@@danspotter8618 well since GBRF have basically removed its chance to go back on the mainline by removing it from the program and written it off, no. no it won't be going back on the mainline.
I have never been particularly attracted to the class 56, but , as it sort of carries the DNA of 47 and 50, the class deserves to have a reasonable number preserved as 56s. And whether as 56 or 'modern conversions' its good to see them in day to day use.
Not that surprised, really. These locos have reached past the 40 year mark, and I thought they'd be retired earlier than that. Fingers crossed it does get preserved.
You probably like them because they don't ying-ying-ying... In USA it's been EMD ever since steam finished - and the EMD ying-ying is better than the clank-clunk-clank-clunk of the steamers.
Nice video great camera work as usual I am really looking forward to seeing your next video I hope you get a nice video next time also when is your next video going to be on RUclips bye for now Philip
Oh no this is sad news. Hopefully it gets preserved on a heritage railway. Definitely shouldn't get scrapped though, wouldn't be suprised though if GBRf are considering to turn in into a class 69. It has such a nice livery, hope it avoids the scrappers torch . Although all great things must come to an end Hopefully it still will have a life into the future. Thanks for the information, great footage of 081 at work as well. 👍
It is now - 097’s got a bent frame and isn’t suitable. 081 is the new donor. (Edit: or not… apparently any damage is reparable and it’ll be staying. Just spares for 081 now…)
@@bfappleGBRf never provide official confirmation of anything anyway, no matter what it is. This particular gen was not speculation but came from a friend with a contact at UKRL in Leicester, but it has turned out 097 is still usable and 081 will return to just being spares.
Was it English or Romanian built. I remember jumping up and down in dog sh alley (I never knew it's name - I never saw any). I jumped so I could see through the paint and erection shop windows. And a cruel kid telling me those cabs and pile of scrap were the remains of 55018 the last of the class I needed to see them all - hence my favourite I'd been told it would never leave Finsbury Park it stopped right in front of us at a signal they never stopped at and my bad news telling mate was with us!! I was only 12.
I don’t think GBRF would be converting it into a 17th class 69, I believe they only have 16 power units for the program. There are well over a dozen 56s left, so it’s not like this is last of a kind
@@Channel-ij5px Yes, I did see that elsewhere. I do suspect that GBRf would rather have 18 class 69s, but unfortunately they only have the 16 engine blocks
@@andrewreynolds4949 it’s sad considering the amount of work went into restoring 56097 and now since it’s mostly stripped it will just be scrap, at least If it was a 69 it could of being mainline running and maybe even have some sort of plaque/nameplate dedicated to those who restored 097
These private companies sure like throwing money to the wind by rebuilding Loco's and then scrapping them, may be the whole Railways should be renationalised.
This one hasn’t been rebuilt yet, and probably won’t be scrapped anytime soon. If one has a bent frame like rumors say they’re going to pull it off the conversion line instead of putting work into it.
No. It's a Ruston Paxman, so from the same parentage. Though what you can hear is the turbocharger and I don't know who made them for RP, but I don't think they built their own. I might be wrong but I suspect they were Napier turbos (as in English Electric). It's likely a very similar turbo to the Valenta.
@@Danse_Macabre_125 thanks. It's quite a distinctive sound. Hopefully soon we'll hear a Valenta powered HST return to the network, if Project Miller complete their ambition. Out of curiosity, do the 56s make that same 'grunt' noise when running up as the Valenta does?
Maybe the "clowns" are trying to run a business, and keeping around locomotives that they don't need, just because you like them, doesn't make financial sense?
56097 has been removed from the class 69 program after bends were found in the chassis mid strip down, 081 is its replacement in the program.
Will 56097 be returning to Mainline again love to see her on Charters and in its Trainload Coal Livery if the bends were repaired and fixed
@@danspotter8618 well since GBRF have basically removed its chance to go back on the mainline by removing it from the program and written it off, no. no it won't be going back on the mainline.
@@Funclive OK 👍
It can have one more journey to Rotherham.
We LOVE to see refurbishments! 😊
The scrapper's torch will remain unlit for a few more years to come!
Got to love that sound. Takes you back to the 80's
Saw 56081 at Longport on the way to the Battle of Nantwich last weekend.
Sad news for us enthusiasts, but to be fair, 56081 [along with 56098] were due to be stood down after the GBRF class 56 farewell railtour last January
I have never been particularly attracted to the class 56, but , as it sort of carries the DNA of 47 and 50, the class deserves to have a reasonable number preserved as 56s. And whether as 56 or 'modern conversions' its good to see them in day to day use.
It’s the closest sounding Loco to an original Class 43 powercar as well, i love the sound !!!
Its a train, why would you not like the 56 ? Enjoy it all why not
Not that surprised, really. These locos have reached past the 40 year mark, and I thought they'd be retired earlier than that. Fingers crossed it does get preserved.
Got some good pics of her at Leicester about 2 weeks ago - sad seeing this
56081 is going to be used as a Class 69 upgrade machine being Re-Engineered.
Long live the 'Grids' awesome sounding loco's
You probably like them because they don't ying-ying-ying... In USA it's been EMD ever since steam finished - and the EMD ying-ying is better than the clank-clunk-clank-clunk of the steamers.
Excellent video 👍
The 56’s well what remains have grown on me
oh such a shame seeing a 40+plus year old loco going to be stored is way out but so sad seeing it being retired
Nice video great camera work as usual I am really looking forward to seeing your next video I hope you get a nice video next time also when is your next video going to be on RUclips bye for now Philip
56081 will make one last journey on Wednesday Leicester to Longport
Great video👍
Oh no this is sad news. Hopefully it gets preserved on a heritage railway. Definitely shouldn't get scrapped though, wouldn't be suprised though if GBRf are considering to turn in into a class 69. It has such a nice livery, hope it avoids the scrappers torch . Although all great things must come to an end Hopefully it still will have a life into the future. Thanks for the information, great footage of 081 at work as well. 👍
i think they are converting it into a class 69. Really sad
@@Trainsinleeds Much more dislike of the Yingrids than the Yingduffs (Class 57)...
And I'm sure it's had a new lick of paint as well.
On real-time trains the path to go to longport has been removed, don’t know if this is a 47 or a 56 but there’s a path to go to Kettering.
It’s been pushed back by 24hrs.. 👍
Sad news
This is very sad, never seen a grid and really want to, definitely doesnt deserve to be scrapped!
Crewe is a good bet for finding one, usually a couple a day through there
@@johnselekta the only problem is that it’s 160 miles away!
@@fphtrainsAHH yeah similar, am in deepest Devon where Beeching put the N in cut!
@@johnselekta i’m in devon as well!
Colas in Westbury is probably the closest to you in Devon to see a grid 👍
What are the two grey trains that were being moved?
Those are Class 805’s for Avanti West Coast 👍
Awesome video well done
I hope 081 & 098 are preserved. If not, I hope they retain their current liveries when they are converted
i think it might be converted to a class 69 :( Sad day for GBRF
I was told it was being stripped for parts! Preferably the chassis
@@trainspottingwithdanYT oh right
The chassis and bogies are primarily what they’re using in the 69 program, so yes, you could say they’re stripping it for parts
Isn’t it a donor body for the 69 fleet
Not at present but it could be added as an additional loco (as 017)..
It is now - 097’s got a bent frame and isn’t suitable. 081 is the new donor.
(Edit: or not… apparently any damage is reparable and it’ll be staying. Just spares for 081 now…)
@@al66class59 GBRf hasn't provided any official confirmation. So there's no point in speculating.
@@bfappleGBRf never provide official confirmation of anything anyway, no matter what it is. This particular gen was not speculation but came from a friend with a contact at UKRL in Leicester, but it has turned out 097 is still usable and 081 will return to just being spares.
@@al66class59 the last update that I received from GBRf is that 081 and 098 won’t be converted. Hence my comment about speculation.
56081 might be converted to a class 69 :(
Was it English or Romanian built. I remember jumping up and down in dog sh alley (I never knew it's name - I never saw any). I jumped so I could see through the paint and erection shop windows. And a cruel kid telling me those cabs and pile of scrap were the remains of 55018 the last of the class I needed to see them all - hence my favourite I'd been told it would never leave Finsbury Park it stopped right in front of us at a signal they never stopped at and my bad news telling mate was with us!! I was only 12.
081 was English built. 001-030 were the Romanian built models 👍
Just Rebuild it into a class 69 and it can still work
I don’t think GBRF would be converting it into a 17th class 69, I believe they only have 16 power units for the program.
There are well over a dozen 56s left, so it’s not like this is last of a kind
56097 was the sixteenth loco but it’s got a bent frame and is therefore unsuitable hence 56081s re addition into the conversion list
@@Channel-ij5px Yes, I did see that elsewhere. I do suspect that GBRf would rather have 18 class 69s, but unfortunately they only have the 16 engine blocks
@@andrewreynolds4949 it’s sad considering the amount of work went into restoring 56097 and now since it’s mostly stripped it will just be scrap, at least If it was a 69 it could of being mainline running and maybe even have some sort of plaque/nameplate dedicated to those who restored 097
Maybe it's be reincarnated as a 69?Life in the old dog yet?
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These private companies sure like throwing money to the wind by rebuilding Loco's and then scrapping them, may be the whole Railways should be renationalised.
This one hasn’t been rebuilt yet, and probably won’t be scrapped anytime soon. If one has a bent frame like rumors say they’re going to pull it off the conversion line instead of putting work into it.
Right decision. Business cannot operate minority fleet its not commercial good practice
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Has that got an old hst engine in it
You would think so
No. It's a Ruston Paxman, so from the same parentage. Though what you can hear is the turbocharger and I don't know who made them for RP, but I don't think they built their own. I might be wrong but I suspect they were Napier turbos (as in English Electric). It's likely a very similar turbo to the Valenta.
@derektaylor2941 They are napier turbos indeed. SA-085s on the Class 56, Valenta HSTs had either SA-084s or NA256s (some had one, some had the other)
@@Danse_Macabre_125 thanks. It's quite a distinctive sound. Hopefully soon we'll hear a Valenta powered HST return to the network, if Project Miller complete their ambition.
Out of curiosity, do the 56s make that same 'grunt' noise when running up as the Valenta does?
why ? .. sell it to DCR
Four of six traction motors gone. Heard 56097 has a bent frame from canton days so it’ll probably be replacing it in the class 69 project now
cant see why the clowns have retired 56.081 could have kept it, and used it on specials or as a promotion loco.
Maybe the "clowns" are trying to run a business, and keeping around locomotives that they don't need, just because you like them, doesn't make financial sense?