I think this kit is actually pretty great for those that are new to makita. You are getting an all metal chuck drill and still great xdt14 impact driver. This will probably be their mid-high tier combo.
I agree that it’s a decent entry. And if you are doing super demanding stuff you are getting premium features and feel without paying full premium prices.
Makita are stubbornly Makita. They don’t get caught up in the race to be the most powerful. They do what they want to do and they do it very well. Nothing flashy but consistently good quality tools.
Great comment and insight festus! Makita reminds me of Nikon; both produce great products in their respective fields, but very arrogant conservative Companies. Hey, Ive owned dozens of Makita products down through the years, but still scratch my head at their ridiculous ‘self imposed’ Ah limit on their 18 VOLT LXT battery capacities? Say hi to Matt chu! 😆👍✌
A video comparing it to the xph12 would be interesting also since that’s what it’s supposedly replacing. Love the size of the xph12 for a daily driver in 90+ percent of tasks.
Thanks for being clear about the other models and what the differences are. My Makita drill finally crapped out so i need a replacement but these model names don't exactly explain the point of each model. I almost bought this one thinking it was an upgraded xph14 and you spared me the heartache.
Yeah. I was certainly expecting something a little more compact. Still a functional drill but it almost felt like it was a gen prior to the 14 instead of a compact counterpart to it. Thanks for the feedback on the graphics also.
Thank you for the helpful review. Was thinking of replacing my XPH14 with XPH16, which hopefully is more compact. It seems that it's not so compact and indeed a weird release.
Thanks for the video, yeah this one is in some weird category between mid and high end drills but still closer to high end in both power and size. But anyways more options are always nice :)
Yeah I think my opinion of it long term will end up as being generally positive but it just fell further from the expectations I had than I expected it would.
Hello. Thanks for the testing. I am looking for input of duration of product life. I see quite a number of "New" XP14 on Ebay which are priced (around $90) slightly above retail for the electronics (stator, rotor, circuit board kit) ($85). I would suggest it is possible for those "New" units without a box to be refurbished units. The label is missing that goes across the both plastic case halves is missing and consistent with my theory. I personally have a parts XPH14 with a bad circuit board. Now I am thinking I might go with the less power drill (XPH16 if it potentially last longer). The parts diagrams show the gear assembly on the XPH16 has a larger profile to support the rotor bearing and the rotor has a longer output shaft (going into the gear assembly). I was seeking / comments from community members on whether they believe XPH16 has lasted them longer than XPH14. Thanks, Justin
The only bit of info i have is that the I have had to have the XPH14 warrantied and it was replaced - the XPH hasn't had any issues but it has also seen less use.
The 16 is newer and more powerful in terms of torque but does have lower RPM so I guess it would depend on which of those is more important to you. I rarely will recommend an older tool over a newer one.
When I saw the video title I also thought they made the replacement to the 14. I sold my 14 off the work van to my helper. I found the 14 to be a bit lacking in concrete and brick compared to my old DeWalt that it replaced. I do still like the xdt16 impact that came in that kit though. For the size they should have included the side handle with the tool.
Yep I was expecting something close to their sub compact size .I have the Dewalt dcd 805 and its poer is darn close to the 999 but much lighter and compact.
I was expecting shorter length but i think they went more of skimming weight so you dont have to reach for the 14 or/also more powerful than a regular drill driver...im sold lol
In an age where most tool manufacturers are making batteries up to and beyond 12ah as well as the new stack lithium batteries....here makita is with an oversized, weaker drill based on a battery line that maxes out at 5 or 6 amp hours and I'm supposed to get excited about that?🙄🙄🙄🙄
Please don’t get me started on the ‘self imposed’ Ah limits of their LXT batteries! Makita takes a very arrogant and limited scope approach to the 18 volt batteries. I sort of understand their position of ‘fitment,’ As larger 21700 celled batteries would not work in some of the tools, and that would piss off users. I have several of the 18V X2 tools, and there is no way bigger batteries would fit, without modifications to the tool. I have had long debates with Makita Techs about the 6.0 Ah limits, and it was very frustrating. The argument always gets like this: “We have the fastest charging system, and you wouldn’t want to put huge batteries on your drill or impact…”. Then they come out with the XGT lineup, and there is a honking 40 volt battery on an impact. Seriously??? Go figure. Peace
i don't know why Makita released this XPH16 instead of not having the handle included May be they want to replace or Update for XPH12 , but if they want to replace the XPH12 they could do another way not to reduced the power on XPH14 and called the Compact Hammer Drill
It was several times that night that I would confuse one for the other. That’s how similar they look. The side handle occlusion was a little bit odd for me especially since it has a place for it.
I Don't think it's compact enough, but that's just Me. I'd like to see it go up against the DeWalt dcd805 hammer drill , which I think is the Best Compact drill on the market right now ....... 👍🖖
Makita lxt needs to let there drill be able to actually have more power and not set limits so low look at the Milwaukee for instance its substantially smaller and way more powerful without hindering power Makita xph14 is a good refined drill i like to compare it to matabo hpt 36v but smaller.
It will be interesting to see what they do when we do get a replacement for the XPH14. Will it be a modest improvement or will it take more the route they go with the impacts where power levels haven’t changed much in a few years. There tools are very nice to use.
It’s definitely a powerful drill. From watching this video it seems stronger than most drills ive personally used. I just don’t see a point in it unless you’re just starting, or its on sale for good price. Sure its slightly smaller and lighter, but I personally wouldn’t buy it, mainly because the price difference isn’t that much, and the performance relative to cost difference the xph14 is the better value
I really don't know what they were going for other than to have another drill at another price point to entice buyers. It's a more capable tool than the outgoing "compact" model it supposed replaces but it's not class leading in compactness.
That is confusing lol. Why, from a marketing standpoint, would they do that? That little bit of difference from big brother in size isn’t what I’d refer to as compact. Like you, my mind went to the new Dewalt xr. THAT is a more compact drill. I wouldn’t mind making a concession in power for that big of a difference in size. 900 plus inch pounds is still pretty powerful, but I’d expect to see more size dropped off before I’d switch from the full size.
@@TinkerWithTools personally, if I’m marketing something as more compact, I’d prefer it to be at least 15-20% more compact, enough to feel a real world difference. Don’t get me wrong, it seems like a great drill, but that’s not a feature I’d hang my hat on lol.
I'm good with Makita XPH-14 the tool is Compact enough for me. Actually what I'm really after when it comes to Hammer Drill is the Power and The BPM rating. So Far Flex 24V is still leading in the Hammer Drill category it's got 40,000 BPM compare to the new Milwaukee's Gen4 Hammer Drill that only have 33,000, The DeWalt Flexvolt only have 38,000. So Flex is still the fastest when it comes to drilling in concrete. But I don't use my Flex 24V tools that much it's only for Show Off Force with Milwaukee fanboys in the jobsite. What I always use in the jobsite is Makita and Bosch, I ditched all of my DeWalt cordless tools I sold all of them and made a switch to Makita XGT 40V and 80V Line. I got like 74 DeWalt cordless tools in 20V platform and I got the 20V batteries that I haven't been using and they're sealed in the original packaging and I sold them all and bought some Makita XGT tools and some LXT and CXT's But I'm still keeping my old DeWalt corded 12inch miter saw (non Sliding)
I feel like their was a way better tool they could have come out with. Maybe upgrade their 12v line, or maybe even some newer batteries. This just didnt seem like a worthwhile drill to release. Seems just like a slightly weaker and cheaper version of the 14. Not a huge gap they filled.
I agree with you to a degree. I think the hard thing I have is that the number convention makes it difficult to understand to someone who is not well versed. I could see someone buying this thinking it’s a newer version of the top drill and then being disappointed when they find out it’s not. But for someone who doesn’t need to the top drill this is a nice premium option that doesn’t go all the way to the top. But compact it is not IMO.
@@TinkerWithTools very true about the number convention! Milwaukee has a basic tier system, dewalt has a complicated tier system they don't even stick to lol, and makita just kinda has one 18v line that just kinda step ladders up as the quality and price increases.
XPH16 is a replacement for XPH12 not XPH14 - just look at the specs. Makita could've at least fix the poor LED placement and go with LED mounted in the base, not below the chuck. Go figure.
Yeah, I was expecting more out of this... but so far I have only measured the performance as it relates to the XPH14... maybe when it put it against different competition it will shine differently.
Sometimes I wonder what Makita is thinking when releasing a new tool. They got so many nearly similar tools and noone understands why they exist. Instead they could release tools that are still missing in the lineup.
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Man I so appreciate you comparing and explaining how and where each drill sits within the brands line up. Thanks againv
Glad it's helpful. Thanks for watching!
I think this kit is actually pretty great for those that are new to makita. You are getting an all metal chuck drill and still great xdt14 impact driver. This will probably be their mid-high tier combo.
I agree that it’s a decent entry. And if you are doing super demanding stuff you are getting premium features and feel without paying full premium prices.
Makita are stubbornly Makita. They don’t get caught up in the race to be the most powerful. They do what they want to do and they do it very well. Nothing flashy but consistently good quality tools.
I get what you are saying. They are times where I wish they were a little less stubborn but overall I think it’s generally a positive thing.
Great comment and insight festus! Makita reminds me of Nikon; both produce great products in their respective fields, but very arrogant conservative Companies. Hey, Ive owned dozens of Makita products down through the years, but still scratch my head at their ridiculous ‘self imposed’ Ah limit on their 18 VOLT LXT battery capacities? Say hi to Matt chu! 😆👍✌
A video comparing it to the xph12 would be interesting also since that’s what it’s supposedly replacing. Love the size of the xph12 for a daily driver in 90+ percent of tasks.
Yeah. I have never owned an XPH12. Seems like a quality drill but this 16 seems to be a closer step up to the 14 in my opinion.
Thanks for being clear about the other models and what the differences are. My Makita drill finally crapped out so i need a replacement but these model names don't exactly explain the point of each model. I almost bought this one thinking it was an upgraded xph14 and you spared me the heartache.
Glad I could help!
What a weird drill. Honestly not sure why this one exists. Love the new graphics in the video by the way.
Yeah. I was certainly expecting something a little more compact. Still a functional drill but it almost felt like it was a gen prior to the 14 instead of a compact counterpart to it.
Thanks for the feedback on the graphics also.
Thank you for the helpful review. Was thinking of replacing my XPH14 with XPH16, which hopefully is more compact. It seems that it's not so compact and indeed a weird release.
It is more compact but I just don’t feel it’s by a meaningful amount.
Thanks for the testing. I think it's more like a upgraded version of xph12? I'll keep my xph14 and waiting for the new version
Yeah that the best guess.
Thanks for the video, yeah this one is in some weird category between mid and high end drills but still closer to high end in both power and size. But anyways more options are always nice :)
Yeah I think my opinion of it long term will end up as being generally positive but it just fell further from the expectations I had than I expected it would.
Hello. Thanks for the testing. I am looking for input of duration of product life. I see quite a number of "New" XP14 on Ebay which are priced (around $90) slightly above retail for the electronics (stator, rotor, circuit board kit) ($85). I would suggest it is possible for those "New" units without a box to be refurbished units. The label is missing that goes across the both plastic case halves is missing and consistent with my theory. I personally have a parts XPH14 with a bad circuit board. Now I am thinking I might go with the less power drill (XPH16 if it potentially last longer). The parts diagrams show the gear assembly on the XPH16 has a larger profile to support the rotor bearing and the rotor has a longer output shaft (going into the gear assembly). I was seeking / comments from community members on whether they believe XPH16 has lasted them longer than XPH14. Thanks, Justin
The only bit of info i have is that the I have had to have the XPH14 warrantied and it was replaced - the XPH hasn't had any issues but it has also seen less use.
What would be better for you bro between the xph12z and this xph16z? The main use being that I need it for to drill holes in steel
The 16 is newer and more powerful in terms of torque but does have lower RPM so I guess it would depend on which of those is more important to you. I rarely will recommend an older tool over a newer one.
When I saw the video title I also thought they made the replacement to the 14.
I sold my 14 off the work van to my helper. I found the 14 to be a bit lacking in concrete and brick compared to my old DeWalt that it replaced. I do still like the xdt16 impact that came in that kit though.
For the size they should have included the side handle with the tool.
I also have found it to be lacking for masonry especially against the competition or flex, Milwaukee and DEWALT.
Yep I was expecting something close to their sub compact size .I have the Dewalt dcd 805 and its poer is darn close to the 999 but much lighter and compact.
Yeah the 800/805 is the gold standard of compact yet powerful.
I was expecting shorter length but i think they went more of skimming weight so you dont have to reach for the 14 or/also more powerful than a regular drill driver...im sold lol
It is lighter but still not light as most compacts. The real question will be if it’s stronger than most compacts
Cool...,I know I've pretty much changed my light duty drilling apps to my compact hpt...definitely gonna compare their weights to power...
Does Makita have different type number voor usa ?
Is this machine dhp486 for Europe?
The 486 is equivalent to the XPH14 and is their top LXT model. This new XPH16 is equivalent to the 489 from what I can tell.
In an age where most tool manufacturers are making batteries up to and beyond 12ah as well as the new stack lithium batteries....here makita is with an oversized, weaker drill based on a battery line that maxes out at 5 or 6 amp hours and I'm supposed to get excited about that?🙄🙄🙄🙄
Please don’t get me started on the ‘self imposed’ Ah limits of their LXT batteries! Makita takes a very arrogant and limited scope approach to the 18 volt batteries. I sort of understand their position of ‘fitment,’ As larger 21700 celled batteries would not work in some of the tools, and that would piss off users. I have several of the 18V X2 tools, and there is no way bigger batteries would fit, without modifications to the tool.
I have had long debates with Makita Techs about the 6.0 Ah limits, and it was very frustrating. The argument always gets like this: “We have the fastest charging system, and you wouldn’t want to put huge batteries on your drill or impact…”. Then they come out with the XGT lineup, and there is a honking 40 volt battery on an impact. Seriously??? Go figure. Peace
Cool review👍
Thanks!
Does this have a kickback feature?
Not that I am aware of.
xph 16 is the only model has metal gear housing. i broke my xph 12 gear and my friend broke xph 14 gear was pretty new , wish own a milwaukee system
i don't know why Makita released this XPH16 instead of not having the handle included
May be they want to replace or Update for XPH12 , but if they want to replace the XPH12 they could do another way not to reduced the power on XPH14 and called the Compact Hammer Drill
It was several times that night that I would confuse one for the other. That’s how similar they look. The side handle occlusion was a little bit odd for me especially since it has a place for it.
I Don't think it's compact enough, but that's just Me. I'd like to see it go up against the DeWalt dcd805 hammer drill , which I think is the Best Compact drill on the market right now ....... 👍🖖
I’ve got that one on the list for sure.
Makita lxt needs to let there drill be able to actually have more power and not set limits so low look at the Milwaukee for instance its substantially smaller and way more powerful without hindering power Makita xph14 is a good refined drill i like to compare it to matabo hpt 36v but smaller.
It will be interesting to see what they do when we do get a replacement for the XPH14. Will it be a modest improvement or will it take more the route they go with the impacts where power levels haven’t changed much in a few years. There tools are very nice to use.
It’s definitely a powerful drill. From watching this video it seems stronger than most drills ive personally used. I just don’t see a point in it unless you’re just starting, or its on sale for good price. Sure its slightly smaller and lighter, but I personally wouldn’t buy it, mainly because the price difference isn’t that much, and the performance relative to cost difference the xph14 is the better value
that's pretty much where I land with it. It either needed to be a lot smaller or a bit cheaper.
nice video, look like makita cutting corner maybe to save some money.
I really don't know what they were going for other than to have another drill at another price point to entice buyers. It's a more capable tool than the outgoing "compact" model it supposed replaces but it's not class leading in compactness.
I would have preferred an updated XPH12. Its the one i use the most. The 14 is heavy and i only use it for bigger hole saws.
I think that’s what this aims to replace but it’s more like the 14.
@@TinkerWithTools Yes, it should have been half the size is what I'm getting at. Seems like a useless release.
Yeah this one has failed to impress me much.
That is confusing lol. Why, from a marketing standpoint, would they do that? That little bit of difference from big brother in size isn’t what I’d refer to as compact. Like you, my mind went to the new Dewalt xr. THAT is a more compact drill. I wouldn’t mind making a concession in power for that big of a difference in size. 900 plus inch pounds is still pretty powerful, but I’d expect to see more size dropped off before I’d switch from the full size.
That’s pretty similar to what I feel. I don’t want to sacrifice power for the small decrease in size.
@@TinkerWithTools personally, if I’m marketing something as more compact, I’d prefer it to be at least 15-20% more compact, enough to feel a real world difference. Don’t get me wrong, it seems like a great drill, but that’s not a feature I’d hang my hat on lol.
I'm good with Makita XPH-14 the tool is Compact enough for me. Actually what I'm really after when it comes to Hammer Drill is the Power and The BPM rating. So Far Flex 24V is still leading in the Hammer Drill category it's got 40,000 BPM compare to the new Milwaukee's Gen4 Hammer Drill that only have 33,000, The DeWalt Flexvolt only have 38,000. So Flex is still the fastest when it comes to drilling in concrete.
But I don't use my Flex 24V tools that much it's only for Show Off Force with Milwaukee fanboys in the jobsite. What I always use in the jobsite is Makita and Bosch, I ditched all of my DeWalt cordless tools I sold all of them and made a switch to Makita XGT 40V
and 80V Line. I got like 74 DeWalt cordless tools in 20V platform and I got the 20V batteries that I haven't been using and they're sealed in the original packaging and I sold them all and bought some Makita XGT tools and some LXT and CXT's
But I'm still keeping my old DeWalt corded 12inch miter saw (non Sliding)
XGT has some incredible tools. I know that they are expensive but they really just work well.
The 16 is 1.1lbs lighter than the 14. Aux side handle is rarely used....I"m okay that it is omitted to keep the cost down
It’s not 1.1 lbs lighter. It’s only 5 ounces. I weight both tool only for the video.
I feel like their was a way better tool they could have come out with. Maybe upgrade their 12v line, or maybe even some newer batteries. This just didnt seem like a worthwhile drill to release. Seems just like a slightly weaker and cheaper version of the 14. Not a huge gap they filled.
I agree with you to a degree. I think the hard thing I have is that the number convention makes it difficult to understand to someone who is not well versed. I could see someone buying this thinking it’s a newer version of the top drill and then being disappointed when they find out it’s not. But for someone who doesn’t need to the top drill this is a nice premium option that doesn’t go all the way to the top. But compact it is not IMO.
@@TinkerWithTools very true about the number convention! Milwaukee has a basic tier system, dewalt has a complicated tier system they don't even stick to lol, and makita just kinda has one 18v line that just kinda step ladders up as the quality and price increases.
XPH16 is a replacement for XPH12 not XPH14 - just look at the specs. Makita could've at least fix the poor LED placement and go with LED mounted in the base, not below the chuck. Go figure.
Correct I mention this towards the end of the video.
I love makita, but sometimes I question why they do what they do 😆
Yeah, I was expecting more out of this... but so far I have only measured the performance as it relates to the XPH14... maybe when it put it against different competition it will shine differently.
Sometimes I wonder what Makita is thinking when releasing a new tool. They got so many nearly similar tools and noone understands why they exist. Instead they could release tools that are still missing in the lineup.
I think it comes down to new drills and impacts seem to sell well but at some point they should be plugging holes in the lineup too.
how good are makita drills when they jam
The LXT drills don't have any anti-kickback protection that they mention.
Like Jelly