Being with Matika subcompact drill over 3 years, I would say this is the slimiest compare to others, you don't need tons of power if you chose the small drill, compact drill designed for work at tight area also lower your weight at your toolbelt or box. I use this drill for 3mm to 6mm timber drilling everyday and reseating the hot and cold outlet with a fantastic result. I do have XGT hammer drill if I use for hole saw cut or another application need high torque
That's not a bad philosophy to use. Like I said, it's a nice drill to use, the other compacts on the table just allow you to do that and do some heavier duty work as well.
Great video thank you. I absolutely agree 18v tools like these are making the case for 12v tools harder and harder. I love the 1.7ah Dewalt Powerstack too and think Milwaukee urgently need an equivalent. That said my choice is the Metabo HPT DEX. If I need more power I’ll reach for my Dewalt DCD805 or my Milwaukee Fuel gen 4. But I love the lightweight, superb ergonomics of the Metabo HPT offering and that’s my go to. Good to know it steps up in performance when paired with a bigger battery so I might try the new 4.0ah which is still one row of cells and thus reasonably compact.
I considered buying the new 4ah battery, even thought about getting it for this video to keep the weight down but the reviews on the battery weren't great, so I held off to do some more research on it.
There are a few reasons. Power wise it’s up significantly on every drill here. It’s roughly 800 in-lbs which tops the flex by 150. While pretty compact it is a heavier drill. So with the focus being more on the compact class I decided not to include it. Now with that said, I did test it in all the same categories (the M18 fuel as well) and it was pretty dominant. It bested the flex and the Milwaukee compacts by approximately 30%. I originally filmed a segment at the end about more premium options but given the video was going to be over 20 minutes and that I have several videos talking about it already, I chose to cut that segment. It’s a good option though especially if you already on DEWALTs platform.
Can’t say how the newer Bosh is but I have DDS181A older brushed model. Its been a great drill over the years and the batteries are some of the best on the market. They seem to last better than any other brands I have used. I still use the 2 and 1.5 ah batteries that came with my older kits have 3 4 I bought when they first came out with the power core they still going strong.
That is so interesting that the Milwaukee has that slippery chuck. My Gen 2 M12 had a similar slippery chuck, but they fixed it with the Gen 3. I wonder why they didn't do the same for the M18.
I have the gen 2 and I think this one might be a little worse. This seems to be the same chuck as they have on the brushes m12 tools almost. As for why they do this I am guessing just to maintain distance between this and their fuel models.
I would like to try that new Bosch. I purchased that dcd799 recently on sale at HD for home use but out of the box it sounded like something was lose inside and the chuck was not good at all. Excellent video. The Hilti SF4-22 would be a nice contender.
The Hilti has been considered and I will probably buy it at some point but at 7.1” long it’s bigger than any drill here while not being a hammer drill. Not a bad drill I am sure it just didn’t feel like it fit this compact category. Similar would be the Makita XPH16 which is basically the same size as their flagship XPH14 but with less power.
I've been using corded Bosch blue for 25+yrs without 1 failure. At my job, over time we used Dewalt, Panasonic, Hitachi and Makita cordless tools. All performed flawlessly but have their pro's and con's. For home use I got a hold of a Milwaukee set because i got a great deal on it but if I had to start over again: Hitachi/Hikoki cordless stuff is amazing and not just for the price.
I bought the Bosch non-hammer first and returned it because Amazon sent me a used drill. But I had a chance to try it before sending it back and noticed it had a lot of vibration and runout compared to it's little brother (the brushless 12v 5-in-1 that you also tested). I then bought the Milwaukee to compare and it too has more vibration and runout, however, it has far less than the larger Bosch. It is a very smooth drill for the type and a steal at $99 at Home Depot. Everything you said about the drills is true. If I wasn't needing a very smooth drill working with the Parf Guide Mark II jig I am using for drilling 20mm x 96mm holes for a woodworking bench the precision would not have mattered (I would have been fine with my 12v Bosch, but this Milwaukee is actually a better drill for this work in my opinion because of how much smoother it is. These holes are not going to just be for holding work. There also to set up precise mitered angles, where slight variances add up exponentially with the length of the work. Anyway, thanks again for the review. Had I not watched this, I might have had to go through more drill options before landing on the Milwaukee.
Very detailed video breakdown of these Compact drills. One information note and suggestion. Bosch has new Tabless technology ProCore 18V plus Batteries came out last year November and released in Early March to market globally, with substantial extra runtime and of course, power. You should do research on it and check it out. Much respect as always for your great work.
Yes someone pointed that in the comment earlier today. From what I can tell it’s available in Europe but not yet where I am located. I’m excited for the what it could mean though.
@@TinkerWithTools Oh okay, maybe when you do, it will be a great video as i am excited also for this great battery and believe you would not be disappointed. Much respect,sir.
I went to HD to buy the Milwaukee compact drill. I was surprised and disappointed at the same time. It was really compact and cheap looking and felt it too. Went to Lowe's looked at the Flex, Dewalt, Metabo Hpt. Bosch wasn't even available. Ended up getting the Metabo HPT DS 18DEX. It looked and felt great in my hands and powerful it was also on sale for $99 kit. I also picked up the18v triple hammer bolt. Thanks for your informative reviews on both
Yeah, the DCD800 was tested in the same tests, as was the full size Gen 4 Fuel drill from Milwaukee... both of them put up some impressive numbers for sure.
Yeah jason, I see what You and ‘Tinker’ are referring to, but I am not so sure it is all about how ‘slippery’ it is, but rather, how freaking tight it holds onto the bit!? Milwaukee had a lot of complaints about loose chucks in the past. My personal experience with this new M18 Compact ( Yes, I just picked one up ) is that the chuck holds onto the bit excessively tight, so that releasing it to change out bits, etc, is very hard. That is where the grip on the chuck is a problem. Chuck runs very true! Awesome little drill. High pitched motor noise, and the one I bought sounds like the motor/ control chip may be faulty? It does not sound ‘right?’ And when using the VS it makes a weird clicking sound? I cannot believe it is normal? It really does spin a drill bit, especially a smaller auger or Bosch daredevil type bit! But it will be going back, as the motor or something is off? Take care!
I think I'm going with the Bosch drill/driver (not the hammer drill). I watched a Bosch video recently and they said that Röhm even makes the drill chuck on the Flexiclick version. That really is a nice drill.
I haven't seen good reviews of the battery. Several reviews saying that it has failed after only a few cycles. That's left me a little hesitant to purchase. Let me know if you pick it up though.
@@TinkerWithToolsThanks for that tip. I probably won't get the 4ah--I have many 5 and 8ah batteries. Don't need another drill, either, but would still go 1. Metabo HPT 2. M18 3. Bosch from these choices. I'd go DCD800 before any of those, though. It will be interesting to see how the new Dewalt impacts (860 and 870) perform, my OG Hitachi Triple Hammer still works great for me. @TinkerWithTools
The dewalt 100 year anniversary drill is in my mind pro-sumer at a product levelig price. It didn't i press me at all. But the dcd800 is a phenomenal drill driver in every way. 791 is of course also a great drill that often sells cheap with battery rebates.
Back in the day Panasonic had nice tools not compact but I recently I saw them on a job site didn’t know they still made tools, maybe at some point you could do a video on them
I have both the DCD794 and Ridgid sub-compact. I really like both oof them as far as ergonomics and power. The slow ramp up of the Ridgid took some getting used to for sure. Dewalt hands down has the best triggers in the business in my opinion. If I need more power I either grab my DCD791, Hercules Brushless or Flex Turbo Hammer Drill. Great video keep em coming!
Thanks! The DEWALT trigger surprised me how much I liked it when testing others back to back. I never felt it was bad but I wouldn’t have guessed that would be my pick necessarily
Tinker With Tools !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LUV this Guy, LUV this Channel! Hey my man, a little light bulb went on in my head, and I had an idea for a video; What effect, if any, these newer batteries would have on older tools? Not claiming any originality here mind ya, but I am a bit curious what one of the PowerStack batteries would have on an older DeWalt, a Forge on an older Milwaukee, etc etc. Someone may have done this or similar, but they ain’t You! 😊 Just a dim thought…
The new Metabo HPT 18V is the best I really drill for performance, price etc The Ridgid trigger has the best control trigger and the little Metabo HPT is great for small jobs and so low priced with extra batteries I got one for all the ladies in my life and they live it, does all they need and I have a couple set up with specific pre hole bits for cabinet making I just don't like.the ergonomics on the Dewalts and as a previous mostly Milwaukee guy I can't justify the over price for not enough gain on many of there tools
I may continue to sound like a fanboy, but this little drill as a whole package is the best tool I bought last year. Kickback on a button and 2000rpm in a subcompact with a premium Roehm chuck and mechanical clutch? Like who's gonna top that anytime soon? Power for this size is not a concern in any way, it's plenty strong.
Don't downsell Boschs performance either: until literally this week, when it got bumped by an as-yet-unannounced new Dewalt drill, the Bosch flagship 18v drill topped the performance chart on TTC by some margin. That thing is a beast.
@napoleonsmith7793 fast definitely is good in many situations. Having an impact with the power to go fast when you want, but the trigger control to go slow when needed, is key. If a driver gives you control simply because it lacks the power to do speed, it's really taking away capability. Aside from that, if you really need precision in a driving application, the ideal tool is something direct drive like an installation driver or a drill driver.
Superb review, very helpful. Question - why does the Bosch have a slight angle to it? How the head is "angled up" a bit like what you see on the M12 drills. Also crazy that the Milwaukee is both the smallest overall, AND had the fastest overall performance, beating out even that 24v Flex. I'm getting one soon.
I don't know that I have anything definitive on the why... but I would guess that they feel it's better ergonomically. If it will at a direct right angle, it would likely put your wrist at an awkward angle for prolonged use. Have it canted a little bit would make it more natural. That's a guess on my part... but it's what makes the most sense to me. As for the Milwaukee, it was a surprising performer for sure.
I have the Bosch and in my opinion the angle is to make the drill a little more stable when using the small "Locking Bit Holder Attachment". The other larger chucks are too heavy with the batteries that come with it because the drill is so light (making it top heavy). There is a 6Ah battery available for it that's almost a hundred dollars after tax. This is a little pricey, but it has a base that I believe will allow the drill to stand up with the other attachments. It's not worth the money for me because I just lay it down. I don't have a demanding work flow, so I really don't need the extra power and runtime of the 6Ah battery.
I just wanted to let everyone know about something I saw today. Milwaukee released a new compact M18 hammer drill that is rated at 600 inch pounds. It only comes in a 4 tool combo right now, but it will be available in a combo with a 3 speed compact impact driver soon. I literally watched the TTI rep open the box and put it on display.
So it looks like this is just the hammer drill that I mentioned (but didn't have to test) in this video. It's rated at 550 in-lbs (like the drill driver) but comes in 0.1" longer. So I would anticipate the performance being the same as the drill driver, just with the hammer drill function as well. The three speed impact is one I have considered testing, but since all it gains is the modes over the variable speed only model. I opted to not purchase both.
@@TinkerWithTools The hammer drill is rated at 600 inch pounds, not 550. Have you ever tried the 750 inch pound hammer drill that comes with an auxiliary handle?
I can see on that specific combo they list it at 600 but on the invidual product page, the 3602-20 is listed at 550. I tried to see if in their initial marketing they listed anything different and I don't see it, so it just seems like they have conflicting info on the product pages... As for the 750 in-lbs model, I never have tried it. I used the drill driver version which is rated for less. but never bought the hammer drill.
What to pick as a first home power tool? I mentally trust Marita for consistency and quality but also like dcd800/805from dewolt. This is will be my first investment into the system.
@@TinkerWithTools I was in a comment of another of your great videos with a set of 288t from Makita. Do you think DeWalt is still the better option? Like DCK299M2 or for my beginning need dcd800/805 more than enough? I’m trying to consider building a system where I can use the garden and cleaning staff tog
The Makita set would be full size drill and an impact so they are going to have a bit more performance and will be able to more comfortably tackle larger tasks. But if you aren’t doing that sort of stuff i prefer the 800/805 to just about every other drill except on larger or more demanding tasks.
I have most of these compacts and my only complaints are the underpowered little Metabo subcompact and SUPER noisy larger compact. Favorite would be Milwaukee or Flex. I also like the Snap On 14.4 screwdriver although that’s sort of a different category
I have considered getting the snap-on but the $300 tool only price is a deterrent for sure. For what's it's worth, I still like the loud Metabo, but I just wouldn't pick it for working inside a cabinet or something like that.
It's tiny so I guess I haven't really noticed the balance... other than when putting a stupidly large battery on it. I don't have issues with the M18 Fuel balance though and think that it's fine.
@@TinkerWithTools I usually drill parallel to the ground, which means I’m holding the drill like a pistol. When I do that, the M18 Fuel feels forward heavy. It’s especially noticeable when I use a longer drill bit. Anyway, I held the compact drill today, and it’s pretty comfortable in my hand.
The thing about replacing the chuck on the Milwaukee is finding one even remotely close to how short and snub nosed it is. I call mine my m18 .357 😂 I’ve had quite a few drills myself over the years and it’s by far the shortest one I’ve seen.
The one I have purchased is going to be a little less than 1/4" longer hopefully. So it will no longer be the shortest but I think it might be worth it.
So I’ll have a video out later but I chuck swapped it! The one I bought initially didn’t work but ended up stealing the one from my M12 Fuel drill. A replacement drill was cheaper than an authentic Milwaukee chuck. And to make things even better it’s actually a shorter drill now because the m12 chuck was a bit smaller than the M18.
Thanks for the ‘hearts’ on my comments ‘Tinker!’ I discovered a ‘problem’ with the chuck today, sadly, on the M18 compact. I was drilling with a smooth reduced shank 1/2” wood bit, and it slipped in the chuck! I had been experimenting with not tightening the chuck down so hard, but even with really cranking down, the bit hit a tough spot in the wood ( only drilling through 2X material, ) and spun on the shaft! No bueno! 😮 DEAL Breaker for me. They make a really small chuck, that is hard to grip, and then it is hard to loosen it, and then to top it off, wont secure down on a drill bit smooth shank?! Geesh! I wanted to like this little drill. It has “Heart!” Sure, it could be an isolated incident, but has anyone else had this issue? Tinker??
I haven't experienced any issues with slipping, or with not being able to loosen the bit, I just found that I didn't like to use the chuck because of the slippery quality that I described in the video, making it difficult to tighten down properly. Once I get it tighened down I have had no issues. And well Spoiler alert to when I can get around to making a video I have chuck swapped this drill with the M12 Fuel chuck, and it got a lot nicer to use. I still have old chuck on the M12 Fuel Hammer drill that I sacrificed for this experiment but I have since replaced that with a new M12 Fuel Hammer Drill (it was roughly the same price as just buying the chuck) so I will likely donate that M12 Mutant to my brother in short order. If anyone else has any experience with it, I would encourage them to comment too. I can't say it performed poorly, I just didn't like to use it.
@@TinkerWithTools Funny thing is I had no problem tightening it down, but it was a PITA to get loosened? Slippage on a bit is a No GO however. I’m sure it is an isolated incident. It is a heckuva little beast tho! I think mine was a Monday/ Friday drill, Made in Mexico. And it makes an awful noise at times, akin to when a Formula 1 car bumps up into the Rev limiter. Something going on in the motor? No matter, it is going back. I wanted to try it, but now wont buy it. 🙄
They are good tool likes but the Hercules for one would be the largest drill here. They call their drill a compact drill but it’s not really on the same class as these tools in my opinion.
i agree with you. Some companies are stating a class where other companies are just saying, "smaller than the last one we made"... so it can get confusing. I like both the Bauer and the Hercules though... they are definite improvements in the Harbor Freight lines and no longer just one job tools.
Hey bro, great video as usual! This compact segment is really opening up which is great for all of us. Did you happen to test drilling and driving tasks on a Forge or 6.0HO? I'm curious if the compact M18 sees similar performance gains as the Metabo HPT and Flex on their bigger/higher performance batteries. These compacts are powerful enough I'd not be surprised to see significant voltage sag on the 5S 1P configuration in that 3.0HO, even with the 21700s (it's also clear to me Milwaukee needs to do a small Forge to keep being competitive in this new market segment).
I didn’t run it on that simply because at that point it starts to feel like an anchor on the bottom of the tool. I may have to test in a future video but given that it was the performance winner in the normal testing even against drills with more performance on paper I feel it was sufficient for the testing.
@TinkerWithTools that's fair and yeah, 6ah isn't really ideal in the field lol. I'm just curious if it sees the same or similar performance bump as the gen3/4 fuel drills when on a multi-row 21700 or stacked cell battery as a rough indicator of what performance gains we could see with a small (2 or 3ah) Forge battery in the future.
I have skil 12v stuff. but I haven't purchased any of their 20v stuff as of yet. As for Panasonic, they are increasingly difficult to get the batteries/chargers where I live. I can purchase the tools easy enough, but importing batteries is more difficult.
Hey bro I kid you not masterforce from Menards. They have really decent power tools for tbe price id say they are at least on par maybe even a hair above kobalt,Robin etc. They have have a compact line impact driver,drill , hammer drill,I have the hammer not bad. They've got a full lineup hell they come out with thier 2 Gen hydraulic pulse driver last year. Nobody else in the last few years has had the balls to challenge Milwaukee on that. Clarify they are not my go-tos but if they had to be they'd get the job done. Great show buddy
The DCD800 is a great drill but there were a few factors that made it so I didn't include it. One, the power is a good bit higher than most of the drills. Dewalt UK lists it at roughly 800 in-lbs vs flex being the highest here at 650 in-lbs. Nothing wrong with a drill being more powerful but then you also have the weight. it's about 1/2 lb heavier than the DCD794, which for weight is already above the average in this class. Lastly, it's a bit longer than most of these drills. So with all of that, it just feels like it's more in a different class than truly competing here. But to give you an idea of where it would rate, it would take the crown. I ran it through the same tests and it was certainly the top performers.
@@TinkerWithTools thanks for the reply, I recently decided to upgrade from my old 12v drill and was watching many videos including yours. Thanks for all the useful info
Here in EU we have the Skil 3065, 155mm, 900g, 60nm on 500rpm low. (475UWO?) Would be nice to compare as a budget alternative. What can the US name be on that model.
If Milwaukee could come out with a small surge battery, their compact would be the best. I own the Milwaukee and have used the Makita and Dewalt. The problem besides the slippery chuck is the battery size and weight. I think most people buy compacts for that reason, not power. Like I said, if Milwaukee came out with a 1.7 surge, it would be the best, in my opinion. For now, i got Makita #1, Dewalt #2, and Milwaukee #3.
I am guessing you mean the Forge battery. I agree on that aspect...I would love for them to bring a small form factor Forge battery but I don't seeing it happening with their 3.0 HO and the fact that they seem focused on the higher end of batteries for their future releases.
I'm confused with Bosch's offerings. Is the GSR18V-535 replacing the Bosch GSR18V-800CN even though the latter appears to have slightly better specs? I can't find the 800 series on Bosch's website under drill/drivers; I can only find it searching for the specific model number. The 800 series is slightly shorter in length and has slightly more torque. Copilot (which is totally unreliable) not surprisingly said the 800 was released first, but it would appear to be going slightly backwards in features. Am I missing something?
Hmm... The Milwaukee kit is currently on sale for $99 at Home Depot. However, I just found the Metabo HPT kit for $130 on Amazon. And the Metabo kit comes with an impact driver! As well as a TWO 2.0Ah batteries.. Which should I go for? I like Milwaukee a lot, but I'm really leaning towards the Metabo for sheer value.
I’ll have that Metabo kit and really like it as well. You really won’t go wrong with either. Metabo HPT offers a lot of good value on their platform and you can routinely find sales on Amazon and such on their tools. For values sake that would be the choice. But if that’s not as big of concern well then you could really choose either and be happy.
It seems like the Milwaukee is the better drill overall, which is the main tool I need. The main reason that's making me want to get the Metabo kit is that it comes with an impact driver. It is a tough choice and I think I will lose a few hairs over it lol
I love the Milwaukee drill but I don’t love the chuck on it. It holds okay but it’s a bit slippery on the outside. I made a video on how I swapped it because I disliked it that much. So almost all of the drill is superior but the chuck is nicer on the Metabo.
Hey thanks for replying. I appreciate it. What's confusing us that the Metabo is rated higher in both torque (in-lbs) and RPM, yet the Milwaukee was a LOT faster in actual testing. Are the Metabo specs just marketing..? Also it seems like the light on the Metabo is a little bigger and/or brighter than the light on the M18? And it looks like more of a pure or even bluish white, whereas the M18's has a very slight yellow tint. Could you comment at all on that?
I'll check the lights and get back to you. As for the ratings. i almost feel that the Milwaukee is underrated if anything. The Metabo compares to the flex which is rated similarly quite well. At the end of the day all the specs are just marketing but I have found that they are all in the same ball park for the most part.
so i want get new line of tools, not sure to go with atomic i like their size, currently have m18 brush they need be updated but torn between staying or line
Between Milwaukee and DEWALT they are both solid platforms. I don’t love the atomic drills but I love the compact XR drills. More compact than brushed M18 while being more powerful. But that would require you to get new batteries and chargers etc. between atomic drills and the new compact brushless M18 I would choose M18. But honestly you would do well with either choice.
The drill/driver model number is 3601-20 for the bare tool. They then have 3601-21 and 3601-22 kits. The hammer drill versions are the same but 3602 instead of 01.
@@TinkerWithTools wow! Do you think Bosch and Milwaukee measure torque and speed differently? Given their published specs and the results of your testing, though both did well, it seems Bosch may have over promised and Milwaukee over delivered. If I remember correctly, Milwaukee publishes 550 ft. lbs. and 1700 RPMs while Bosch claims 565 and 2100 RPMs! Why do you think that is? If I remember correctly, some like that happened with the 12v Bosch and the Festool CXS 12. At the time I contributed that to the ladder’s in-line c-shape design, but maybe is is more than that.
Not really sure on this one. If anything I think that the Milwaukee might just be underrated on its torque figure compared to the others. It just seems to keep on pushing even if it feels like it might stall.
@@TinkerWithTools I was surprised to see the one Home Depot sent me was made in Mexico. The one I saw in the store was made in China but the hammer version was Mexico.
I don't have the hammer drill version, so perhaps that is just the difference. I know they have some manufacturing in other parts of the world but most tools that I have are made in China.
@@TinkerWithTools No need to respond - just want to clarify, In Home Depot, on display, the hammer version was made in Mexico, the non-hammer was made in China. I purchased the non-hammer version online and the one they sent me happened to also be made in Mexico.
The Hercules is a decently compact drill but the drill driver is 7.18" in length which would have been more than 3/4" longer than the biggest drill here and 1 1/2" longer than the smallest. So while it's a compact full size drill, I would put it in the same class as these drills.
Your breakdown. And Hypothesis of each brand is extremely informative
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback!
Being with Matika subcompact drill over 3 years, I would say this is the slimiest compare to others, you don't need tons of power if you chose the small drill, compact drill designed for work at tight area also lower your weight at your toolbelt or box. I use this drill for 3mm to 6mm timber drilling everyday and reseating the hot and cold outlet with a fantastic result. I do have XGT hammer drill if I use for hole saw cut or another application need high torque
Slimiest, lol
That's not a bad philosophy to use. Like I said, it's a nice drill to use, the other compacts on the table just allow you to do that and do some heavier duty work as well.
Great video! I'm all about compact tools. If I don't need the power, I rather have the smaller, lighter tool. Dewalt Atomic line is my favorite.
I love when a company can bring both a compact size and a decent power!
Another great video. Enjoy the content on your channel. You deserve more subscribers!
Thanks. I appreciate it!
Great video thank you. I absolutely agree 18v tools like these are making the case for 12v tools harder and harder. I love the 1.7ah Dewalt Powerstack too and think Milwaukee urgently need an equivalent. That said my choice is the Metabo HPT DEX. If I need more power I’ll reach for my Dewalt DCD805 or my Milwaukee Fuel gen 4. But I love the lightweight, superb ergonomics of the Metabo HPT offering and that’s my go to. Good to know it steps up in performance when paired with a bigger battery so I might try the new 4.0ah which is still one row of cells and thus reasonably compact.
I considered buying the new 4ah battery, even thought about getting it for this video to keep the weight down but the reviews on the battery weren't great, so I held off to do some more research on it.
Nice Video 👍 , But how come you didn't use the DeWalt dcd 800 Compact XR Drill in this Competition ???
There are a few reasons. Power wise it’s up significantly on every drill here. It’s roughly 800 in-lbs which tops the flex by 150. While pretty compact it is a heavier drill. So with the focus being more on the compact class I decided not to include it.
Now with that said, I did test it in all the same categories (the M18 fuel as well) and it was pretty dominant. It bested the flex and the Milwaukee compacts by approximately 30%. I originally filmed a segment at the end about more premium options but given the video was going to be over 20 minutes and that I have several videos talking about it already, I chose to cut that segment. It’s a good option though especially if you already on DEWALTs platform.
Can’t say how the newer Bosh is but I have DDS181A older brushed model. Its been a great drill over the years and the batteries are some of the best on the market. They seem to last better than any other brands I have used. I still use the 2 and 1.5 ah batteries that came with my older kits have 3 4 I bought when they first came out with the power core they still going strong.
I think they are built to last for sure. I really like the Bosch.
I have the same drill. Been going strong for 6 years now .
Great video, I'm a fan of DeWALT's Atomic line, small, light and powerful
That is so interesting that the Milwaukee has that slippery chuck. My Gen 2 M12 had a similar slippery chuck, but they fixed it with the Gen 3. I wonder why they didn't do the same for the M18.
I have the gen 2 and I think this one might be a little worse. This seems to be the same chuck as they have on the brushes m12 tools almost. As for why they do this I am guessing just to maintain distance between this and their fuel models.
I would like to try that new Bosch. I purchased that dcd799 recently on sale at HD for home use but out of the box it sounded like something was lose inside and the chuck was not good at all. Excellent video. The Hilti
SF4-22 would be a nice contender.
The Hilti has been considered and I will probably buy it at some point but at 7.1” long it’s bigger than any drill here while not being a hammer drill. Not a bad drill I am sure it just didn’t feel like it fit this compact category. Similar would be the Makita XPH16 which is basically the same size as their flagship XPH14 but with less power.
@@TinkerWithTools you are right. Hope to see more great content!
Ill stick to my Bosch 12v line for compact drill/driver. Perfect for fastening and furniture making.
For lighter duty work, it is a nice drill to use!
I've been using corded Bosch blue for 25+yrs without 1 failure. At my job, over time we used Dewalt, Panasonic, Hitachi and Makita cordless tools. All performed flawlessly but have their pro's and con's. For home use I got a hold of a Milwaukee set because i got a great deal on it but if I had to start over again: Hitachi/Hikoki cordless stuff is amazing and not just for the price.
You have a nice varied experience.
I bought the Bosch non-hammer first and returned it because Amazon sent me a used drill. But I had a chance to try it before sending it back and noticed it had a lot of vibration and runout compared to it's little brother (the brushless 12v 5-in-1 that you also tested). I then bought the Milwaukee to compare and it too has more vibration and runout, however, it has far less than the larger Bosch. It is a very smooth drill for the type and a steal at $99 at Home Depot. Everything you said about the drills is true. If I wasn't needing a very smooth drill working with the Parf Guide Mark II jig I am using for drilling 20mm x 96mm holes for a woodworking bench the precision would not have mattered (I would have been fine with my 12v Bosch, but this Milwaukee is actually a better drill for this work in my opinion because of how much smoother it is. These holes are not going to just be for holding work. There also to set up precise mitered angles, where slight variances add up exponentially with the length of the work. Anyway, thanks again for the review. Had I not watched this, I might have had to go through more drill options before landing on the Milwaukee.
Glad it was helpful.
Very detailed video breakdown of these Compact drills. One information note and suggestion. Bosch has new Tabless technology ProCore 18V plus Batteries came out last year November and released in Early March to market globally, with substantial extra runtime and of course, power. You should do research on it and check it out. Much respect as always for your great work.
Yes someone pointed that in the comment earlier today. From what I can tell it’s available in Europe but not yet where I am located. I’m excited for the what it could mean though.
@@TinkerWithTools Oh okay, maybe when you do, it will be a great video as i am excited also for this great battery and believe you would not be disappointed. Much respect,sir.
I went to HD to buy the Milwaukee compact drill. I was surprised and disappointed at the same time. It was really compact and cheap looking and felt it too. Went to Lowe's looked at the Flex, Dewalt, Metabo Hpt. Bosch wasn't even available. Ended up getting the Metabo HPT DS 18DEX. It looked and felt great in my hands and powerful it was also on sale for $99 kit. I also picked up the18v triple hammer bolt. Thanks for your informative reviews on both
Glad they proved helpful!
Great one!
I also take the m18!
You could quietly get the dcd800 on there and give it a gold medal easily 😉
Yeah, the DCD800 was tested in the same tests, as was the full size Gen 4 Fuel drill from Milwaukee... both of them put up some impressive numbers for sure.
I agree with how slippery the Milwaukee chuck is but so far I haven't had any problems with it holding bits.
I made the decision that I am going to swap it so there will likely be a video coming up about that.
@@TinkerWithTools nice
@@TinkerWithToolsplease do. That is also my only issue with that drill. I’ll probably be doing the same.
Yeah jason, I see what You and ‘Tinker’ are referring to, but I am not so sure it is all about how ‘slippery’ it is, but rather, how freaking tight it holds onto the bit!? Milwaukee had a lot of complaints about loose chucks in the past. My personal experience with this new M18 Compact ( Yes, I just picked one up ) is that the chuck holds onto the bit excessively tight, so that releasing it to change out bits, etc, is very hard. That is where the grip on the chuck is a problem. Chuck runs very true!
Awesome little drill. High pitched motor noise, and the one I bought sounds like the motor/ control chip may be faulty? It does not sound ‘right?’ And when using the VS it makes a weird clicking sound? I cannot believe it is normal? It really does spin a drill bit, especially a smaller auger or Bosch daredevil type bit! But it will be going back, as the motor or something is off?
Take care!
I think I'm going with the Bosch drill/driver (not the hammer drill). I watched a Bosch video recently and they said that Röhm even makes the drill chuck on the Flexiclick version. That really is a nice drill.
Nice video as usual. I wonder how the newer Metabo HPT (my main 18v platform) would do with the compact 4ah battery.
I haven't seen good reviews of the battery. Several reviews saying that it has failed after only a few cycles. That's left me a little hesitant to purchase. Let me know if you pick it up though.
@@TinkerWithToolsThanks for that tip. I probably won't get the 4ah--I have many 5 and 8ah batteries. Don't need another drill, either, but would still go 1. Metabo HPT 2. M18 3. Bosch from these choices. I'd go DCD800 before any of those, though. It will be interesting to see how the new Dewalt impacts (860 and 870) perform, my OG Hitachi Triple Hammer still works great for me. @TinkerWithTools
The dewalt 100 year anniversary drill is in my mind pro-sumer at a product levelig price. It didn't i press me at all. But the dcd800 is a phenomenal drill driver in every way. 791 is of course also a great drill that often sells cheap with battery rebates.
Yeah the DCD 800 is a better drill.
Back in the day Panasonic had nice tools not compact but I recently I saw them on a job site didn’t know they still made tools, maybe at some point you could do a video on them
Panasonic is somewhat simple to acquire as a bare tool but the batteries are harder for me to come by. I’ve wanted to try their impact driver.
@@TinkerWithTools ya I was looking into getting them curious to see how they performed
I have both the DCD794 and Ridgid sub-compact. I really like both oof them as far as ergonomics and power. The slow ramp up of the Ridgid took some getting used to for sure. Dewalt hands down has the best triggers in the business in my opinion. If I need more power I either grab my DCD791, Hercules Brushless or Flex Turbo Hammer Drill. Great video keep em coming!
Thanks! The DEWALT trigger surprised me how much I liked it when testing others back to back. I never felt it was bad but I wouldn’t have guessed that would be my pick necessarily
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Hey my man, a little light bulb went on in my head, and I had an idea for a video; What effect, if any, these newer batteries would have on older tools? Not claiming any originality here mind ya, but I am a bit curious what one of the PowerStack batteries would have on an older DeWalt, a Forge on an older Milwaukee, etc etc. Someone may have done this or similar, but they ain’t You! 😊 Just a dim thought…
I think I have tested some newer batteries on the DCF885 with Dewalt. I'll add it to the list of potential ideas.
The new Metabo HPT 18V is the best I really drill for performance, price etc
The Ridgid trigger has the best control trigger and the little Metabo HPT is great for small jobs and so low priced with extra batteries I got one for all the ladies in my life and they live it, does all they need and I have a couple set up with specific pre hole bits for cabinet making
I just don't like.the ergonomics on the Dewalts and as a previous mostly Milwaukee guy I can't justify the over price for not enough gain on many of there tools
The metabo is a compelling value for sure.
Bosch drills aren't always the fastest compared to some of the others but they are definitely built to last.
It had a respectable finish on this testing. I've been enjoying it so far!
I may continue to sound like a fanboy, but this little drill as a whole package is the best tool I bought last year. Kickback on a button and 2000rpm in a subcompact with a premium Roehm chuck and mechanical clutch? Like who's gonna top that anytime soon? Power for this size is not a concern in any way, it's plenty strong.
Don't downsell Boschs performance either: until literally this week, when it got bumped by an as-yet-unannounced new Dewalt drill, the Bosch flagship 18v drill topped the performance chart on TTC by some margin. That thing is a beast.
Fast is NOT good. I love my old 18v dewalt impact. Slower and does better job
@napoleonsmith7793 fast definitely is good in many situations. Having an impact with the power to go fast when you want, but the trigger control to go slow when needed, is key. If a driver gives you control simply because it lacks the power to do speed, it's really taking away capability.
Aside from that, if you really need precision in a driving application, the ideal tool is something direct drive like an installation driver or a drill driver.
Superb review, very helpful. Question - why does the Bosch have a slight angle to it? How the head is "angled up" a bit like what you see on the M12 drills.
Also crazy that the Milwaukee is both the smallest overall, AND had the fastest overall performance, beating out even that 24v Flex. I'm getting one soon.
I don't know that I have anything definitive on the why... but I would guess that they feel it's better ergonomically. If it will at a direct right angle, it would likely put your wrist at an awkward angle for prolonged use. Have it canted a little bit would make it more natural. That's a guess on my part... but it's what makes the most sense to me.
As for the Milwaukee, it was a surprising performer for sure.
I have the Bosch and in my opinion the angle is to make the drill a little more stable when using the small "Locking Bit Holder Attachment". The other larger chucks are too heavy with the batteries that come with it because the drill is so light (making it top heavy). There is a 6Ah battery available for it that's almost a hundred dollars after tax. This is a little pricey, but it has a base that I believe will allow the drill to stand up with the other attachments. It's not worth the money for me because I just lay it down. I don't have a demanding work flow, so I really don't need the extra power and runtime of the 6Ah battery.
Hilti SF 4 22 is a great subcompact drill I use it weekly
I have heard good things about it... it is a little bit larger than most in this group but I am sure it's quite capable!
I just wanted to let everyone know about something I saw today.
Milwaukee released a new compact M18 hammer drill that is rated at 600 inch pounds. It only comes in a 4 tool combo right now, but it will be available in a combo with a 3 speed compact impact driver soon. I literally watched the TTI rep open the box and put it on display.
Model number? Of either the combo or the individual tools?
@@TinkerWithTools It looks like the 2 tool combo is available on the website. 3693-22CX is the model number.
So it looks like this is just the hammer drill that I mentioned (but didn't have to test) in this video. It's rated at 550 in-lbs (like the drill driver) but comes in 0.1" longer. So I would anticipate the performance being the same as the drill driver, just with the hammer drill function as well.
The three speed impact is one I have considered testing, but since all it gains is the modes over the variable speed only model. I opted to not purchase both.
@@TinkerWithTools The hammer drill is rated at 600 inch pounds, not 550.
Have you ever tried the 750 inch pound hammer drill that comes with an auxiliary handle?
I can see on that specific combo they list it at 600 but on the invidual product page, the 3602-20 is listed at 550. I tried to see if in their initial marketing they listed anything different and I don't see it, so it just seems like they have conflicting info on the product pages...
As for the 750 in-lbs model, I never have tried it. I used the drill driver version which is rated for less. but never bought the hammer drill.
What to pick as a first home power tool? I mentally trust Marita for consistency and quality but also like dcd800/805from dewolt. This is will be my first investment into the system.
For these tools, I would go dewalt.
@@TinkerWithTools I was in a comment of another of your great videos with a set of 288t from Makita. Do you think DeWalt is still the better option? Like DCK299M2 or for my beginning need dcd800/805 more than enough? I’m trying to consider building a system where I can use the garden and cleaning staff tog
The Makita set would be full size drill and an impact so they are going to have a bit more performance and will be able to more comfortably tackle larger tasks. But if you aren’t doing that sort of stuff i prefer the 800/805 to just about every other drill except on larger or more demanding tasks.
I have most of these compacts and my only complaints are the underpowered little Metabo subcompact and SUPER noisy larger compact. Favorite would be Milwaukee or Flex. I also like the Snap On 14.4 screwdriver although that’s sort of a different category
I have considered getting the snap-on but the $300 tool only price is a deterrent for sure.
For what's it's worth, I still like the loud Metabo, but I just wouldn't pick it for working inside a cabinet or something like that.
I have the Flex; i love it 💪😎
How would you compare the balance of the compact Milwaukee M18 brushless with the gen 4 M18 Fuel?
It's tiny so I guess I haven't really noticed the balance... other than when putting a stupidly large battery on it. I don't have issues with the M18 Fuel balance though and think that it's fine.
@@TinkerWithTools I usually drill parallel to the ground, which means I’m holding the drill like a pistol. When I do that, the M18 Fuel feels forward heavy. It’s especially noticeable when I use a longer drill bit.
Anyway, I held the compact drill today, and it’s pretty comfortable in my hand.
Yeah... it's the smallest drill I have ever used or owned...
The thing about replacing the chuck on the Milwaukee is finding one even remotely close to how short and snub nosed it is. I call mine my m18 .357 😂 I’ve had quite a few drills myself over the years and it’s by far the shortest one I’ve seen.
The one I have purchased is going to be a little less than 1/4" longer hopefully. So it will no longer be the shortest but I think it might be worth it.
@@TinkerWithTools I’d be interested in seeing that one. I hope you’re making a video on it.
So I’ll have a video out later but I chuck swapped it! The one I bought initially didn’t work but ended up stealing the one from my M12 Fuel drill. A replacement drill was cheaper than an authentic Milwaukee chuck. And to make things even better it’s actually a shorter drill now because the m12 chuck was a bit smaller than the M18.
@@TinkerWithTools I never would’ve thought that lol.
@@TinkerWithTools Wow! No doubt
Thanks for the ‘hearts’ on my comments ‘Tinker!’ I discovered a ‘problem’ with the chuck today, sadly, on the M18 compact. I was drilling with a smooth reduced shank 1/2” wood bit, and it slipped in the chuck! I had been experimenting with not tightening the chuck down so hard, but even with really cranking down, the bit hit a tough spot in the wood ( only drilling through 2X material, ) and spun on the shaft! No bueno! 😮 DEAL Breaker for me. They make a really small chuck, that is hard to grip, and then it is hard to loosen it, and then to top it off, wont secure down on a drill bit smooth shank?! Geesh! I wanted to like this little drill. It has “Heart!” Sure, it could be an isolated incident, but has anyone else had this issue? Tinker??
I haven't experienced any issues with slipping, or with not being able to loosen the bit, I just found that I didn't like to use the chuck because of the slippery quality that I described in the video, making it difficult to tighten down properly. Once I get it tighened down I have had no issues. And well Spoiler alert to when I can get around to making a video I have chuck swapped this drill with the M12 Fuel chuck, and it got a lot nicer to use. I still have old chuck on the M12 Fuel Hammer drill that I sacrificed for this experiment but I have since replaced that with a new M12 Fuel Hammer Drill (it was roughly the same price as just buying the chuck) so I will likely donate that M12 Mutant to my brother in short order.
If anyone else has any experience with it, I would encourage them to comment too. I can't say it performed poorly, I just didn't like to use it.
@@TinkerWithTools Funny thing is I had no problem tightening it down, but it was a PITA to get loosened? Slippage on a bit is a No GO however. I’m sure it is an isolated incident. It is a heckuva little beast tho!
I think mine was a Monday/ Friday drill, Made in Mexico. And it makes an awful noise at times, akin to when a Formula 1 car bumps up into the Rev limiter. Something going on in the motor? No matter, it is going back. I wanted to try it, but now wont buy it. 🙄
The Hercules and Bauer line may be good to look at too?
They are good tool likes but the Hercules for one would be the largest drill here. They call their drill a compact drill but it’s not really on the same class as these tools in my opinion.
@@TinkerWithTools Gotcha, fair point, wasn't sure. There are compact, subcompact, all sorts of stuff, frankly it's just overwhelming.
i agree with you. Some companies are stating a class where other companies are just saying, "smaller than the last one we made"... so it can get confusing. I like both the Bauer and the Hercules though... they are definite improvements in the Harbor Freight lines and no longer just one job tools.
Hey bro, great video as usual! This compact segment is really opening up which is great for all of us.
Did you happen to test drilling and driving tasks on a Forge or 6.0HO? I'm curious if the compact M18 sees similar performance gains as the Metabo HPT and Flex on their bigger/higher performance batteries. These compacts are powerful enough I'd not be surprised to see significant voltage sag on the 5S 1P configuration in that 3.0HO, even with the 21700s (it's also clear to me Milwaukee needs to do a small Forge to keep being competitive in this new market segment).
I didn’t run it on that simply because at that point it starts to feel like an anchor on the bottom of the tool. I may have to test in a future video but given that it was the performance winner in the normal testing even against drills with more performance on paper I feel it was sufficient for the testing.
@TinkerWithTools that's fair and yeah, 6ah isn't really ideal in the field lol. I'm just curious if it sees the same or similar performance bump as the gen3/4 fuel drills when on a multi-row 21700 or stacked cell battery as a rough indicator of what performance gains we could see with a small (2 or 3ah) Forge battery in the future.
I'll try to make a short of this in the coming weeks. Stay tuned.
You need to get panasonic and skil for sure im in two lines of tools hercul3s at work and skil at home
I have skil 12v stuff. but I haven't purchased any of their 20v stuff as of yet. As for Panasonic, they are increasingly difficult to get the batteries/chargers where I live. I can purchase the tools easy enough, but importing batteries is more difficult.
Hey bro I kid you not masterforce from Menards. They have really decent power tools for tbe price id say they are at least on par maybe even a hair above kobalt,Robin etc. They have have a compact line impact driver,drill , hammer drill,I have the hammer not bad. They've got a full lineup hell they come out with thier 2 Gen hydraulic pulse driver last year. Nobody else in the last few years has had the balls to challenge Milwaukee on that. Clarify they are not my go-tos but if they had to be they'd get the job done. Great show buddy
I don't have Menards anywhere near me (and trust me I am sad about this) but I will have to order them at some point.
What about the Dewalt dcd800? I think it would be a good inclusion
The DCD800 is a great drill but there were a few factors that made it so I didn't include it. One, the power is a good bit higher than most of the drills. Dewalt UK lists it at roughly 800 in-lbs vs flex being the highest here at 650 in-lbs. Nothing wrong with a drill being more powerful but then you also have the weight. it's about 1/2 lb heavier than the DCD794, which for weight is already above the average in this class. Lastly, it's a bit longer than most of these drills. So with all of that, it just feels like it's more in a different class than truly competing here.
But to give you an idea of where it would rate, it would take the crown. I ran it through the same tests and it was certainly the top performers.
@@TinkerWithTools thanks for the reply, I recently decided to upgrade from my old 12v drill and was watching many videos including yours. Thanks for all the useful info
No problem. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Here in EU we have the Skil 3065, 155mm, 900g, 60nm on 500rpm low. (475UWO?) Would be nice to compare as a budget alternative. What can the US name be on that model.
The version of Skil 20v drill that I have here is a 450 in-lbs model. I'll keep my eye out and see if I can a slightly more powerful version.
If Milwaukee could come out with a small surge battery, their compact would be the best. I own the Milwaukee and have used the Makita and Dewalt. The problem besides the slippery chuck is the battery size and weight. I think most people buy compacts for that reason, not power. Like I said, if Milwaukee came out with a 1.7 surge, it would be the best, in my opinion. For now, i got Makita #1, Dewalt #2, and Milwaukee #3.
I am guessing you mean the Forge battery. I agree on that aspect...I would love for them to bring a small form factor Forge battery but I don't seeing it happening with their 3.0 HO and the fact that they seem focused on the higher end of batteries for their future releases.
Yeah, Milwaukee definitely needs a smaller ‘pouch’ battery! Good comment
@@TinkerWithTools They really do need to have a smaller battery! I think You are right, and it would be a missed opportunity for them.
What happened to AEG? Are they more for semi pro after Atlas Copco sold them?
AEG in the US market is branded as Ridgid. So you if you never see me testing AEG, that is why.
I'm confused with Bosch's offerings. Is the GSR18V-535 replacing the Bosch GSR18V-800CN even though the latter appears to have slightly better specs? I can't find the 800 series on Bosch's website under drill/drivers; I can only find it searching for the specific model number. The 800 series is slightly shorter in length and has slightly more torque. Copilot (which is totally unreliable) not surprisingly said the 800 was released first, but it would appear to be going slightly backwards in features. Am I missing something?
I think Copilot was wrong. The 800 must be newer.
Co-pilot isn’t accurate on this one. The 800 is the replacement or new generation of their compact drill.
Hmm... The Milwaukee kit is currently on sale for $99 at Home Depot. However, I just found the Metabo HPT kit for $130 on Amazon. And the Metabo kit comes with an impact driver! As well as a TWO 2.0Ah batteries..
Which should I go for? I like Milwaukee a lot, but I'm really leaning towards the Metabo for sheer value.
I’ll have that Metabo kit and really like it as well. You really won’t go wrong with either. Metabo HPT offers a lot of good value on their platform and you can routinely find sales on Amazon and such on their tools. For values sake that would be the choice. But if that’s not as big of concern well then you could really choose either and be happy.
It seems like the Milwaukee is the better drill overall, which is the main tool I need. The main reason that's making me want to get the Metabo kit is that it comes with an impact driver. It is a tough choice and I think I will lose a few hairs over it lol
I love the Milwaukee drill but I don’t love the chuck on it. It holds okay but it’s a bit slippery on the outside. I made a video on how I swapped it because I disliked it that much. So almost all of the drill is superior but the chuck is nicer on the Metabo.
Hey thanks for replying. I appreciate it. What's confusing us that the Metabo is rated higher in both torque (in-lbs) and RPM, yet the Milwaukee was a LOT faster in actual testing. Are the Metabo specs just marketing..?
Also it seems like the light on the Metabo is a little bigger and/or brighter than the light on the M18? And it looks like more of a pure or even bluish white, whereas the M18's has a very slight yellow tint. Could you comment at all on that?
I'll check the lights and get back to you. As for the ratings. i almost feel that the Milwaukee is underrated if anything. The Metabo compares to the flex which is rated similarly quite well. At the end of the day all the specs are just marketing but I have found that they are all in the same ball park for the most part.
so i want get new line of tools, not sure to go with atomic i like their size, currently have m18 brush they need be updated but torn between staying or line
Between Milwaukee and DEWALT they are both solid platforms. I don’t love the atomic drills but I love the compact XR drills. More compact than brushed M18 while being more powerful. But that would require you to get new batteries and chargers etc. between atomic drills and the new compact brushless M18 I would choose M18. But honestly you would do well with either choice.
@@TinkerWithTools Great explanation thank you can share m18 model # or if there is kid , defiantly looking XR compact
The drill/driver model number is 3601-20 for the bare tool. They then have 3601-21 and 3601-22 kits. The hammer drill versions are the same but 3602 instead of 01.
If the DeWalt and the Festool CXS 12 were the same price, would it have won?
Are you talking about this video with the 18v drills? Or in my other installation drill video?
Sorry, I went back to the wrong video to make my comment! I meant to post this on the wonderful Installation Drill Showdown video!
No worries, I figured it might have been meant of the other video. I have responded there.
Question, what battery did you use to do the drilling tests with the Milwaukee? The standard 2Ah or something more powerful?
The standard 2ah was used in this testing.
@@TinkerWithTools wow! Do you think Bosch and Milwaukee measure torque and speed differently? Given their published specs and the results of your testing, though both did well, it seems Bosch may have over promised and Milwaukee over delivered. If I remember correctly, Milwaukee publishes 550 ft. lbs. and 1700 RPMs while Bosch claims 565 and 2100 RPMs! Why do you think that is? If I remember correctly, some like that happened with the 12v Bosch and the Festool CXS 12. At the time I contributed that to the ladder’s in-line c-shape design, but maybe is is more than that.
Not really sure on this one. If anything I think that the Milwaukee might just be underrated on its torque figure compared to the others. It just seems to keep on pushing even if it feels like it might stall.
Ive got old dewalt 18v and it sucks. Ive got dewalt impact with metal chuck and is awesome. Get metal chuck.
Does the DEWALT DCD794 still have issues with the gearbox?
I haven't had any issues but if I hear anything about it I will let you know.
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Thanks George!
So just out of curiosity was your Milwaukee compact made in China or Mexico?
It is made in China. I believe that is the case for most of the drills here. The Bosch says Malaysia but the rest are China if I am not mistaken.
@@TinkerWithTools I was surprised to see the one Home Depot sent me was made in Mexico. The one I saw in the store was made in China but the hammer version was Mexico.
I don't have the hammer drill version, so perhaps that is just the difference. I know they have some manufacturing in other parts of the world but most tools that I have are made in China.
@@TinkerWithTools No need to respond - just want to clarify, In Home Depot, on display, the hammer version was made in Mexico, the non-hammer was made in China. I purchased the non-hammer version online and the one they sent me happened to also be made in Mexico.
@@TinkerWithTools with the exception of the Festool. I think it might be made in the Czech Republic in lieu of Germany. Right?
shoulda included the hercules
The Hercules is a decently compact drill but the drill driver is 7.18" in length which would have been more than 3/4" longer than the biggest drill here and 1 1/2" longer than the smallest. So while it's a compact full size drill, I would put it in the same class as these drills.
Bosch already 8 Ah tabless cells here Europe since begining of january this year. !!
Somehow I missed that. Now they just need to release it in the US already! Thanks for correcting me there.
yes they need to hurry up and bring those to the US.
Hitachi for the win
Milwaukee and Dewalt have wayyy too many battery options. Its ridiculous. You dont need to have a battery for every integer between 1 and 12
While I get what you are saying I would rather they have options and let me choose what works for me.
14:15 "makita"? I think itt's Metabo on 14:15
Yeah I said Makita a Metabo but picked up the Metabo first. Still was referring to both drills has having a consistent clutch.
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I have been getting several comments for this. Might have to test it soon.