My favorite split title is 1869, in which Rutgers and Princeton claim co-championships. There were two football games played that year: Rutgers @ Princeton, and Princeton @ Rutgers. The home team won both games, and literally no one else was playing college football, so they're the champs!!!
1966. Alabama went undefeated and demolished Nebraska in the Sugar Bowl. Notre Dame and Michigan State played a famous 10-10 tie, during which Notre Dame ran out the clock. Notre Dame got voted #1.
2004 season definitely should have had a playoff. USC, Oklahoma, Auburn, Utah, and Boise State were all undefeated, plus a few other teams like Texas, Michigan, and Louisville, all were really good.
That was the year Utah became the first BCS-buster. On paper, they were as good as USC. Instead, they got matched with #20-something Pitt in the Fiesta Bowl. The Utes viewed it as an insult. As such, they sent a message by demolishing Pitt and setting the Fiesta Bowl sack record.
@@domin8ss yup I remember. Alex Smith really came into his own on that team. Utah had a similar situation four years later when they dispatched Alabama, who was ranked No. 1 for a lot of the season, in the Sugar Bowl.
@@johngittings4673 Brian Johnson, the QB at Utah that beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, never got drafted. He ended up becoming a coach at Utah, moved to Florida, then became an NFL coach with the Eagles. Not sure where he's at now. I heard a rumor he was at New England a few years ago. I don't follow NFL, so I never looked into it.
In the early days, bowl games were just considered exhibition games, which is why the final poll was done before them. As they gained in importance, they were considered a part of the season, and final polls came out after them.
@@chuckwest7045 They did, but 12 of 15 years were contreversial. He just covers the split titles, but the whole thing was a mess. 2001 - Nebraska lost by 36 points to #4 Colorado in the B12 championship, yet still make the national title over #3 Oregon and #4 Colorado.... Like wtf.... 2000 - Miami literally beat FSU on the road in the regular season. Both finished with the same record, but FSU went to the title game. 2008 - two teams went undefeated - NEITHER made the title game. OU and Texas had the same record, but Texas beat OU, but OU went to the title game anyways. 2004 and 2009 had 5+ teams go undefeated for a 2 team championship. 2007 - 7 of the top 8 teams had the same record and the team with the best record didnt make the championship game either. Boise State went undefeated 5 TIMES in 8 years and never made it. TCU went undefeated in back to back seasons and never made it - and this includes a season they beat the #6 team on the road by 40 freaking points - like jesus christ wtf did you have to do to make the bloody thing....
@@bullgravy6906 Well yes and no. Media loves to report that 2011 killed the BCS, but this really doesnt make any sense as it wasnt until 2013 that the CFP was announced. They also never made any changes to the BCS formula the next season (2012) like they had done following controversies in 1998, 1999, 2001, 2003, 2004, and 2007. However there was something much larger than just the 2011 brewing at the same time that media like ESPN love to act like it never happened..... the 2009-2012 G5 lawsuits reached a new peak in 2011 and 2012 as the previous civil, state lawsuits and federal investigations escalated to full blown US DOJ and US Senate hearings and Trials of BCS and NCAA executives for FELONY counts of corruption, fraud and anti-trust.
@@bullgravy6906 Ehhh yes and no. The media story is that the 2011 selection created the playoff because the league was tired of the SEC making all the title games, but this narrative has some pretty serious holes. For one the CFP wasnt announced until 2013, and no changes were made to the selection of the BCS in 2012. So to claim that 2011 was the most controversial season and was principally responsible for the CFP doesnt make a lot of sense as previous controversial seasons led directly to immediate changes in the BCS polls and selection process in 1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2005, and 2008. Like the 2001 selection I mentioned above - the next season the BCS ranking was changed from 50% compueter and 50% human polls to 33% computers and 66% human polls. So if 2011 is more egregious, why werent similar changes made? Futhermore if 2011 was principaly responsible why did they wait 2 years for an announcement of the CFP? Imo something else much larger is more responsible, but media blacklists any discussion on this topic because it unequivocally illustrated blatant corruption in the league, while media companies like ESPN try to claim the sport is totally legit. This topic is the G5 2009-2012 lawsuits, which imo are far more responsible for the CFP and also probably partially responsible for why the G5 today even has a spot in the 12 team playoff.
On the part where 1946 was skipped, Wronged didn't mention the other two teams that would've made the playoff. Those two teams were Georgia and UCLA, who both went 10-0 and were #3 and #4 in the final AP poll.
Even crazier: MSU's one loss was to a Notre Dame team that later vacated its entire season. And, unrelated to the vacating, it was a one-score game with the absolute shadiest defensive PI calling that I've ever seen in my life.
Even I, as a Nebraska fan, can concede that the 2001 Nebraska team shouldn't have played Miami for the natty after getting demolished by Colorado. I'm surprised you didn't mention that year in your video.
Always wanted an 8 team playoff. Still believe that is the right #. That way no bye weeks and goes deep enough to include teams that could have a bad week but not too deep that should not be given the chance. Honestly how many #12’s are beating #5.
What a BCS Title game could have been 1978-1997: 1978: Penn State v USC 1979: Ohio State v Alabama 1980: Georgia v Florida State 1981: Clemson v Georgia 1982: Georgia v Penn State 1983: Nebraska v Texas 1984: Oklahoma v Washington (No BYU because G5 should have it's own title) 1985: Penn State v Miami 1986: Penn State v Miami 1987: Miami v Oklahoma 1988: Notre Dame v West Virginia 1989: Colorado v Miami 1990: Georgia Tech v Texas (Sorry Colorado 5th down doesn't count) 1991: Miami v Washington 1992: Miami v Alabama 1993: Nebraska v West Virginia 1994: Nebraska v Penn State 1995: Nebraska v Florida 1996: Florida State v Arizona State 1997: Michigan v Nebraska
@some person3883 Some notes: 1982: If you take away the fifth down in 1990, you should also take away PSU's win against the Huskers (that was on a questionable call or two late in the game). So, Georgia plays Nebraska, and the Huskers win. 1985: I think that Penn State beats Miami a year earlier (Testaverde was terrible in the Sugar Bowl, and PSU does the same thing to him). So, as a result, those fifth-year seniors don't come back, and the Lions don't go undefeated in 1986 (Miami plays OU two years in a row and wins). 1990: I agree with you (Colorado shouldn't have been there). I like GT in that matchup. 1992: If two FG's don't miss (both against the fluky 92 Hurricanes), it's Texas A&M (who was undefeated) and Alabama for the Natty.
In 2008, Utah was the only undefeated team, yet it finished behind a 1 loss Florida team. Did the polls not want a repeat of 1984, when a team from a non-power conference was champion?
You kind of glided over the 1983 season, where Auburn had, by far, the toughest schedule, and wound up with the same record as Nebraska and Miami. And, to be a total homer, let's not forgot 2004, when Auburn had a perfect season and was left out in favor of Oklahoma. I'm not sure anyone would have beaten USC that year, but Oklahoma just wet the bed.
Auburn did have the toughest schedule but lost to Texas and since Texas was undefeated at the end of the regular season all that was needed was #1 nebraska vs #2 Texas. I'm going to do a long form video on 1983 season cause I'd put Auburn my national champion at the end of the bowl games and not Miami. But once again bowl tie-ins helped Miami get the game vs Nebraska. And I complain about bowl tie ins all over the video
@@AlohaBlockchain In 1965 the highest ranked teams going into the bowl games were Michigan St. and Arkansas who were both unbeaten. Alabama was #3 with a loss and a tie. Michigan St. lost the Rose Bowl to UCLA. Arkansas lost the Cotton Bowl to LSU. Then Alabama beat Nebraska in the Orange Bowl to jump over both Michigan St. and Arkansas when the final polls came out after all the bowls had been played. 1965 was the first season that the AP poll decided to wait until after the all the bowls had been played in order to release their final polls.
Do you feel that way also about Oklahoma in 1950, Tennessee in 1951, Minnesota in 1960 and other teams voted number one when it was a regular season award that lost their bowl games?
now for the ultimate what if, what if there was a 4 team playoff in 1966, and the first three teams in was (1) Notre Dame, (2) Michigan State, (3) Alabama, who could have been the 4th team in?
This is why I would separate the Power 4 conferences from the Group of 5. They need to be separate entities with their own playoff system. That way, everyone would be more satisfied than normal.
To add on for 1951. Maryland would win the Southern Conference championship for the final time although they did play Tennessee in the Sugar Bowl and win, the Southern Conference would punish Maryland for accepting the Sugar Bowl bid because the Southern Conference forbid postseason bowl berths for its members at the time. Maryland would leave the Southern Conference and become an Independent for 1952 and eventually link up with Clemson, Duke, UNC, NC State, South Carolina and Wake Forest after the 1952 season to break away from the Southern Conference and form the Atlantic Coast Conference for 1953 with Virginia joining in December 1953 for the 1954 season
2012 needed a playoff because that season’s national championship was a blowout. You had Alabama vs Notre Dame. Alabama won because Notre Dame played an easy schedule.
Oklahoma was under a postseason ban for violations in 1973 so they wouldn’t be in it even if a playoff system existed back then. Instead it would’ve been a 2022 TCU situation where a team that didn’t win their conference would go in and that team was Texas Tech who only lost one game to Texas unfortunately for them this average Texas team beat everyone else in their conference as well thus Tech was left out of the Cotton Bowl.
I think on a neutral field Miami beats all 3 by double digits. I know Miami lost that opening game at BYU and a tough lost at Notre Dame. But a 4 team playoff Miami beats all 3 on neutral fields. Miami played ND tough in South Bend whereas ND got dawg walked down at the Orange Bowl.
There should’ve been a playoff much earlier. If not in the beginning, then at least start right after World War II ended. The system we have in place in real life is completely rigged and it has been rigged since the beginning. My ideal way of doing things will probably sound very radical to some of you here but just bear with me here. Right after the war, I would have a trial run with just four teams testing it out. After that, an official system would be created with eight teams and small college teams would be included as this was the pre-divisional era of the NCAA. I would still have all the bowl games but they would now have the first teams out of the playoffs and act as invitationals very similar to the NIT in college basketball. Starting in 1956, only the University Division (top 6 conference champions+top two wild cards and everyone is included. There would be no G5 or P5, just University Division/D-I) would be included as the NCAA split into two division levels that year being the aforementioned University Division and the College Division. NAIA Football also started that year. The University Division would still have eight teams in the playoffs until the 1964 season when it would expand to ten teams still with the top 6 conference champions but you would have the top four wild cards. The ten team playoff would last for five years before expanding to 12 teams in 1970 with the top eight conference champions with still the top four wild cards. That would last for the last three years of the University Division and the first year of Division I as the NCAA further split into a three division structure in 1973 all numerical divisions which has stuck out ever since. The College Division split into Division II and Division III. The Division I playoffs would then expand to 16 teams with all conference champion plus the top wild card teams depending on how many conferences there are in the highest level of college football which has changed a lot over the years. and would remain that way to this day even as Division I split into the two subdivisions we have today and they exist exclusively in football. Division I-A/FBS would have my 16 team playoff while Division I-AA/FCS would have its own championship much like all the lower division levels have had since their formation in 1956. My system would have flaws in the beginning and make improvements as the years go by since we can’t everything to be perfect from start. Even the College Basketball Tournament had flaws in the beginning and it improved over time. Also for the record, I think strength of schedule, vacated wins, and postseason bans are complete garbage. Strength of schedule should not matter at all while postseason bans and vacated wins should not be allowed to exist. Strength of schedule is never discussed in any other sport and nobody cares about it in those sports so why does it matter in college football? It is the stupidest thing ever. Also, vacated wins and postseason bans are really unfair. The whole team gets punished just because of the sins of the individual(s) even everybody that did nothing wrong. Only the guilty party should be punished, not the whole team. Also, sometimes the rule they just broke doesn’t make any sense at all. This comes to show how corrupt the NCAA or the whole system is. Postseason bans and vacated wins don’t exist in professional sports even for teams that actually do deserve it like the 2017 Houston Astros for their role in spy-gate, the 2019 Washington Nationals for conning their way into the World Series, and the 2022 Houston Astros again for spy-gate in 2017 in Major League Baseball, or the 2015 New England Patriots for their role in deflate-gate. If you’re gonna vacate wins, issue a postseason ban or even go as far as to issue a death penalty (SMU anyone?) in college then you might as well do the same thing in the professional level
How the hell could you leave off 2004 from seasons needing a playoff. Don't give a shit that USC and Chokelahoma were ranked 1 and 2. Auburn was also undefeated that year and deserved a shot.
1997. My cornhuskers had to split within inferior Michigan team that we would’ve beaten by probably four touchdowns but we had to split with them just cause they wanted to reward Michigan because they never win anything that was such bull crap anybody that watches college football even if you weren’t on Nebraska fan knows what would’ve happened that was Tom Osborne‘s last game. They would’ve beaten Michigan by four or five touchdowns
Nice vid on what if's but where is your counter argument as to why there wasn't a playoff earlier? Division II didn't start until 1973 and I bet you can't fathom the reasoning behind that either. All these comments wondering how? and why? onthis vid defintely shows how uninformed people are on why it took so long.
I can't believe you didn't mention the most obvious year that proves one vs two wasn't the answer neither. You mentioned 94 & 97. Well in 96 they decided to do the BCS thing that would start in 98. But 96 had Florida St and Arizona as one and two. Problem was that they both lost to 3 and 4. Florida beat Florida St and Ohio St beat Arizona. Yet the idiots who were running college football somehow still thought one vs two was the answer when the proof was right in their face the year they had the BCS deal agreed on.
We NEVER needed a playoff and we don’t need one now. It’s very simple, if you have two undefeated teams AFTER the bowl games are played, then those two teams play in an additional game two weeks (for rest) later. This ridiculous playoff nonsense has made the regular season MEANINGLESS now!!! Get ready for 3 loss Georgia against 3 loss Ohio State or some other matchup in the championship!!! Why bother watching the regular season now. These teams simply do what the NBA does and it’s called “load management” this playoff thing is has ruined college football!
2008 should’ve been 1. OU 2. Florida 3. USC 4. Texas Utah did not have the SOS to compete with these teams, and I think they would lose to these teams. They beat Bama, but Bama was an 11 point dog to Florida. No one remembers but Bama was very mid in 08 and would’ve been a 15 point dog to OU
SEC bias on display here. Was it's Utah's fault that it was in a conference because of geographical location? As for beating Alabama, let's not forget the arrogance of all who said that Alabama would crush Utah, then after the loss, everyine used the bullshit "Bama had too many injuries" excuse.
Big USC fan here and I always wondered why we played Oklahoma instead of Auburn. Maybe the fact that SC played at Auburn in 2002 & at SC in 2003 winning both was something the writers didn’t want to see again. However the biggest reason is strength of schedule. It all came down to non-conference. USC played a neutral site game against ranked Virginia Tech, Colorado State, at BYU and vs Notre Dame. Oklahoma hosted Bowling Green, Houston and went to ranked Oregon. Auburn didn’t have a power non conference opponent in Louisiana Tech and Louisiana Monroe. Worse is they hosted a Division 2 team in the Citadel. I think if they had a 4 team playoff using the final poll before the bowl games would’ve been an interesting final 4. #1 USC vs Cal (SC only won by 6 in their regular season meeting) #2 Oklahoma vs Auburn (Adrian Peterson in one offense & Cadillac Williams in the other would’ve been fun)
Wait; Hold Up!!! How The FUCK, can U make a List like THIS, WITHOUT mentioning The 90s & 2000s; Are U SERIOUS?!?🤨 Unless Ur planning on making a Part 2, This Video is Clickbait!!!!!
I explained at the beginning that this is a fantasy video and was a video for years that needed a playoff in the bowl system before the Bowl coalition/alliance started. I started with the years in the 1990s that needed 1 vs 2.
No team with 2 losses should EVER be considered for some sort of a playoff. And I don't care how brutal your schedule was. You still lost...TWICE! In a playoff, every team but one (the champion) will have an additional loss. Meaning, the champion will have a MAXIMUM of one loss overall. Two losses already before a playoff? Sorry... good luck in the Weedeater Bowl, and enjoy watching the playoffs on TV.
@@erinnarmstrong993 No, they wouldn't. All but maybe a half-dozen schools are in conferences. Conferences are rivalry games, by and large. REVENUE GENERATING games. You think Alabama will give up a date with Auburn or Georgia to schedule some "Northeastern Delaware A&I"-type cupcake and see the stadium half full? No way that would happen.
All that a playoff system was originally supposed to do was produce two teams so that the champion could be determined on the field, not by a flawed polling system. The absolute best idea was for the normal season to play out, and then have the top four teams in a "plus one" format to produce the final championship game. Never has a 5th place team ever deserved to be in the championship game, so the top four teams would be sufficient. But younger and louder voices than mine just had to be like the NFL. When an 8-5 team worms their way into the playoff, we'll know it's a steaming pile of excrement.
You seem to be giving the Title to Colorado outright in 1990.....and they had a loss AND a tie. Georgia Tech took the coaches poll. And you say it the same way for 1991...with Miami winning the title. Actually Washington won 3 of the 4 major National Championship Trophies that were handed out. ( The coaches poll,the NFF Trophy and the Grantland Rice Trophy. But the single biggest horseshit deal of all time was in 1978 USC and Alabama split the two major polls. A split poll.....well it was to bad they couldn't have met and settled it on the field! OH...WAIT A MINUTE.....they did meet in 1978 with USC traveling down to Birmingham and soundly defeating the tide 24-14! The single dumbest thing I have ever seen in sports! I have argued with Bama fans on this before....their logic always goes to...well Alabama beat #1 Penn st so they deserved the title. Well according to their own logic....Penn st should still have been crowned champions because that loss shouldn't matter.....I mean Bama's loss to USC was discounted in Tide fans minds! I saw the the 78 game between Bama and SC......and it wasn't even as close as the score. USC was much bigger physically and pushed them around the field all day! Bryant even admitted after the game "they are a helluva lot better than we are".
Actually if you watch my video on the 1990 season I don't pick Colorado to be the national champion. And Miami won the AP National title which Washington did not and that is why I wanted them to play each other.
@@WrongedSports I understand about 1991....and 1994 and 1997.....all would have been great #1 vs #2 match-ups. I enjoyed this video....I guess I went on a bit of a rant about 1978! lol
My favorite split title is 1869, in which Rutgers and Princeton claim co-championships. There were two football games played that year: Rutgers @ Princeton, and Princeton @ Rutgers. The home team won both games, and literally no one else was playing college football, so they're the champs!!!
I am always a fan of celebrating a Rutgers National Championship. Thanks for watching
The 2007 season would've been perfect for a playoff
1. OSU
2. Georgia
3. LSU
4. USC
Maybe flip 2 and 3 but I honestly think UGA was the far superior team. I hate divisions thank god they’re gone
@@RadicallyOptimisticI want 2007 to be the 12-team playoff
The 1966 wasn't even mentioned. A glaring oversight.
1966. Alabama went undefeated and demolished Nebraska in the Sugar Bowl. Notre Dame and Michigan State played a famous 10-10 tie, during which Notre Dame ran out the clock. Notre Dame got voted #1.
2004 season definitely should have had a playoff. USC, Oklahoma, Auburn, Utah, and Boise State were all undefeated, plus a few other teams like Texas, Michigan, and Louisville, all were really good.
That was the year Utah became the first BCS-buster. On paper, they were as good as USC. Instead, they got matched with #20-something Pitt in the Fiesta Bowl. The Utes viewed it as an insult. As such, they sent a message by demolishing Pitt and setting the Fiesta Bowl sack record.
@@domin8ss yup I remember. Alex Smith really came into his own on that team. Utah had a similar situation four years later when they dispatched Alabama, who was ranked No. 1 for a lot of the season, in the Sugar Bowl.
@@johngittings4673 Brian Johnson, the QB at Utah that beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, never got drafted. He ended up becoming a coach at Utah, moved to Florida, then became an NFL coach with the Eagles. Not sure where he's at now. I heard a rumor he was at New England a few years ago. I don't follow NFL, so I never looked into it.
I always wanted a tournament of champions. Win your conference and you are in. Then road to the national title.
In the early days, bowl games were just considered exhibition games, which is why the final poll was done before them. As they gained in importance, they were considered a part of the season, and final polls came out after them.
B.S. From the very beginning every team in a bowl game tried to win it.
I think Washington would have beaten Miami in 91.
I cannot fucking believe this was the system for a hundred years
It was terrible
It’s stupid af
This year is the first real attempt at a true national championship
the entire BCS era.......
Why not before the BCS era?
@@chuckwest7045 They did, but 12 of 15 years were contreversial. He just covers the split titles, but the whole thing was a mess.
2001 - Nebraska lost by 36 points to #4 Colorado in the B12 championship, yet still make the national title over #3 Oregon and #4 Colorado.... Like wtf....
2000 - Miami literally beat FSU on the road in the regular season. Both finished with the same record, but FSU went to the title game.
2008 - two teams went undefeated - NEITHER made the title game. OU and Texas had the same record, but Texas beat OU, but OU went to the title game anyways.
2004 and 2009 had 5+ teams go undefeated for a 2 team championship.
2007 - 7 of the top 8 teams had the same record and the team with the best record didnt make the championship game either.
Boise State went undefeated 5 TIMES in 8 years and never made it.
TCU went undefeated in back to back seasons and never made it - and this includes a season they beat the #6 team on the road by 40 freaking points - like jesus christ wtf did you have to do to make the bloody thing....
@@MattBuild4not even mentioning 2011? The year that killed the BCS and rushed in the CFP?
@@bullgravy6906 Well yes and no. Media loves to report that 2011 killed the BCS, but this really doesnt make any sense as it wasnt until 2013 that the CFP was announced. They also never made any changes to the BCS formula the next season (2012) like they had done following controversies in 1998, 1999, 2001, 2003, 2004, and 2007.
However there was something much larger than just the 2011 brewing at the same time that media like ESPN love to act like it never happened..... the 2009-2012 G5 lawsuits reached a new peak in 2011 and 2012 as the previous civil, state lawsuits and federal investigations escalated to full blown US DOJ and US Senate hearings and Trials of BCS and NCAA executives for FELONY counts of corruption, fraud and anti-trust.
@@bullgravy6906 Ehhh yes and no. The media story is that the 2011 selection created the playoff because the league was tired of the SEC making all the title games, but this narrative has some pretty serious holes. For one the CFP wasnt announced until 2013, and no changes were made to the selection of the BCS in 2012. So to claim that 2011 was the most controversial season and was principally responsible for the CFP doesnt make a lot of sense as previous controversial seasons led directly to immediate changes in the BCS polls and selection process in 1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2005, and 2008. Like the 2001 selection I mentioned above - the next season the BCS ranking was changed from 50% compueter and 50% human polls to 33% computers and 66% human polls. So if 2011 is more egregious, why werent similar changes made?
Futhermore if 2011 was principaly responsible why did they wait 2 years for an announcement of the CFP? Imo something else much larger is more responsible, but media blacklists any discussion on this topic because it unequivocally illustrated blatant corruption in the league, while media companies like ESPN try to claim the sport is totally legit.
This topic is the G5 2009-2012 lawsuits, which imo are far more responsible for the CFP and also probably partially responsible for why the G5 today even has a spot in the 12 team playoff.
On the part where 1946 was skipped, Wronged didn't mention the other two teams that would've made the playoff. Those two teams were Georgia and UCLA, who both went 10-0 and were #3 and #4 in the final AP poll.
2013 needed a playoff. That Michigan state team that ended urban Meyers OSU 24 game win streak in the Big ten championship was on fire.
Even crazier: MSU's one loss was to a Notre Dame team that later vacated its entire season. And, unrelated to the vacating, it was a one-score game with the absolute shadiest defensive PI calling that I've ever seen in my life.
That was also the year Alabama lost to Auburn on the Kick 6
1969 Rose Bowl: #1 OSU 27 #2 USC 17
Even I, as a Nebraska fan, can concede that the 2001 Nebraska team shouldn't have played Miami for the natty after getting demolished by Colorado. I'm surprised you didn't mention that year in your video.
Always wanted an 8 team playoff. Still believe that is the right #. That way no bye weeks and goes deep enough to include teams that could have a bad week but not too deep that should not be given the chance. Honestly how many #12’s are beating #5.
@@toddmccool2601 I agree. We went from 4 to 12. Don't understand why 8 wasn't the choice. Would keep the regular season more relevant as well
You will see upsets every year. How often do wildcard teams win the superbowl? Many times
12 is a compromise for those that wanted 16
What a BCS Title game could have been 1978-1997:
1978: Penn State v USC
1979: Ohio State v Alabama
1980: Georgia v Florida State
1981: Clemson v Georgia
1982: Georgia v Penn State
1983: Nebraska v Texas
1984: Oklahoma v Washington (No BYU because G5 should have it's own title)
1985: Penn State v Miami
1986: Penn State v Miami
1987: Miami v Oklahoma
1988: Notre Dame v West Virginia
1989: Colorado v Miami
1990: Georgia Tech v Texas (Sorry Colorado 5th down doesn't count)
1991: Miami v Washington
1992: Miami v Alabama
1993: Nebraska v West Virginia
1994: Nebraska v Penn State
1995: Nebraska v Florida
1996: Florida State v Arizona State
1997: Michigan v Nebraska
Fl lost by 3 at fsu in 1996. A td was called back in the 4th quarter because of supposed holding.
@some person3883
Some notes:
1982: If you take away the fifth down in 1990, you should also take away PSU's win against the Huskers (that was on a questionable call or two late in the game). So, Georgia plays Nebraska, and the Huskers win.
1985: I think that Penn State beats Miami a year earlier (Testaverde was terrible in the Sugar Bowl, and PSU does the same thing to him). So, as a result, those fifth-year seniors don't come back, and the Lions don't go undefeated in 1986 (Miami plays OU two years in a row and wins).
1990: I agree with you (Colorado shouldn't have been there). I like GT in that matchup.
1992: If two FG's don't miss (both against the fluky 92 Hurricanes), it's Texas A&M (who was undefeated) and Alabama for the Natty.
@@jab1289 82 would have been SMU against Georgia if not for Penn State
BCS was garbage. Just ask Utah and Boise State. Both were G5 teams during that era that beat P5 programs. Utah since became a P5 team.
@@someperson3883 If Nebraska beats Penn State that year, they go undefeated, and Georgia was also undefeated (SMU had a tie).
1994… undefeated, untied, unappreciated according to shirts that sold out in downtown State College.
In 2008, Utah was the only undefeated team, yet it finished behind a 1 loss Florida team.
Did the polls not want a repeat of 1984, when a team from a non-power conference was champion?
1996 BYU would be fun to watch in CFP
You kind of glided over the 1983 season, where Auburn had, by far, the toughest schedule, and wound up with the same record as Nebraska and Miami. And, to be a total homer, let's not forgot 2004, when Auburn had a perfect season and was left out in favor of Oklahoma. I'm not sure anyone would have beaten USC that year, but Oklahoma just wet the bed.
Auburn did have the toughest schedule but lost to Texas and since Texas was undefeated at the end of the regular season all that was needed was #1 nebraska vs #2 Texas. I'm going to do a long form video on 1983 season cause I'd put Auburn my national champion at the end of the bowl games and not Miami. But once again bowl tie-ins helped Miami get the game vs Nebraska. And I complain about bowl tie ins all over the video
Wasn't Auburn on probation in 2004? Pretty sure there was no way that was even an option
@@chriswise7978, they were not on probation in 2004. That was the undefeated 1993 Auburn team.
1964 when Alabama was voted #1 but lost their bowl game with other undefeated teams?
Alabama was not voted #1 in 1969. They went 6-5 that season.
@@chuckwest7045 Not sure why I typed 1969. I meant 1965.
@@AlohaBlockchain In 1965 the highest ranked teams going into the bowl games were Michigan St. and Arkansas who were both unbeaten. Alabama was #3 with a loss and a tie.
Michigan St. lost the Rose Bowl to UCLA. Arkansas lost the Cotton Bowl to LSU. Then Alabama beat Nebraska in the Orange Bowl to jump over both Michigan St. and Arkansas when the final polls came out after all the bowls had been played.
1965 was the first season that the AP poll decided to wait until after the all the bowls had been played in order to release their final polls.
Do you feel that way also about Oklahoma in 1950, Tennessee in 1951, Minnesota in 1960 and other teams voted number one when it was a regular season award that lost their bowl games?
@@philwilson4706 Any team that lost their final game is not a legitimate national champion.
The polls voting for national champions was such garbage
now for the ultimate what if, what if there was a 4 team playoff in 1966, and the first three teams in was (1) Notre Dame, (2) Michigan State, (3) Alabama, who could have been the 4th team in?
I'd go with Georgia. They finished ranked #4 and went on to win the Cotton Bowl.
Arkansas
I still think Auburn was punished by the voters after winning the 1983 Sugar Bowl.
One of the voters said that national champions don't kick three field goals. That's why Miami leapfrogged them.
We had the playoff by this point, but a round robin between LSU, Clemson and Ohio State should've determined 2019 tbh.
1984... Washington should have won the National Championship over 'undefeated' BYU, but look at the strength of schedule and the opponents.
I was gonna do one for 1984 but there are a few teams that could've been in it.
2011
All about that t.v. money !
You think Georgia Tech would've played Illinois in 1951? 🤔
Basically, anyone named NC before 1998 needs an asterisk next to their win.
I'd extend that through the BCS era, too
This is why I would separate the Power 4 conferences from the Group of 5. They need to be separate entities with their own playoff system. That way, everyone would be more satisfied than normal.
Disagree. Just ask Utah and Boise State.
1984, the year BYU won. Total BS, no way they win in a playoff
To add on for 1951. Maryland would win the Southern Conference championship for the final time although they did play Tennessee in the Sugar Bowl and win, the Southern Conference would punish Maryland for accepting the Sugar Bowl bid because the Southern Conference forbid postseason bowl berths for its members at the time. Maryland would leave the Southern Conference and become an Independent for 1952 and eventually link up with Clemson, Duke, UNC, NC State, South Carolina and Wake Forest after the 1952 season to break away from the Southern Conference and form the Atlantic Coast Conference for 1953 with Virginia joining in December 1953 for the 1954 season
2012 needed a playoff because that season’s national championship was a blowout. You had Alabama vs Notre Dame. Alabama won because Notre Dame played an easy schedule.
Oklahoma was under a postseason ban for violations in 1973 so they wouldn’t be in it even if a playoff system existed back then. Instead it would’ve been a 2022 TCU situation where a team that didn’t win their conference would go in and that team was Texas Tech who only lost one game to Texas unfortunately for them this average Texas team beat everyone else in their conference as well thus Tech was left out of the Cotton Bowl.
Nebraska would have smoked UM in 97
Naw, they should've lost to Mizzou. Michigan defense wouldve gave them fits.
1990 Gt Colorado NotreDame
I think on a neutral field Miami beats all 3 by double digits. I know Miami lost that opening game at BYU and a tough lost at Notre Dame. But a 4 team playoff Miami beats all 3 on neutral fields. Miami played ND tough in South Bend whereas ND got dawg walked down at the Orange Bowl.
There should’ve been a playoff much earlier. If not in the beginning, then at least start right after World War II ended. The system we have in place in real life is completely rigged and it has been rigged since the beginning. My ideal way of doing things will probably sound very radical to some of you here but just bear with me here. Right after the war, I would have a trial run with just four teams testing it out. After that, an official system would be created with eight teams and small college teams would be included as this was the pre-divisional era of the NCAA. I would still have all the bowl games but they would now have the first teams out of the playoffs and act as invitationals very similar to the NIT in college basketball. Starting in 1956, only the University Division (top 6 conference champions+top two wild cards and everyone is included. There would be no G5 or P5, just University Division/D-I) would be included as the NCAA split into two division levels that year being the aforementioned University Division and the College Division. NAIA Football also started that year. The University Division would still have eight teams in the playoffs until the 1964 season when it would expand to ten teams still with the top 6 conference champions but you would have the top four wild cards. The ten team playoff would last for five years before expanding to 12 teams in 1970 with the top eight conference champions with still the top four wild cards. That would last for the last three years of the University Division and the first year of Division I as the NCAA further split into a three division structure in 1973 all numerical divisions which has stuck out ever since. The College Division split into Division II and Division III. The Division I playoffs would then expand to 16 teams with all conference champion plus the top wild card teams depending on how many conferences there are in the highest level of college football which has changed a lot over the years. and would remain that way to this day even as Division I split into the two subdivisions we have today and they exist exclusively in football. Division I-A/FBS would have my 16 team playoff while Division I-AA/FCS would have its own championship much like all the lower division levels have had since their formation in 1956. My system would have flaws in the beginning and make improvements as the years go by since we can’t everything to be perfect from start. Even the College Basketball Tournament had flaws in the beginning and it improved over time. Also for the record, I think strength of schedule, vacated wins, and postseason bans are complete garbage. Strength of schedule should not matter at all while postseason bans and vacated wins should not be allowed to exist. Strength of schedule is never discussed in any other sport and nobody cares about it in those sports so why does it matter in college football? It is the stupidest thing ever. Also, vacated wins and postseason bans are really unfair. The whole team gets punished just because of the sins of the individual(s) even everybody that did nothing wrong. Only the guilty party should be punished, not the whole team. Also, sometimes the rule they just broke doesn’t make any sense at all. This comes to show how corrupt the NCAA or the whole system is. Postseason bans and vacated wins don’t exist in professional sports even for teams that actually do deserve it like the 2017 Houston Astros for their role in spy-gate, the 2019 Washington Nationals for conning their way into the World Series, and the 2022 Houston Astros again for spy-gate in 2017 in Major League Baseball, or the 2015 New England Patriots for their role in deflate-gate. If you’re gonna vacate wins, issue a postseason ban or even go as far as to issue a death penalty (SMU anyone?) in college then you might as well do the same thing in the professional level
All of them tbh!
How the hell could you leave off 2004 from seasons needing a playoff. Don't give a shit that USC and Chokelahoma were ranked 1 and 2. Auburn was also undefeated that year and deserved a shot.
Better and cleaner name for Oklahoma than I have. Anyway. Yes right there. 2004 we needed a playoff.
Utah was undefeated that year too.
Colorado didn't deserve to be there!
They should've lost to Missouri AND Notre Dame (that wasn't a penalty on that return )
This sharing of national championships is beyond stupid
1997. My cornhuskers had to split within inferior Michigan team that we would’ve beaten by probably four touchdowns but we had to split with them just cause they wanted to reward Michigan because they never win anything that was such bull crap anybody that watches college football even if you weren’t on Nebraska fan knows what would’ve happened that was Tom Osborne‘s last game. They would’ve beaten Michigan by four or five touchdowns
Truth!
That Nebraska team wasnt as good as the previous 2 championship teams. Mizzou shouldve beaten yall.
1994 could've had a playoff in my opinion.
2004, 2007, 2010?
Every year I've been watching college football since 1988 needed a 16 team playoff. Period.
16 is way too many…
This is CFB not the NFL. The chasm between 1 and 16 is TRULY bigger than the Grand Canyon.
Nice vid on what if's but where is your counter argument as to why there wasn't a playoff earlier?
Division II didn't start until 1973 and I bet you can't fathom the reasoning behind that either.
All these comments wondering how? and why? onthis vid defintely shows how uninformed people are on why it took so long.
Your voice sounds digitally altered in some way
Um not sure
What about 2000
I can't believe you didn't mention the most obvious year that proves one vs two wasn't the answer neither. You mentioned 94 & 97. Well in 96 they decided to do the BCS thing that would start in 98. But 96 had Florida St and Arizona as one and two. Problem was that they both lost to 3 and 4. Florida beat Florida St and Ohio St beat Arizona. Yet the idiots who were running college football somehow still thought one vs two was the answer when the proof was right in their face the year they had the BCS deal agreed on.
Yeah 96 should have been 1 v 2 instead of 1 v 3 and 2 v 4. But that's for watching
Had there been a playoff in 2010, TCU would have won.
LOL...TCU was not beating Auburn and Cam Newton.
I don't think so.
They're not beating Auburn that year.
@@ericwiliiams9540 Agreed. TCU wouldn't have beaten Auburn in 2010.
We NEVER needed a playoff and we don’t need one now. It’s very simple, if you have two undefeated teams AFTER the bowl games are played, then those two teams play in an additional game two weeks (for rest) later. This ridiculous playoff nonsense has made the regular season MEANINGLESS now!!! Get ready for 3 loss Georgia against 3 loss Ohio State or some other matchup in the championship!!! Why bother watching the regular season now. These teams simply do what the NBA does and it’s called “load management” this playoff thing is has ruined college football!
Why do you hart every comment
Because I read them all
2008 should’ve been
1. OU
2. Florida
3. USC
4. Texas
Utah did not have the SOS to compete with these teams, and I think they would lose to these teams. They beat Bama, but Bama was an 11 point dog to Florida. No one remembers but Bama was very mid in 08 and would’ve been a 15 point dog to OU
SEC bias on display here.
Was it's Utah's fault that it was in a conference because of geographical location?
As for beating Alabama, let's not forget the arrogance of all who said that Alabama would crush Utah, then after the loss, everyine used the bullshit "Bama had too many injuries" excuse.
On all of these, I just said, "so what you're saying is, if there had been a playoff, bama would've won"
2004 with undefeated Auburn being left out?
Big USC fan here and I always wondered why we played Oklahoma instead of Auburn. Maybe the fact that SC played at Auburn in 2002 & at SC in 2003 winning both was something the writers didn’t want to see again. However the biggest reason is strength of schedule. It all came down to non-conference. USC played a neutral site game against ranked Virginia Tech, Colorado State, at BYU and vs Notre Dame. Oklahoma hosted Bowling Green, Houston and went to ranked Oregon. Auburn didn’t have a power non conference opponent in Louisiana Tech and Louisiana Monroe. Worse is they hosted a Division 2 team in the Citadel. I think if they had a 4 team playoff using the final poll before the bowl games would’ve been an interesting final 4.
#1 USC vs Cal (SC only won by 6 in their regular season meeting)
#2 Oklahoma vs Auburn (Adrian Peterson in one offense & Cadillac Williams in the other would’ve been fun)
Play at USC in 2022 competitive game and at Auburn in 2023 and y’all wooded our ass. But we were a completely different team in 04
Wait; Hold Up!!! How The FUCK, can U make a List like THIS, WITHOUT mentioning The 90s & 2000s; Are U SERIOUS?!?🤨
Unless Ur planning on making a Part 2, This Video is Clickbait!!!!!
I explained at the beginning that this is a fantasy video and was a video for years that needed a playoff in the bowl system before the Bowl coalition/alliance started. I started with the years in the 1990s that needed 1 vs 2.
No team with 2 losses should EVER be considered for some sort of a playoff. And I don't care how brutal your schedule was. You still lost...TWICE! In a playoff, every team but one (the champion) will have an additional loss. Meaning, the champion will have a MAXIMUM of one loss overall. Two losses already before a playoff? Sorry... good luck in the Weedeater Bowl, and enjoy watching the playoffs on TV.
Well then teams would play the weakest regular season schedule possible.... scheduling multiple FCS schools to ensure a win.
Definitely got a FSU fan here
@@erinnarmstrong993 No, they wouldn't. All but maybe a half-dozen schools are in conferences. Conferences are rivalry games, by and large. REVENUE GENERATING games. You think Alabama will give up a date with Auburn or Georgia to schedule some "Northeastern Delaware A&I"-type cupcake and see the stadium half full? No way that would happen.
@@user2008- Nope. Golden Gophers. SKI-U-MAH, baby!
All that a playoff system was originally supposed to do was produce two teams so that the champion could be determined on the field, not by a flawed polling system. The absolute best idea was for the normal season to play out, and then have the top four teams in a "plus one" format to produce the final championship game. Never has a 5th place team ever deserved to be in the championship game, so the top four teams would be sufficient. But younger and louder voices than mine just had to be like the NFL. When an 8-5 team worms their way into the playoff, we'll know it's a steaming pile of excrement.
You seem to be giving the Title to Colorado outright in 1990.....and they had a loss AND a tie. Georgia Tech took the coaches poll. And you say it the same way for 1991...with Miami winning the title. Actually Washington won 3 of the 4 major National Championship Trophies that were handed out. ( The coaches poll,the NFF Trophy and the Grantland Rice Trophy. But the single biggest horseshit deal of all time was in 1978 USC and Alabama split the two major polls. A split poll.....well it was to bad they couldn't have met and settled it on the field! OH...WAIT A MINUTE.....they did meet in 1978 with USC traveling down to Birmingham and soundly defeating the tide 24-14! The single dumbest thing I have ever seen in sports! I have argued with Bama fans on this before....their logic always goes to...well Alabama beat #1 Penn st so they deserved the title. Well according to their own logic....Penn st should still have been crowned champions because that loss shouldn't matter.....I mean Bama's loss to USC was discounted in Tide fans minds! I saw the the 78 game between Bama and SC......and it wasn't even as close as the score. USC was much bigger physically and pushed them around the field all day! Bryant even admitted after the game "they are a helluva lot better than we are".
Actually if you watch my video on the 1990 season I don't pick Colorado to be the national champion. And Miami won the AP National title which Washington did not and that is why I wanted them to play each other.
@@WrongedSports I understand about 1991....and 1994 and 1997.....all would have been great #1 vs #2 match-ups. I enjoyed this video....I guess I went on a bit of a rant about 1978! lol
@@ynp1978 you are certainly ok with the rant on 1978 cause it's valid. Thanks for watching. I wanted to clarify myself