To me people nowadays are trying to min-max everything and by doing that they optimize fun out of the game. That is the problem why games aren't fun anymore to a lot of people.
On point. I see my friends on discord getting into diablo 4 since a week. I was then thinking I should dive in with them. Until I saw they were already putting guides, min maxing videos and just maps of everything to do at high level in the discord chat. No thanks. I find this way of playing a game so boring and ruining the fun of discovering the world. At least for your first character.
And to alot is not fun when you don't have what to min-max. When you have just some trivial casual content that don't mater its just not worth or fun doing it.
this is absolutely true. I was kinda burned out as well because I was in this min-max treatmil. luckily for me I did find my wife and she started to play with me and we just didnt care about the min-max-elites but played something for the sole purpose of having fun. It really changed the way I am playing.
Indeed, a friend of mine was burnt out trying to work on Aurora and Vision at the same time. I prevented my burnouts by only taking 1 goal at a time and make sure to reserve certain afternoons for other activities.
I've been playing GW2 on and off since release. It's probably one of my favorite - if not my favorite - video games. And I like that you have no pressure to keep up with anything, you can just take a break and get right back into it. Like you said, it's a game that doesn't make you choose one over the other. GW2 is like a friend you don't always see regularly, but when you do, it's a cozy and familiar feeling.
As a fellow gamer-dad, I appreciate your honest takes on games - glad to see you being open with your audience about the dips you go through. Keep making content you're excited about.
The shty part is he can't... at least, not the way he likely wants to. YT punishes you on the algo if you stray too much from what little box they put you in. I speak from personal experience.
Perfectly understandable, mate. I had a 'break' last year because I burnt myself out by just spending two or three hours a night 'farming'. Spot on about Soto too - it's awfully low on replayable fun.
I know of an agency vtuber who plays ffxiv on their "off-time" but doesn't stream it. Because they don't want it to become their job. Something to that I think.
Glad to know you still love GW2. I started to play it (even though I registered in 2012) last year because of your content. As a gamer dad myself and have only played WoW, I can understand your situation. It is the grind that burns us out, so I plan my play time based on what I feel like doing, except for the jumping puzzles that make me wanna rage quit.
I've tried GW2 twice before, but when you don't have any friends in it and don't know what you are doing it's so confusing and I didn't know what I was doing. I couldn't find the story and I just ended up giving up again.
Same deal here. I gave GW2 a try something like 5 times by now and I always quit before level 80. And I don't understand why because everytime I play, I have a BLAST... for about a week. But I think trying to figure out what to do other than 100% maps in the world and playing (usually) by myself tends to get old quickly? I dunno. I always think of going back, all the time, and I have a great time for a little while... Maybe I should do it again.
The story is actually one of the few things the game guides you to pretty reliably. But then again, I actually really like that gw2 lets you figure stuff out by yourself. So maybe I am a bit biased. 🤷 I play solo btw and make heavy use of /wiki.
I've never once been able to come back to GW2 and just "pick up where I left off" on my character. Always had to relearn the class due to the way the builds and weapons work, it just doesnt *ever stick*. My main pain point over the years of comingg and going from GW2
@@330DKNY The only change you would need to do is buy a new relic in the trading post and maybe change your amulet to make your class viable again. That's nothing compared to all other mmos where you would need to grind the entire gear sets and weapons and enchants every 6 months.
@@jediwarlock1 I remember when I got back to Black Desert. New "end game" gear dropped and all the farming plots I put down were thrown back into storage and I have to put them back up again. My muscle memory didn't fail me but the game really hated how I left it for months. 😂
I also stopped. I played Secrets of the Obscure, but I really just do not like the whole Daily/weekly system. I much prefered when they were just simply gold, AP, and some basic resources, but I hate when it's a currency that is only obtained by the dailies/weeklies. Not only that but it's arbitrary goals, most I really do not want to do. Jumping puzzles, take a castle keep, eh.... It took a massive hit in my books on enjoyability.
I fully agree with you. While the new Daily/Weekly system is pretty neat in terms of astral acclaim & freedom to spend, I miss the old dailies. I really do not like some of the WvW and PvP dailies/weeklies. So much that I entirely put on PvE dailies/weeklies. This is the part that sucks because I would go into WvW and PvP more frequently and knock out the slightly easier ones. I was trying to understand why my burnout was accelerated and it finally came to me that I am not super happy with some things about SOTO/new daily system. I’ve been taking a break in 2024 so far. I’m sure I’ll go back because I love GW2, but I definitely just need a long break after playing almost every night for a while naturally… and admittedly accidentally min-maxing stuff.
@@Shortay1325 exactly. I much rather have freedom in how I play. Some dailies and weeklies are open ended. Like simply identifying gear. What I really hate is just overall feeling of fomo. But that's why I preferred when rewards were more generic, and not feeling like I'm missing points I could be getting.
And this is one of the major reasons why I love Guild Wars 2. I too hit a burnout phase but it didn't feel like I was missing out. I put it down, played other games, got older, came back and it felt like I never left. I hope this never changes. Props to you for widening your perspective in the genre.
I saw all of your videos when i started playing, you are the reason I learned half of my knowledge in GW2. Thank you for that. Rn Im also burned out, but ill be back again someday
Started on pre launch, stepped away in 2017. Perfect Victory, Norn Berzerker, spawned in Verdant Brink (no recollection of why I was there) today. We will ol see how that goes ❤️⚔️
for over 6000k game hours, i have had many break from the game, sometiems weeks, sometimes months, but that is the best thing on this game, its just there w8 for me and i dont have lost anything than maybe some festivals. many times breaks comes after long grinds, like legendary or skyscale. that is the spice of this game, if you want you could just play 24/7 grinding, or you can play very casually 15 minutes a day for dailys and everything you do always stack from some long term gols you can make
I'm glad you're finding that balance. I've never understood how content creators could stay happy playing one game. I'm happiest on a pretty frequent rotation between GW2, WoW, and FF14, with single player games thrown in too. Each MMO does something differently really well, and each has its weakness. I realized when I was getting burned out on FF14 the answer wasn't to be mad at the game, but to go play games that did that missing thing really well.
FF14 is great, but playing it definitely made me appreciate what GW2 has that other games do not. A robust open world topping the list. FF14 also left a bad taste in my mouth in that They dropped an Xpac, took my money and when the xpac somehow glitched my account so I couldn't log in at all for two weeks, and after several patches... the support team basically said ..."shrug, too bad for you." Squaresoft. Basically scammers from India caliber customer support.
We can all use a break, short or long. I too have not been thrilled with SOTO and all that foggy/pink/copypaste zones and architecture. The new expansion brings us back to Tyria and beautiful nature zones. Have always enjoyed your GW2 content/guides and I hope to see you again for the new expansion. But in all cases, be sure to have fun! ;)
I think thats the biggest Problem with Games these days. Sticking to ONE Game doesnt work anymore, thats why i play for example GW2, Valheim and The Division 2.
Burnout happens fast. If you focus too much on the Goal. I see so many nubs rush their Skyscales, story, Qs, and then they are just spending their remaining time showing it all off in lowlevel zones... No wonder these people quit Lol! Guys... take it slowly... have alts... Enjoy the journey... play with friends.
100% this. My friends go into speedrunning mode whenever they start a game or new content comes out. Then they spend most of their time chatting and showing off their amazing gear and mounts in the starter zones or in the pvp lobby. Meanwhile there's me taking months to conclude anything, while having the most fun of my day messing with the npcs and stuff like that, just taking my sweet time, while working on my goals. lol Any game looses its fun really fast once people simply wanna go competitive.
GW2 and FFXIV compliment each other very well if you're planning on playing the 2 games. I love MMOs, and I juggle between a few of them to avoid getting burnt out. I play FFXIV, GW2, ESO, BDO, WoW (currently), LotRO, Destiny 2 and Division 2. I jump between those games every 2-4 months but I don't really do high end raiding (except FFXIV), in GW2 I stopped raiding after I got my legendary armors back in 2019 and only do raids in other games once for the experience. I'm just waiting for Dawntrail then I'm hopping back to 14 .
It has happend to me before, but I will never leave Guild Wars 2. This game has given me too much love from all sides. I will get burned out and will switch from time to time, but I will play this game until my blood runs dry.
I stopped playing GW2 back during HoT update due to issues in my personal life. Just getting back into it now. Have found it helpful to go between personal story and clearing maps. The memories this is bringing back are all good ones! But I do understand burnout. I try to rotate through games and go from GW2 to metroidvanias, to standard RPGs. It helps me enjoy gaming as a whole.
I stopped playing GW2 shortly after the most recent expansion dropped. I didn't care for it, so I stopped. Been playing other things and back to WoW. New expansion looks like it's going to be a blast.
After 7k hours in gw2 I did quit and I will not come back. There are multiple reasons but the main one is how the game became old with mechanics and content. Of course a lot has been added but content has not changed at all. Pve used to be nice years ago, now it is just a memory of something that was good. Also what I started to hate about GW2 is how many actions are happening on the screen. Red circles here, yellow circle there, green circle again here and so on… it is just too much happening and it leads to exhaustion. I don’t want to compare gw2 to other games cuz all of them from the market have own issues but gw2 in particular have issues with no refreshed content which just became old due to no meaningful updates after years. But anyway… if there are ppl who never tried gw2 I highly recommend it as it is very casual friendly game, just keep in mind that after a while there is basically nothing meaningful to do.
Some of us are heavy on being casuals. Once I join a guild and they start scheduling shit I’m like yea hard pass this feels like a job I play to have fun
I had the same issue with perspective back in the day when I ONLY played runescape. Didn't know just how far games have come over the years. Now I've tried final fantasy and gw2 and loving them both
I spent like 10 solid years playing league of legends, daily, tryhard, i had a passon for it, knew the game so much that friends stopped inviting me to 5v5 rankeds cuz they had nothing to do if im locked in, and it felt amazing, yet patch by patch they slowly killed a game to the point of missery, solo carrying isnt a thing, tanks deal damage while dps classes cry doing nothing and i started a search for something new, and oh my have i found the game for me, gw2 was literaly insane exprience, so many classes, abilities, builds, things to see and do.. Now the game of league feels like living inside of a small box, having only 4 abilities, few if any builds..freedom to do whatever i want is wild. A peacefull life without playing pvp games
Burn out happens. It's why I have a little set of MMOs that I cycle through. The great thing is that once you're burnt out on one there's probably new content for another.
Im currently playing both games trying to get ready for Dawntrail. It's interesting to see the differences between the things I like and dislike about both games
I haven't logged into GW2 in probably 6 months because of burnout. I did the exact same as you, grinded out vision for a month or two and then immediately started aurora. I never stopped to smell the roses and ended up quitting (again). Looking forward to casually enjoying the new expansion and milling around with some of the achievements for other things in my spare time.
I took a 3 year long break starting from the beginning of LWS1. I don't regret it. The game felt new and exciting again when I came back, and in part, it was. A break is hardly ever a bad idea, especially in a game with horizontal progression.
I just started a free account a few weeks ago, and I hit lvl 80 a couple nights ago. Your videos have taught me quite a lot about how to approach the game as an old GW1 player. The nostalgia hits are strong, but so far I've been enjoying checking out the maps, the fact that random quests spawn while I'm hanging around is very cool. This game actually works the way my gaming brain works... Playing Hogwarts legacy has also been a blast, but my time exploring in that game doesn't necessarily advance anything. In GW2 it actually does, and that's incredible. I will say I took a long break from exploration style to do hologram stampedes. I had no idea what I was doing at first (and didn't really do any other part of dragon bash), but kind of figured out how that mode works and had fun running after the crowd that was flying and roller beetling their way to the next point. That was a very long post for a youtube video, but I just wanted to share a little bit of my new player experience because you've helped me enjoy the game. Whatever you're doing today I hope you're having fun doing it!
I loved the heck out of GW2 and I still think it was the best value for money you can get in the MMO space, but... I feel like I'm just completely done with the game now. I haven't played it in years, and now if I decide to play Janthir Wilds I'll have to play through 3 expansions (Icebrood Saga + End of Dragons + Secret of the Obscure) to catch up, so that's a bit daunting.
I'm BRAND NEW to Guild Wars 2, it is the first Tab-Target mmo i've played since City of Heroes. I have played lots of action combat MMO's like TERA, BDO, ESO, Neverwinter. And from my personal experience, I am enjoying GW2 from a very casual perspective. It's been a super chill game to step away from all the action-combat MMO's that I'm used to. Currently Elden Ring and GW2 has been my rotation and it's hittin all the bases for me at the moment.
I stopped back in Feb. Just couldn't focus in game on anything. Just started playing again first of June and I'm focused again now. Breaks are good. The longer the better. I do the same with every game I play. I rotate in a way. I'm not back full time in GW2 just yet. I want to be fresh still for the new expansion. Best thing about this game is it's not WoW. I can take a break for as long as I want and not lose ground other than having to unlock a new map.
Game burn out is quite real. I learned that when I took playing realm of the mad god too far and that ended up being the only game I played and ended up forcing myself to play and grind it. Ended up burning myself out if it for many years. I'm glad you stopped guild wars 2 when it started feeling like a chore instead of forcing youself to keep playing and burning out extra hard. Thankfully GW2's greatest strength is that you can pick it back up any time without losing progress. It's always good to play a variety of games. As a side note, starting FF14 looks like it's been great for your streams. You've been pulling triple the viewership on your streams now as you were 6 months ago. Always good to reach multiple audiances.
I think it's a common misconception in today's gaming scene that if a person stops playing a game for more than 2 weeks, it's an indication that they hate said game. I stopped playing GW2 for 4 months and didn't jump back on until I saw the JW release announcement. During my time off, my friends on Discord kept asking when I was going to delete the GW2 channel bc I hadn't played in so long. I refuse to let games turn into jobs. If I don't feel like playing, I won't. Great thing is, GW2 makes it really easy to take breaks.
The beauty in games, is stay on them when this are making good to you, recharge your good energies for back to life, when it makes bad to you, something is wrong. And I'm with you - Secrets of Obscure, comparing with other expansions, was a little disapointing for lovers of the game. I stopped a while too, and only back to play now, knowing Isles of Janthir will come, seems more fun and close from what I like in GW2.
I took a 6 month break last year and didn't think I'd ever come back. Now I'm back on the addiction and the daily "have to" grind. After finishing conflux, warbringer, and vision; I am now grinding out aurora so I feel your burnout. This month there's new games and new content in other games so I'm going to enjoy the break. Especially since anet ruined wvw which is my fav game mode
The legendary grind burned me out. I did vision, aurora, the necklace, 3 pieces of medium armor and twilight over several years, going back and forth. Eventually I was having no more fun with it... :(
You got this. Just started GW2 in earnest and there is so much to explore. Definitely love the casual nature. Sounds like you found your balance of expectations vs. passion. You can do it.
i had problem with game burnout, here is how i fixed it: 1) only grind if it's mandatory, optimally never grind at all. 2) roleplay - make a story for character, and stick to it 3) character of the month - i choose one character that i play in a month 4) death is death - if i die i'm dead, i turn the game off and i don't play later this day. exceptions can be made i.e. when trying out new keybinds, but the fact that i have this approach must be stated before i die, not after. there's room for tweaks here and there, but the point is to have immersive experience, to make things that happen in the game matter.
it's always good to take a break from things so that you can freshen your perspectives. sometimes working on something for too long can make it hard to appreciate. funnily enough, it's a philosophy of Yoshi P himself that it's okay for players to take a break from FFXIV, they won't be punished or fall behind on anything significant. right now my wife, who was the one who introduced me to the game, hasn't played since she finished the latest expansion, because she needed a breather and we started playing GW2 together, which has been fun for us as newbies. now we're getting excited for the new upcoming expansion for FFXIV again! i'm glad that you'll be finding a healthier balance by playing other games inbetween, and hope you continue to enjoy yourself!
I play GW2 for a few weeks at a time, then take a few months off, then repeat. Where I find gw2 lacks for me, is the guilds and finding other people to play with. It seems every guild you want to join directs you to their website to fill out a form or some such(have to play X amount of time, have to be on for runs on X days, etc). I much preferred how the guilds felt/worked in wow.
i have never experienced that b4 is that a new thing? the guild im in i was just asked to join after playing with some of the members said yes and joind
@@Nytrusdeathcyde been playing since launch. and its what ive encounterd most. it also feels to me like people are doing their own things in game, and dont use guild chat as much as i saw in wow.
I haven't thought about your GW2 content for awhile, but I incorrectly assumed that you were an ANet partnered content creator. Happy to see your continued journeys through both GW2 and FF14
You owe no one an apology lol and playing FF14 is something I would recommend everyone. I have my beef with the FF14 combat system but it is undeniable that the post SB patches and Shadowbringers was the best time I've had in any MMO, only thing that rivals it is GW2 POF + Season 4. Burn out happens, I'm looking forwards to you trying other games!
I didn't burn out on the game, but I did on content creation on my main channel. It really became like work. Now that I have all the Leggies I'm ever gonna get (Full armor and back, earrings, amulet, 26 weapons, runes, sigils, relics) It is a lot less stress to play cause I don't have goals anymore other than fun.... Of course now I have to get another Leggie Spear for land...
I just want to say thank you for creating all the content. As a dad who only plays GW2, I really enjoyed it. It made me feel more connected to the community as another dad with limited time to play the game.
I get you. Same here. To be truthful, I didn’t play the final “turtle run” episode of EoD and it was fine. Also didn’t play final episode of SOTO either. But I happily visit Crystal Desert almost daily (my fav) and bounce around other areas, events that appeal that day. I do Dragonstorm daily and the dailies. Often times that’s all I care to do. Yesterday I activated my level 80 boosted char from pre-purchased Janthir Wilds and leveled up a Chrono Sylvari. This will be my Janthir toon. Will be wild!
Been there with various games and MMOs man. Hard to avoid feeling guilty about dailies or missed reputations etc, but ultimately your time is yours and people will watch you for you. Look after yourself!
Im the opposite, i took my hiatus from the burnout and came back refreshed and ready to go. It truly is the one where its there when u need it without a gear treadmill to worry about
I can understand how you feel! I got burnt out with FF14 after power playing nonstop for nearly 10 months everyday for 6 hours a day and I got so consumed in it that I needed a break and swapped to playing guild wars 2, and I came to realize, it is completely ok to just take a step back and do something else, the moment a game becomes unfun and feeling like unsatisfying chore you should absolutely walk away and find something else to do that you enjoy then come back when you feel like the experience can be fun again. In my opinion as well the healthiest thing to do gaming is juggle between the games you play, that way you don’t over commit to one and get burnt out, pick the one that sounds fun and go with that for the day!
I get it, but the game still has always been forgiving and welcoming. since playing the beta, I have always been picking up the game and dropping it, and not once did I fear of missing out on content or leveling. It's one of the great things about GW2 it's okay to step away and pick it up when you want to continue. Compared to other MMO's and gacha games, I have never felt like I had to play the game to continue my progress or a fear of missing out.
Personally, having played through the entirety of Guild Wars 1 and 2 with the wife over the past year... uh, the quality dropped off hard. End of Dragons was just... bad. The map design was clumsy, not fun to navigate, full of visibly copied and pasted scenery, and the writing was so terrible that we were actually astonished. Still, we held out hope where Secrets was concerned, only to discover that after a strong start and a nice concept... the writing turned to absolute narcissistic mush once again, the pacing was packed full of filler, and the map design seemed to be a matter of copying and pasting white pillars so relentlessly, that our framerates bombed. And by bombed I mean - on a rig that can run Cyberpunk at max settings at 60 FPS, it bottomed out at 30 at the tower. On a laptop that had maintained 60 in Heart of Thorns and Path of Fires' beautiful maps... it bottomed out at 13 FPS. And all the while, it looked nowhere near as a good as content from at least 7 years ago. We didn't burn out. But after realising that the quality cliff we'd plunged off with End of Dragons was not an accidental blip, but a trend? We're done. It's that bad. I mean, to be really clear about this - we've experienced ALL of the Guild Wars 2 content up to Secrets... back to back. So we've seen, with no nostalgia goggles, exactly what the quality of the game has been over the years. And it's gone.
My FAVORITE thing about the game is yoi can always come back and not feel like you lost. Phenomenal horizontal progression ❤ Games just been trucking along whe I keft years ago, and when I came back last year it was like "oh hey, welcome back! The stuff you liked doing before is still enjoyed by folks, and here's some new stuff if you wanna try it out. Enjoy! :D" Make my first leggy armor piece last month 😊
I do experience that kind of phase as gamer playing GW2 since 2020. And I can say, there at times, you'd be burn-out and that's normal. I play offline games or gacha ones in my mobile to ease everything and to clear one's self from exhaustion. Now, after months, I am back playing PvP. And yes, SPvP in GW2 can burn you out a lot with frustration that usually results to stress. So, one piece of advise, just balance everything and don't forget to stay away from the game once in a while to avoid unwanted stress or burn-out.
Missed you. You were one of the main content creators who influenced me to try GW2 for the first time last year. I immediately fell in love with the game, and your vids kept me informed and motivated. Then, all of a sudden, you were gone. It was a bummer. But I'm glad you're back to GW2 content creation. I look forward to more GW2 content from you. I've played many MMOs but there's nothing as good and fun as GW2 for me.
Awesome video dude. Yep getting stuck in just one game and having tunnel vision really can mess with things and then you get locked into something and your audience won't allow you to change. What you're doing with adding a little variety to your content it's just going to pay you awesome dividends in the future and I wish you the best of luck
I recently came back as well, casually though. And thats why I love the mmos I have investments in. GW2 and Warframe dont make you fall behind if you aint playing. I can take breaks and focus on a singleplayer game if I want and come back whenever I want.
same Caf Dad, same. making legendary trinkets burns me out and the tipping point is when I tried to enter raids with "high demand" from the older raiders to new raiders (me) suddenly turn off the fun from the game. that and I finally trying Baldur's Gate 3, a leisure single player game without too much competitiveness.
Hallo! I've been following your channel for quite a while now and I love your content, which leads me to: I have some insight. 1. - Don't care that you stopped. GW2 is a game that allows you to be burned out and take your time away to recover. So take your time and, when you go back, it will (we) will recieve you with open arms. 2. - You need to take your time. Either you do, or you will turn this experience into something that is not enjoyable for you. Surely there is a certain quantity of struggle to turn something you love into a carreer, I can say that as a writer and as a psychologist, but if you are doing a slow, but steady, transition, things will come, when their time to come arrives. 3. - I'm glad you found other gaming experiences that made you realize how much more you can do, all the while having way more pleasant experiences as a gamer, as a producer, as a father and so on. 4. - Do not limit your content to a single thing. This will either make you, in the long run, hate whatever you are producing content about, or turn this into a burden (which has happened) even if you like it. Also, limiting your content to a single plataform or game will make your options to grow way way too few, and turn the experience of turning this into a carreer much much harder. So, yes PLEASE, expand your content. We love gw2, and your content about it, but if we are here, it's for your way to do things, not specifically gw2. That's it. Hope you take my insight to the heart
I'm a launch of gw1 player. I log into gw1 weekly to just goof around and hang out with decade friends. But gw2 flatlined for me. I have 15k hours in the game since launch. Pretty much everything I want in game. Items some will probably never own or have in their inventory. One of these days I'm going to just hop on discord and liquidate my acc and give all my infusions and such away and make 2 OG legendaries to give away also. It went from a grind to the end to grinding just to stay "up to date". But 4 manning raids. Doing or soloing fractals. That and all but 1 of my friends quit. It's... Kinda sad tbh. But I'll always have amazing memories.
Attempting to make something that you do "for fun, instead as work" is the fastest way to make it not fun imo. I understand not everyone can have this luxury, but that's why I haven't monetized any of my content. The Community's great but it's just too small to start-in full-time at a job. The good news is that Guild Wars 2 *is and always will be the perfect mmo to jump in & out of.* 7:50 This is a good video tho and one I feel that it's important for more people (especially creators) should watch. Having a "100% Quit or Heads-Down-Consume mentality is insane" but that's the world we live in. I can't talk but maybe give it a less click-baity title. Maybe add (A Healthier Take) at the end. Good video CD. You're looking good too! 😄
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I started playing GW2 a couple months after its release. It would be absurd to expect me to have played it daily for almost 12 years; I've taken several months-long breaks during that time, but I've always returned back to being active in it. I can't say that about any other game.
As being burnt out with gw2 myself, thank you for sharing. Ironically the top next suggested video is "42 reasons why you won't want to stop playing guildwars 2" by you xD
it's good to take a break from gw2, so no need to apologize for it. Hell, I'm taking a break from the game too and currently playing some of my back log games on steam at the moment.
I burned out on destiny 2 around forsaken I tried the final shape and liked it but I couldn't take the grind again like you said it felt like work and pvp made me insane. Gw2 I came back and played after years and having a good time so far
You're not alone. SotO is just another "saga" and it's not a real expansion. Compare to the amount of content and the depth of the story from PoF and EoD, SotO is tiny and shallow. Which doesn't really makes me feel enthused about Janthir Wilds...I just rolled my eyes when I saw that title. There are so many new places we can visit and explore to the east of Elona and south of Cantha, why Janthir? And player housing? Just too little too late. Land spear should have been added in PoF, I mean the mobs are using it. To be honest, I'm done with mountains and forest biomes...we need an open plain or swamp areas.
I was also super excited for SOTO and really wanted to see what the new direction was going to take the game but I ended up being burnt out as well. I mean I'll probably check out the newest expansion at some point but I think I just need a break for a while. Maybe the next expansion will be good but theres a lot of cool games out right now that are just more enjoyable and you don't need to feel bad about playing other stuff! Thanks for the awesome GW2 content :)
The thing about GW2 is that you don't need to grind or farm anything, loot gets thrown at you for whatever you do anyways, yet people go crazy about farm trains or farming specific zones just to squeeze that one or two extra gold out of it while that doesn't work it in the long run. Yesterday while I was just doing my weekly rifts, there were people in squad complaining about how grindy SotO is with all the rift farming for legendary while I've only done my weekly rifts/convergences and have the essences for one and a half set while it's not even my goal. Even sold lots of t2/t3 motivations the first few weeks/months when it was extremely profitable instead of hoarding them. The problem is that a lot of people just expect to get things instantly or get fixated on it instead of just enjoying the game itself but it's also kinda empowered by Anet for years by allowing the kp stuff etc on lfg's. By giving people stuff that can be used as kp and allowing it in the API keys, they gave people a way to "measure" experience in every specific aspect of the game and even new content quickly gets locked behind the kp gate on lfg. That mentality of min maxing everything just spreads through the other aspects of the game, even in places where it simply doesn't make a difference at all how much experience people have. It's better to play 30mins while having fun than doing a routine chore for 20mins.
Feel you totally man... I have it naturally, sommer season work starts halph April and ends in October, and that is my Guild Wars 2 off time. I am keeping the interest and looking for news but werry little to none playing time. Colder times of the year are great for gaming. Cheers🎊🎉🎊 Thanx for the video☀️🐣☀️
the funny thing about the burnout and the breaks from the games is, thats something yoshi-p himself tells the ff14 community as well, he and his team are gamers with all their heart, bloody hell he delayed dawntrail to give the people (and himself) two weeks to play the elden ring addon :D ff14 has literally no fomo as well same as gw2.
I feel you. My reason for leaving is mostly burnout... second is how they've demolished mesmer. Third relic system. Less confusion, seeing all the other profession weapon skills how awesome they seem, then mesmer comes on and it Single shot beacon rifle or flailing rush in spear. Anet hates mesmers
@CaffeinatedDad I loved the playstyle for a long time for mesmer. I got keeping uptime on chaos armor down to a science, but from launch, they did major shifts to them. Eventually, every other profession left mesmers in the dust. If Mirage hadn't been are melee, if they didn't focus soo hard on shatters, and focused on the cool mechanics of cloning... the stats and conditions they can do and other things it'll be a different story My alt. Ranged Scourge condi is a killer at the moment though. I couldn't really get into Elementalist. If I could stay on one element and be viable I'd love it. Lol. Well welcome back, the legendary packets are awesome to be patient for also.
This is absolutely just me being me, but I get the itch for Guild Wars 2 a couple times a year. Every time I forget about updates and, by the time I'm done downloading enough patches, I don't want to play anymore.
SotO is no secret a bad expansion, the rifts and metas are boring, the last map taking up most of our time with the expansion is drab, colorless and grey zone with similar enemies through out. I also haven't played much since February, playing a bit now as I work on making a legendary spear in advance of the new xpack
I had to step away myself for a bit when they reworked dailies. I was focusing too much on rushing those, or getting them done before reset, that I lost focus on having fun.
It's good to take breaks and have your own game time for the relaxation and stress relief they provide. I've just returned to GW2 from a very long break, been watching your videos and they're very helpful, thank you. As a long time MMO player every time I come back to GW2 I realize why it is such a superior game to some others. Also, not a fan of the SOTO expansion, really dislike the monsters and that whole theme, so I'm very much looking forward to Janthir Wilds.
Pretty much. Its not like WoW where you need to play everyday to keep up with gear. IN GW you can take a 4 year break and your gear will still be relevant to the currect content.
To me people nowadays are trying to min-max everything and by doing that they optimize fun out of the game. That is the problem why games aren't fun anymore to a lot of people.
On point.
I see my friends on discord getting into diablo 4 since a week. I was then thinking I should dive in with them. Until I saw they were already putting guides, min maxing videos and just maps of everything to do at high level in the discord chat.
No thanks. I find this way of playing a game so boring and ruining the fun of discovering the world. At least for your first character.
"Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game."
-Soren Johnson, game designer
And to alot is not fun when you don't have what to min-max. When you have just some trivial casual content that don't mater its just not worth or fun doing it.
This one of the big issues , metas included , main reason i play mostly single player games and some mmos with friends.
this is absolutely true. I was kinda burned out as well because I was in this min-max treatmil. luckily for me I did find my wife and she started to play with me and we just didnt care about the min-max-elites but played something for the sole purpose of having fun. It really changed the way I am playing.
Game burn-out is very real
Burn-out of anything is real, as with everything moderation is key. Never forget that variety is the spice of life.
Indeed, a friend of mine was burnt out trying to work on Aurora and Vision at the same time. I prevented my burnouts by only taking 1 goal at a time and make sure to reserve certain afternoons for other activities.
@@michaelstein7715yup even if u enjoy anything just don’t overdo it cuz burn out suckssss😂
yes it does
I had the same experience with FFXIV i just stopped paying for it and might come back with the new expansion
I'm burned out. Good thing is everything will be there with I decide to play again.
So true man.
this is why i love guild wars 2, i can take long breaks and still be decent just have to practice the mechanics and rotation/combo of the spec i use
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Very true
I've been playing GW2 on and off since release. It's probably one of my favorite - if not my favorite - video games. And I like that you have no pressure to keep up with anything, you can just take a break and get right back into it. Like you said, it's a game that doesn't make you choose one over the other. GW2 is like a friend you don't always see regularly, but when you do, it's a cozy and familiar feeling.
As a fellow gamer-dad, I appreciate your honest takes on games - glad to see you being open with your audience about the dips you go through. Keep making content you're excited about.
The shty part is he can't... at least, not the way he likely wants to. YT punishes you on the algo if you stray too much from what little box they put you in. I speak from personal experience.
I feel you. I’ve been on a gaming hiatus for months. Been following your XIV journey and enjoying the content.
Stoic I appreciate it! You've been here with me on this journey for a very long time. I really appreciate the support
Perfectly understandable, mate. I had a 'break' last year because I burnt myself out by just spending two or three hours a night 'farming'. Spot on about Soto too - it's awfully low on replayable fun.
I know of an agency vtuber who plays ffxiv on their "off-time" but doesn't stream it. Because they don't want it to become their job. Something to that I think.
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I came back to GW2 when SotO came out. Your videos were tremendous help. And your reasoning totally makes sense. Cheers!
Thank you for taking a step back and working on your mental health. Also I personally appreciate you for talking about your journey!
Glad to know you still love GW2. I started to play it (even though I registered in 2012) last year because of your content. As a gamer dad myself and have only played WoW, I can understand your situation. It is the grind that burns us out, so I plan my play time based on what I feel like doing, except for the jumping puzzles that make me wanna rage quit.
I've tried GW2 twice before, but when you don't have any friends in it and don't know what you are doing it's so confusing and I didn't know what I was doing. I couldn't find the story and I just ended up giving up again.
Ify. I've tried GW2 many times before but ended up not playing it.
Same deal here. I gave GW2 a try something like 5 times by now and I always quit before level 80. And I don't understand why because everytime I play, I have a BLAST... for about a week. But I think trying to figure out what to do other than 100% maps in the world and playing (usually) by myself tends to get old quickly? I dunno. I always think of going back, all the time, and I have a great time for a little while... Maybe I should do it again.
The story is actually one of the few things the game guides you to pretty reliably. But then again, I actually really like that gw2 lets you figure stuff out by yourself. So maybe I am a bit biased. 🤷
I play solo btw and make heavy use of /wiki.
That’s how I feel. Just started a few weeks ago and haven’t logged on in over a week.
@@melinnamba Same here.
I've never once been able to come back to GW2 and just "pick up where I left off" on my character. Always had to relearn the class due to the way the builds and weapons work, it just doesnt *ever stick*. My main pain point over the years of comingg and going from GW2
Plus most guilds are not going to keep you in the roster if you are gone for months
@@330DKNY The only change you would need to do is buy a new relic in the trading post and maybe change your amulet to make your class viable again. That's nothing compared to all other mmos where you would need to grind the entire gear sets and weapons and enchants every 6 months.
@@jediwarlock1 I remember when I got back to Black Desert. New "end game" gear dropped and all the farming plots I put down were thrown back into storage and I have to put them back up again. My muscle memory didn't fail me but the game really hated how I left it for months. 😂
@@330DKNY what MMO games that has guild who loves to keep people for months offline? name one for me kid
@@jukkininth4837mine from ffxiv is 12month
I also stopped. I played Secrets of the Obscure, but I really just do not like the whole Daily/weekly system. I much prefered when they were just simply gold, AP, and some basic resources, but I hate when it's a currency that is only obtained by the dailies/weeklies. Not only that but it's arbitrary goals, most I really do not want to do. Jumping puzzles, take a castle keep, eh....
It took a massive hit in my books on enjoyability.
I fully agree with you. While the new Daily/Weekly system is pretty neat in terms of astral acclaim & freedom to spend, I miss the old dailies. I really do not like some of the WvW and PvP dailies/weeklies. So much that I entirely put on PvE dailies/weeklies. This is the part that sucks because I would go into WvW and PvP more frequently and knock out the slightly easier ones. I was trying to understand why my burnout was accelerated and it finally came to me that I am not super happy with some things about SOTO/new daily system. I’ve been taking a break in 2024 so far. I’m sure I’ll go back because I love GW2, but I definitely just need a long break after playing almost every night for a while naturally… and admittedly accidentally min-maxing stuff.
@@Shortay1325 exactly. I much rather have freedom in how I play. Some dailies and weeklies are open ended. Like simply identifying gear. What I really hate is just overall feeling of fomo. But that's why I preferred when rewards were more generic, and not feeling like I'm missing points I could be getting.
I've been trying out GW2 as an FF14 player. It's been fun and low pressure. Really 2 great games that complement each other quite well.
You were my go to when I finally decided to play. I only played for a few months and got bored
And this is one of the major reasons why I love Guild Wars 2. I too hit a burnout phase but it didn't feel like I was missing out. I put it down, played other games, got older, came back and it felt like I never left.
I hope this never changes.
Props to you for widening your perspective in the genre.
I saw all of your videos when i started playing, you are the reason I learned half of my knowledge in GW2. Thank you for that. Rn Im also burned out, but ill be back again someday
Hey I'm happy to help! There was quite a bit of things that I had done in gw2 but it felt like I needed to step away
I have 3 main games I play and rotate them as I burn out. Helps from stopping for 6 months 😂. Nice to hear from you Caf Dad
Which are those?
Started on pre launch, stepped away in 2017.
Perfect Victory, Norn Berzerker, spawned in Verdant Brink (no recollection of why I was there) today. We will ol see how that goes ❤️⚔️
Let's gooo!
for over 6000k game hours, i have had many break from the game, sometiems weeks, sometimes months, but that is the best thing on this game, its just there w8 for me and i dont have lost anything than maybe some festivals. many times breaks comes after long grinds, like legendary or skyscale. that is the spice of this game, if you want you could just play 24/7 grinding, or you can play very casually 15 minutes a day for dailys and everything you do always stack from some long term gols you can make
I'm glad you're finding that balance. I've never understood how content creators could stay happy playing one game. I'm happiest on a pretty frequent rotation between GW2, WoW, and FF14, with single player games thrown in too. Each MMO does something differently really well, and each has its weakness. I realized when I was getting burned out on FF14 the answer wasn't to be mad at the game, but to go play games that did that missing thing really well.
FF14 is great, but playing it definitely made me appreciate what GW2 has that other games do not. A robust open world topping the list.
FF14 also left a bad taste in my mouth in that They dropped an Xpac, took my money and when the xpac somehow glitched my account so I couldn't log in at all for two weeks, and after several patches... the support team basically said ..."shrug, too bad for you." Squaresoft. Basically scammers from India caliber customer support.
We can all use a break, short or long. I too have not been thrilled with SOTO and all that foggy/pink/copypaste zones and architecture. The new expansion brings us back to Tyria and beautiful nature zones. Have always enjoyed your GW2 content/guides and I hope to see you again for the new expansion. But in all cases, be sure to have fun! ;)
I think thats the biggest Problem with Games these days. Sticking to ONE Game doesnt work anymore, thats why i play for example GW2, Valheim and The Division 2.
Burnout happens fast. If you focus too much on the Goal. I see so many nubs rush their Skyscales, story, Qs, and then they are just spending their remaining time showing it all off in lowlevel zones... No wonder these people quit Lol! Guys... take it slowly... have alts... Enjoy the journey... play with friends.
100% this.
My friends go into speedrunning mode whenever they start a game or new content comes out. Then they spend most of their time chatting and showing off their amazing gear and mounts in the starter zones or in the pvp lobby. Meanwhile there's me taking months to conclude anything, while having the most fun of my day messing with the npcs and stuff like that, just taking my sweet time, while working on my goals. lol
Any game looses its fun really fast once people simply wanna go competitive.
After i finished and maxed my masteries i havent come back to any SOTO map.
GW2 and FFXIV compliment each other very well if you're planning on playing the 2 games. I love MMOs, and I juggle between a few of them to avoid getting burnt out. I play FFXIV, GW2, ESO, BDO, WoW (currently), LotRO, Destiny 2 and Division 2. I jump between those games every 2-4 months but I don't really do high end raiding (except FFXIV), in GW2 I stopped raiding after I got my legendary armors back in 2019 and only do raids in other games once for the experience. I'm just waiting for Dawntrail then I'm hopping back to 14 .
It has happend to me before, but I will never leave Guild Wars 2. This game has given me too much love from all sides. I will get burned out and will switch from time to time, but I will play this game until my blood runs dry.
I stopped playing GW2 back during HoT update due to issues in my personal life. Just getting back into it now. Have found it helpful to go between personal story and clearing maps. The memories this is bringing back are all good ones! But I do understand burnout. I try to rotate through games and go from GW2 to metroidvanias, to standard RPGs. It helps me enjoy gaming as a whole.
I just came back after a 6 year hiatus. The most recent login from my guildies is 3 years and change. Life happened to all of us.
I stopped playing GW2 shortly after the most recent expansion dropped. I didn't care for it, so I stopped. Been playing other things and back to WoW. New expansion looks like it's going to be a blast.
After 7k hours in gw2 I did quit and I will not come back. There are multiple reasons but the main one is how the game became old with mechanics and content. Of course a lot has been added but content has not changed at all. Pve used to be nice years ago, now it is just a memory of something that was good. Also what I started to hate about GW2 is how many actions are happening on the screen. Red circles here, yellow circle there, green circle again here and so on… it is just too much happening and it leads to exhaustion. I don’t want to compare gw2 to other games cuz all of them from the market have own issues but gw2 in particular have issues with no refreshed content which just became old due to no meaningful updates after years. But anyway… if there are ppl who never tried gw2 I highly recommend it as it is very casual friendly game, just keep in mind that after a while there is basically nothing meaningful to do.
Been playing solo level arise on my phone. Just got my comp working and saw a vid…lol. Always good to change things up. Variety is the spice of life.
Some of us are heavy on being casuals. Once I join a guild and they start scheduling shit I’m like yea hard pass this feels like a job I play to have fun
I had the same issue with perspective back in the day when I ONLY played runescape. Didn't know just how far games have come over the years. Now I've tried final fantasy and gw2 and loving them both
It is a really nice how you can stop playing Guild Wars 2 for a while and return anytime without needing to catch-up on a constant gear grind.
Very healthy way to experience games. I wish more creators were able to sucessfully do a variety of games!
I appreciate it, pothi! I needed to have a step away, and luckily, FFXIV has been just what I needed!
I spent like 10 solid years playing league of legends, daily, tryhard, i had a passon for it, knew the game so much that friends stopped inviting me to 5v5 rankeds cuz they had nothing to do if im locked in, and it felt amazing, yet patch by patch they slowly killed a game to the point of missery, solo carrying isnt a thing, tanks deal damage while dps classes cry doing nothing and i started a search for something new, and oh my have i found the game for me, gw2 was literaly insane exprience, so many classes, abilities, builds, things to see and do.. Now the game of league feels like living inside of a small box, having only 4 abilities, few if any builds..freedom to do whatever i want is wild. A peacefull life without playing pvp games
Burn out happens. It's why I have a little set of MMOs that I cycle through. The great thing is that once you're burnt out on one there's probably new content for another.
Im currently playing both games trying to get ready for Dawntrail. It's interesting to see the differences between the things I like and dislike about both games
I haven't logged into GW2 in probably 6 months because of burnout. I did the exact same as you, grinded out vision for a month or two and then immediately started aurora. I never stopped to smell the roses and ended up quitting (again). Looking forward to casually enjoying the new expansion and milling around with some of the achievements for other things in my spare time.
I took a 3 year long break starting from the beginning of LWS1. I don't regret it. The game felt new and exciting again when I came back, and in part, it was. A break is hardly ever a bad idea, especially in a game with horizontal progression.
I just started a free account a few weeks ago, and I hit lvl 80 a couple nights ago. Your videos have taught me quite a lot about how to approach the game as an old GW1 player. The nostalgia hits are strong, but so far I've been enjoying checking out the maps, the fact that random quests spawn while I'm hanging around is very cool. This game actually works the way my gaming brain works... Playing Hogwarts legacy has also been a blast, but my time exploring in that game doesn't necessarily advance anything. In GW2 it actually does, and that's incredible. I will say I took a long break from exploration style to do hologram stampedes. I had no idea what I was doing at first (and didn't really do any other part of dragon bash), but kind of figured out how that mode works and had fun running after the crowd that was flying and roller beetling their way to the next point.
That was a very long post for a youtube video, but I just wanted to share a little bit of my new player experience because you've helped me enjoy the game. Whatever you're doing today I hope you're having fun doing it!
I loved the heck out of GW2 and I still think it was the best value for money you can get in the MMO space, but... I feel like I'm just completely done with the game now. I haven't played it in years, and now if I decide to play Janthir Wilds I'll have to play through 3 expansions (Icebrood Saga + End of Dragons + Secret of the Obscure) to catch up, so that's a bit daunting.
I'm BRAND NEW to Guild Wars 2, it is the first Tab-Target mmo i've played since City of Heroes. I have played lots of action combat MMO's like TERA, BDO, ESO, Neverwinter. And from my personal experience, I am enjoying GW2 from a very casual perspective. It's been a super chill game to step away from all the action-combat MMO's that I'm used to. Currently Elden Ring and GW2 has been my rotation and it's hittin all the bases for me at the moment.
I stopped back in Feb. Just couldn't focus in game on anything. Just started playing again first of June and I'm focused again now. Breaks are good. The longer the better. I do the same with every game I play. I rotate in a way. I'm not back full time in GW2 just yet. I want to be fresh still for the new expansion. Best thing about this game is it's not WoW. I can take a break for as long as I want and not lose ground other than having to unlock a new map.
Game burn out is quite real. I learned that when I took playing realm of the mad god too far and that ended up being the only game I played and ended up forcing myself to play and grind it. Ended up burning myself out if it for many years. I'm glad you stopped guild wars 2 when it started feeling like a chore instead of forcing youself to keep playing and burning out extra hard. Thankfully GW2's greatest strength is that you can pick it back up any time without losing progress. It's always good to play a variety of games. As a side note, starting FF14 looks like it's been great for your streams. You've been pulling triple the viewership on your streams now as you were 6 months ago. Always good to reach multiple audiances.
I'm glad it has worked out for my streams as well as my sanity. The game is great and especially the free trial it's fantastic!
I think it's a common misconception in today's gaming scene that if a person stops playing a game for more than 2 weeks, it's an indication that they hate said game. I stopped playing GW2 for 4 months and didn't jump back on until I saw the JW release announcement. During my time off, my friends on Discord kept asking when I was going to delete the GW2 channel bc I hadn't played in so long. I refuse to let games turn into jobs. If I don't feel like playing, I won't. Great thing is, GW2 makes it really easy to take breaks.
I had a period when I didn`t play GW2 for 3 years. Yet it is my favorite game.
@@procerator same here, 6 years now
The beauty in games, is stay on them when this are making good to you, recharge your good energies for back to life, when it makes bad to you, something is wrong. And I'm with you - Secrets of Obscure, comparing with other expansions, was a little disapointing for lovers of the game. I stopped a while too, and only back to play now, knowing Isles of Janthir will come, seems more fun and close from what I like in GW2.
I took a 6 month break last year and didn't think I'd ever come back. Now I'm back on the addiction and the daily "have to" grind. After finishing conflux, warbringer, and vision; I am now grinding out aurora so I feel your burnout. This month there's new games and new content in other games so I'm going to enjoy the break. Especially since anet ruined wvw which is my fav game mode
The legendary grind burned me out. I did vision, aurora, the necklace, 3 pieces of medium armor and twilight over several years, going back and forth. Eventually I was having no more fun with it... :(
You got this. Just started GW2 in earnest and there is so much to explore. Definitely love the casual nature. Sounds like you found your balance of expectations vs. passion. You can do it.
You're not alone. A ton of people took a break after SOTO.
i had problem with game burnout, here is how i fixed it:
1) only grind if it's mandatory, optimally never grind at all.
2) roleplay - make a story for character, and stick to it
3) character of the month - i choose one character that i play in a month
4) death is death - if i die i'm dead, i turn the game off and i don't play later this day. exceptions can be made i.e. when trying out new keybinds, but the fact that i have this approach must be stated before i die, not after.
there's room for tweaks here and there, but the point is to have immersive experience, to make things that happen in the game matter.
it's always good to take a break from things so that you can freshen your perspectives. sometimes working on something for too long can make it hard to appreciate. funnily enough, it's a philosophy of Yoshi P himself that it's okay for players to take a break from FFXIV, they won't be punished or fall behind on anything significant. right now my wife, who was the one who introduced me to the game, hasn't played since she finished the latest expansion, because she needed a breather and we started playing GW2 together, which has been fun for us as newbies. now we're getting excited for the new upcoming expansion for FFXIV again! i'm glad that you'll be finding a healthier balance by playing other games inbetween, and hope you continue to enjoy yourself!
I play GW2 for a few weeks at a time, then take a few months off, then repeat. Where I find gw2 lacks for me, is the guilds and finding other people to play with. It seems every guild you want to join directs you to their website to fill out a form or some such(have to play X amount of time, have to be on for runs on X days, etc). I much preferred how the guilds felt/worked in wow.
i have never experienced that b4 is that a new thing? the guild im in i was just asked to join after playing with some of the members said yes and joind
@@Nytrusdeathcyde been playing since launch. and its what ive encounterd most. it also feels to me like people are doing their own things in game, and dont use guild chat as much as i saw in wow.
I haven't thought about your GW2 content for awhile, but I incorrectly assumed that you were an ANet partnered content creator.
Happy to see your continued journeys through both GW2 and FF14
You owe no one an apology lol and playing FF14 is something I would recommend everyone. I have my beef with the FF14 combat system but it is undeniable that the post SB patches and Shadowbringers was the best time I've had in any MMO, only thing that rivals it is GW2 POF + Season 4.
Burn out happens, I'm looking forwards to you trying other games!
Burn out is such a serious threat to joy. I'm glad you've realized what happened and are taking steps to care for yourself.
I didn't burn out on the game, but I did on content creation on my main channel. It really became like work.
Now that I have all the Leggies I'm ever gonna get (Full armor and back, earrings, amulet, 26 weapons, runes, sigils, relics) It is a lot less stress to play cause I don't have goals anymore other than fun.... Of course now I have to get another Leggie Spear for land...
I just want to say thank you for creating all the content. As a dad who only plays GW2, I really enjoyed it. It made me feel more connected to the community as another dad with limited time to play the game.
I get you. Same here. To be truthful, I didn’t play the final “turtle run” episode of EoD and it was fine. Also didn’t play final episode of SOTO either. But I happily visit Crystal Desert almost daily (my fav) and bounce around other areas, events that appeal that day. I do Dragonstorm daily and the dailies. Often times that’s all I care to do. Yesterday I activated my level 80 boosted char from pre-purchased Janthir Wilds and leveled up a Chrono Sylvari. This will be my Janthir toon. Will be wild!
Damn bruh, you were one of the main channels for GW2 guides for me. But I understand your decisions.
Been there with various games and MMOs man. Hard to avoid feeling guilty about dailies or missed reputations etc, but ultimately your time is yours and people will watch you for you. Look after yourself!
Im the opposite, i took my hiatus from the burnout and came back refreshed and ready to go. It truly is the one where its there when u need it without a gear treadmill to worry about
And.. thats the beauty of GW2, take as long as a break you need. Come back fresh and enjoy jt again when the time comes.
I took 1 month break and came back everything feels fresh again.
You're a good man, stay true to your direction!
Thank you, I always appreciate your support buddy
I can understand how you feel! I got burnt out with FF14 after power playing nonstop for nearly 10 months everyday for 6 hours a day and I got so consumed in it that I needed a break and swapped to playing guild wars 2, and I came to realize, it is completely ok to just take a step back and do something else, the moment a game becomes unfun and feeling like unsatisfying chore you should absolutely walk away and find something else to do that you enjoy then come back when you feel like the experience can be fun again. In my opinion as well the healthiest thing to do gaming is juggle between the games you play, that way you don’t over commit to one and get burnt out, pick the one that sounds fun and go with that for the day!
I get it, but the game still has always been forgiving and welcoming. since playing the beta, I have always been picking up the game and dropping it, and not once did I fear of missing out on content or leveling. It's one of the great things about GW2 it's okay to step away and pick it up when you want to continue. Compared to other MMO's and gacha games, I have never felt like I had to play the game to continue my progress or a fear of missing out.
Personally, having played through the entirety of Guild Wars 1 and 2 with the wife over the past year... uh, the quality dropped off hard. End of Dragons was just... bad. The map design was clumsy, not fun to navigate, full of visibly copied and pasted scenery, and the writing was so terrible that we were actually astonished. Still, we held out hope where Secrets was concerned, only to discover that after a strong start and a nice concept... the writing turned to absolute narcissistic mush once again, the pacing was packed full of filler, and the map design seemed to be a matter of copying and pasting white pillars so relentlessly, that our framerates bombed.
And by bombed I mean - on a rig that can run Cyberpunk at max settings at 60 FPS, it bottomed out at 30 at the tower. On a laptop that had maintained 60 in Heart of Thorns and Path of Fires' beautiful maps... it bottomed out at 13 FPS. And all the while, it looked nowhere near as a good as content from at least 7 years ago.
We didn't burn out. But after realising that the quality cliff we'd plunged off with End of Dragons was not an accidental blip, but a trend?
We're done. It's that bad.
I mean, to be really clear about this - we've experienced ALL of the Guild Wars 2 content up to Secrets... back to back. So we've seen, with no nostalgia goggles, exactly what the quality of the game has been over the years. And it's gone.
My FAVORITE thing about the game is yoi can always come back and not feel like you lost. Phenomenal horizontal progression ❤
Games just been trucking along whe I keft years ago, and when I came back last year it was like "oh hey, welcome back! The stuff you liked doing before is still enjoyed by folks, and here's some new stuff if you wanna try it out. Enjoy! :D"
Make my first leggy armor piece last month 😊
I do experience that kind of phase as gamer playing GW2 since 2020. And I can say, there at times, you'd be burn-out and that's normal. I play offline games or gacha ones in my mobile to ease everything and to clear one's self from exhaustion. Now, after months, I am back playing PvP. And yes, SPvP in GW2 can burn you out a lot with frustration that usually results to stress. So, one piece of advise, just balance everything and don't forget to stay away from the game once in a while to avoid unwanted stress or burn-out.
Missed you. You were one of the main content creators who influenced me to try GW2 for the first time last year. I immediately fell in love with the game, and your vids kept me informed and motivated. Then, all of a sudden, you were gone. It was a bummer. But I'm glad you're back to GW2 content creation. I look forward to more GW2 content from you. I've played many MMOs but there's nothing as good and fun as GW2 for me.
Awesome video dude. Yep getting stuck in just one game and having tunnel vision really can mess with things and then you get locked into something and your audience won't allow you to change. What you're doing with adding a little variety to your content it's just going to pay you awesome dividends in the future and I wish you the best of luck
I recently came back as well, casually though. And thats why I love the mmos I have investments in. GW2 and Warframe dont make you fall behind if you aint playing. I can take breaks and focus on a singleplayer game if I want and come back whenever I want.
same Caf Dad, same.
making legendary trinkets burns me out and the tipping point is when I tried to enter raids with "high demand" from the older raiders to new raiders (me) suddenly turn off the fun from the game. that and I finally trying Baldur's Gate 3, a leisure single player game without too much competitiveness.
Hallo! I've been following your channel for quite a while now and I love your content, which leads me to: I have some insight.
1. - Don't care that you stopped. GW2 is a game that allows you to be burned out and take your time away to recover. So take your time and, when you go back, it will (we) will recieve you with open arms.
2. - You need to take your time. Either you do, or you will turn this experience into something that is not enjoyable for you. Surely there is a certain quantity of struggle to turn something you love into a carreer, I can say that as a writer and as a psychologist, but if you are doing a slow, but steady, transition, things will come, when their time to come arrives.
3. - I'm glad you found other gaming experiences that made you realize how much more you can do, all the while having way more pleasant experiences as a gamer, as a producer, as a father and so on.
4. - Do not limit your content to a single thing. This will either make you, in the long run, hate whatever you are producing content about, or turn this into a burden (which has happened) even if you like it. Also, limiting your content to a single plataform or game will make your options to grow way way too few, and turn the experience of turning this into a carreer much much harder. So, yes PLEASE, expand your content. We love gw2, and your content about it, but if we are here, it's for your way to do things, not specifically gw2.
That's it. Hope you take my insight to the heart
I'm a launch of gw1 player. I log into gw1 weekly to just goof around and hang out with decade friends. But gw2 flatlined for me. I have 15k hours in the game since launch. Pretty much everything I want in game. Items some will probably never own or have in their inventory. One of these days I'm going to just hop on discord and liquidate my acc and give all my infusions and such away and make 2 OG legendaries to give away also. It went from a grind to the end to grinding just to stay "up to date". But 4 manning raids. Doing or soloing fractals. That and all but 1 of my friends quit. It's... Kinda sad tbh. But I'll always have amazing memories.
Attempting to make something that you do "for fun, instead as work" is the fastest way to make it not fun imo. I understand not everyone can have this luxury, but that's why I haven't monetized any of my content. The Community's great but it's just too small to start-in full-time at a job.
The good news is that Guild Wars 2 *is and always will be the perfect mmo to jump in & out of.* 7:50 This is a good video tho and one I feel that it's important for more people (especially creators) should watch. Having a "100% Quit or Heads-Down-Consume mentality is insane" but that's the world we live in. I can't talk but maybe give it a less click-baity title. Maybe add (A Healthier Take) at the end. Good video CD. You're looking good too! 😄
I started playing GW2 a couple months after its release. It would be absurd to expect me to have played it daily for almost 12 years; I've taken several months-long breaks during that time, but I've always returned back to being active in it. I can't say that about any other game.
As being burnt out with gw2 myself, thank you for sharing.
Ironically the top next suggested video is "42 reasons why you won't want to stop playing guildwars 2" by you xD
it's good to take a break from gw2, so no need to apologize for it. Hell, I'm taking a break from the game too and currently playing some of my back log games on steam at the moment.
I burned out on destiny 2 around forsaken I tried the final shape and liked it but I couldn't take the grind again like you said it felt like work and pvp made me insane. Gw2 I came back and played after years and having a good time so far
You're not alone. SotO is just another "saga" and it's not a real expansion. Compare to the amount of content and the depth of the story from PoF and EoD, SotO is tiny and shallow. Which doesn't really makes me feel enthused about Janthir Wilds...I just rolled my eyes when I saw that title. There are so many new places we can visit and explore to the east of Elona and south of Cantha, why Janthir? And player housing? Just too little too late. Land spear should have been added in PoF, I mean the mobs are using it. To be honest, I'm done with mountains and forest biomes...we need an open plain or swamp areas.
I was also super excited for SOTO and really wanted to see what the new direction was going to take the game but I ended up being burnt out as well. I mean I'll probably check out the newest expansion at some point but I think I just need a break for a while. Maybe the next expansion will be good but theres a lot of cool games out right now that are just more enjoyable and you don't need to feel bad about playing other stuff!
Thanks for the awesome GW2 content :)
The thing about GW2 is that you don't need to grind or farm anything, loot gets thrown at you for whatever you do anyways, yet people go crazy about farm trains or farming specific zones just to squeeze that one or two extra gold out of it while that doesn't work it in the long run. Yesterday while I was just doing my weekly rifts, there were people in squad complaining about how grindy SotO is with all the rift farming for legendary while I've only done my weekly rifts/convergences and have the essences for one and a half set while it's not even my goal. Even sold lots of t2/t3 motivations the first few weeks/months when it was extremely profitable instead of hoarding them.
The problem is that a lot of people just expect to get things instantly or get fixated on it instead of just enjoying the game itself but it's also kinda empowered by Anet for years by allowing the kp stuff etc on lfg's. By giving people stuff that can be used as kp and allowing it in the API keys, they gave people a way to "measure" experience in every specific aspect of the game and even new content quickly gets locked behind the kp gate on lfg. That mentality of min maxing everything just spreads through the other aspects of the game, even in places where it simply doesn't make a difference at all how much experience people have. It's better to play 30mins while having fun than doing a routine chore for 20mins.
Feel you totally man...
I have it naturally, sommer season work starts halph April and ends in October, and that is my Guild Wars 2 off time. I am keeping the interest and looking for news but werry little to none playing time.
Colder times of the year are great for gaming. Cheers🎊🎉🎊
Thanx for the video☀️🐣☀️
Literally staryed the game today... Thanks for the guides
I get burned out and leave for 3 months. Eventually I come back and I don’t have to worry about missing out
the funny thing about the burnout and the breaks from the games is, thats something yoshi-p himself tells the ff14 community as well, he and his team are gamers with all their heart, bloody hell he delayed dawntrail to give the people (and himself) two weeks to play the elden ring addon :D ff14 has literally no fomo as well same as gw2.
I feel you.
My reason for leaving is mostly burnout... second is how they've demolished mesmer. Third relic system.
Less confusion, seeing all the other profession weapon skills how awesome they seem, then mesmer comes on and it Single shot beacon rifle or flailing rush in spear.
Anet hates mesmers
I've thought many times of focusing solely on my mesmer but I really felt like it wasn't as cool as my ele. Imo very limited in viable weapons tbh
@CaffeinatedDad I loved the playstyle for a long time for mesmer. I got keeping uptime on chaos armor down to a science, but from launch, they did major shifts to them. Eventually, every other profession left mesmers in the dust.
If Mirage hadn't been are melee, if they didn't focus soo hard on shatters, and focused on the cool mechanics of cloning... the stats and conditions they can do and other things it'll be a different story
My alt. Ranged Scourge condi is a killer at the moment though. I couldn't really get into Elementalist. If I could stay on one element and be viable I'd love it. Lol.
Well welcome back, the legendary packets are awesome to be patient for also.
This is absolutely just me being me, but I get the itch for Guild Wars 2 a couple times a year. Every time I forget about updates and, by the time I'm done downloading enough patches, I don't want to play anymore.
SotO is no secret a bad expansion, the rifts and metas are boring, the last map taking up most of our time with the expansion is drab, colorless and grey zone with similar enemies through out. I also haven't played much since February, playing a bit now as I work on making a legendary spear in advance of the new xpack
I do enjoy some of the mastery lines though. Using updraft on a skyscale is great in other maps
Yup on a hiatus myself now for about 7 months. Turned it on saturday, dont feel the need to again anytime soon lol.
I had to step away myself for a bit when they reworked dailies. I was focusing too much on rushing those, or getting them done before reset, that I lost focus on having fun.
You are not alone. This game exhausting
Whew!
It's good to take breaks and have your own game time for the relaxation and stress relief they provide. I've just returned to GW2 from a very long break, been watching your videos and they're very helpful, thank you. As a long time MMO player every time I come back to GW2 I realize why it is such a superior game to some others. Also, not a fan of the SOTO expansion, really dislike the monsters and that whole theme, so I'm very much looking forward to Janthir Wilds.
Play it when you want to. Stop if you don't.
Pretty much. Its not like WoW where you need to play everyday to keep up with gear. IN GW you can take a 4 year break and your gear will still be relevant to the currect content.
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