Great input , you have a great point , ill be sure to mention you in the next video .Basically the torch body is freezing cold especially at the spud venturi so yes an intercooler effect is taking place meaning the air is colder more dense and because of that we get more oxygen to the flame ... Brilliant observation Jan ,Absolutely brilliant ,i feel like a fool for allowing that concept to escape me at the moment i discovered how cold it was . I think im gonna do a video on this comment thanks again friend .
@@NOBOX7 can i run a mini propane or acetylene torch with a air compressor to replace oxygen ? Can't get oxygen with everything close due to virus. I'm new at this
Car engines still have to warm up. Colder air does mean more oxygen, but in a car the air being used is still hundreds of degrees because engines are hot as a mother. On a torch in open air the air is room temperature. And the engine will never fully warm up. More energy is wasted heating the system ie) torch itself and all the surrounding air in the room, than would be gained by an extra 0.2% of oxygen. The challenge is keeping the heat in the system. On a car the system is small and contained, there's plenty of heat in the system. The challenge is getting the heat out of the system. Plus on a torch if you want more oxygen you just increase PSI, do that on a car and you blow up the engine.
I really enjoy watching your development process, where you have an idea and just immediately build it to see how it works. By far the best way to learn in my opinion. I design rocket engines at work, and it's cool to watch your development process and the parallels it has with the things I do at work. Keep up the awesome progress.
This is really cool, maybe your best so far! And yeah, I agree steel wool would definitely homogeneize the flow and improve mixing. Maybe if you added an extra metallic tube around your combustor, it would reflect back the infrared radiation from the red hot metal, and slightly improve the torch's efficiency? (probably not by much though)
While burning gasses expand, this itself causes turbulence in the burning gas. As a result you can't really make a laminar flow of burning gas. What might work is to combust the gas in a chamber and channel the hot exhaust through a laminar flow nozzle.
@@NOBOX7 idk. . But that's what I was thinking. It must be something simple like that. I know there's not much difference between a prestolite and a turbo torch but the turbo torch burns hotter.. Or maybe it just heats faster. I just know that's the end result, (faster). Hey, thanks again for sharing this video. I learned a lot and it's stuff I would have never considered to try.
The flame sure looks cool as hell. Maybe it's be good in an application where you need large areas of lower heat like letting classwork cool down / preheat. Btw if you continue it and pack it with steel wool I'd try and find stainless stuff. I packed my lawnmower muffler with steel wool and it lit on fire like a burning catalytic converter and shot out in a spray of sparks... The stainless stuff has lasted much longer, it has still degraded over a few months of use, but not nearly as bad. Just mentioning it because I ran into it, but it doesn't look like this burner really wants to burn internally like with the other nozzle. Another cool build 😎
i say leave the laminar tubes and change the fuel and air intake to the rear of the chamber and slap that 2.5inch combuster on the front and let it rip
Right on, I guesses as much, but hard to tell for sure from a video screen. I'm guessing you're not entirely happy with the flow on this? I thought also that the cones would be more from the center than along the perimeter. Interesting design though. @@NOBOX7
@@NOBOX7 I think it’s because you didn’t add any mesh screen inside the metal tube cavity to give a better fuel + air mixture. Your other video update shows a perfect blue flame since you added the mesh screen.
Just wondering does the temperature of the compressed air have anything to do with flame temp. I mean some engines have intercoolers for reason.
Great input , you have a great point , ill be sure to mention you in the next video .Basically the torch body is freezing cold especially at the spud venturi so yes an intercooler effect is taking place meaning the air is colder more dense and because of that we get more oxygen to the flame ... Brilliant observation Jan ,Absolutely brilliant ,i feel like a fool for allowing that concept to escape me at the moment i discovered how cold it was . I think im gonna do a video on this comment thanks again friend .
@@NOBOX7 can i run a mini propane or acetylene torch with a air compressor to replace oxygen ? Can't get oxygen with everything close due to virus. I'm new at this
@@nloredoable it won't be as efficient as pure oxygen but close
Car engines still have to warm up. Colder air does mean more oxygen, but in a car the air being used is still hundreds of degrees because engines are hot as a mother. On a torch in open air the air is room temperature. And the engine will never fully warm up. More energy is wasted heating the system ie) torch itself and all the surrounding air in the room, than would be gained by an extra 0.2% of oxygen. The challenge is keeping the heat in the system. On a car the system is small and contained, there's plenty of heat in the system. The challenge is getting the heat out of the system. Plus on a torch if you want more oxygen you just increase PSI, do that on a car and you blow up the engine.
Man honestly I love everything you do STOP SHOWING OFF . No but seriously I love it all you sir are a damn CHAMPION
Your mind runs flat out, so many ideas so little time! Love this
LOL thanks man ill take it ...
I love watching genius mad scientist making tools that get them what they need, compliments to the chef, aloha
Thanks homeboy
I really enjoy watching your development process, where you have an idea and just immediately build it to see how it works. By far the best way to learn in my opinion. I design rocket engines at work, and it's cool to watch your development process and the parallels it has with the things I do at work. Keep up the awesome progress.
Thanks Tyler , glad to have you here brother
Really like your channel! Keep up the sweet projects
Thanks man , no sign of things slowing down over here, glad to have you ...
Think your into a winner here something you can take to market
Longer inner tubes. Theres a reason a calisle and a red max run different yet use the same size capiliary tube.
This is really cool, maybe your best so far!
And yeah, I agree steel wool would definitely homogeneize the flow and improve mixing.
Maybe if you added an extra metallic tube around your combustor, it would reflect back the infrared radiation from the red hot metal, and slightly improve the torch's efficiency? (probably not by much though)
Cool vid but whats disterbution?
While burning gasses expand, this itself causes turbulence in the burning gas. As a result you can't really make a laminar flow of burning gas. What might work is to combust the gas in a chamber and channel the hot exhaust through a laminar flow nozzle.
It looks like a stalactite burner. It could be called jajaja.tu. You're great. Greetings from Argentina.
Greetings friend , thanks for your input .
reminds me of a forced air ribnin burner like typically used on forges. Try an insulating material for the nozzle.
... they call it ....madd max!
Cool torch. What if you leaned all nozzles as if they were a section of twisted cable, before brazing them all together?
that would be cool , give them a vortex action
@@NOBOX7 idk. . But that's what I was thinking. It must be something simple like that. I know there's not much difference between a prestolite and a turbo torch but the turbo torch burns hotter.. Or maybe it just heats faster. I just know that's the end result, (faster).
Hey, thanks again for sharing this video. I learned a lot and it's stuff I would have never considered to try.
@@NOBOX7 Don't you need to get rid of vortices to obtain a laminar flow?
if you look at old blue prints of rocket engines the tubes in the middle are longer than the out side ones on the inside of the combustion chamber .
The flame sure looks cool as hell. Maybe it's be good in an application where you need large areas of lower heat like letting classwork cool down / preheat.
Btw if you continue it and pack it with steel wool I'd try and find stainless stuff. I packed my lawnmower muffler with steel wool and it lit on fire like a burning catalytic converter and shot out in a spray of sparks... The stainless stuff has lasted much longer, it has still degraded over a few months of use, but not nearly as bad. Just mentioning it because I ran into it, but it doesn't look like this burner really wants to burn internally like with the other nozzle. Another cool build 😎
Thanks for the input , yes drain screen for a washing mashine is sold at menards and its like ss wool im gonna try that
Hey thanks for the ebay follow by the way ...
Nice work, mind if I ask what meter you are use to test the temperature
Te link is in description
@@NOBOX7 thanks
What'd you name the torch?
Nothing yet LOL im swept away from one cool idea to the next , kinda let the dust collect on this project
Blue Devil Rocket Torch
i say leave the laminar tubes and change the fuel and air intake to the rear of the chamber and slap that 2.5inch combuster on the front and let it rip
i agree
Hephaestus the blacksmith of the gods
I like it , never herd that one ...
@@NOBOX7 it's from greek mythology i believe
sem O2 é impossivel se chegar a altas temperaturas.
Isnt the hottest part of a flame the end of the blue flame.
Imma put one of these bad boys in my forge and see what temps I can hit!
Good for you for buildin things like this
Using propane? Or another gas/gasses?
this is propane
Right on, I guesses as much, but hard to tell for sure from a video screen. I'm guessing you're not entirely happy with the flow on this? I thought also that the cones would be more from the center than along the perimeter.
Interesting design though.
@@NOBOX7
Song?
All u need to make DIY lampblowing torch is a lampworking torch
Use dicyanoacetylene, flame temp 9010 deg F, and name it Cold Ethyl. 😄
When replacing gas with water its a tri p
Glow torch
The apollo
name; Fafnir
DO NOT PACK THAT THING WITH STEEL WOOL STEEL WOOL IS FLAMMABLE. USE COPPER WOOL OR CHORE BOY. POSSIBLE FLASHBACK POTENTIAL WITH STEEL WOOL
ADD A HYDROGEN AFTERBURNER FOR MAD HYPE!!!!
LOL
you basically just built a Herbert Arnold Bench Burner
Not even close
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There's nothing laminar about what you just created there dude
Had you seen the first video you would no that the fuel mixture is homogenized by a laminar flow ss tube array , the flame is not laminar obviously
It's too yellow, needs more oxygen.
The yellow is from the metal burning even though it appears to be from rich mixture . i have tested with the couling off and it stays blue white
@@NOBOX7 I think it’s because you didn’t add any mesh screen inside the metal tube cavity to give a better fuel + air mixture. Your other video update shows a perfect blue flame since you added the mesh screen.
just go ahead & call it a bad mu f...