Can The Carpenters Iconic Sound Be Recreated? First Time Tori Holub Reaction [We've Only Just Begun]
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2024
- Karen, are you in there? This is my first time reaction to Tori Holub and also to anything related to the Carpenters. I love the song "We've Only Just Begun" too...you gotta check this out!
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• We've Only Just Begun ...
The making of video with Tori:
• How Did The Carpenters...
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Hi A-Aron! My ears were burning, I heard my name mentioned. I’m Joe and Tori was introduced to me last October by the miracle that is Algorithms. It’s been a ride ever since. I got to see Tori live a week or so ago at the Carpenters 55th Anniversary Celebration. As a matter of fact, at the end of the video the slide that popped up was my video I recorded of Tori live. The thumbnail has a picture of Tori in her red gown singing and her meeting Richard Carpenter for the first time. Richard surprised the whole group on the last night. He was great being interviewed by Chris May (who Tori shouted out in the 3 minute video!) his co-author, along with Mike Cidoni Lennox of “Carpenters: The Musical Legacy.” More about Chris, that short video is now about two years old, a much younger Tori if you noticed the hair color 🧐. When she shouted out Chris, she did not know that he would in about a year’s time would produce her cover of Georgia On My Mind! And no, she sounds NOTHING like Ray Charles! Andy mentioned her newest single which she I believe now, shot a music video for. Right after the 55th she stayed in L.A. and we saw pictures of her on a green screen set. She a young rabbit hole and she’s only just begun! Well done reaction! Oh and in his defense, side by side and there is a mash up video, Jim does a pretty good Richard. Besides being a genius for putting this all together!
One last thing. The Wings of Pegasus channel, Fil, analyzed Tori and this song. No autotune, no pitch correction natural singing! Guess who requested that one! 😊
Joe
Wow, honored to have you here ....I hope I did this justice. Thanks so much!
@@A-AronReacts silly, it’s my honor to watch your reaction! ❤️ I’m just Joe. 🤷🏻♂️ I’ve just learned a lot since October and got the thrill of a lifetime, meeting Tori.
@jbs256 You say that but I'm rolling out the red carpet for you as we speak 😜
@@AaronHillyer 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤗
Yes, this tribute to Karen & Richard is unforgettable! But now she growing each day in her OWN voice imo! She’s still so young and has a promising journey ahead of her! Feel so privileged to be able to listen to her as she is starting off! So grateful that Jim, Ron & Joe (& Dan) are promoting her! Most of all, omg, Richard met her! What a thrill that must have been!❤
Absolutely smashing!!!! It’s wonderful!!! I could listen to this all day. It is amazing all the effort put into this but Tori’s voice is beautiful. Such a wonderful production!!!
Her voice is in my head as much as Karens. She sang at the Carpenters Anniversary Party recently.
Tori has a beautiful voice for sure. Karen Carpenter though was truly one of a kind.
Thank you A-Aron! It seems that Tori has gained more noteriety from these reviews, than from her own videos. With very good reason! She sounds almost identical to Karen Carpenter. It doesnt hurt that she has exceptional backing from very talented people. It's hard to stop lostening to her. Thank you ahain for reviewing her! Great job!
A-Aron, thanks for your reaction and analysis. Thanks to my friend Ron R. for donating to have you create this video. Ron and I were lucky to have been introduced to Tori, by Joe, a few months ago when Tori's RUclips channel only had 3.4k subscribers. I never got to hear Karen Carpenter live but hope to hear Tori perform. Who would have ever imagined someone having a voice so similar? Tori already has a few original songs, so she is not just covering The Carpenters.
Thanks for the shout out, Andy!
@@jbs256 Thanks for joining TeeSpicer's Twitch stream and introducing her regular crowd to Tori. Sounds like you had a great time in California. AND you got to meet Tori.
@@andyschnell58 yes it was beyond belief! I have a great photo with Tori. And on the last day I’m mere feet away from RC. Too damn shy to go up to him. Did you see my video I shot of Tori? It was the cameo at the end of the video here! I wish I could monetize it, it would help pay for more reactions! Her dad teased me in the comments. Yes met Joe H too. Have a bunch of new friends. Lisa Budin an Australian singer who also performed that night. Said Tori was the voice of the night! This from a lady who has sold out the Sidney Opera House on numerous occasions! Yeah! Tori was the youngest singer, there was one backup singer who also appeared to be in her twenties. Also there was an audible gasp in the audience when she started to sing. My iPhone didn’t pick it up but I felt it.
@@jbs256 Just clicked on your name to get to your channel and the video. Will be posting a comment there soon.
@@andyschnell58 just saw this in my Gmail and caught this. I live in L.A. so local to Downey. It was a 25 mile drive. Traffic was the bummer at certain times. The drive home was always smooth.
The first time I heard Tori cover this song, I was absolutely blown away. She sounds so much like Karen that I had to listen for tiny differences just to make sure it wasn't really her. I think the only real difference is that she doesn't quite have Karen's lower register, and this would become more obvious if she covered a song like Superstar. But Tori's voice is amazing on its own behalf, and she is the best vocalist I have heard in decades.
Karen had The Basement. Tori is a few steps down the staircase to that. But! She can go high enough to cover Olivia and Karen never could go that high. So that is each unique and gifted.
Saw the Carpenters, Stillwater Ok OSU, in 71. This cover is as good as it gets.
Thanks Aron for your informative and insightful comments. I told you this was something special. Tori doesn't do just this song of course. She covers other carpenter songs, currently in short TikTok versions. But there will be a new one coming shortly. She also covers other artists and has released an original not too long ago. She is not trying to be Karen Carpenter for as she says herself, Karen Carpenter is irreplaceable. Her natural voice does sound a great deal Iike Karen but there are differences at times. The thing is if I walked into a room with my eyes closed I would think I'm listening to the Carpenters. What they do here is magic! Tori really does this as a tribute to that legendary duo. Jim Wilkas is her collaborator and producer in this performance. By the way, Jim and Tori live in different parts of the country which is why they have produced this remotely as a collage.
Thanks again for putting this together and I am sure I'll have more for you going forward. Peace out.
Good pre and post covid analysis. May never have known of her otherwise, bravo!
i got to hear a story about the beginning of the Carpenters from a friend at work he was engineer who also was a singer and got a week long gig at Lake Tahoe and took his backup band, a pianist and drummer after the week he realised he had less money then when he got there so when he got back to LA he decided to stick to being a well paid engineer and took his backup band to his brother in law who worked at one of the many music studios in LA and introduced the brother and sister backup band to him and the rest is history.
Tori was gifted with such a beautiful voice who just happens to sound like Karen still exceptional vocals 👏 👌
Beautiful work.
Tori is the re-incarnation of Karen Carpenter. Absolutely wonderful. I'm lost however when you get into technical sounds stuff
And Karen was a phenomenal jazz drummer. A double talent and one of a kind.
Richard was equally brilliant.
Tori’s strength is guitar and keyboards. A little drums for good measure. Look at her window box, is that a set I spy? Look for her cover of Crazy On You and any Beatles cover.
Hey A-Aron! I adored KC. So a singer has to really show her chops to come close to Karen. I love Tori! There's also a Japanese singer that comes very close also. Her name is: KOBAYASHI!
Akiko Kobayashi is fairly good, but nowhere near as good as Tori Holub. Maybe it's because English was not her native language, but Tori rules. Tori can't go as low a pitch as Karen Carpenter could but as Tori's voice further matures with time, this may evolve. Actually, you wouldn't want it too deep either. Anne Murray's pitch was a little too low on some notes and couldn't sing that high. Tori can sing Olivia Newton John's high notes and other notes better than Olivia in my opinion.
Really enjoyed that you played the second video. I don't have to explain to you, as I do with most other reactors, that she has a lot of chops, technically, using the Pro Tools sequencer. Heck, not even mentioning she has a TASCAM multitrack deck. Oh yeah, and she sings too. She's brilliant. Oh, what you may NOT know is that she does covers of many other artists, one of which is Olivia Newton-John, who sings in a higher range than Karen. On that cover, Tori affects a breathier, airier timbre, which is amazing.
I didn't mention the Tascam because a) she said it and b) they show it. Thanks so much!
Hey Aron, Nice reaction. I think that little discrepancy you are hearing is maybe not so much that James does not sound like Richard as it's he does not quite sound like a sibling of Tori.
I'm going to state that I am a big Angelina Jordan fan who started listening to your channel because of your reactions to her. That being said, before Angelina came along, Karen Carpenter was my favorite female vocalist and I have probably all their albums. Yes, most on vinyl and some on CD. You mentioned about the collaboration they did to put this performance together. I will say that the original Carpenters were one of the first groups to do this type of production. If you look at the credits on any of their albums you will find almost all of the vocals including the backups are performed by Karen and Richard. They of course had backup singers and instrumentalist when they performed live, but on their studio recordings they would start with just Richard on the piano and Karen singing the lead. They would then go back and keep recording over it with backup harmonies and add the other instrumentals. I've always loved Richard's arrangements and wish he could work with Angelina today, but I know he like me is getting pretty long in the tooth to be starting off with an 18 year old. All this being said, while I like all your reactions, I feel you do a much better job with Angelina because you have studied jazz and understand a lot of the background she has picked up by emulating the greats of the jazz world that came before her. I am not asking you to not do other artist, but I do think you should focus more on Angelina that any other because of your background in the music sector. One of the main reasons I point this out is because Angelina has so much content to get through, it's going to take a lot of time to catch up to where she is today. Peace and Love and hope all's well.
Thanks so much. To be clear, by this type of mashup, I meant more of the electronic (remote) mashup of videos like that. Yeah I probably would have never done this but received a paid request to react to this specifically and when someone takes the time and money out like I feel it's a requirement to respond and do it. That said, I definitely should have listened right beforehand and would have had a fresh basis of comparison. Even though with Angelina, yes I know the genre and artists better, I listen to some of the other artists right before doing the reaction to have some basis / comparison in mind. I really appreciate you and everything you shared. The Carpenters were never really a group I followed much. Not because I didn't like them but just because I didn't lol. It's not even the era nor the style of music...for some reason never dug deep specifically with this group and there is no real reason for it
I always wondered why when the Carpenters were live on the road that they didn't have 1 or 2 female backing vocalists to better replicate the studio sound. I recall ABBA would have at least 2 female backing vocalists when live, and that's with 2 females already in the group. A Carpenters song could have at least 12 Karen overdubs, so at least an extra female voice or two on the road would have helped, or maybe Karen didn't want it.
I have to make sure to watch his reaction video after someone finally requests or pay requests to him to listen to Hayley.Ryan hart doing CREEP, with Post Modern Jukebox
Just another thought, I said they started with the piano and Karen on vocals, but Karen also played the drums on most of their recordings.
On this one it was Hal Blaine in studio. Carpenters of course.
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Also wasn’t it usually Joe and Hal laying down a beat first?
It's a very good copy.
The original record has been burned in our brains, but it is good to remember that Karen sounded "different" every time she sang the song...The positioning of the orchestra, the acoustics of the room and maybe slight vocal irritations. Unless there are shenanigans, there are differences. Tori is close enough for "covernment" work. In March, she dropped a brand NEW "Carpenters" song and a vid is coming soon...It is really "Something To Believe In."
I agree. But I grew up in the '70s listening to the Carpenters and this has to be the closest I have ever heard to the original.
Also, human being can’t reproduce the same sound twice in a row or ever. Every attempt at a vocal is different. To the ear it may be the same but to technology, each is unique and different. Like a fingerprint, so are our voices.
So true. I remember being at a jam session and we took a break and someone said hey show me that lick you just played that went like xyz. I was like no. "What?".
My response: "I don't remember what I played". And I thought even if I did, I'll definitely play it differently
She's close....
She has a beautiful voice.... It is not about comparing, sing it your self. Sorry you you are handicapped, you made your self that way. Who crippled you?
How is she on the drums?
She can keep a beat and does play. Take a careful look at the video, what is she sitting by??? Hint it’s blue. 🥁
Oh and her strength is on guitar and piano. Look for her cover of Crazy On You and any Beatles cover.
She should play a drum too.👍🙂
She does, just not at Karen’s level. Now, guitar and piano … have you checked her video libraries?
No. She was unique.
Superficially she sounds like Karen however Karen's voice was deeper and fuller.
She doesn't sound all that much like Karen Carpenter. Lot of differences in their voices. Nice voice though.
This sounds like a AI joke to me, she can't have the same voice as Karen.
Nope, no AI, no Autotune, no pitch correction. That’s 100% Tori and Jim. Wings of Pegasus in early March did an analysis and then a follow up video too.
just stop
Wait a minute, Mr. Postman 🎶
@@briank10101waaaaaaiiiit, Mr. Postman.
Fake, Lip syncing
😂Nope.🤣
No fakeness here. Someone with "productions" in their username should know better.
Education is not for everyone, clearly. Maybe take the star out of your logo & "productions" from your name?... neither appear a good fit for you.
Wings of Pegasus analyzed this song and Tori. Both are real.
was not that is her voice