Unfortunately it was worse than that, to force through and justify privatisation of the railways, the government at the time ensured BR kept failing and underfunded it to make the case for private ownership and convince the public to want privitisation. Now look at the utter disconnected mess of foreign ownership we have, and all profits extracted out to other countries' own railway networks...
As epitomised in Macmillan's comments to the the House of Commons on 10th March 1960 as quoted in the Beeching's "The Reshaping of British Railways": First the industry must be of a size and pattern suited to modern conditions and prospects. In particular, the railway system must be remodelled to meet current needs and the modernisation plan must be adapted to this new shape. Mind you, Churchill, as President of the Board of Trade, said roughly the same thing in 1909 when he said the railways didn't have a future without rationalisation and amalgamations. That was one of his better statements.
Indeed. Anyone shocked by the axing of HS2 hasn't looked back into rail history very far. With the APT - do 90% of the design work and then cancel the project and sell the technology to other countries. With HS2 - spend 90% of the money but ensure that the project as delivered provides no benefits whatsoever.
@@Dedubya- 👍 Very good comment, same in my country New Zealand. Our useless government politicians, have sold large amounts of land, and other assets to China 🇨🇳. For reasons no one understands, except them !!..
@@TheFrogfather1 I agree in general regarding the APT although only parts of the BR tech was sold to Fiat to improve on their existing tilting train tech. Regarding HS2 stopping at Birmingham, this means it is a total white elephant imo although isn't it `only' £ 35 Billion that will have been spent instead of £ 100 Billion for the full route? Not sure if £ 100 Billion included the branch to Leeds that has since been axed. The PM has ensured that HS2 is a white elephant by halving tax on domestic flights (cheekily, on the eve of the Cop26 climate summit in Glasgow).
Something you'll never forget about these 91's is that oh-so-distinctive cooling fan sound on start-up or in service. Sounds like something from MS Gundam.
Imagine if the government had invested in rail development in the 1980s - so many excellent designs like this one could have become world leaders - and exporters… another superb video, thank you so much for sharing! 😊
I agree, the possibilities were there. Just one example - imagine an OHL or diesel-powered version of the Class 442, which could have easily taken over routes such as the Midland Main Line, the Waterloo-Exeter or London-Norwich routes. They could have also taken the best parts of the Class 87 (which worked really well) as the basis for a 2nd Generation electric locomotive - and wouldn't it have been the most delicious irony if they HAD gone ahead with an electric HST, considering it was developed, in part, due to delays in the original APT project.
Utopian dreams. I can pretty much guarantee no one would be buying our trains private or public. Our car industry was nationalised, it was horrific and even ruined successful names like Jaguar. So I wouldn't fall for the socialist bullshit
Class 91s are still used on routes other than London, Newcastle and Leeds. They are a regular visitor up the former Midland Railway lines to Bradford and Skipton
Involved in two accidents in all those years of service, and nether of the two actually being the trains fault. I will forever be impressed by this lady of the line, being as I drove 91's and 43's for 17 years before retirement. I live right by the ECML and remember hearing both trains whine and thunder their way down the line. Sad it is now mostly Asumas. I remember all the problems with that as well, but people are quick to forget that. Your content is brilliant, you have given me so many golden memories.
The Mark 4 DVT were TOPS coded NZA (Driving Luggage Van with airbrakes) and were to diagram NZ502. They were numbered 82200 to 82231. Also in the 82xxx numbering series were the Mark3B DVT 9numbers 82101 to 82152. As any British rail enthusiast could tell you when it comes to locomotive-hauled coaching stock the number just identifies the vehicle and its type (First Class passenger coach, Gangwayed Brake, Genersl Untility Van, etc) and not its TOPS class, which is given by an alpha-numeric code, for example GK1G which is a HST Trailer Buffet First (G indicates a HST vehicle, K identifies it as a Buffet car, the 1 indicates that it carries First Class passengers and the final G indicates that it is of Mark 3 construction.
Thanks for this great summary which points up much of how we have got to where we are with Britain's railway. All I can say is, what an utter mess Govt underfunding and privatisation has made of our railways. All for ideology!
Hearing how the Tories destroyed trains back on the 80s and 90s feels eerily family to Rishi Sunak's announcement that he's going to cut green policies by a huge extent, offer out several oil contracts, and then merrily put all of this into the King's speech just to seal the deal on how nasty he is as a person.
@@TheCatOfWarCSGO I only said DVT's, I didn't state which ones. At the time of print in 2019 the three priority fleets were Hitachi GWR, Hitachi LNER and Siemens fleets for the North Western Region. It was a short term filler which they also did with Class 43 services which were used on the South West stopping services where they were needed as the DMU stock was outdated. Now the South West have 180's fully assigned with the odd 158 and 150 service restricted to branch line runs.
yay, my favourite train :) class 91's and 225 sets are the best, I love there looks and sounds and have very fond memories of travelling on them when back in 2018 I travelled in the cab from London :) cheers for the video mate very well illustrated, keep up the good work
Will miss these old monsters when they're gone, first one built less than I fortnight after I was born. Got many, many memories of these, even got invited into the cab of a 91 as a kid, way - way back at Kings Cross.
I remember seeing a few of those! June 10, 2023. I was with my family in England and we decided on that day to visit York, partially to see the rail museum and partially to relax in a park or by the river in a much less frantic atmosphere than London. On our way up and in the station I saw some 91s in their current LNER livery looking rather worn. Glad to have seen them in their final days of operation, though it was a bit interesting that our trip between King’s Cross and York and back was done in their successor, the 801.
I was surprised to find out how narrow these sets are being roughly 2.8m while most HST are 2.9m+ to 3.4m wide. Crazy legacy loading gauges. Fair enough only the TGV derivatives and BR made trains runs high speed lines in the UK
From the looks of it these locos are very stubborn as any attempt to get them off the ECML has failed also having them on heavy freight would be feasible, even if they are magically bounded to the ecml because these are some absolute UNITS with more hp then a lot of American diesels which if you account in them being British loading gauge is insane
I thought you were kidding but you are 100% right. Most big American diesels have somwhere around 4000 horsepower. The 91s have 6480. That's insane. Amazing locomotives
Electra class 91s are the ones that are the most dominant high speed trains of the east coast mainline and now as of today some of them are now off to scrapping
Great memories of the 7am York-KXX GNER 1st Class service of 20 years ago. Full Yorkshire Grill on the way down followed by 3 course Silver Service dinner on the 5pm return journey. Had my own car parking space next to Platform 1 courtesy of Albert. It only cost me a bottle of whisky for him and a bottle of advocaat for his wife every Christmas. #goodolddays
A few minor corrections. You said the IC125 was introduced in 1977. This is incorrect. On the Western, they entered service in 1976. On the East Coast in 1978. And on the Midland Mainline in 1982. The 140 top speed was thought achievable by BR using flashing green signals to signify two signal sections at green, or 5 aspect signalling with 4 signal sections before a red. However, the HMRI would not approve its use, saying that speeds over 125 mph would require in cab signalling as they felt drivers could not observe signals at the 140 mph speed. Many railway operators preferred the Class 89 to the Class 91, which was favoured by the track engineers who prefer 4 axle locos.
If you would like to get up and close to a class 91, then come and see our one in the museum of Scottish railways at the Bo’ness and Kinneil Railway, in Bo’ness Scotland 🏴 there’s a trailer car too but isn’t on public view (owned by a private company).
i remember quite clearly in the late eighties and im sure in 84 with hst 125 london to wakefield was 1 hr50 mins and leeds just over 2hrs did it many times now its 2 and half with the hitachi anyone know why we have gone backwards like concord
It reminds me of my beloved IR4 (derived from the danish ic3) except that its reliability got better after a noise filter was fitted. ABB scandia in Randers could have build more if Nyrup eletrified every central inter city route before the great belt bridge.
PS. Did anyone else notice the briefest of brief glimpses of the Class 141/142 Pacer in there when there was a train pulling into a station that could well have been York?
I'm fairly baised to the Class 390 as I grew up seeing and using them 24/7 being next to Trent Valley, the 91 has really grew on me I think its one of the better trains on the network now. Shame central wasnt able to get their service on the WCML during the COVID situation
Yet another highly interesting and enjoyable documentary; what a lot of Likes!! Well-deserved! Ruairidh I'm aware I might sound patronising I don't want to be just to give encouragement where encouragement is due 😊
I never understood why the nose of the DVT wasn’t built to be identical to the 91. It’s very similar, obviously, but not exactly the same, and not as well resolved. It seems narrower, the angle of the windscreen doesn’t seem quite right, there are flaps underneath the windscreen and why are the horns not behind the actual horn grille? Was Metro-Cammell just not able to duplicate the loco nose properly?
This essay nicely answers my question as to why Britain's high tech, heavy industry has collapsed. The sheer and utter imbecilic decision making process and the obsession with "might-be"'s is both sad and frustrating. To think of all the wasted opportunities because so many "important people" have a stake.
I don't know, but Class 91 is my fav British loco, and one of my all-time favorites. That's just something almost untrain-like about it that makes me such a fanboy.
With the odd arrangement caused by the delay in introducing The MK IV Stock and DVT's between The Class 43 and 91 at either end of a rake of MK III's generated a staggering 8550hp on tap.
never got to see a 91 sadly living in South Wales but they were the poster boys of British passenger services when i was little. would like to also suggest a Class 58 video
17:27 The underlying cause of the Hatfield crash was the failure of the privatisation contracts. The risks of weak privatisation performance based contracts were pointed out by unions and managers prior to privatisation but knowingly ignored. The politicians and the lawyers who wrote the contracts were the root cause. They as well as the contractor should have been prosecuted under Section 2 of HSWA.
Did you see that chap at the top of the ladder using his body weight to move the high end of the ladder sideways? H&S would lynch him for that if he was seen doing that nowadays.
I still think that LNER should retain the Class 91 "Intercity 225" Mk4 “Electra” units. Or are they going to give up on them from next year and to use the Class 801 Azumas to Leeds. It would be a great shame to see the iconic electric locomotives on the East Coast Main Line gone just like what happened with the Class 43 “Intercity 125”. When it was replaced by the Class 800 Azumas.
I sir adore You absolutely smashing work. I've pitched some topics, but even if Your work would not follow still this is for me pure joy to listen and look at the films You prepared.
17:46 The driver was prosecuted for this and was made a scapegoat for institutional failings. Although he fell asleep, if the rail overbridge had been adequately protected his vehicle would not have ended up on the tracks and the disaster would not have occurred. The Highways Agency should have recognised the foreseeable risk of a vehicle leaving the road and protected the rail tracks and protected the approach to the bridge accordingly. Their failure has been borne out by their subsequent program of installing additional safety fence on railway . If they were adequately protected by the Highways Agency in the first place the rail crash would ne er have occurred. A perfect example of institutional inadequacy covering their guilt by blaming an individual.
In fairness to the Government the deregulation of the industry was initiated by EU Directive 91/440 in 1991, which aimed to create a more efficient rail network by creating greater competition. However it was Godsent for the Tories to break up BR who they never seemed to like. They could have fought fiercely against the break up, sighting the efficiency of BR compared to other countries rail organisations, and asked for an exemption, but no, everything was sold off including great companies like BREL. Also there was no need to privatise, just to seperate track & signals from the trains. Search here on RUclips `Has Privatisation Killed Our Railways? | The Great Railway Disaster | Channel 4 Documentaries', very interesting.
Most 91's will probably be cut up as due to the more versatile 88's and soon 93's they are unlikely to be cascaded to freight .I suppose that they could replace the Freightliner class 90's but the 91's are pretty much as long in the tooth as the 90's.
The 91 has a very specific design purpose: to pull passenger trains at high speeds, where the extra power is useful. Class 90s have more tractive effort, making them more useful for freight. DB have also just withdrawn their 90s, largely due to the cost of electricity. The 90s are therefore a more suitable loco for the services on which they are currently being used.
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YEEEEES! Another vid from this channel whose i name i never say out loud but i like every video.
Same!
Rory McVay is how i pronounce it.
/rori makvεi/
It’s rory - not hard
It is pronounced Roo-ree according to the Scottish Ruairidh and Irish Ruaridh I know. Rory is the English equivalent (Ro-Ray)
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The british government always aims low when it comes to transport.
Aims low and misses.
Unfortunately it was worse than that, to force through and justify privatisation of the railways, the government at the time ensured BR kept failing and underfunded it to make the case for private ownership and convince the public to want privitisation. Now look at the utter disconnected mess of foreign ownership we have, and all profits extracted out to other countries' own railway networks...
As epitomised in Macmillan's comments to the the House of Commons on 10th March 1960 as quoted in the Beeching's "The Reshaping of British Railways": First the industry must be of a size and pattern suited to modern conditions and prospects. In particular, the railway system must be remodelled to meet current needs and the modernisation plan must be adapted to this new shape.
Mind you, Churchill, as President of the Board of Trade, said roughly the same thing in 1909 when he said the railways didn't have a future without rationalisation and amalgamations. That was one of his better statements.
Indeed. Anyone shocked by the axing of HS2 hasn't looked back into rail history very far. With the APT - do 90% of the design work and then cancel the project and sell the technology to other countries. With HS2 - spend 90% of the money but ensure that the project as delivered provides no benefits whatsoever.
@@Dedubya- 👍 Very good comment, same in my country New Zealand. Our useless government politicians, have sold large amounts of land, and other assets to China 🇨🇳. For reasons no one understands, except them !!..
@@TheFrogfather1 I agree in general regarding the APT although only parts of the BR tech was sold to Fiat to improve on their existing tilting train tech.
Regarding HS2 stopping at Birmingham, this means it is a total white elephant imo although isn't it `only' £ 35 Billion that will have been spent instead of £ 100 Billion for the full route? Not sure if £ 100 Billion included the branch to Leeds that has since been axed.
The PM has ensured that HS2 is a white elephant by halving tax on domestic flights (cheekily, on the eve of the Cop26 climate summit in Glasgow).
Something you'll never forget about these 91's is that oh-so-distinctive cooling fan sound on start-up or in service. Sounds like something from MS Gundam.
This may be heard in my video at 91127 visits Darlington 18.26, 19 June 2018
Has a hint of Vulcan howl about it
honestly it really does in a way @@simonn2045
Imagine if the government had invested in rail development in the 1980s - so many excellent designs like this one could have become world leaders - and exporters… another superb video, thank you so much for sharing! 😊
I agree, the possibilities were there.
Just one example - imagine an OHL or diesel-powered version of the Class 442, which could have easily taken over routes such as the Midland Main Line, the Waterloo-Exeter or London-Norwich routes. They could have also taken the best parts of the Class 87 (which worked really well) as the basis for a 2nd Generation electric locomotive - and wouldn't it have been the most delicious irony if they HAD gone ahead with an electric HST, considering it was developed, in part, due to delays in the original APT project.
Utopian dreams. I can pretty much guarantee no one would be buying our trains private or public. Our car industry was nationalised, it was horrific and even ruined successful names like Jaguar. So I wouldn't fall for the socialist bullshit
The DVTs were never known as a Class 82! It was numbered as a Non Passenger Coaching Stock.
Fantastic film of one of my favourite locomotives.
Class 91s are still used on routes other than London, Newcastle and Leeds.
They are a regular visitor up the former Midland Railway lines to Bradford and Skipton
They only go as far as York/ Skipton/ Bradford Forster square and Leeds.. not newcastle due to the expenses of train crew training
Brilliant. One of the missing BR classes I’ve been waiting for! Eagerly waiting a class 47 episode!!!!
Another fine example of what could have been if governments were not so anti-railways (and pro-profiteering!).
Involved in two accidents in all those years of service, and nether of the two actually being the trains fault. I will forever be impressed by this lady of the line, being as I drove 91's and 43's for 17 years before retirement. I live right by the ECML and remember hearing both trains whine and thunder their way down the line. Sad it is now mostly Asumas. I remember all the problems with that as well, but people are quick to forget that. Your content is brilliant, you have given me so many golden memories.
For an electric locomotive, their start up sounds quite spectacular with all the cooling fans kicking in. Great video!! 👍
They looked really Smart in GNER blue. Another great video
@5:55 I love the guy just looking at the guy using a welder with no eye protection. Very healthy and safe!
I really miss these amazing trains so comfortable and you can't beat that Electra roar!
These were the stuff of dreams for ‘90s kids looking through the Hornby catalogue
Really do like the class 91 living next to the ECML always a treat to see these running.
I hope at least one full set can be preserved for railtour use. Ideally in its original livery.
The Mark 4 DVT were TOPS coded NZA (Driving Luggage Van with airbrakes) and were to diagram NZ502. They were numbered 82200 to 82231. Also in the 82xxx numbering series were the Mark3B DVT 9numbers 82101 to 82152. As any British rail enthusiast could tell you when it comes to locomotive-hauled coaching stock the number just identifies the vehicle and its type (First Class passenger coach, Gangwayed Brake, Genersl Untility Van, etc) and not its TOPS class, which is given by an alpha-numeric code, for example GK1G which is a HST Trailer Buffet First (G indicates a HST vehicle, K identifies it as a Buffet car, the 1 indicates that it carries First Class passengers and the final G indicates that it is of Mark 3 construction.
The Mk 4 design was never as comfortable as the Mk 3 that preceded it. It took a lot of work to get them into service. A very good film, thank you.
Thanks for this great summary which points up much of how we have got to where we are with Britain's railway. All I can say is, what an utter mess Govt underfunding and privatisation has made of our railways. All for ideology!
0:30 This British Rail Intercity 225 High Speed Train Is A Bit Like The Japanese Bullet Train In Tokyo In Japan. Thanks Mate. X🚅
Hearing how the Tories destroyed trains back on the 80s and 90s feels eerily family to Rishi Sunak's announcement that he's going to cut green policies by a huge extent, offer out several oil contracts, and then merrily put all of this into the King's speech just to seal the deal on how nasty he is as a person.
Had the Hornby train set in 1996.
I did read that after their withdrawal from the ECML some DVT's operated the GER main line from Liverpool Street.
I don't think that's true? Mk4 sets were never used on the GEML, they used Mk3 DVTs with Mk3 carriages and Class 90s until replaced by 745 Flirt sets
@@TheCatOfWarCSGO I only said DVT's, I didn't state which ones. At the time of print in 2019 the three priority fleets were Hitachi GWR, Hitachi LNER and Siemens fleets for the North Western Region.
It was a short term filler which they also did with Class 43 services which were used on the South West stopping services where they were needed as the DMU stock was outdated.
Now the South West have 180's fully assigned with the odd 158 and 150 service restricted to branch line runs.
yay, my favourite train :)
class 91's and 225 sets are the best, I love there looks and sounds and have very fond memories of travelling on them when back in 2018 I travelled in the cab from London :)
cheers for the video mate very well illustrated, keep up the good work
Yay, finally. Great documentary! One of the best trains to ever run on the British network.
Glad to hear some are still in service. These are my favorite modern day locos
The classic documentary style made me love this video!
Will miss these old monsters when they're gone, first one built less than I fortnight after I was born. Got many, many memories of these, even got invited into the cab of a 91 as a kid, way - way back at Kings Cross.
I remember seeing a few of those!
June 10, 2023. I was with my family in England and we decided on that day to visit York, partially to see the rail museum and partially to relax in a park or by the river in a much less frantic atmosphere than London. On our way up and in the station I saw some 91s in their current LNER livery looking rather worn.
Glad to have seen them in their final days of operation, though it was a bit interesting that our trip between King’s Cross and York and back was done in their successor, the 801.
Excellent video - well researched and very informative
Regarding the Hatfield crash, the train would have been travelling at no more than 115mph as 125 running starts south of Knebworth.
I was surprised to find out how narrow these sets are being roughly 2.8m while most HST are 2.9m+ to 3.4m wide. Crazy legacy loading gauges. Fair enough only the TGV derivatives and BR made trains runs high speed lines in the UK
As I watched this on the train to work, a 225 set went past at Finsbury Park!
From the looks of it these locos are very stubborn as any attempt to get them off the ECML has failed
also having them on heavy freight would be feasible, even if they are magically bounded to the ecml because these are some absolute UNITS with more hp then a lot of American diesels which if you account in them being British loading gauge is insane
I thought you were kidding but you are 100% right. Most big American diesels have somwhere around 4000 horsepower. The 91s have 6480. That's insane. Amazing locomotives
@@krthecarguy5150 The class 91 is also significently smaller than the US diesels as well.
These would have looked great top and tailing Intermodal (225) freight.
Sad to see CL90s being removed from DB service as well.
Excellent documentary again 😊
Another great video Ruairidh.
Electra class 91s are the ones that are the most dominant high speed trains of the east coast mainline and now as of today some of them are now off to scrapping
Great memories of the 7am York-KXX GNER 1st Class service of 20 years ago. Full Yorkshire Grill on the way down followed by 3 course Silver Service dinner on the 5pm return journey. Had my own car parking space next to Platform 1 courtesy of Albert. It only cost me a bottle of whisky for him and a bottle of advocaat for his wife every Christmas. #goodolddays
A few minor corrections. You said the IC125 was introduced in 1977. This is incorrect. On the Western, they entered service in 1976. On the East Coast in 1978. And on the Midland Mainline in 1982. The 140 top speed was thought achievable by BR using flashing green signals to signify two signal sections at green, or 5 aspect signalling with 4 signal sections before a red. However, the HMRI would not approve its use, saying that speeds over 125 mph would require in cab signalling as they felt drivers could not observe signals at the 140 mph speed. Many railway operators preferred the Class 89 to the Class 91, which was favoured by the track engineers who prefer 4 axle locos.
There are two at HNRC Worksop yards being used as translators for shunting
If you would like to get up and close to a class 91, then come and see our one in the museum of Scottish railways at the Bo’ness and Kinneil Railway, in Bo’ness Scotland 🏴 there’s a trailer car too but isn’t on public view (owned by a private company).
i remember quite clearly in the late eighties and im sure in 84 with hst 125 london to wakefield was 1 hr50 mins and leeds just over 2hrs did it many times now its 2 and half with the hitachi anyone know why we have gone backwards like concord
And the 125 was much more comfortable as well!
that was a well made documentary with a great voice for narration
It reminds me of my beloved IR4 (derived from the danish ic3) except that its reliability got better after a noise filter was fitted. ABB scandia in Randers could have build more if Nyrup eletrified every central inter city route before the great belt bridge.
Only every went on one of these trains but they did look cool didn't they.??
PS. Did anyone else notice the briefest of brief glimpses of the Class 141/142 Pacer in there when there was a train pulling into a station that could well have been York?
It was a 141 in the original green and cream livery, and you're right - it was York!!
I'm fairly baised to the Class 390 as I grew up seeing and using them 24/7 being next to Trent Valley, the 91 has really grew on me I think its one of the better trains on the network now. Shame central wasnt able to get their service on the WCML during the COVID situation
Yet another highly interesting and enjoyable documentary; what a lot of Likes!! Well-deserved!
Ruairidh I'm aware I might sound patronising I don't want to be just to give encouragement where encouragement is due 😊
Could do with some punctuation David Crook 🙄 "I don't want to be patronizing; just encouraging"
I never understood why the nose of the DVT wasn’t built to be identical to the 91. It’s very similar, obviously, but not exactly the same, and not as well resolved. It seems narrower, the angle of the windscreen doesn’t seem quite right, there are flaps underneath the windscreen and why are the horns not behind the actual horn grille? Was Metro-Cammell just not able to duplicate the loco nose properly?
Nice to see your own work included in the video.
This essay nicely answers my question as to why Britain's high tech, heavy industry has collapsed. The sheer and utter imbecilic decision making process and the obsession with "might-be"'s is both sad and frustrating. To think of all the wasted opportunities because so many "important people" have a stake.
Having said that - the Class 91 and the "new" livery is absolutely delicious!
Seen a few at Leeds recently, looking resplendent in the ICE livery.
It's not ICE livery. It's the original Intercity Swallow livery
This is what Britain is good at making something that works well ,in a political world ,that doesn't like railway.40 years of tory britain
I am Lucky enough to get to work with these beasts, I’m going to be very sand to see them go
Give us some stories!
I don't know, but Class 91 is my fav British loco, and one of my all-time favorites. That's just something almost untrain-like about it that makes me such a fanboy.
Possibly the best intros/outros on YT!
Sad we never got to see 89 and the 91s in the Western Region.
Also if 7:30 isn’t a health and safety violation, I don’t know what is.
health and safety wasn't much a consideration in the past, very unsafe!
With the odd arrangement caused by the delay in introducing The MK IV Stock and DVT's between The Class 43 and 91 at either end of a rake of MK III's generated a staggering 8550hp on tap.
And an early form of hybrid train, both diesel & overhead wire electric
ngl thats a quite flexible bi mode train.
apart from the fact class 43's haft to have their engines constantly on.
I've watched so many videos on the Electra that I skipped pasted this when it was first posted assuming I'd already watched it
Great video of the 91s .. have you done such a video for the 90s ?
never got to see a 91 sadly living in South Wales but they were the poster boys of British passenger services when i was little. would like to also suggest a Class 58 video
Great video, as always.
Hi, can you please do a video about the LNER A1-3 for the flying scotsman's centenary?
I was waiting for this video and now it's here
17:27 The underlying cause of the Hatfield crash was the failure of the privatisation contracts.
The risks of weak privatisation performance based contracts were pointed out by unions and managers prior to privatisation but knowingly ignored.
The politicians and the lawyers who wrote the contracts were the root cause. They as well as the contractor should have been prosecuted under Section 2 of HSWA.
Been over the Hatfield curve hundreds of times travelling in the Class 43's 😢
Hun, Rory's Class 91 video just dropped!
The Class 87 are known as Electric Scots, but there is only service called the Royal Scot in each direction on the WCML.
As long as LNER have the East Coast franchise I don't see the remaining IC225's going anywhere anytime soon especially after they've been repainted.
that guy on the ladder... 0.0
oh, and the 91023... switching the numbers around to 91132? Ya, it's totally not cursed anymore. /s
Did you see that chap at the top of the ladder using his body weight to move the high end of the ladder sideways?
H&S would lynch him for that if he was seen doing that nowadays.
Wow, looks like something straight out of Syd Mead's portfolio!
These days they'd have gone with brushless traction motors, haha.
I still think that LNER should retain the Class 91 "Intercity 225" Mk4 “Electra” units. Or are they going to give up on them from next year and to use the Class 801 Azumas to Leeds.
It would be a great shame to see the iconic electric locomotives on the East Coast Main Line gone just like what happened with the Class 43 “Intercity 125”. When it was replaced by the Class 800 Azumas.
I love a 91 and i know the ride quality on the 800s is bad but to be honest the 91s arent great. They really bounce around, rattle and squeek
I sir adore You absolutely smashing work. I've pitched some topics, but even if Your work would not follow still this is for me pure joy to listen and look at the films You prepared.
Its a shame BR were never really given the opportunity by DfT
I suspect DfT never had much interest (because of political interference) in rail. Cars and motorways: how they seem to love those!
Are those sets still in service on the East Coast Mainline?
Unknowingly, I was on its first service, along with the queen.
A lovely train.
The class 91 are more comfortable than the azuma's. The azuma's rock , shake and rattle to much 🙃
Can you do one on big bertha
Good stuff 👍
City of Durham really did not have the best luck, while in service.
17:46 The driver was prosecuted for this and was made a scapegoat for institutional failings.
Although he fell asleep, if the rail overbridge had been adequately protected his vehicle would not have ended up on the tracks and the disaster would not have occurred.
The Highways Agency should have recognised the foreseeable risk of a vehicle leaving the road and protected the rail tracks and protected the approach to the bridge accordingly.
Their failure has been borne out by their subsequent program of installing additional safety fence on railway
. If they were adequately protected by the Highways Agency in the first place the rail crash would ne er have occurred.
A perfect example of institutional inadequacy covering their guilt by blaming an individual.
Will you ever cover 'Avocet' the last of the great British one-offs and the only one to survive out of the quartet Lion/Falcon/Kestrel/Avocet?
What was the problem with adding wires to the tracks at London Kings X? There seems to be plenty of room under that roof so I'm confused.
91110 Northern Rock was of course 91010 (and unnamed) when it hit 162mph!
60017 Silver Fox hauling the Elizabethan.
I read (on a forum) that the original 140 mph bogies were changed to those which ride better at 125mph. Any truth?
Can we have one of the 90 next?
7:28 did that giy almost fall off his ladder
These were as fast and strong as the S1 Niagaras and the S2 Super Niagara~
Seeing the video very early, 3 minutes after being published😅
🤔 And so ?. What do you want, a medal 🥉 for it !!...
A NEW VIDEO LETS GOOO 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Just as BR was getting good... Privatisation came along. How'd that turn out, eh, Tories? Kinda a running theme for them....
In fairness to the Government the deregulation of the industry was initiated by EU Directive 91/440 in 1991, which aimed to create a more efficient rail network by creating greater competition. However it was Godsent for the Tories to break up BR who they never seemed to like. They could have fought fiercely against the break up, sighting the efficiency of BR compared to other countries rail organisations, and asked for an exemption, but no, everything was sold off including great companies like BREL.
Also there was no need to privatise, just to seperate track & signals from the trains.
Search here on RUclips `Has Privatisation Killed Our Railways? | The Great Railway Disaster | Channel 4 Documentaries', very interesting.
What’s the difference between the mk3 DVT and the mk4 DVT?
the mk3 DVT has a V shaped grill while the mk4 DVT has a horizontal line shaped grill
@@voidjavelin23 is that the only difference that makes them a mk3 and mk4?
@@voidjavelin23 or are they different body shells if that makes sense? I’m guessing one is based off a mk3 and one off a mk4?
@@ashleywilson8033 the most stand out is mk4 dvt has a large cattle guard while the mk3 dvt has smaller ones
Also the 125 is icon
Whoo!
Most 91's will probably be cut up as due to the more versatile 88's and soon 93's they are unlikely to be cascaded to freight .I suppose that they could replace the Freightliner class 90's but the 91's are pretty much as long in the tooth as the 90's.
The 91 has a very specific design purpose: to pull passenger trains at high speeds, where the extra power is useful. Class 90s have more tractive effort, making them more useful for freight. DB have also just withdrawn their 90s, largely due to the cost of electricity. The 90s are therefore a more suitable loco for the services on which they are currently being used.