf.3188 hmmm I just ordered Nazgul/Sentient for my BM live rig. We shall see if they hold up, but I'll definitely keep my eyes [and ears] open for the Black Winter. I have played a few guitars with Nazgul/Sentient and I love those bad boys, but have not had the chance to use the black winter. We shall see...
Man your really can't go wrong with Seymour passives they all sound great in their own way. Great video, I like how fast the changes between pickups were so you could really hear the subtle differences.
I just love the Black Winter pickups. I have a set specifically for thicker shit.
Nazgul just hits you in the gut. It just sounds so clear and brutal.
The Black Winters sit up in a mix very well with those upper mids. They all sounded good
Great video, man! I love my Black Winters. I've got them in my baritone guitars and they really help keep the bottom end beefy, but let the mids cut through when they need to.
This is what I need right here! I only play baritone guitars. I'm trying to figure out what pickups would be best for me. 🤘🏼💀
This is what I was wondering about. I want to play some melo-death stuff in B standard and was wondering if Black Winters would be a good fit.
Thanks for the blackened demo so rare to have right music for right pickups in demos
For sure, man, even in this older videos where I hadn't really found my footing yet with videos, I always wanted to make sure I was playing music that fit the gear.
Awesome comparison and guitar! Thank you
For chugging and some palm mutes I like the nazgul but the black winter has the most character for me and has this grit that's just so mean sounding. That will probably go well in my PRS baritone. Nice.
I am so grateful for yor channel. Been a subscriber for a while and was lookin' into Black Winters for my 7 and here you are.
In other SD shootouts the Nazgul has always been my favorite, but in this one I preferred the sound of the Black Winters. Nazgul sounded a bit too tame, but I never got that impression from other comparison videos.
@Nick That's sort of the impression I got too, although sometimes it does have a nice growl to it. I do like that it seems to respond well to pick articulation though.
I have the Nazgul/Sentient on my RGAIX7-FM. Nazgul adds a bit of drone to B string chords that can be annoying, I can hear it here.. I'm split between trying the Black Winter or just keeping the Parametric EQ's going in Amplitube.
@Nick I thought the issue for me might be the mahogany body. Think I'm just gonna buy a winter and Jupiter and try them all
I have Nazgul in a all mahogany guitar, it took me over a year to learn its sweet spots dialing in. It’s a very fragile window that almost doesn’t exist. But the tones I conjure from it, there’s nothing else that feels like it. Its a one trick pony though and lacks character in any area outside of brutality. I’ve been a fiend for Black Winters, but still wanted something with more character. I just got a Jupiter a month ago. Debating on a new axe for it, or throw it in the all mahogany SCX7. The new guitar I’m looking at is a Dk7q ht. What’s the opinion? Jupiter in a SCX7 mahogany or Dk7q ht alder?
Right there with you, dude. They sounded mean as fook! In person, with my rig, I personally loved the Nazgul. Unreal chugs out of that pickup! Nevertheless, this video was so well done. Props to the dude who made this. Got yourself a new sub, bro.🤘🏻 Very very well done comparison with HQ audio. Fuck yes!
Whenever I'm looking for a pickup demo I always hope this channel has a demo of the it lol. I love how he has it both in and out of the mix
Thanks for making this video. At first, I couldn’t tell any difference, but after a minute or so I was then able to notice the differing qualities. The Nazgul seemed to have the most low end, and the Jupiter the most high end.
Thanks for including the non-mix version and the quick side by side comparisons. I've got a Nazgul Sentient set, I think that my next build might get some Black Winters. The jupiters are too hot and fuzzy.
I love your choice in guitars. I have the KM 7 MK III as well and I really wanted to get a white Solar guitar just like that one. I like the content. Keep up the good work.
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It just confirms my love for the Black Winter set, had the most balanced sound of the three
Thank you so much for this. A well-earned sub, man. 🤘🏻
Thanks, I appreciate it, man. I have other shootouts coming soon!
Metalhead Productions Ordered a set of Black Winters after this.
@@editorrbr2107 you'll love them
Thank you for this video. Recently acquired an LTD EC1000 and I absolutely cannot wait to remove the active EMGs from it. Any suggestions for a guitarist in a slam death band playing in B standard? I keep coming back to the Black Winters and Pegasus.
I prefer the black winters to the pegasus for sure, the pegasus is scooped in a way I don't care for.
This was great thank you! My new Jupiter arrived yesterday. Going into a Jackson JS227DKA. The final piece of the maxed out $200 guitar. 🔥🐐🔥
how'd you like it? looking for something for that same guitar. Stuck between BKP juggs, and rags, or duncans BW or jupiter..
@@Spoofaged I’m looking to upgrade a stock Schecter Diamond Series C-6 with something hot. Did you like them?
The Jupiters don’t get the respect they deserve. I’ve played through Nazgul and Jupiter on personal guitars and it’s not even close. The Jupiters are clearer, punchier and more versatile to me. If you like to chug at all, the Jupiter may be the king of passive chugging pickups. Note clarity in chords under even extremely high gain is crystal clear.
Damn this was a sick demo video!! Gotta say those black winters are unreal. I'm not a mega BM player but I'm experimenting I want a nastier tone with a really dark undertone and the black winters definatly seem to have that grit and nastiness but doesn't sacrifice any clarity. Well impressed. Might have to consider getting a set only if I can find them second hand lol
Cool video and awesome song material! Love that black / death spirit. Now I'm considering some black winter PUs haha
Your tone sounds so bad ass! I like the black winter the best all though they all sound pretty good
thanks, man!
I'm really digging the Jupiter. I palm mute pretty heavy (stupid broken wrist) and I like to pinch a lot, so that high range is perfect. I've been buying cheap guitars and sanding them down, staining, and changing hardware. I have a Dinky 7 that needs some sweet pickups.
I do the same.
Hey question here. Was the nazgul a drop in replacement into the solar guitar? I want to put one in my own solar but unsure if it'll just be a drop in replacement.
It definitely should be, I dropped in a Sentient in the neck and Black Winter in the bridge of my Solar V2.7 without any routing.
How many mV output do each of these have? We can get kohms listed, however we need to do actual measurements of kohms resistance and the millivolts that is output reading from each pickup.
That's not really going to tell you much because that doesn't directly correlate with the output of each pickup. I don't even own all of these anymore either so I wouldn't be able to get that reading.
Hey i just discover your Channel, Great Stuff youre doing, What for absorbers do you have on the Wall? They Look killer
They're really just for looks, but they probably do help to cut down on some sound reflections a bit. I just found them on eBay years ago, I don't think there was a name brand with them or anything.
Great demo.....I have a nazgul on my 6 string Ibanez RG and on my halo custom 7, easily one my bridge favorite pickups especially for soloing ...I have a black winter on my 7 string 27 inch tuned to A standard, sounds great gives me type o negative type tones, but if I want a “modern metal “ tone I have to use an od cause it’s soo thick sounding
Respected sir can you please make a comparison video of Seymour Duncan Jupiter with the seven string version of DiMarzio Titan and DiMarzio Illuminator?
Cant atm. I would have to buy the jupiter again. unfortunately, I gotta sell some gear to fund more gear for the channel
@UCGye7bU28mQ2Ht65VHaWkXg if you had a choice what would you pick sentient or 59
What Skeleton Witch albums use black winters? Digging their newer stuff for sure
Serpents Unleashed, The Apothic Gloom EP and the last album, Devouring Radiant Light.
So I play a lot of music that the artists use EMG’s and Fishman pickups. I’m not trying to route my guitar for actives and I enjoy playing some not metal stuff also. If you had to pick one for an all around with an emphasis on metal, you got a recommendation?
I know you’re not asking me, but I figured I’d answer anyway to try to help you out. Jazz players lately have been using the Black Winter due to its versatility, from what I’ve read. I personally play clean passages as well as heavy shit in my music, and the Black Winter handles both well.
Awesome demo 😎🤘🏻🎸 between these pickups, I like the nazgul pickups the most. I was thinking about getting a set of nazgul pickups for my Ibanez guitar.
Perfectly straight forward demo. Honestly displays these pickups so great.
Love wes hauch but the high end on the jupiter might be too abrasive for what i like dang
Don't know if you're into doing something like this, but I would love to see a video about Mixing stuff together. I always struggle to make things sound like they belong together, tonewise. Especially distorted Guitars + Bass.
I've been thinking about this more and more as my production and the gear I have to produce music has gotten better.
I can’t tell any difference on my phone. They all sound damn good to me
Is there an active mount black winter ? Cant see it on the duncan website
Yeah there's a couple on reverb atm
Which bridge you recommend for slamming death brutal metal? i need recommendations
Depends on what you're plugging it into. Any of these will do the job depending, although, overall, I'd say the black winter, personally, but if you want something tighter and more cutting, the Jupiter will absolutely be what you want.
Do you know what the height the pickups are in this test?
I'm surprised how close they all where but I liked the Nazgul the best.
Which ones would be best on cleans, if you wanted to do some melodic finger picking?
I'd have to go with the nazgul. Oh the three it's the most balanced and it cleans up better.
@@MetalHeadProductions Thanks, friend!
I like the low end oomph of the Nazgul. Worthy of the name. I made the right decision.
How do you change the pickups without moving? Are the shots just that well matched? I didn't see a single jump cut
Im not going through the pain of changing pickups and redoing every single shot, so I film each shot once which is just me playing the music, and I do that after recording all of the in and out of mix audio with each pickup.
Black winter with a fortin grind is perfect.
I have Black winter 6 string version and Nazgul 7 string and they sound way different. This the difference is so slight. Maybe they tweak the 7 string pickups in the same direction to not be muddy. its hard to tell a difference.
I came here to check out the black winter vs nazgul, but I think I might buy a 6505mh instead.
Get an EVH LBX 1 instead.
I still play through an old Peavey Ultra Plus. Meanest amp that I can find.
Is there a difference between the Black winter and the Blackened Black winter or they are the same just different looks?
Honestly no idea. I have a blackened in my ltd and it doesn't seem that there is a difference, tbh
@@MetalHeadProductions Thank you!
sometimes i think when ppl make vids where the caption changes rather quickly displaying which pickups are played that its all the same pickup cause i hear zero difference each time tbh
I gotta ask what monitors you're using cause there are some clear differences
youre not hearing it then because theres clear differences in the three,
I'm really starting to think I need a set of seymour duncans in my schecters they came with fishman moderns which I do like. But im starting to feel that I like thr seymour duncans more. Especially the nazgul sentient combo.
Dude I picked up a low end schecter to play around with and it’s tight but the pups blow all of the dick. Ever. Of all time.
The differences are so subtle but still distinct. I love the nazgul, but the Jupiter and Black Winter also sound amazing. Seymour Duncan is really killing it. I recently picked up my first 7 string a cheap made in China Jackson JS7 just to try it out, and I want to break away from the stock pickups and wake it up a little bit. Still hard to decide. Lol
i have watched this 10 times now for the track, is it just a demo song or an actual song because it's fucking awesome
Oh man thank you, that's one of my originals
I have a bandcamp now where you can listen to and download music I played on the channel
Kinda digging the Jupiter.
What are your thoughts on the Pegasus if you tried it
It has a bit less mids than the nazgul or black winter with an output somewhere in between those two.
nazgul is the best to me, lml
Where can I buy the Black Winter for the lowest price?
Probably used, otherwise new they're a pretty fixed price.
Ive always been super curious about the 8 string Black Winters, but this is probably the closest professional sounding demo to it on here. The sound really cool, may try to get my roommate/guitar player to grab a Winter for the bridge and a sentient for the neck of his 8.
or just go with fishmans, but something different is always cool. we just picked up a Blue Voodoo amp
Congrats on the amp. With the video, I do wish I had demoed the pickup on multiple amps and did better to show lower compressed crunch tones and cleans to really hear the differencees, but I did recently do a video with 7 String pickups, including the black winter, where I did do that. I'd check that out as well to really get an idea of the pickup differences.
Whats the name of the song btw?
I like in the first moment the jupiter.
After a few tones I try to hear the difference between bw and nazgul.
I am not shure but I hear a better palm mute from nazgul. Best at 4.44
Bw - Nazgul - Jupiter
I like the Nazgul more.
...this clip is great...
Thank you for the work!
Ah thanks so much. This is one of my songs called begravning
@@MetalHeadProductions great song - definitiv 100% evil
Have you a cd with your music?
@@RichGuitarWissen not yet, I'm working on that atm. Got the music recorded, we're just working on the vocals now. Should be good.
@@MetalHeadProductions like....I need you to release it already. Please, thank you. Honestly I dug this as an instrumental track.
@@MrVonkliest haha, well, I'll have instrumental stuff up on bandcamp in the coming months once I get my Granophyre and get stuff recorded where I want it.
Normally, I like the Nazguls the best but I think the Black Winter wins your demo
I want a set of Black Winters so bad! That underlying thick nastiness is what I want! Those and a set of Fluence modern pickups. I’ve got the 24 volt adapter for the EMGs I’ve got in my guitars and that helps...I was wondering if ya can do an 18volt mod on the Fishman Fluence Modern pickups and if so how much difference is there? I’ve been looking at them and pictures on line it looks like on the back of them it says 18 volt and all I could find out online is that beyond 18 volt you will fry the pickups. Maybe ya could do a video on the difference of 9volt vs 18volt Fluence Modern? That would be badass! Love your videos man! Awesome stuff!
As far as I know, the fluence are only supposed to run at 9v.
Then I wonder what the picture of the back of the pickup is referring to that I saw? Maybe I’m trippin’. It’s on musicians friend and Sweetwater. Of course they could just have a wrong picture or something
Metalhead Productions yeah it says 9-18 volts
@@tatteredhope911 where I looked on the fishman site and just 9v
@@tatteredhope911 idk, maybe it can
Man they all sound good. Nazgul has the best tone-body, while Jupiter punches your mid-his a bit. Black Winter is a bit darker, bit hotter, bit chunkier than the others. Great vid, thanks
I was here to check out the nazgul set but now I'm in love with the black winter set
Same thing just happened to me. Never heard of Black Winters til now but they sound great.
I prefer the Black Winters, which is great because I just received a set from Sweetwater yesterday to drop in my quilt purple EC-1000. 😁🤘
Very interesting video, thanks for that! The Nazgul sound very well balanced (probably across the board the most recommendable) the Jupiter are very similar but a bit on the harsher side, I don't like them as much...the Black Winter on the other hand...damn, they are completely different from those two with quite a unique flavour.
The Black Winter are my personal favorites but the Nazgul are probably the jack-of-all-trades.
Very nice playing, will order the BLACK WINTER :)
I'm not sure what I'll order for the neck for my Ibanez rgrt421.
Thanks for the comparison.
I've always been a fan of the sentient
the whole set imo. I prefer the black winters to the nazgul/sentient, alpha/omega, bkp aftermaths, bkp juggernauts, Dimarzio imperiums, and Duncan Jupiter that I've had. the black winter neck gets stratty almost split (on an Aristides 070)
Should I grab a Black Winter to play some Death? I’m trying to create a general Chuck Schuldiner tone
Is thy have active Jupiter ?
No all passive
That jupiter is super crunchy
Its tight which is good for fast single note licks
What’s tuning you playing in ???
Dude! Where did you get that t-shirt???
Seymour duncan has them for sale, got it on their site. Its a rad shirt.
Jupiter is win for me at this test. Thank you wery much!
Hi again. I'm that guy who wrote that short book length comment on your AHB-2 Blackout vs. EMG 81 video. :)
Thanks again for all the trouble you go to to make these. You have really great tone and mixes in your videos.
In a mix with that much saturation it's really difficult for me to tell the difference between the three. I imagine they all feel very different in the hands, though.
If you haven't posted one already, I'd love to hear a Dino Cazares Retribution signature video. That seems like a really bright, articulate 7 string pickup.
The Retribution will probably be the next pickup I try in my Jackson 7 string Floyded Soloist or my 7 string BC Rich Outlaw (somewhat rare older 90s-00s tune-o-matic 7 string model).
There are a lot of Duncans I would love to see in a 7 string version. I've always been a Full Shred fan and recently a Parallel Axis convert.
Brandon Ellis seems to have brought the PATBs back with his taste for them. I don't think those are made in 7 string versions but the custom shop can probably hook you up with anything. His idea for reversible coils is cool too. I often put bridge pickups in the neck and flip them so the logo is upside down.
I would also like to see more passive mount 7 string humbuckers used with a 7 string sized Triple Shot mounting ring for more wiring options, but last I checked with SD they will not build this for you. This is probably because of the rarity of 7 string guitars with pickup rings.
I guess it's for this reason that I tend to prefer active pickups with 7 strings in low tunings, especially for master/tone only guitars.
If you can't use four conductor passive pickups to their full potential in a 7 string guitar because you don't have enough holes in the body for all the required toggle switches and push/pull pots, then four conductor passive pickups seem like a waste to me.
It seems that the vintage Strat world with all of its many wiring mods hasn't really meshed well with the 7 string world. Even 7 strings with single coil pickups seem somewhat rare. I hope this changes.
I'm also hoping for multiscale 8 string Floyd Rose bridges so I can use a high A string instead of a low F# (F#1 competes with the kick and bass too much for my taste). I doubt that will happen any time soon either.
These days, I go for mid output pickups (12k-14k) for clarity, with the output boosted by the pedal and preamp, but it's nice to hear what's going on in the higher output offerings.
Thanks again for your work sir. Much respect to you.
Well I'm glad some people are still finding these wild videos helpful. Would definitely do some things different and better today, but that's ok.
It would be awesome to see those pickup rings for 7 string, pretty easy for them to do too.
@@MetalHeadProductions I think the Triple Shots are made overseas and imported and not made in house at SD. This is why the custom shop won't do them in 7 string width. I have noticed the screw locations with the Triple Shots often do not line up cleanly with every guitar--even metric based imported stuff like Epis.
For passive guitars, I wire each pickup to its own volume knob. I put a Shadow killpot on the bridge and a phase switch on the neck. Using all this with the Triple Shots I have pretty close to every wiring option I would want in a V/V/T guitar. Some passive pickups like the Duncan Customs really respond well to split and parallel tones. Others like the Gibson 498t/500t/Dirty Fingers don't seem to change much.
All this stuff can take a long time to wire up and it's a bit overkill live but in the studio the flexibility is nice. Live I tend to prefer active pickups and master volume only or V/T for simplicity.
Let's just enjoy the massiveness of the palm mutes. Either three pickups does the job \m/
I have a black winter in one of my guitars, a guitar with a nazgul is in the mail.... can't wait to test 'em on my fireball with 4 V30's
the high mid frequency (of wht does exist) in the BW just hass that weird creepy resonance on cording and fast picking which just gives it that pushed sound..........
the nazgul and jupiter.... have a very different feel in clarity and output but seem to have a very similar tone curve for fast picking.....
I'm sorry, I'm not sure what your question is
Black Winter: Thicker, less bitey top end. Nazgul: slightly less boomy, bit more highs. Jupiter: most mids and bitey highs.
I can hear the differences clearly as I was previously sold on the Nazgul until now. These Saturn+ have a very clear high end sizzle that's typically what I'm searching for. I already have the Gul, Pegasus set and now will have to own both Vinter and Saturn's.
Black Winters sound the best to my ears.
It all kinda becomes sixes once the OD is on. There's still some difference, but it's so minute that doesn't really matter.
Did you do any post processing in the mix or on the solo? Was there any preprogrammed filtering on the Twonotes?
Nah, didn't even use a high low pass filter the mix or solo stuff.
I know it has nothing to do with music but that Black winter shirt is sick 😎🔥
Oh yeah, I absolutely love this shirt
Gran treball!!
I've buyed the nazgul/sentinent for my 6 string les paul a few days ago. I hope they sound like this! Nice Comparisation!
nice choice
my friend put Nazgul sentinent set on his LP and sounds killer
@Felix How do you think they sound now?
Repping Solar hell yeah
I love the Black Winter. Its WAY hotter than the Nazgul and this is really noticeable on clean channels. Its essentially impossible to get a smooth clean tone out of them because of how hot they are, which is what i wanted lol i paired my BW bridge with jazz neck so i could still do smooth clean tones without swapping guitars. The middle position sounds like the hottest p90 ever, its great.
Goddamn it I was convinced on the nazgul now idk nazgul or black winter
Black winter will be higher output and more low-end, nazgul is tighter and more modern. Just depends on what you need.
Metalhead Productions I’m probably just going to go with the cheaper of the two because they both sound so good thanks for the feedback btw that definitely earned a sub!!
@@prestondillon2976 \m/ \m/
Witch is better for Brutal Death Metal?
depends on your amp, but probably the black winter will be best for that nasty brutal sound
@@MetalHeadProductions I sold my Amp Line 6 spider valve mk2 so im now only on plugins like Bias FX and similar.
I regret i sold that Amp now but plugins have better sound then that amp in my opinion.
I use Jacskon JS32 Rhoads Satin Grey, will that pickup fit that guitar good, i mean is it worth on that guitar?
Thanks for your quick reply earlyer.
@@DugiDevetCarabolium if you're not happy with what you're getting from the guitar, yeah, by all means, upgrade the pickup. You can transfer it to another guitar later.
Also, I'd recommend using the neural dsp plugins. Best sounding and feeling plugins out there.
All three pickups are great but the Black Winters to me just have a certain nasty characteristic to them that I love. I think you did a great job here of showing that. Wes' Jupiter pickup is very impressive too though, that one's really growing on me lately. Good job on the video dude, cheers.
I cant tell the difference. The only thing I can tell is theblack winter has a touch more highs. It's a little crisper
Hey man! What pickups listed below do you personally prefer?
1)Keith Merrow Fishman fluence
2)Wes Hauch Jupiter
3)Devin Townsend Fishman fluence
4)Alpha / Omega SD
5)EMTY blackouts
6)Black Winter
7)Willie Adler Fishman
I would really like to know which one do you like the most! I really love your demos!
personally, for my music a I prefer the keith merrow fishmans. not too bright, not too dark, and it's medium output pairs well with an OD/boost into an amp for high gain without getting over saturated or shrill.
it all depends on what you're going for, and if you're using 6 or 7. like for 6 string I'd probably lean more Devin Townsend fishman. Super tight and super hot, dont even need an OD really, and because of the tightness are better for lower tunings.
everything listed are great pickups, my least favorite probably being the blackouts.
Im glad you like the channel, thanks for the support!
May I ask what's your favorite pickups for 6-string? Btw I am looking for Keith's tone but i'm afraid it wouldn't sound as good in my guitar. I wonder which one sounds MASSIVE on 6-string is it KM's or DT's?
@@philipjohnii9593 the KM and DT set sound way different. the KM set seem to have been built around the idea that you're going to boost your amp with and OD to make it tighter. Medium output, fairly balanced pickup with a slight bump around 200hz for some grunt in palm mutes.
the DT set is really, really high output, super tight low end, bit of a mid scoop, and a lot of top end. As far as an active sound, its something I really like.
Where do the Dimebuckers sit in comparison of all those?
Sounds so crisp and clear out of my phone speaker. Love audio gear RUclips reviews. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
With the low mids in the gain a p90 would sound brutal lol
I like the presence that the jupiter has in the mids, not too much like a lundgren
From my experience the nazgul has a harder time cutting through the mix vs the black winter.
Not enough difference to go wrong with any of these pickups. A mild amp tweak, and you can get them to sound almost identical. That being said. I’ll probably try the black winters next. Already laying waste with my nazgul in my LP Custom. I prefer actives. But I have plenty of them in my ESP’s and LTD’s. Plus I hate changing out everything on Gibson’s. With killer passives out there, no need. But given the choice between active and passive, active all day 🤘🏻
Eh, it's more about how they got the amp and pair with a boost. The Jupiter is super hot and can get harsh with a boost, the black winter has this ugly nastiness in the lower frequencies that shows up no matter what amp I use, I even hear it in recordings of bands that use it, although that's part of it's charm, and the naz has that low mid thing for palm mutes that allow it to sound full without the extra muddy low end.
@@MetalHeadProductions I moved my nazguls to another guitar and dropped EMG’s in my Gibson Les Paul custom (cork sniffers nightmare 😂) . That thing is a death hammer now. The nazguls actually sound better in my Ibanez with a longer scale length. Which makes sense as I believe they were designed for 7 and 8 string instruments. I’m dropping the black winter (bridge only) into my schecter E1-FRS. It has a Sustainiac in the neck, but I’m contemplating ripping it out. It’s got an SD parallel axis distortion in it now. But just too much bottom end. Might sound better in a thinner sounding guitar. But there are very few SD pups I don’t care for in general. Not a huge fan of the parallel axis distortion at this point. The stock apocalypse (schecter brand) sounded more balanced. But mostly I rock EMG’s. Everybody jumped ship when the Fishmans came out. I thought they were ok. But still liked EMG’s better. All the guitar companies started loading their guitars with the Fishman pups. Now I see a lot going back to the tried and tested Emgs. EMG’s get hella hate. But I love them. I have 8 guitars with EMG’s. And none of them have the same sets. Us old metal heads use what works!🤘🏻👊🏻 thanks for taking time to reply. And if you have any thoughts on the SD parallel axis distortion, I’d like to hear it? Just to confirm I’m not crazy.😂
@@Wargasm644 hey whatever works for you. I do like a couple of EMGs myself, and yeah, the naz were designed around longer scale lengths and drop tunings so I find they work better for that.
Haven't tried that distortion so I really can't say.
Sludge riff master right here eh!
I have a Black Winter in my strat in HSS with single coils. And you know what? It sounds f&@kin’ awesome. People think this pickup is a one trick pony and only does death and black metal, but plays well with moderately wound single coils and does any blues/rock/metal genre really well. Cleans up well and sounds crystal clear. In my opinion, this is the best full size bridge pickup Duncan makes, bar none. I’ve never heard anyone say these sound like shit, because the only way they could was if you sucked as a player.
They are just that good.
Dude youre awesome for tryngto help but you cant do it mixedlike that. Sounds like the same pickup the whole time almost. But hey, I didn teven know there was a Jupiter so I got that out of it. Thanks.
Never heard of the Jupiter pickup, wouldnt the Invader be more of a top 3 flashship metal pickup along with the Black Winter and Nazgul ? The Invader seems to have the highest outputs out of all of these and I hear more people talking about them than this Jupiter pickup.
Invaders aren't really modern metal. They're hot but they're super muddy and just not used a lot anymore. The Jupiter is a newer pickup, although it's been out a while now. Much more of a modern pickup.
@@MetalHeadProductions I see, I really like the Black Winter, Nazgul and the Dimarzio Super Distortion so If It Is anything like those pickups I will try it out :)
Since they are not extremely far from the Nazgul and Black Winter after listening to them some more, they should fit pretty good with my Sentient neck pickup I already got, right ?
@@mathias6423 yeah should pair well for sure
Why do they sound same to me?😅
I mean, they are all going into the same amp on the same settings. What are you listening through, though?
7:23 till the end is where one can easily tell the difference. Black Winters are punchier through the middle and hottest. Nazgul has some thick lower mids and good clarity. Jupiter is hotter than Nazgul with amazing note clarity and high end punch, but not as hot or mid heavy as the Black Winter. All sound good so it will just be a question of which suits your personal preference. Great Vid!
Man, these are so close you can EQ post and be done, unless you just have to try them all.
Nah, not really. The black winter's have way more of a nasty low-end,and the jupiters are so cutting and have so much top end. Not to mention the output difference really changes how these hit your amp and you can't change that in post
@@MetalHeadProductions Thanks man.