@@lunarvvolf9606 Typically, you want to become informed before you formulate an opinion. Not the other way around... Swing and a miss. Used market analysis will be in another video 👍 if you don't value used, that's cool. But other people might for a variety of reasons. Maybe think about that and try to stay humble 😊
That's all I was hoping for... You watched the video and, as you said - this was a new GPU guide. (Gaming performance specifically, as the title suggests) I think the issue is that you came in super aggressive and with unfounded prejudgement. I dont think anyone can change your assumptions, as you firmly grounded yourself before becoming educated. But I'm (personally) pro used, anti mining. They are mutually exclusive. And if your values are different, that's cool too. It really is the beauty of independent thought! If you want to know more about my opinion on that, the good news is, I've made plenty of videos. But given how this has gone.... 🙈 Intel Arc is a valid question and I really do appreciate it. Honestly, time and data. But I'll be looking to include it. The only thing I have ever asked down here is to be civil. Remember you're interacting with real people, not just me, but the entire community. I encourage any criticism and feedback, but if you're not being pleasant or a decent human being, ill have to step in... you caught me on a good day 😉
@@hubcap4KHDRgameplay Pressure washed cards, a whole batch, were sold after being already misused and not stored properly. This whole talking was pure idiocy from start to finish. A very good example for the “outrage pony” - talking, making videos for clicks, without thinking first. Ask yourself, why should somebody send quite “young” GPUs to a (costly) repair shop using their own money and not RMA them? As the buyers already new, the warranty was voided. Even the initial (first) videomaker (KrisFix) finally did a bit of thinking and asked the customers. The cards came from one seller, all of them, one single batch. They came from a mining farm and were too clean for used. The repair shop concluded that they were pressure(!) washed and neither handled nore stored correctly. The batch was sold in EU/Germany, ta ta -> Outrage without reason. So even the Tech Jesus ;-) Steve will soon talk about it, if not already happened. The major outlets already corrected the articles, videos or did new ones. Some like PCworld even talked about the problem, that the “tech reviewers” created a problem out of thin air without rethinking first, clicks/views > research/thinking.
Despite all these recommendations from various tech channels, RTX3060 still out-selling 6700XT and 6600/XT. Never underestimate the power of uninformed gamers and Nvidia fanboys.
Maybe the market is not solely dictated by gamers, and maybe you should stop assuming the choice is made because of misinformation, and not the obvious merits of Nvidia cards in other applications.
Not a fanboy. have owned a dozen radeon cards. I think the 3060 is a crap product. But AMD hasn't done themselves any favors regarding their software/card stability. The drivers are crap, folks. It's a shame.
@@analogicparadox how many fortnite gamers use their gaming pcs for something else that can leverage their gpu power? 10%? 20%? Even with 20% of gamers using their gpus for something other than gaming (which is probably more like 10%), for Nvidia to sell at a 10:1 ration vs AMD is literally because of misinformed buyers.
Too bad all the AMD cards are exploding on impact right now. Currently the 6700XT (specifically but not limited to), is now in the spotlight for huge numbers of them imploding because the die is " Cracking"....AMD says they'll get back to us....AMD is a SH^^ Show at the moment.....Hard Pass !
@@truthfilterforyoutube8218 maybe you should do some more research. The cause of that had nothing to do with AMD. How many of your AMD gpus failed? Stop spreading misinformation. If you want you pay twice as much for the same performance, keep on keeping on.
@@truthfilterforyoutube8218 Nah, turns out it was a group of used cards from a single seller who washed them all with a water hose and probably got moisture in them.
@@truthfilterforyoutube8218 mining VGA ?? remember at this time there are still many miners out there. >>never buy a used VGA if you want it to last and have a warranty ~
Snagged a 6750XT for $380 during the holiday season... Always feels good to see how worth it it was hehe EDIT: The charts are kind of hard to follow with the shot cutting between you and the charts often. Maybe look into having a smaller frame near the chart with you in it, which would let you highlight/zoom in on items of interest while not taking the information away from the viewer.
@cptwhite Glad you agree. The current format spends a little too much time on a full shot of him talking, which is time that could be spent listening to him and applying that info to the data. I don't mean to knock down the video because it's SO close to being exactly what people need.
Agree. Great video. I like how it's data rich. He focuses on the numbers. No waffling. Just a bit quick with showing and then hiding the graphs. Just as I look at wherever RX 6700 XT is and then look with a Nvidia RTX 3060 is and then start to look around on the graph it's gone. I wonder if it's possible for him to do a graphic where he highlights the two cards on the graph and then the next page is the two cards with this new graphic showing MSRP vs cheapest price new, etc I'm focusing on these two as he's making his point. Without the flipping around into different images of a guy with some cash in his hand and then some other image and then some other image. There's a lot to take in and he talks quickly but I do like it but it can be a little bit hard to read the graph while he's talking and then the picture changes. Reading a page of a graph takes longer than one or two seconds. I'm wondering if he has a website where he has all the data and we can type in our budget and we can select new all used and the resolution and we can see what are the best cards. Or a card hierarchy chart like Tom's Hardware used to do 5 10 years ago. They had a great top to bottom chart with the most highest performing cards at the top lowest at the bottom and each row would contain one or a few cards that had similar performance ability. This way you could quickly look at your card even if it was a few years old and see just how much better a newer card might be in terms of performance.
In many places the 6650xt is actually the one comparable to th 3060 because of weird pricing stuff. In Germany (when I bought mine) the cheapest available prices were: 350€ for the 3060, 320€ for the 6550xt and 430€ for the 6700xt, which was closer to the 3060ti at around 440€. All prices exclusively for brand new products from reputable retailers.
I believe you’ve done a major community service here as many Techtubers only look at RRP/MSRP when listing their GPU performance charts …… and for many this isn’t reliable as real world pricing dictates the tier of GPU that many will chose….. or hold out or save more for something offering better performance / value. Great work and love the detailed information in your charts and showing the combination of GPU RRP / MSRP vs Real World Pricing with included performance at various resolutions 💪🥰😇👍
I went the used gpu route and got a 3080 for $550 in September. I took my time and researched and the card was in great shape and allowed me to get into 1440p without having to spend over $700 for a new 3080. I'm gonna stick with this card for a while and skip these new gen cards
@@Vlad_Shv honestly not that bad for a new 3080. Of course, higher than it should be, but relative to the other price, it’s not that bad. I’m thinking about going for the 4070ti in a couple months for around 800 usd. It’s high too, but it’s right in between the 3090 and 3090ti performance in most gaming cases, but both of those will run you 1500-2000. I think basically all cards are priced pretty dang high right now, so 800 for something not too much worse than a 3090ti isn’t bad. And, with the cards just releasing and staying around msrp with what seems to be good stock, hoping the price will drop a little bit. (Also I probably would be going with a cheaper card, but I’m upgrading from a 2070S, so buying something like the 3060ti for example, wouldn’t be worth it)
I feel like price per frame is a good meteric, but another factor is the frame rate you get above the frame rate you are targeting. Few people buy every generation GPU. So if yo get a 4090 and it delivers 4k 60+fps for the next 5-7 years, then it has well and truely outperformed the price per performance of 3 consecutive 4060/5060/6060rtx purchases. Plus, inflation will drive up the future purchase price of the future purchases.
Thank you for investing the time into this! A really incredible resource for us budget pc gamers. Funny thing is, I came to the same conclusion on a $500 budget, preferring the RX 6800
Well: While this is interesting (and informative), there is also one additional metric that people tend to forget. Power consumption. Say you live in the EU. You have a 230V outlet in your wall. And you have a main breaker of 32 Amps in most relatively new houses. That is a grand total of 7360 Watts of continuous power draw. If you install a smaller AC that has a power draw of 2-3 kWh, and then a fridge, some lamps, all you will have left for whatever other equipments you need is the scraps. In fact, where I live it is customary to put a 16A breaker per room, and that will have to supply your AC, the computer, the lamps, and all the screens you use. So generally I tend to think in terms of power budget for the PC too. Adding in more electrical lines costs an arm and a leg. It can be around the ballpark of an average yearly salary for the paperwork, the boxes and the installment. And this is where it gets annoying. Remember the olden days? When we had cards like the GeForce 1050Ti? The thing is: around 6-8 years ago the basic entry level card required no external power, and could work well from the PCIe power delivery (75W total card power for the 50 series). Then we had the 60 series, and they used around 120W and had a 6 pin connector. The 70 series was where power draw started to ramp up with the introduction of 8 pin connectors. What do we have today? The 3050 uses 135 Watts of power. Sure, it is as powerful, as the 2060 (that is as powerful as the 1070, AND has the same power draw), but I do not see power draw going down. In fact, I see the total power draw going way up. To sum it up: Another interesting graph is performance for power consumption. When comparing an NVidia graphics card to an AMD one, we should also compare the ones that use the same amount of power. So the 3050 will go against the RX 6600 non-xt, as that is the card with the closest power draw. Do not forget: electricity also costs money. And power plants take a long time to build...
I bought a 6750Xt about 6 months ago along with a 5800X3d for about £1000 . It's a great system and will last me years. I don't need all the bells and whistles as we say in the UK. I don't need ray tracing and I wont pay Ngreedys prices to do so
i got a used 3090 with proof of purchase from best buy for $700. comes down to about $6.80/frame based off the number used in this video. I’m really happy with it and don’t plan on upgrading any time soon. paired it with a 5800x3d because I had been waiting to complete my build so my motherboard isn’t made for zen 4
I found 6650 XT's for under $300, and got those, because the 6600xt was higher priced, (than the 6650) and the 6700's were out of my price range, at the time
Noice, if you found 6650xt for below 300 its worth it, but amd card pricing in our country is so bad, i also tried to buy one 6650xt but i had to buy rtx card because the price was similar or little bit higher at that time.
This is my story too. Got 6650xt for around 280USD(7820CZK w 21perc VAT), while 6600xt was more expensive. Seems 6600xt were simply old stock and new gpus came at discounts, retailers simply hoping old stock would sell to some guys one day. I considered also 6600 (but it was like 250USD, 6700 10G for 340USD, 6700xt was more expensive of fps per dollar over 6650xt). MSI MECH 6650xt OC is bad default settings on fans, voltage and frequency but quite easy and entertaining to set it make it cool and quiet. Dont ignore your monitor refresh rate limits too, setting proper max fps can keep gpu efficient and silent. (I have just 1440p 75Hz monitor, its enough for World of warships gaming and difference between unlimited fps and game devs optimal 75fps is 100W savings with fps cap)
@@silgrimmarak8699 If I had been paid my bonus just 3 days earlier, i could have gotten those 6650xt's for @ $265. the 6600 was 280 and the 6600xt was 320. Sorry to hear they are so expensive where you live
@@gstormcz We upgraded monitors last year. Pixio 1080p with 144 refresh rate. I looked at Tom's hardware tier list for graphics. I knew i didn't want a 6500 or 3050. Both were about the same as my 580. Started off looking at 6600xt's, but noticed the 6650xt's were 30-50 lower. If my bonus had come the week before (like Friday, I got it Wednesday )I saw a sale on the 6650xt for @$265
@@jonathanwessner3456 damn 265 is deal, but i had to buy rtx 3060 ti for 390$ becuz amd cards are still expensive here, rx 6600 is priced so bad here like 280$ and rtx 3050 is also priced so bad starting at 280$, and rx 6650xt is also priced so bad its over 375$ which makes 3060 ti a better value, rx 6700xt was priced good only 50$-60$ more than 3060 ti, but i had to buy rtx bcuz i dont want to upgrade or spend for new psu yet,
Anything over $750usd for a graphics card is a bad value and just plain insane, except for those running a business using a graphics card. If you continue to purchase cards at these artificially inflated prices, you will only perpetuate this madness.
I did a sidegrade to 3060Ti for two reasons. One, random card driver issues. Though I will say the 6700XT was SUPREMELY better than the 5700XT! Overall very good experience, especially at around $340, what I paid for it late last year. Second, occasionally booting to a black screen, still having weird game issues on specific stuff (Ryujinx will either sing or cry with an AMD graphics card and you can't tell which) and still overall being much more happy with video capture with Nvidia over Radeon, I can take winning some fights and losing some. Plus the 3060Ti was $300 plus shipping used at the time I decided to switch, so easy exchange imo. Preferring DLSS over FSR is merely a technicality, DO NOT PAY TAXES FOR BAD FRAME HACKS. Look at rasterized performance, and if the Radeon is significantly cheaper than the Nvidia card you're looking at with equal or better performance, you will be much much happier with that. Even on the 40-series Nvidia cards, raytracing is still dogshit and tanks your framerate, unless you use the "features" of frame hacks like DLSS and fake frame insertion, at which point... why are we making the quality go down to sorta kinda make the quality go up in ways? Stupid. Just buy on rasterized performance and card stability and pricing. RTX features are trying to sell you something that sucks anyways.
interesting, may i ask, have u used FSR with the 6700XT and DLSS with the 3060TI ? i have used both FSR and DLSS and i think DLSS looks *way* better in person and i can actually play with it unlike shimmery FSR. i wonder if u feel the or not.
@@gametime4316 they both look bad, I wouldn't call DLSS "good" when it still hurts the image quality in everything but still shots. It's not worth any extra money, especially when AMD gives it away for free and it's even remotely comparable to the "premium" you're paying.
It's even worse in Europe.. I bought a Sapphire RX 6700 Pulse at 375 euros thanks to a good deal (6700 normally at around 380-400 euros for the cheapest models) and the RX 6700XT is at 450+ euros (for the cheapest models too, and the price went down just recently).. OG RTX 3060Ti at 520+ euros. Those prices are crazy..
Great video and data, one thing I would recommend is cutting out the real world pricing on the chart. The only 2 things that "matter" would be ppf and the fps, the price can be extrapolated from it and makes it a bit harder to read. What we are looking for is a highest white and lowest pink where actual prices should just be listed by the card so we can scan looking for what fits out budget. Like I said though, great video.
after looking at graphics cards recently, i noticed alot of cards that hiked up during covid due to many reasons + crypto mining, have stayed relatively high. however the LHR versions that were released after came back down close to or below RRP. I think once we get past the last couple of generations, we will see GPU's back to normality, which is what you can see from the high end cards. yea they are still pricey but geez, paying 2K for a 3080 last year was insanity. I set myself a budget of £500 and picked up a 3070 this week for my studio workstation
If you wanted to risk it for the biscuit and by used on the marketplaces then you can get a 3080 for £300, a 3080 ti for £350 and 3090's for £400-£500... Ofc there's the risk of getting scammed but used market for Nvidia is where you go for budget GPU prices.
I dont think it will change any time soon. because now the 4000 series is over 1k euros. And most people will need 12gb gpu and more. Yes you can buy some 12gb GPUs with poor performance. And im sure when i can buy 4090 that will look shit for our needs. And even if they overdo GPU-s than probably PCU processors prices will skyrocket. So just buy what you are ok right now.
Searched for this specifically and found your video - EXCELLENT overall, love the use of real world data, not bogus MSRPs - bravo to you and anyone who worked on this, subbed!
Currently building a PC for a 12yr old, all they want is RTX, doesn't matter what you say to them, don't know what specific card, just something with "RTX"...
Should show 1% lows instead of avg, like the 4090 has high $ per frame but there is something to be said for keeping frames above 60fps at 4k in most situations
Given that you can still game at 1080p very decently with a GTX 970 there are a lot of options for those who are heavily budget restricted. Even with older hardware one has to be careful, the iconic 1080 ti is quite expensive here in Denmark compared to some much newer and better GPUs. All depending on your wallet. As for the video, correct, the 6700 xt is a great card for 1440p and will last you a while. You might get a 6750 xt for around the same price if you dig deep.
@@zexxxy_ow2 could be a CPU bottleneck. If it happens on 1080p and it seems like a downgrade then I suggest looking into that. What are your current specs?
@@spackseries4400 MOBO - X570 AORUS MASTER GPU - Geforce RTX 3070 Ti VENTUS 3x 8G OC CPU - AMD RYZEN 9 3900x 12-core processor RAM - 63.95 gb (base clock on the cpu is 3.8 - tried kicking it up to 4.1 and it helps a little but not at all the performance I expect from a 700$ card.) The 1060 holds 250 fps at low settings 1080p it drops to around 200 or a little less when I get into large teamfights with heavy visual clutter. (Overwatch 2) The 3070 can hold 300 but drops when things get crazy, furthest I saw it drop once was 190. Now I know 190 doesnt sound bad but when this drop occurs the screen loses all smoothness, my aiming lags like its on 60hz. So its not a stable 190 at all. Thanks for any help, really appreciate it.
Been shopping for a new card and this video helped me massively dial in my choices based on my budget. Nice one! Went for the RX 6650XT and getting Starfield bundle in for free which is really great saving.
That card is not $480. MSRP means almost nothing, it's just a number manufacturers put as the recommended price for retailers, but the actual value comes from the market itself. It's more like $300-$350 now.
Where did you get the $900 MSRP for the 3080 12GB model? It was released without a MSRP or a NVidia vanilla version? When it was released it was during the worst card buying timeframe you could imagine.
Really appreciate the real world recommendations! Is there any chance you could make a video like this for cpus also including current motherboard prices?
Here's a really resumed explanation of the CPUs rn. If you're looking for a top tier CPU, Intel's are more expensive, still better for gaming (although amd's catching up), but the raptor lake motherboards support DDR4 ram unlike am5 motherboards who only support DDR5, as you may know, intel's 13th gen was the last raptor lake cpu, so you're gonna have to upgrade your motherboard once the 14th gen comes out if you wanna upgrade whereas the am5 will likely still be the next amd gen architecture, if you're not looking for a top tier it really depends on what you want so can't really help you with that
@@Andreluis2006_ I'm more interested in the low end right now. I was looking at a 5600 and a b550 board so I could reuse my ddr4 memory and I'm not really concerned about am4 not being updated since I don't upgrade very often anyway. The intel alternative would be 12400f and a matching motherboard but those are a bit more expensive where I live and and 11400f for a similar price to amd wouldn't really be any better. I'm hoping that after the holidays and the 7000 series price cuts the 5000 series and b550 mobos will get some discounts but idk.
Man this was the best video I've seen in a while when it comes to explaining the important details im running an Nvidia GTX 1080 8GB FE with an I-5 12600k and 32GB DDR5 6000mhz and I want to upgrade what would be a good solid upgrade to last me a while that would keep my recordings and streams looking good and stable whatever i can sell the 1080 for will pretty much be my cash for a new gpu.
We all should go buy an Arc just to send a message to these pricings. I mean, 1660super are being sold at 300-350 dollars, when I bought that card at about 140 USD 2-3 years ago, it just doesn't make any sense. How it comes that CPU's prices are so stable (they even depreciate) with every launch and GPU's just sky rocket whenever a new line comes out? Take Ryzen as an example: Ryzen 1600 launching price range is the same as 2600, 3600, 5600 and even 7600 is about there, despite it's been more years, inflation, pandemic and war. And you can say the same for every other part of the PC.
One thing to note is that Nvidia has a bigger driver overhead, so if you have a less powerful CPU the AMD GPU will always pull ahead. Heck, a 5700XT can even beat a 3070 if you pair them with an old pentium
I've been with a GTX 1080Ti (EVGA FTW3 - Paired w/ 8700K@ 4.8GHZ) since 2017' and the performance falls somewhere between the RTX 3060 - 3060Ti - So STILL good for most AAA games at 1440p/60FPS+ - In Destiny 2 for example I have everything maxed out at 1440p w/ frame rates averaging ~120FPS.
Been rocking the 1080Ti for years as well it’s an absolute monster and has stood the test of time. I’m looking to upgrade and struggling to decide whether 4070Ti is the right choice considering VRAM. It’s within my budget but 7900XT is also appealing since I’m not super interested in RT and such. The market is so weird right now
Hello, nice info you got there. Currently, I am using RX580 right now and had been looking for an upgrade for a while. I know that most of the time, amd card has better price to performance ratio compared to nvdia. But from all I heard around, is that for single pc streaming(play+livestream+recording) , nvenc is still better compared to amd gpu. I had been trying to find the equivalent of nvenc on amd card, but so far most of the information I got is telling me that nvenc is still better. Could you enlighten me on this topic?
well I mean the rx580 is pretty monstrous for a budget card and with good optimizations you can easily get 80-144 consistent fps in almost every game available on low-med settings The only real gpu upgrade you could make is either to a 6800xt/6700xt or a 3060 so you can run 144fps consistently at med-high settings
@@ohhkennny766 I was talking about streaming tho. The gpu has no problem playing. The problem came when I play+stream+record. And I already got 3070ti, as per stated from original comment. Amd has nothing equivalent to nvenc. So AMD is clearly not the option, thx for your reply tho.
So Im wanting nothing more then 1440p and my monitor is 175hz which gpu should I go after I’m currently using a 2070 super and ryzen 7 3700x cpu ..I’m about to upgrade them both
Very informative video and to add on this, For Budget gamers who don't mind buying used try and hunt a good Ebay deal for used RTX 2000 series, all the hype on RTX 3000 and RX6000 series made them drop in price, I got lucky and got an RTX 2080 for 230$ as an upgrade from my GTX 1070, It is a Beast! , I am a 1080p gamer and the 2080 runs everything at ultra above 60fps and for competitive games go up to over 200fps easy, and I can do raytracing on games like cyberpunk with dlss quality and the game still does 60fps with ultra ray tracing and looks amazing, so keep watch instead of buying an RX6600 or 6600XT for 250$ buy an RTX 2000 series instead and get better performance per dollar and better ray tracing if you want it.
Don't forget local listings like Offerup and Craigslist. That helps bring the cost down, because sellers don't have to factor in shipping and ebay fees. I was able to purchase an RTX 2070 Super for $160, and later on, I also scored an RX 5700XT for $125. Both AIB cards, and from Offerup.
@@CyberClu I agree. And I believe buyers still have to pay sales tax though ebay? Anyway, as long as you know what you're doing then you can definitely get a good buy off OfferUp. I got a sapphire 6800xt for $450 which seemed brand new as it still had the official stickers to seal the box. Been using it for a month with no issues. But honestly it was sketchy and did seem like a scam. My theory is that it wasn't brand new. It's working though so I got a good buy
@@CyberCluthat's awesome those are some good deals, people seem to have forgotten that the older flagship gpus are now budget beasts that crunch frames at a lower cost than the new budget stuff around.
The RX 6700 XT also supports ray tracing, but won't work with DLSS since it's an Nvidia technology. However, it will work with FSR which although similar is less used in development
Just bought a powercolor 6750 xt red devil at about 370 usd here in indonesia. Making a new rig cheap rig for about 1000$ with 5700x and 32gig ram. Im happy as it is far more powerful than my old notebook with 1660 ti thats just died.
I just got a 3060ti in my new built, will wait for the prices going down on the 7900xt or a 4070ti/4080 so in the meantime I will saving up for one of them
same, but I recently after 3-4 years of 1440p upgraded to 4K LG C2 and need at least 4070Ti, but it just lacks VRAM. Sadly AMD has no competition in that market, as at those prices I aso expect to use Ray Tracing and 7900XT offers worse RT perforamance at same price. I guess I will just wait for Super series or 5000 series next year for better prices and just deal with playing without RT at 4K and Medium/High settings and DLSS Quality.
Great presentation of the actual market prices. Shame the situation in Europe right now is that our prices are basically double the prices you see in the US. No cards below MSRP this side of the Atlantic.
You should do a laptop GPU to desktop GPU performance comparison chart. (Based on laptop models as some may have better cooling). And then we'll figure out the prices. This would be good for people who don't stay at home frequently. College kids, people that travel or work a lot on the road.
The 3060 does very well in today’s market for the money. I got a deal on mine and I wouldn’t have bothered with anything else. It’s a GPU that does it job and I’ve never experienced anything under 60 FPS, never experienced any crashes or anything of the sort. I don’t see why everyone in the comments have such a negative bias toward these cards. Nvidia does it’s job and always has for me. I’m sure AMD does it’s job too. They are all good cards beyond what is NEEDED for todays games. Silly arguments in these comments. Absolute lunacy.
I have a question abuot "The Data" posted. How man total games did you use for all those numbers? Is it 10 games or 30 games? Which games are they? Curious to find out.
Those numbers are the MSRP. On the chart at 1:19, the blue bar represents 'Lowest Price for New' which he has the 6700 XT at $359.99. I got a PowerColor Fighter 6700XT for $369.99.
Ok ok, all fine and good, and I really do appreciate that sort of content, thx for that but... could you do a video dressed up as a chamber cosplay from Valorant, damn you would look good.
After literally looking for a good deal on the market (EU) I`ve found a Sapphire 6950XT Nitro in Germany, open box, for a little bit more than 600 EUR (most of these cards still go way over 800-900 EUR which is mental...) .... I took a gamble and it paid out! I was super relieved (I honestly thought it would be a scam or something), the card was pretty much new, even had the foil on the shroud! So I don`t feel bad not getting any of the newer cards as pricing in the EU is still ridiculous!
I got a second hand card mint condition RX 6600 for $170.. it performs closely to an RX 6600XT. 2nd hand cards from AMD tend to be more affordable especially since RDNA3 cards are around the corner. This is your time to buy if you only play FPS games and Medium-High settings on AAA games.
Really unhappy with my 6700XT. It was a bump from my 1070 but definitely not a huge bump and it's not consistent frame delivery. I game at 4k though, so, maybe that has something to do it. Definitely upgrading to a 3080 soon for how cheap they are.
I use this same card in a 4K monitor with FSR its ok fps capped at 60fps if I ever need more "eye candy" kind of stuff I lower the res to 1440p I don't play competitive titles. AND no by any means 6700xt is a card targeted for 4K. You are not "unhappy" you just coudln't achieve what you were looking for with the 6700xt. You need more gpu power for 4K output even new cards still struggle at 4K res the 3080 still need some tweaks for 4K. Thats why they created the scaling methods FSR DLSS and XeSS.
@@christiansonsen actually I should retract my comment a little bit. I just upgraded from my 4790k to a 12600K and now this card is capable of doing 4K 60fps ultra quality graphics on tons of games. Turns out I was severely CPU bound and didn't even know it. Also the 6700xt is just below the 3080 in terms of performance. The difference is like 2%.
You’d have to be crazy to Not realize one is cheaper for a reason????? You get what you pay for in life Radeon is better than it’s even been but Nvidia is still a more polished product.
As much as I like to see supply/demand forces at work rather than just static price fixing, trying to build my new rig has been made that much more difficult. Want an all AMD build using a 7800X3D, but it's very difficult finding the right GPU without pushing my build cost too high. Even though I mostly game in 1080p, I also like running with the highest settings possible and I do often like to overclock my CPUs and GPUs to make them last longer. This is tricky because what if a particular vendor didn't implement proper cooling on the PWMs? Then you have to do after market cooling. To give you an idea of what I'm talking about, I still use a heavily OC'd R9 380. I could push the GPU itself much much further without heating/voltage issues but the PWMs are limiting me. This was design foresight issue with the ASUS Strix DirectCU II cards. They didn't have proper PWM cooling. So, price and base performance per dollar is far from the only set of data points I have to deal with.
In that case, that falls to the AIB. EVGA was my go to on the Nvidia side (RIP) and Sapphire/XFX have always been good to me on the Radeon side of things. You can't really go wrong either way as long as the prices are competitive and you have more than 8GB of VRAM. Games are already using that amount at 1080p with settings cranked.
r9 380 brings back memories. I got a r9 390x back in 2017 and used it up until January this year when I upgraded to a 4080. My card still works, I got my moneys worth with that thing. it still plays every game even cyber punk. did not get to try Hogwarts with it though. I was playing most older games high settings at 1440p to 4k. cyber punk turned it into 1080p card though. just not enough horsepower.
Asrock RX 6950 XT oc formula selling for $700 on Newegg. That’s $60 cheaper then what is listed in the video description and it comes with 2 free games. 😮
You will see in one or two years how much it will be sufficient and my best guess will be you will need a new graphics card by then, while people that bought much more powerful cards now can lean back for the next 5 years.
What’s funnier is that now, 5 months later, AMD cards have only dropped in cost so much more while Nvidia stagnated. Nothing makes more sense than AMD, and if you enable SAM, keep the card at stable temps like 60-70c, and overclock VRAM, you get a very smooth experience. The drivers aren’t even that bad. For example (in the best improvements you would see), FH4 gets a 25-30% improvement in framerate, with a much more stable frametime (in 1080p, the effect lessens with resolution). Drivers can only get better (most of the time). Intel is also a great competitor to Nvidia now. This means that the gap in value has only increased away from Nvidia.
And also your Target-Framerate is important. A 3060ti won't help me if i wanna get 165fps at 1440p. And then people could argue that everything above that target is wasted but important for smooth gameplay are the 1% lows. I came from a RX6800 to a RX7900XTX and to be honest? Gaming never felt that smooth because i aim for 1440p165 and in many titles my 1% lows are like 160 or sth like that. Even the 6800 was also a very powerful card but dropping 20-30 frames here and there can feel less smooth... And you should always keep in your mind that a lower tier card may be swapped out quicker. That could have reasons like less VRAM or the pure performance. If you are on a low budget i'd always recommend to get a 6700XT with 12GB VRam instead of a 3070 or 3060Ti with 8GB f.e. I'd even prefer it over a 3060 with 12GB because the 6700XT is just quicker. :)
Just got a prebuilt Lenovo with an r7, 3060ti, 1 tb ss and 16 gb ram for 1099 euro. I'm in The Netherlands so that includes 21% tax. Runs great at 1440p. No need to spend more for me. The upgrade beyond that is so much more expensive for such a relatively small graphical upgrade that I just don't see the point. 😊
So this is what’s recommended for gpus lately. I actually got an Hp Omen 25L pc that has a RX 6600XT gpu, and it works pretty well, though it’s kinda baffling that it’s more expensive yet has a slightly lower frame rate than the 6650XT. Either I’m pretty happy with my computer overall as I can game at 1440p and always have the option to go to 1080p if I ever need to get better performance
Depends on where you are located, in Germany the used market is better for Nvidia Cards. The 3060 Ti is a tad weaker than 6700 XT in Rasterization, the 3070 a tad stronger. Both win over the 6700 XT once DLSS or of course RT enters the equation. The 3070 can be had for like 40 bucks more here in the used market, so it`s easily the best Option for 1080p imo. Same for the 3080, you can get these for 550€, the 6800XT costs the same, they trade blows depending on the Games, again, when DLSS is at hand, which is very often the case, Nvidia wins and is the better Value. And you actually have the option to use RT as well. I find it really amazing how spot on the used market usually gets often pricing in the exact performance benefits much more so than new prices, which are whack these days.
This is great work and much appreciated. Thank you. I will assume that the prices shown are excl any US taxes. If so then for UK market, based on PCPartPicker, it's not as bad as some may think, though the UK is still more expensive. Once you strip the VAT (+20%) and adjust for the currency (1USD = 0.81GBP) the RX6700 is +£15 ($18) but the RX6650XT however is poor value at +£37 ($46). There's only one tier difference in performance but the price variation does not reflect this. I will assume the same is true for other international markets.
I am currently running a GTX 1080 but bought a new monitor a few weeks ago and it struggles to get near the 165Hz the 1440p panel is able to display. Thus I've now ordered an RX7900xtx. The Only choice of Nvidias lineup for me would have been the 4070ti, since the 3000-series cards dont't support dlss3 and still have a high price tag afterall. The 4080/4090 are way too expensive. The AMD card on the other hand gives me a lot of performance for it's (still insanely high) price tag and i am convinced that it will last a few years in contrast to some more budged oriented options.
Probably better to give several good recommendations of various prices for 1080p, 1440p, and 4k. Rather than organizing it by price primarily. Also your "test suite" rating for fps, is skewed very high. Are you testing everything at minimum settings? or is the test suite just cs-go + doom?
Lol what about the GTX 970 superclocked? This card beats all of these especially if you have 2 of them! It beats them all as a bedroom heater that is lol. Cyberpunk 3070 makes a small sun on this SLI lol.
It is a mistake to accept these prices. Both AMD and NVidia are drunk on crypto pricing. They are both just pushing gamers to console. $500 dollar graphics card is NOT sane to the average. It is BUY a console unless you want to be ripped off.
Going into holidays last winter I picked up a new pc for such an insane value proposition. I was able to get an i712700, 3090 ddr5 pc and lg c2 monitor for under $5000 CAD ($3700 USD)
You know what’s screwed up? The 4090’s price is comparable to the transmission for my car. Between a high end GPU and my means of getting to work, I’m taking the latter lol
Thanks for the video Its really informative. Im a bit confused since there are many brands in each model Im hesitating between: -RTX3070 zotac double fan -RTX3060TI MSI TRIO/gigabyte gaming oc pro Im a bit concerned about the cooling in the zotac 3070 it runs at 8° more than the gigabyte but also draws 10 to 20 less watts I have an r5 3600 and a 1080p monitor currently
Got a 7900 XTX for MSRP. I think that's the flaw with this methodology: it's a ton of statistical work, that is only relevant for a very brief period of time. Just one month later and I'm hard-pressed to find a 7900 XTX that's more than $100 over MSRP. I can't even imagine one costing $400 over. At $1000, it's relatively a very good deal, more-so than the 7900 XT, even though it's still dumbly expensive for a GPU. Just compared to it's competition...
I'm not really a fan of Intel but I think an actual comparison should mention them, especially if you are searching for the most FPS for your money. It looks as if you just ignored them.
I am going to come back in 6 motnhs when the bottom falls out of this stupid train and these companies realise they are doing the exact opposite of bringing in new gamers and customers. My 6700xt and 5700xt will carry on running our pcs for another few years no bother. No gpu is worth a few textures and pixels for a grand more than it is worth
I am gaming ultrawide 4k and still running a RTX 2070 Super and getting roughly 60-70 fps. I want to upgrade but just not seeing any value in doing so until the prices come down for the 40X models. I would prob need to do a full overhaul of MB and CPU as well to accomidate and not bottleneck. Prices are cray rn.
Purchase a zotac rtx 4070 to for 970 here in Costa Rica and sold my old rtx 3080 10gb for 720 dollars, so got the new rtx 4070 ti for $250, really happy with the purchase, new zotac, old zotac haha
Screw buying new cards at those prices, the market is messed up. Bought a 3070 thats just a few months old for less than the 2 first cards you mentioned :P Otherwise good video with well made comparisons!
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AMD
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💎 7900 XTX | $960 | newegg.io/nc3b41f961
💎 7900 XT | $780 | newegg.io/nc0f3ecb49
💎 6950 XT | $630 | newegg.io/ncf2a127ab
💎 6900 XT | $633 | amzn.to/3UuvPln
💎 6800 XT | $540 | newegg.io/nc1e0bb62c
💎 6800 | $470 | newegg.io/nc305e87e6
💎 6750 XT | $380 | newegg.io/ncc629c199
💎 6700 XT | $350 | newegg.io/nc382f2da6
💎 6700 | $320 | amzn.to/40YYulf
💎 6650 XT | $260 | newegg.io/nc28ae7de6
💎 6600 XT | $255 | newegg.io/ncc582d2fa
💎 6600 | $200 | newegg.io/nc1bfdb87b
💎 6500 XT | $160 | amzn.to/3MGXygU
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NVIDIA
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💎 4090 | $1,600 | newegg.io/nc42af3363
💎 4080 | $1,150 | newegg.io/nca383508b
💎 4070 Ti | $800 | amzn.to/3Gjs5gF
💎 4070 | $600 | newegg.io/ncd1774f9e
💎 3090 Ti | $1,800 | amzn.to/43lNEah
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💎 3080 10GB | $670 | newegg.io/nc76e2e056
💎 3070 Ti | $550 | newegg.io/40b625aa
💎 3070 | $530 | amzn.to/3UC3IRs
💎 3060 Ti GDDR6X | $440 | amzn.to/40YkGvq
💎 3060 Ti GDDR6 | $370 | newegg.io/nc9f7e80c5
💎 3060 12GB | $340 | newegg.io/nc2347e2e1
💎 3060 8GB | $310 | newegg.io/ncad5ab79d
💎 3050 | $269 | newegg.io/nc2cf0aa52
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💎 Arc A770 8GB | $290 | newegg.io/nc56a5c9e5
💎 Arc A750 | $250 | newegg.io/nc3ee556a9
💎 Arc A380 | $120 | newegg.io/nc948a9cd1
@@lunarvvolf9606 Typically, you want to become informed before you formulate an opinion. Not the other way around... Swing and a miss.
Used market analysis will be in another video 👍 if you don't value used, that's cool. But other people might for a variety of reasons. Maybe think about that and try to stay humble 😊
That's all I was hoping for... You watched the video and, as you said - this was a new GPU guide. (Gaming performance specifically, as the title suggests)
I think the issue is that you came in super aggressive and with unfounded prejudgement. I dont think anyone can change your assumptions, as you firmly grounded yourself before becoming educated. But I'm (personally) pro used, anti mining. They are mutually exclusive. And if your values are different, that's cool too. It really is the beauty of independent thought!
If you want to know more about my opinion on that, the good news is, I've made plenty of videos. But given how this has gone.... 🙈
Intel Arc is a valid question and I really do appreciate it. Honestly, time and data. But I'll be looking to include it.
The only thing I have ever asked down here is to be civil. Remember you're interacting with real people, not just me, but the entire community. I encourage any criticism and feedback, but if you're not being pleasant or a decent human being, ill have to step in... you caught me on a good day 😉
@@hubcap4KHDRgameplay Pressure washed cards, a whole batch, were sold after being already misused and not stored properly. This whole talking was pure idiocy from start to finish. A very good example for the “outrage pony” - talking, making videos for clicks, without thinking first.
Ask yourself, why should somebody send quite “young” GPUs to a (costly) repair shop using their own money and not RMA them? As the buyers already new, the warranty was voided.
Even the initial (first) videomaker (KrisFix) finally did a bit of thinking and asked the customers. The cards came from one seller, all of them, one single batch. They came from a mining farm and were too clean for used. The repair shop concluded that they were pressure(!) washed and neither handled nore stored correctly. The batch was sold in EU/Germany, ta ta -> Outrage without reason.
So even the Tech Jesus ;-) Steve will soon talk about it, if not already happened. The major outlets already corrected the articles, videos or did new ones. Some like PCworld even talked about the problem, that the “tech reviewers” created a problem out of thin air without rethinking first, clicks/views > research/thinking.
6800 XT deal sold out.
Updated as of 3pm ET 🙂
Despite all these recommendations from various tech channels, RTX3060 still out-selling 6700XT and 6600/XT. Never underestimate the power of uninformed gamers and Nvidia fanboys.
Maybe the market is not solely dictated by gamers, and maybe you should stop assuming the choice is made because of misinformation, and not the obvious merits of Nvidia cards in other applications.
@@analogicparadox hey everybody! I found the fanboy😂
Not a fanboy. have owned a dozen radeon cards. I think the 3060 is a crap product. But AMD hasn't done themselves any favors regarding their software/card stability. The drivers are crap, folks. It's a shame.
@@analogicparadox how many fortnite gamers use their gaming pcs for something else that can leverage their gpu power? 10%? 20%? Even with 20% of gamers using their gpus for something other than gaming (which is probably more like 10%), for Nvidia to sell at a 10:1 ration vs AMD is literally because of misinformed buyers.
Streaming with 6700 or 6600 is GARBONZO though
The 6700XT is very underrated. A great 1440P you’ll enjoy for years. I’ve seen them go as low as 300 euro used with more than enough warranty left.
Too bad all the AMD cards are exploding on impact right now. Currently the 6700XT (specifically but not limited to), is now in the spotlight for huge numbers of them imploding because the die is " Cracking"....AMD says they'll get back to us....AMD is a SH^^ Show at the moment.....Hard Pass !
@@truthfilterforyoutube8218 maybe you should do some more research. The cause of that had nothing to do with AMD. How many of your AMD gpus failed? Stop spreading misinformation. If you want you pay twice as much for the same performance, keep on keeping on.
@@truthfilterforyoutube8218 Nah, turns out it was a group of used cards from a single seller who washed them all with a water hose and probably got moisture in them.
@@truthfilterforyoutube8218 what are you saying? lol
@@truthfilterforyoutube8218 mining VGA ??
remember at this time there are still many miners out there.
>>never buy a used VGA if you want it to last and have a warranty ~
Snagged a 6750XT for $380 during the holiday season... Always feels good to see how worth it it was hehe EDIT: The charts are kind of hard to follow with the shot cutting between you and the charts often. Maybe look into having a smaller frame near the chart with you in it, which would let you highlight/zoom in on items of interest while not taking the information away from the viewer.
Agreed, my only critisism really. Otherwise a superb video, otherwise Steve from HWUB would be proud :)
@cptwhite Glad you agree. The current format spends a little too much time on a full shot of him talking, which is time that could be spent listening to him and applying that info to the data. I don't mean to knock down the video because it's SO close to being exactly what people need.
Agree. Great video. I like how it's data rich. He focuses on the numbers. No waffling.
Just a bit quick with showing and then hiding the graphs. Just as I look at wherever RX 6700 XT is and then look with a Nvidia RTX 3060 is and then start to look around on the graph it's gone.
I wonder if it's possible for him to do a graphic where he highlights the two cards on the graph and then the next page is the two cards with this new graphic showing MSRP vs cheapest price new, etc I'm focusing on these two as he's making his point. Without the flipping around into different images of a guy with some cash in his hand and then some other image and then some other image.
There's a lot to take in and he talks quickly but I do like it but it can be a little bit hard to read the graph while he's talking and then the picture changes.
Reading a page of a graph takes longer than one or two seconds.
I'm wondering if he has a website where he has all the data and we can type in our budget and we can select new all used and the resolution and we can see what are the best cards. Or a card hierarchy chart like Tom's Hardware used to do 5 10 years ago. They had a great top to bottom chart with the most highest performing cards at the top lowest at the bottom and each row would contain one or a few cards that had similar performance ability. This way you could quickly look at your card even if it was a few years old and see just how much better a newer card might be in terms of performance.
Thanks for the feedback! I'll definitely take it into consideration in the next one 😊
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now I'm actually working on something quite similar! Think you'll appreciate it a lot... But may take a month or 2 to be developed.
In many places the 6650xt is actually the one comparable to th 3060 because of weird pricing stuff. In Germany (when I bought mine) the cheapest available prices were: 350€ for the 3060, 320€ for the 6550xt and 430€ for the 6700xt, which was closer to the 3060ti at around 440€. All prices exclusively for brand new products from reputable retailers.
Just bought 6650 xt for 220 euro. dope
I believe you’ve done a major community service here as many Techtubers only look at RRP/MSRP when listing their GPU performance charts …… and for many this isn’t reliable as real world pricing dictates the tier of GPU that many will chose….. or hold out or save more for something offering better performance / value. Great work and love the detailed information in your charts and showing the combination of GPU RRP / MSRP vs Real World Pricing with included performance at various resolutions 💪🥰😇👍
Thanks dude!
@@TechLens No really, this is the best possible breakdown for prospective GPU buyers I have ever seen. Good job!
I went the used gpu route and got a 3080 for $550 in September. I took my time and researched and the card was in great shape and allowed me to get into 1440p without having to spend over $700 for a new 3080. I'm gonna stick with this card for a while and skip these new gen cards
@@Vlad_Shv sometimes you have to weigh the risks to rewards so I respect that! And yes the 3080 is a great card and will last us a good while!
@TvRF Great deal and great 1080p card for years to come!
@@Vlad_Shv honestly not that bad for a new 3080. Of course, higher than it should be, but relative to the other price, it’s not that bad. I’m thinking about going for the 4070ti in a couple months for around 800 usd. It’s high too, but it’s right in between the 3090 and 3090ti performance in most gaming cases, but both of those will run you 1500-2000. I think basically all cards are priced pretty dang high right now, so 800 for something not too much worse than a 3090ti isn’t bad. And, with the cards just releasing and staying around msrp with what seems to be good stock, hoping the price will drop a little bit. (Also I probably would be going with a cheaper card, but I’m upgrading from a 2070S, so buying something like the 3060ti for example, wouldn’t be worth it)
@@Vlad_Shv eww, 40 series? gross man
@@Vlad_Shv u forgot the insane power draw and when kwh prices go so does ur monthly sub to use ur pc xd
I feel like price per frame is a good meteric, but another factor is the frame rate you get above the frame rate you are targeting. Few people buy every generation GPU. So if yo get a 4090 and it delivers 4k 60+fps for the next 5-7 years, then it has well and truely outperformed the price per performance of 3 consecutive 4060/5060/6060rtx purchases.
Plus, inflation will drive up the future purchase price of the future purchases.
Thank you for investing the time into this! A really incredible resource for us budget pc gamers. Funny thing is, I came to the same conclusion on a $500 budget, preferring the RX 6800
I snagged a rtx 3070 for just under $400!
crazy how a $500 gpu is now considered " budget"
@@connorosullivan3500 budget is a relative term lol
@@BadWeatherfreak 500 tho... not so sure about that
Well: While this is interesting (and informative), there is also one additional metric that people tend to forget. Power consumption. Say you live in the EU. You have a 230V outlet in your wall. And you have a main breaker of 32 Amps in most relatively new houses. That is a grand total of 7360 Watts of continuous power draw. If you install a smaller AC that has a power draw of 2-3 kWh, and then a fridge, some lamps, all you will have left for whatever other equipments you need is the scraps.
In fact, where I live it is customary to put a 16A breaker per room, and that will have to supply your AC, the computer, the lamps, and all the screens you use. So generally I tend to think in terms of power budget for the PC too. Adding in more electrical lines costs an arm and a leg. It can be around the ballpark of an average yearly salary for the paperwork, the boxes and the installment.
And this is where it gets annoying. Remember the olden days? When we had cards like the GeForce 1050Ti? The thing is: around 6-8 years ago the basic entry level card required no external power, and could work well from the PCIe power delivery (75W total card power for the 50 series). Then we had the 60 series, and they used around 120W and had a 6 pin connector. The 70 series was where power draw started to ramp up with the introduction of 8 pin connectors.
What do we have today? The 3050 uses 135 Watts of power. Sure, it is as powerful, as the 2060 (that is as powerful as the 1070, AND has the same power draw), but I do not see power draw going down. In fact, I see the total power draw going way up.
To sum it up: Another interesting graph is performance for power consumption. When comparing an NVidia graphics card to an AMD one, we should also compare the ones that use the same amount of power. So the 3050 will go against the RX 6600 non-xt, as that is the card with the closest power draw. Do not forget: electricity also costs money. And power plants take a long time to build...
I bought a 6750Xt about 6 months ago along with a 5800X3d for about £1000 . It's a great system and will last me years. I don't need all the bells and whistles as we say in the UK. I don't need ray tracing and I wont pay Ngreedys prices to do so
I gotta snag me up a 5800x3d too and pair it with my 6900XT. I know my i7-8700 is bottlenecking my performance a good bit! D;
i got a used 3090 with proof of purchase from best buy for $700. comes down to about $6.80/frame based off the number used in this video. I’m really happy with it and don’t plan on upgrading any time soon. paired it with a 5800x3d because I had been waiting to complete my build so my motherboard isn’t made for zen 4
I found 6650 XT's for under $300, and got those, because the 6600xt was higher priced, (than the 6650) and the 6700's were out of my price range, at the time
Noice, if you found 6650xt for below 300 its worth it, but amd card pricing in our country is so bad, i also tried to buy one 6650xt but i had to buy rtx card because the price was similar or little bit higher at that time.
This is my story too. Got 6650xt for around 280USD(7820CZK w 21perc VAT), while 6600xt was more expensive. Seems 6600xt were simply old stock and new gpus came at discounts, retailers simply hoping old stock would sell to some guys one day.
I considered also 6600 (but it was like 250USD, 6700 10G for 340USD, 6700xt was more expensive of fps per dollar over 6650xt).
MSI MECH 6650xt OC is bad default settings on fans, voltage and frequency but quite easy and entertaining to set it make it cool and quiet.
Dont ignore your monitor refresh rate limits too, setting proper max fps can keep gpu efficient and silent.
(I have just 1440p 75Hz monitor, its enough for World of warships gaming and difference between unlimited fps and game devs optimal 75fps is 100W savings with fps cap)
@@silgrimmarak8699 If I had been paid my bonus just 3 days earlier, i could have gotten those 6650xt's for @ $265. the 6600 was 280 and the 6600xt was 320.
Sorry to hear they are so expensive where you live
@@gstormcz We upgraded monitors last year. Pixio 1080p with 144 refresh rate.
I looked at Tom's hardware tier list for graphics. I knew i didn't want a 6500 or 3050. Both were about the same as my 580. Started off looking at 6600xt's, but noticed the 6650xt's were 30-50 lower. If my bonus had come the week before (like Friday, I got it Wednesday )I saw a sale on the 6650xt for @$265
@@jonathanwessner3456 damn 265 is deal, but i had to buy rtx 3060 ti for 390$ becuz amd cards are still expensive here, rx 6600 is priced so bad here like 280$ and rtx 3050 is also priced so bad starting at 280$, and rx 6650xt is also priced so bad its over 375$ which makes 3060 ti a better value, rx 6700xt was priced good only 50$-60$ more than 3060 ti, but i had to buy rtx bcuz i dont want to upgrade or spend for new psu yet,
I just bought the AMD 6950. Can't wait for it to arrive!
Anything over $750usd for a graphics card is a bad value and just plain insane, except for those running a business using a graphics card. If you continue to purchase cards at these artificially inflated prices, you will only perpetuate this madness.
I did a sidegrade to 3060Ti for two reasons. One, random card driver issues. Though I will say the 6700XT was SUPREMELY better than the 5700XT! Overall very good experience, especially at around $340, what I paid for it late last year. Second, occasionally booting to a black screen, still having weird game issues on specific stuff (Ryujinx will either sing or cry with an AMD graphics card and you can't tell which) and still overall being much more happy with video capture with Nvidia over Radeon, I can take winning some fights and losing some. Plus the 3060Ti was $300 plus shipping used at the time I decided to switch, so easy exchange imo. Preferring DLSS over FSR is merely a technicality, DO NOT PAY TAXES FOR BAD FRAME HACKS. Look at rasterized performance, and if the Radeon is significantly cheaper than the Nvidia card you're looking at with equal or better performance, you will be much much happier with that. Even on the 40-series Nvidia cards, raytracing is still dogshit and tanks your framerate, unless you use the "features" of frame hacks like DLSS and fake frame insertion, at which point... why are we making the quality go down to sorta kinda make the quality go up in ways? Stupid. Just buy on rasterized performance and card stability and pricing. RTX features are trying to sell you something that sucks anyways.
interesting, may i ask, have u used FSR with the 6700XT and DLSS with the 3060TI ?
i have used both FSR and DLSS and i think DLSS looks *way* better in person and i can actually play with it unlike shimmery FSR.
i wonder if u feel the or not.
The 3060ti is the only good value Nvidia GPU imo. A $400 3060ti is not a horrible choice over a $360 6700xt.
@@deagle7602 uh why 6700xt slightly beats 3060 ti. for me the best value for nvidia is the used market.
@@gametime4316 they both look bad, I wouldn't call DLSS "good" when it still hurts the image quality in everything but still shots. It's not worth any extra money, especially when AMD gives it away for free and it's even remotely comparable to the "premium" you're paying.
@@deagle7602 Some people just don't accept Nvidia is superior, simply get a job and stop digging the dumpster for a RX graphic card.
It's even worse in Europe.. I bought a Sapphire RX 6700 Pulse at 375 euros thanks to a good deal (6700 normally at around 380-400 euros for the cheapest models) and the RX 6700XT is at 450+ euros (for the cheapest models too, and the price went down just recently).. OG RTX 3060Ti at 520+ euros. Those prices are crazy..
Great video and data, one thing I would recommend is cutting out the real world pricing on the chart. The only 2 things that "matter" would be ppf and the fps, the price can be extrapolated from it and makes it a bit harder to read. What we are looking for is a highest white and lowest pink where actual prices should just be listed by the card so we can scan looking for what fits out budget. Like I said though, great video.
And if you got an AMD gpu and cpu, then you can use SAM for better performance.
after looking at graphics cards recently, i noticed alot of cards that hiked up during covid due to many reasons + crypto mining, have stayed relatively high. however the LHR versions that were released after came back down close to or below RRP. I think once we get past the last couple of generations, we will see GPU's back to normality, which is what you can see from the high end cards. yea they are still pricey but geez, paying 2K for a 3080 last year was insanity. I set myself a budget of £500 and picked up a 3070 this week for my studio workstation
If you wanted to risk it for the biscuit and by used on the marketplaces then you can get a 3080 for £300, a 3080 ti for £350 and 3090's for £400-£500... Ofc there's the risk of getting scammed but used market for Nvidia is where you go for budget GPU prices.
I dont think it will change any time soon. because now the 4000 series is over 1k euros. And most people will need 12gb gpu and more. Yes you can buy some 12gb GPUs with poor performance. And im sure when i can buy 4090 that will look shit for our needs. And even if they overdo GPU-s than probably PCU processors prices will skyrocket. So just buy what you are ok right now.
should i get an LHR card? i know it won’t affect gaming im just not sure what hash rate actually does affect
Why did you skip Intel GPUs? They are amazing right now after driver updates in the past few months, their ray tracing is on par with nGreedia
Which one do you use? Arc 750 or 770. I am interested in the arc5 if they come out.
Wow I didn't know that their raytracing is similar to Nvidia's. I really hope that their next GPUs are better and that they sell more
Funny thing is gross margins are about the same Nvidia vs AMD, Nvidia just costs more to produce. Gross margins are 40% for AMD 50% for Nvidia.
Searched for this specifically and found your video - EXCELLENT overall, love the use of real world data, not bogus MSRPs - bravo to you and anyone who worked on this, subbed!
Currently building a PC for a 12yr old, all they want is RTX, doesn't matter what you say to them, don't know what specific card, just something with "RTX"...
Should show 1% lows instead of avg, like the 4090 has high $ per frame but there is something to be said for keeping frames above 60fps at 4k in most situations
Just bought one baby
Yeah I picked up my first AMD GPU ever a red devil 6750xt for $430 got it over the $500+ 3070 at 1440p they are damn near the same.
Given that you can still game at 1080p very decently with a GTX 970 there are a lot of options for those who are heavily budget restricted. Even with older hardware one has to be careful, the iconic 1080 ti is quite expensive here in Denmark compared to some much newer and better GPUs. All depending on your wallet.
As for the video, correct, the 6700 xt is a great card for 1440p and will last you a while. You might get a 6750 xt for around the same price if you dig deep.
Been wondering about this because my 1060 performs better than the 3070ti I just bought on 1080p kinda crazy...
@@zexxxy_ow2 could be a CPU bottleneck. If it happens on 1080p and it seems like a downgrade then I suggest looking into that. What are your current specs?
@@spackseries4400
MOBO - X570 AORUS MASTER
GPU - Geforce RTX 3070 Ti VENTUS 3x 8G OC
CPU - AMD RYZEN 9 3900x 12-core processor
RAM - 63.95 gb
(base clock on the cpu is 3.8 - tried kicking it up to
4.1 and it helps a little but not at all the performance I expect from a 700$ card.)
The 1060 holds 250 fps at low settings 1080p
it drops to around 200 or a little less when I get into large
teamfights with heavy visual clutter. (Overwatch 2)
The 3070 can hold 300 but drops when things get crazy, furthest I saw it drop
once was 190.
Now I know 190 doesnt sound bad but when this drop occurs the screen loses all
smoothness, my aiming lags like its on 60hz. So its not a stable 190 at all.
Thanks for any help, really appreciate it.
Yeah but once you go 1440 you can’t go back.
Been shopping for a new card and this video helped me massively dial in my choices based on my budget. Nice one! Went for the RX 6650XT and getting Starfield bundle in for free which is really great saving.
That card is not $480. MSRP means almost nothing, it's just a number manufacturers put as the recommended price for retailers, but the actual value comes from the market itself. It's more like $300-$350 now.
Where did you get the $900 MSRP for the 3080 12GB model? It was released without a MSRP or a NVidia vanilla version? When it was released it was during the worst card buying timeframe you could imagine.
Feeling awesome about my 6750 XT after watching this.
Really appreciate the real world recommendations! Is there any chance you could make a video like this for cpus also including current motherboard prices?
Here's a really resumed explanation of the CPUs rn. If you're looking for a top tier CPU, Intel's are more expensive, still better for gaming (although amd's catching up), but the raptor lake motherboards support DDR4 ram unlike am5 motherboards who only support DDR5, as you may know, intel's 13th gen was the last raptor lake cpu, so you're gonna have to upgrade your motherboard once the 14th gen comes out if you wanna upgrade whereas the am5 will likely still be the next amd gen architecture, if you're not looking for a top tier it really depends on what you want so can't really help you with that
@@Andreluis2006_ I'm more interested in the low end right now. I was looking at a 5600 and a b550 board so I could reuse my ddr4 memory and I'm not really concerned about am4 not being updated since I don't upgrade very often anyway. The intel alternative would be 12400f and a matching motherboard but those are a bit more expensive where I live and and 11400f for a similar price to amd wouldn't really be any better. I'm hoping that after the holidays and the 7000 series price cuts the 5000 series and b550 mobos will get some discounts but idk.
@@vladent4398 I mean, yeah if you don't upgrade very often and you want that price range I'd say that's a good way to go
Man this was the best video I've seen in a while when it comes to explaining the important details im running an Nvidia GTX 1080 8GB FE with an I-5 12600k and 32GB DDR5 6000mhz and I want to upgrade what would be a good solid upgrade to last me a while that would keep my recordings and streams looking good and stable whatever i can sell the 1080 for will pretty much be my cash for a new gpu.
Please leave your charts up for longer before panning back to you. Great video and data, just frustrating to constantly pause in order to see numbers.
Thumbs up. I would suggest rounding 799.99 or 623.03 type of prices, would reduce clutter
Got the 3060ti and I’m happy with it. But these cards are better deal in my opinion. I just like the rtx series and the 3060ti is cheap here in Canada
We all should go buy an Arc just to send a message to these pricings. I mean, 1660super are being sold at 300-350 dollars, when I bought that card at about 140 USD 2-3 years ago, it just doesn't make any sense. How it comes that CPU's prices are so stable (they even depreciate) with every launch and GPU's just sky rocket whenever a new line comes out? Take Ryzen as an example: Ryzen 1600 launching price range is the same as 2600, 3600, 5600 and even 7600 is about there, despite it's been more years, inflation, pandemic and war. And you can say the same for every other part of the PC.
One thing to note is that Nvidia has a bigger driver overhead, so if you have a less powerful CPU the AMD GPU will always pull ahead. Heck, a 5700XT can even beat a 3070 if you pair them with an old pentium
I've been with a GTX 1080Ti (EVGA FTW3 - Paired w/ 8700K@ 4.8GHZ) since 2017' and the performance falls somewhere between the RTX 3060 - 3060Ti - So STILL good for most AAA games at 1440p/60FPS+ - In Destiny 2 for example I have everything maxed out at 1440p w/ frame rates averaging ~120FPS.
Been rocking the 1080Ti for years as well it’s an absolute monster and has stood the test of time. I’m looking to upgrade and struggling to decide whether 4070Ti is the right choice considering VRAM. It’s within my budget but 7900XT is also appealing since I’m not super interested in RT and such. The market is so weird right now
I found a used RX 6600 xt eagle 3 fans for $176 from an online seller, best deal ive ever got, card looks fantastic and performs well
Hello, nice info you got there.
Currently, I am using RX580 right now and had been looking for an upgrade for a while.
I know that most of the time, amd card has better price to performance ratio compared to nvdia.
But from all I heard around, is that for single pc streaming(play+livestream+recording) , nvenc is still better compared to amd gpu.
I had been trying to find the equivalent of nvenc on amd card, but so far most of the information I got is telling me that nvenc is still better.
Could you enlighten me on this topic?
well I mean the rx580 is pretty monstrous for a budget card and with good optimizations you can easily get 80-144 consistent fps in almost every game available on low-med settings
The only real gpu upgrade you could make is either to a 6800xt/6700xt or a 3060 so you can run 144fps consistently at med-high settings
@@ohhkennny766 I was talking about streaming tho. The gpu has no problem playing. The problem came when I play+stream+record.
And I already got 3070ti, as per stated from original comment. Amd has nothing equivalent to nvenc. So AMD is clearly not the option, thx for your reply tho.
@@Ferios oops i didn't see the read more lol my phone screen was fucked up and just recently got it repaired
So Im wanting nothing more then 1440p and my monitor is 175hz which gpu should I go after I’m currently using a 2070 super and ryzen 7 3700x cpu ..I’m about to upgrade them both
i also have both of them and the same resolution but i think these are very good for 1440p 60fps
Very informative video and to add on this,
For Budget gamers who don't mind buying used try and hunt a good Ebay deal for used RTX 2000 series, all the hype on RTX 3000 and RX6000 series made them drop in price, I got lucky and got an RTX 2080 for 230$ as an upgrade from my GTX 1070, It is a Beast! , I am a 1080p gamer and the 2080 runs everything at ultra above 60fps and for competitive games go up to over 200fps easy, and I can do raytracing on games like cyberpunk with dlss quality and the game still does 60fps with ultra ray tracing and looks amazing, so keep watch instead of buying an RX6600 or 6600XT for 250$ buy an RTX 2000 series instead and get better performance per dollar and better ray tracing if you want it.
Don't forget local listings like Offerup and Craigslist. That helps bring the cost down, because sellers don't have to factor in shipping and ebay fees. I was able to purchase an RTX 2070 Super for $160, and later on, I also scored an RX 5700XT for $125. Both AIB cards, and from Offerup.
@@CyberClu I agree. And I believe buyers still have to pay sales tax though ebay? Anyway, as long as you know what you're doing then you can definitely get a good buy off OfferUp. I got a sapphire 6800xt for $450 which seemed brand new as it still had the official stickers to seal the box. Been using it for a month with no issues. But honestly it was sketchy and did seem like a scam. My theory is that it wasn't brand new. It's working though so I got a good buy
@@CyberCluthat's awesome those are some good deals,
people seem to have forgotten that the older flagship gpus are now budget beasts that crunch frames at a lower cost than the new budget stuff around.
@@deagle7602 buying from ebay is always gonna feel sketchy but its a risk worth taking because the reward is high if you succeed, scary but worth it.
The RX 6700 XT also supports ray tracing, but won't work with DLSS since it's an Nvidia technology. However, it will work with FSR which although similar is less used in development
Because AMD created FSR so of course it will work, infact most cards support it. FSR 2.0 works even on a RX580 not the best but it works
Just bought a powercolor 6750 xt red devil at about 370 usd here in indonesia. Making a new rig cheap rig for about 1000$ with 5700x and 32gig ram. Im happy as it is far more powerful than my old notebook with 1660 ti thats just died.
I just got a 3060ti in my new built, will wait for the prices going down on the 7900xt or a 4070ti/4080 so in the meantime I will saving up for one of them
I just bought a 6700xt for super cheap, very excited to have the performance boost over my current GTX 1050
i appreciate you considering budget, unlike other channels which seem like they expect us to spend $100 just for a few extra frames
Im so happy to have bought my 3060ti. It is still the best value card-from nividia at least- and its served me well for the 2 years ive had it.
same, but I recently after 3-4 years of 1440p upgraded to 4K LG C2 and need at least 4070Ti, but it just lacks VRAM.
Sadly AMD has no competition in that market, as at those prices I aso expect to use Ray Tracing and 7900XT offers worse RT perforamance at same price.
I guess I will just wait for Super series or 5000 series next year for better prices and just deal with playing without RT at 4K and Medium/High settings and DLSS Quality.
Great presentation of the actual market prices. Shame the situation in Europe right now is that our prices are basically double the prices you see in the US. No cards below MSRP this side of the Atlantic.
If people in Europe bitch and moan as much as people in the US about "inflation" I feel bad for you.
I wish cards had these prices over here. You would basically have to move every single card up one price category
You should do a laptop GPU to desktop GPU performance comparison chart. (Based on laptop models as some may have better cooling). And then we'll figure out the prices.
This would be good for people who don't stay at home frequently. College kids, people that travel or work a lot on the road.
The 3060 does very well in today’s market for the money. I got a deal on mine and I wouldn’t have bothered with anything else. It’s a GPU that does it job and I’ve never experienced anything under 60 FPS, never experienced any crashes or anything of the sort. I don’t see why everyone in the comments have such a negative bias toward these cards. Nvidia does it’s job and always has for me. I’m sure AMD does it’s job too. They are all good cards beyond what is NEEDED for todays games. Silly arguments in these comments. Absolute lunacy.
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I have a question abuot "The Data" posted. How man total games did you use for all those numbers? Is it 10 games or 30 games? Which games are they? Curious to find out.
idk where you got $480 for a 6700xt from, Amazon has multiple 6700xt's for $420 or less right now lol
Those numbers are the MSRP. On the chart at 1:19, the blue bar represents 'Lowest Price for New' which he has the 6700 XT at $359.99. I got a PowerColor Fighter 6700XT for $369.99.
almost forgot GPU issue nowdays...my 3080 Ti done so many job here...🤗 imma gonna skip 4000series...unless technical issue...daaaaa
Excellent, just what I needed, happy to sub :)
Very Thorough! This is EXACTLY the type of video and analysis I like to see. Excellent.
Ok ok, all fine and good, and I really do appreciate that sort of content, thx for that but...
could you do a video dressed up as a chamber cosplay from Valorant, damn you would look good.
I just bought a 6600xt for 240$ used but still in warenty for 18 months. I'm happy.
After literally looking for a good deal on the market (EU) I`ve found a Sapphire 6950XT Nitro in Germany, open box, for a little bit more than 600 EUR (most of these cards still go way over 800-900 EUR which is mental...) .... I took a gamble and it paid out! I was super relieved (I honestly thought it would be a scam or something), the card was pretty much new, even had the foil on the shroud! So I don`t feel bad not getting any of the newer cards as pricing in the EU is still ridiculous!
Excellent analysis and breakdown, thanks.
The GPU evaluation we really want. Dude a sub is born.
Wow this video is too good for delivering useful info and summarise the gpu. Subscribed!
Managed to find a 6600 hellhound for 100$ (open box) , don't think anything comes close to that even in the used market
Well damn... probably the best deal in the last 3 years. Congrats!
I got a second hand card mint condition RX 6600 for $170.. it performs closely to an RX 6600XT.
2nd hand cards from AMD tend to be more affordable especially since RDNA3 cards are around the corner. This is your time to buy if you only play FPS games and Medium-High settings on AAA games.
Really unhappy with my 6700XT. It was a bump from my 1070 but definitely not a huge bump and it's not consistent frame delivery. I game at 4k though, so, maybe that has something to do it. Definitely upgrading to a 3080 soon for how cheap they are.
I use this same card in a 4K monitor with FSR its ok fps capped at 60fps if I ever need more "eye candy" kind of stuff I lower the res to 1440p I don't play competitive titles. AND no by any means 6700xt is a card targeted for 4K. You are not "unhappy" you just coudln't achieve what you were looking for with the 6700xt. You need more gpu power for 4K output even new cards still struggle at 4K res the 3080 still need some tweaks for 4K. Thats why they created the scaling methods FSR DLSS and XeSS.
@@christiansonsen actually I should retract my comment a little bit. I just upgraded from my 4790k to a 12600K and now this card is capable of doing 4K 60fps ultra quality graphics on tons of games. Turns out I was severely CPU bound and didn't even know it. Also the 6700xt is just below the 3080 in terms of performance. The difference is like 2%.
You’d have to be crazy to
Not realize one is cheaper for a reason????? You get what you pay for in life Radeon is better than it’s even been but Nvidia is still a more polished product.
As much as I like to see supply/demand forces at work rather than just static price fixing, trying to build my new rig has been made that much more difficult. Want an all AMD build using a 7800X3D, but it's very difficult finding the right GPU without pushing my build cost too high. Even though I mostly game in 1080p, I also like running with the highest settings possible and I do often like to overclock my CPUs and GPUs to make them last longer. This is tricky because what if a particular vendor didn't implement proper cooling on the PWMs? Then you have to do after market cooling. To give you an idea of what I'm talking about, I still use a heavily OC'd R9 380. I could push the GPU itself much much further without heating/voltage issues but the PWMs are limiting me. This was design foresight issue with the ASUS Strix DirectCU II cards. They didn't have proper PWM cooling. So, price and base performance per dollar is far from the only set of data points I have to deal with.
In that case, that falls to the AIB. EVGA was my go to on the Nvidia side (RIP) and Sapphire/XFX have always been good to me on the Radeon side of things. You can't really go wrong either way as long as the prices are competitive and you have more than 8GB of VRAM. Games are already using that amount at 1080p with settings cranked.
r9 380 brings back memories. I got a r9 390x back in 2017 and used it up until January this year when I upgraded to a 4080. My card still works, I got my moneys worth with that thing. it still plays every game even cyber punk. did not get to try Hogwarts with it though. I was playing most older games high settings at 1440p to 4k. cyber punk turned it into 1080p card though. just not enough horsepower.
Wow incredible job for this guide. Well done! That help me a lot
Asrock RX 6950 XT oc formula selling for $700 on Newegg. That’s $60 cheaper then what is listed in the video description and it comes with 2 free games. 😮
I got my RX 6700 XT Red Devil for 350$ so glad I did it because I'm not thinking of upgrading anytime soon.
You will see in one or two years how much it will be sufficient and my best guess will be you will need a new graphics card by then, while people that bought much more powerful cards now can lean back for the next 5 years.
What’s funnier is that now, 5 months later, AMD cards have only dropped in cost so much more while Nvidia stagnated. Nothing makes more sense than AMD, and if you enable SAM, keep the card at stable temps like 60-70c, and overclock VRAM, you get a very smooth experience. The drivers aren’t even that bad. For example (in the best improvements you would see), FH4 gets a 25-30% improvement in framerate, with a much more stable frametime (in 1080p, the effect lessens with resolution). Drivers can only get better (most of the time). Intel is also a great competitor to Nvidia now. This means that the gap in value has only increased away from Nvidia.
And also your Target-Framerate is important. A 3060ti won't help me if i wanna get 165fps at 1440p. And then people could argue that everything above that target is wasted but important for smooth gameplay are the 1% lows. I came from a RX6800 to a RX7900XTX and to be honest? Gaming never felt that smooth because i aim for 1440p165 and in many titles my 1% lows are like 160 or sth like that. Even the 6800 was also a very powerful card but dropping 20-30 frames here and there can feel less smooth...
And you should always keep in your mind that a lower tier card may be swapped out quicker. That could have reasons like less VRAM or the pure performance. If you are on a low budget i'd always recommend to get a 6700XT with 12GB VRam instead of a 3070 or 3060Ti with 8GB f.e. I'd even prefer it over a 3060 with 12GB because the 6700XT is just quicker. :)
Just got a prebuilt Lenovo with an r7, 3060ti, 1 tb ss and 16 gb ram for 1099 euro. I'm in The Netherlands so that includes 21% tax. Runs great at 1440p. No need to spend more for me. The upgrade beyond that is so much more expensive for such a relatively small graphical upgrade that I just don't see the point. 😊
So this is what’s recommended for gpus lately. I actually got an Hp Omen 25L pc that has a RX 6600XT gpu, and it works pretty well, though it’s kinda baffling that it’s more expensive yet has a slightly lower frame rate than the 6650XT. Either I’m pretty happy with my computer overall as I can game at 1440p and always have the option to go to 1080p if I ever need to get better performance
Depends on where you are located, in Germany the used market is better for Nvidia Cards.
The 3060 Ti is a tad weaker than 6700 XT in Rasterization, the 3070 a tad stronger.
Both win over the 6700 XT once DLSS or of course RT enters the equation.
The 3070 can be had for like 40 bucks more here in the used market, so it`s easily the best Option for 1080p imo.
Same for the 3080, you can get these for 550€, the 6800XT costs the same, they trade blows depending on the Games, again, when DLSS is at hand, which is very often the case, Nvidia wins and is the better Value. And you actually have the option to use RT as well.
I find it really amazing how spot on the used market usually gets often pricing in the exact performance benefits much more so than new prices, which are whack these days.
This is great work and much appreciated. Thank you.
I will assume that the prices shown are excl any US taxes. If so then for UK market, based on PCPartPicker, it's not as bad as some may think, though the UK is still more expensive. Once you strip the VAT (+20%) and adjust for the currency (1USD = 0.81GBP) the RX6700 is +£15 ($18) but the RX6650XT however is poor value at +£37 ($46). There's only one tier difference in performance but the price variation does not reflect this. I will assume the same is true for other international markets.
I am currently running a GTX 1080 but bought a new monitor a few weeks ago and it struggles to get near the 165Hz the 1440p panel is able to display. Thus I've now ordered an RX7900xtx. The Only choice of Nvidias lineup for me would have been the 4070ti, since the 3000-series cards dont't support dlss3 and still have a high price tag afterall. The 4080/4090 are way too expensive. The AMD card on the other hand gives me a lot of performance for it's (still insanely high) price tag and i am convinced that it will last a few years in contrast to some more budged oriented options.
Great video with lots of data to back up any claims. Earned my sub. :) thank you!
Probably better to give several good recommendations of various prices for 1080p, 1440p, and 4k. Rather than organizing it by price primarily.
Also your "test suite" rating for fps, is skewed very high. Are you testing everything at minimum settings? or is the test suite just cs-go + doom?
Lol what about the GTX 970 superclocked? This card beats all of these especially if you have 2 of them! It beats them all as a bedroom heater that is lol. Cyberpunk 3070 makes a small sun on this SLI lol.
What a video dude... Amazing! Thank you very much!
This channel is a godsend. Thank you so much for sharing all of this research
It is a mistake to accept these prices. Both AMD and NVidia are drunk on crypto pricing. They are both just pushing gamers to console. $500 dollar graphics card is NOT sane to the average. It is BUY a console unless you want to be ripped off.
Going into holidays last winter I picked up a new pc for such an insane value proposition. I was able to get an i712700, 3090 ddr5 pc and lg c2 monitor for under $5000 CAD ($3700 USD)
I got a 3080 for 750 in the summer I'm surprised it went up in price since then, I thought I should have waited
Just found your channel great job looking forward to others thanks!
You know what’s screwed up? The 4090’s price is comparable to the transmission for my car. Between a high end GPU and my means of getting to work, I’m taking the latter lol
Thanks for the video Its really informative.
Im a bit confused since there are many brands in each model Im hesitating between:
-RTX3070 zotac double fan
-RTX3060TI MSI TRIO/gigabyte gaming oc pro
Im a bit concerned about the cooling in the zotac 3070 it runs at 8° more than the gigabyte but also draws 10 to 20 less watts
I have an r5 3600 and a 1080p monitor currently
Got a 7900 XTX for MSRP. I think that's the flaw with this methodology: it's a ton of statistical work, that is only relevant for a very brief period of time. Just one month later and I'm hard-pressed to find a 7900 XTX that's more than $100 over MSRP. I can't even imagine one costing $400 over.
At $1000, it's relatively a very good deal, more-so than the 7900 XT, even though it's still dumbly expensive for a GPU. Just compared to it's competition...
Best analysis on RUclips. Good job!!!
You get to the 4070ti and tell us nothing about it. You just moved straight past it.. what was that about?
Fantastic video. Thank you.
I'm not really a fan of Intel but I think an actual comparison should mention them, especially if you are searching for the most FPS for your money. It looks as if you just ignored them.
I am going to come back in 6 motnhs when the bottom falls out of this stupid train and these companies realise they are doing the exact opposite of bringing in new gamers and customers. My 6700xt and 5700xt will carry on running our pcs for another few years no bother. No gpu is worth a few textures and pixels for a grand more than it is worth
I am gaming ultrawide 4k and still running a RTX 2070 Super and getting roughly 60-70 fps. I want to upgrade but just not seeing any value in doing so until the prices come down for the 40X models. I would prob need to do a full overhaul of MB and CPU as well to accomidate and not bottleneck. Prices are cray rn.
Purchase a zotac rtx 4070 to for 970 here in Costa Rica and sold my old rtx 3080 10gb for 720 dollars, so got the new rtx 4070 ti for $250, really happy with the purchase, new zotac, old zotac haha
Screw buying new cards at those prices, the market is messed up. Bought a 3070 thats just a few months old for less than the 2 first cards you mentioned :P
Otherwise good video with well made comparisons!