Faith, Reason and Inner Engineering: Jaggi Vasudev, Javed Akhtar at THiNK 2012
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2012
- Jaggi Vasudev & Javed Akhtar in conversation with Shoma Chaudhury at Tehelka's THiNK 2012 session on "Five Star Fixes? Ancient Technologies for the Modern Mind"
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The moderator is unbiased & that's something to be applauded for!
really like the moderator. she is amongst the two icons and still in control
Javed Akhtar is thinking like the way I was thinking in my teen. Sadguru talks about methods and longevity.
Javed vs Sadhguru = common sense vs Spirituality..
Let me give an example for it.
If you ask Mike Tyson about boxing he will tell you some methods to win but can’t convince a lay man who uses common sense to ignore what Mike Tyson said.
I request everyone to watch this video in following manner:
*No Athlete becomes successful until he uses some method to accumulate qualities to win.
* Athlete boost his qualities over practice.
*Spirituality is a process of methods and practices. It has to be done then discuss.
*If it is discussed without doing it.. Javed speech seems right.
So If I watch this whole video considering Sadhguru as some Athlete and Javed as someone who is using common sense.
Athlete knows what he is talking! But can’t convince others.
@@maqsoodi1000ur analysis is really stupid
@@sreenivasb9348i wish you made sense. Athletes know that if they work hard they’ll succeed, it’s fact. Many people have done it. It’s not an idea which can’t be tested alike the claims made by Sadhguru. He has never been able to prove anything. Athletes knowing that “METHODS” will get them somewhere is the use of common sense. Without common sense what are we? Can you succeed without common sense?
@@sreenivasb9348read about Strawman fallacy and try to avoid using it.
I don't think it would be possible to have this kind of conversation right now in our country given the political climate.
you misjudge the political climate free speech is on the rise in india, dont belive people that say otherwise
We are having an "eradicate Sanatan Dharma" type discussion right now.
My thought exactly... its not about who is right or not. It is about having a forum where ideas can be debated and an audience that is open to both sides. More of these are needed.
So true , environment of debate is gone...all predecided, since 2014 my way or highway ...even gurus are scared...Ab to khud avtar declare kar di
exactly and that is unfortunate reality
Sadguru’s gibberish is exhausting. I still can’t believe that I fell for it back in the day. Thankfully better sense has prevailed since then.
I think that what you can't understand is garbage to you and have not any desire to understand his words.
@aditya.. gibberish is gibberish.. doesn't matter how intellectual you try to be.. it will still be gibberish.
Yeah I believed his pseudoscience statements..😢
You fell for it??
Don't get ahead of yourself buddy.... You never got it at all
@@user-ss6pp1yb2w woah..then it's better if I've not got it....
11 years back when I watched this video, I was one among few who were praising Javed saheb for his Rationality in the comment section, and everybody else was just abusing him...But now this comment section is filled with all praises and rational thoughts about Javed Saheb...India has grown so much in these 11 years...🔥
Absolutely, I agree. Revisiting it today, Javed makes a lot of sense. Life experiences really shape our perspective. Yet, there are still people who admire Sadguru's teachings with that distinctive background music . He's their world, just as he was mine once 😂
Really??he uses his rationality only when it comes to hindu thought process.do u even know there is death penalty for atheist in kuraan along with hate for kafers,women subjugation,nd violence for spreading islam. nd he wont question it.he is just opposing nd quesrtioning hindu thought as a devout muslim would do.he wont question any muslim cleric abt kuran nd mohmed, when the entire world suffers from extremism from his community
@Sameer-wy7cy ...well kid even Brahmins are Muslims, who took refuge in a Buddhist country known as India...
@@avgb2115kid, now i can understand the level of intelligence nd knowledge u have.buddhism was defeated in india by the great sage adishankara in debate not by war bec india is the land of debate.main philosophy of buddhism nd hinduism is non violence.judge was also buddhist monk.the real reason for decline of buddhism in north nd afghanistan nd pak were islamic invasions tht happened over the period of 1000 years.buddhist monks who didnt convert were keeled in lacks by chuslims.taliban have recently destroyed bamiyan buddha statues of afghanistan which aurangazeb tried to destroy 500 years ago bt failed.thts the main reason buddhist monks of myanmar started to hate chuslam nd it led to rohingya muslim crisis.u can be peacefull bt u can never sleep with rabis dog(chuslam)-mynmar buddhist monk.go read kid
@@Sameer-wy7cyIndia is special because we follow a constitution, unlike the Islamic world, which often bases laws on the Quran. The West decided to keep religion and law separate, seeing potential issues. Imagine if our life if main rules were from a religious book. Sometimes, I hear stories about how people were treated before we got independence, and how there was slavery and violence in the name of religion. We're fortunate to have a constitution now, and we should be thankful for what we have done. We should aim to make people happier, improve our lives, and reduce inequality in society 🙂
11 years ago I was supporting Sadh Guru now Im mature enough to difference between reality and fantasy.🙂
Same here
True
Same
Still uh choose stupidity
@@shashankshukla8811 lol. Good one.
7 year ago I was listening the talk and I was completely on the side of sadguru and today I am listening the same talk and now I am completely with Javed sir I am witness how the pendulum change with time and experience
You polarised , switching right and left
@@YogaToSamadhibruh
@@YogaToSamadhi and nothing wrong in it. Sadguru is just making fool and following Footsteps of Osho. Both are biggest fraudsters.
Javed Akhtar is thinking like the way I was thinking in my teen. Sadguru talks about methods and longevity.
Javed vs Sadhguru = common sense vs Spirituality..
Let me give an example for it.
If you ask Mike Tyson about boxing he will tell you some methods to win but can’t convince a lay man who uses common sense to ignore what Mike Tyson said.
I request everyone to watch this video in following manner:
*No Athlete becomes successful until he uses some method to accumulate qualities to win.
* Athlete boost his qualities over practice.
*Spirituality is a process of methods and practices. It has to be done then discuss.
*If it is discussed without doing it.. Javed speech seems right.
So If I watch this whole video considering Sadhguru as some Athlete and Javed as someone who is using common sense.
Athlete knows what he is talking! But can’t convince others.
@@YogaToSamadhi Oh so basically we shouldn’t use our own minds? Just blindly listen to what gurus say?
A toddler will believe that ghosts exist, but when he grows older, he will realise that ghosts are just a figment of imagination. Is that also polarised?
Isn't it kind of weird how religious people receive respect for their beliefs, while science-minded individuals who present evidence often don't receive the same level of respect? This dynamic helps us understand how religious people are perceived as being closed-minded.
Excatly! And they fail to understand that the science-minded individuals are actually using their own thinking ability ofcorse given to them by the grace of the very God they believe in..!!!
You are the opposite, 😂 religious ideas and thoughts are not respected, and most of the youth use their small brain and find that science is more logical than religious texts or ideas but that tiny-minded fellows don't know that 😅, modern science is also influenced by Vedas, Upanishads, I didn't say this, it's said the scientists
@venkatabhinavpoluri1748 I agree with the last sentence of your comment that modern science is also influenced by the Vedas, Upnishads and such ancient texts. But this shows that those are not 'religious texts' those texts are the thoughts and realizations about life, nature and our surroundings as understood by the scholars at that time. And so 'today youth finds science more logical than religious texts' doesn't exactly make that much sense in my opinion.!
@@shwetachaudhari1894 Religion texts are always not about the god or rituals, you said " those are not religious texts ", and if you get to know the cosmology and astronomy mentioned in Hindu scriptures, it opens a new dimension in your brain, "dimension" refers to to a new thought process, you will automatically question the modern science, I don't know whether that science is wrong or right, but they give a new approach to our brains, many foreign scientists themselves said it, so without knowing the scientific theories in the Vedas, and without knowing the truth how can we declare that the Hindu religious "science " is a pseudo-science, so many of youth declare them as mythology and call it as illogical, how can we declare? Damn they wrote Vedas and Upanishads for some thousands of years, many of those got demolished by invaders, just imagine how much science was there in those scriptures, " today's youth find modern science logical and Vedic science illogical, without reading the Vedic cosmology " I hope now it made sense
Not at all, in fact, the pseudo minded intellectuals respect the non believer and rationalist rather than spiritual gurus like Sadhguru.
In 5 year I have changed a lot .. jagi to javed I have grown to a man
Dhruv Rahti C Follower Spotted😂😂
I dont like sadhguru much, but try to lookout so called greatest philosophies which is vedantas, based on faith in god. Read tagore, vivekanand philosp"s . Javed akhtar is legend, but many philosophers went beyond, and give ideas of faith for human welfare and peace of mind.
I don't read tagore .. but i have read and have though about vivekanand ideology as a philosophical way ..but still the faith in god not the primary support any rational leader would stuck upto vivekanand has denied hundreds of arguments and ideas about hinduism mainly because he was a hindu soo .. i can't really say that he is rational at every point so i prefer more clear leaders or philosopher .. may be i lack knowledge somewhat. But few things i am clear about is god and its ideology .. i follow bhagat singh as clear perspective from indian leaders ..
@@worldtheduniyago cuck with your father
Body language and calmness tells everything!!
One wants to win..
Another answers calmly.
@Truth n Logic what did he said something plz tell me what? im curious.
@@animeuniverse5586 stupidity and ignorance.
If you paid attending, you'd realize that the first person that made a personal remark was Sadhguru. He said, maybe the speakers are set up this way because even if you hear, you won't understand. I believe both of them have egos but only one claims to be enlightened.
@@VishnuSharma-wm2no nop he didnt say that he said that i dont think my words are being understood or heard even.
The first remark sadhguru said was once javad was adviced by a guru to dont use his mind and this advice has been taken seriously 😂😂😂.
@@animeuniverse5586 20:45, that's when he first belittles Javed. Mildly inappropriate for a philosophical discussion if you ask me. I'm sure it's not just Javed though, it's hard to understand a man who himself cannot explain the reasoning behind his beliefs.
Now i know why tiktok is so popular...we have audiences like these that will clap and cheer anything
Absolutely right
There is one more thing that is very popular ..Isha foundation... But sadly outside of that people sometimes like to hear logic rather than crap... Vaise bahut buri li gayi hai guruji ki...inko bolo videos Bana ke Modiji ko de diya kare..ye sare aam Jaleel hona, bhakto ka 'faith' uth jaata hai..😂
@@mayanks1014 jali na teri bhi jali naa😂😂
@@mayanks1014 " guru ji ki le li " .. such a crap you are 😅😅
And especially thoughts of the javed akhtars chutiya audience seriously..
The clear winner here was the Moderator! Hats off to her!
Javed akhter is just brilliant..he knew in a country like ours he will be heavily criticised by everyone...still he went ahead
Javed Akhtar is thinking like the way I was thinking in my teen. Sadguru talks about methods and longevity.
Javed vs Sadhguru = common sense vs Spirituality..
Let me give an example for it.
If you ask Mike Tyson about boxing he will tell you some methods to win but can’t convince a lay man who uses common sense to ignore what Mike Tyson said.
I request everyone to watch this video in following manner:
*No Athlete becomes successful until he uses some method to accumulate qualities to win.
* Athlete boost his qualities over practice.
*Spirituality is a process of methods and practices. It has to be done then discuss.
*If it is discussed without doing it.. Javed speech seems right.
So If I watch this whole video considering Sadhguru as some Athlete and Javed as someone who is using common sense.
Athlete knows what he is talking! But can’t convince others.
watch exmuslim sachwala n exmuslim sahil n exmuslim Sameer and exmuslim apostate imam
@@sreenivasb9348 your throwing around bs that makes no sense...
@@sreenivasb9348 prove the method.
If an athlete will say to you solve 1000 maths problems before relay race, you will believe him?
No, because it doesn't make any sense.
You have to explain the method scientifically and logically, he doesn't do that, he just say to follow the method, specially when he is just a self proclaimed specialist,and on the top of that he spreads pseudoscientific nonsense.
@@sreenivasb9348 Getting scammed and conned is a practice, so is becoming a scammer and con-artist. The trick is to have a parameter to distinguish between getting scammed and getting value out of a barter. If a barter system is to console you and give you false hope then there's no point of becoming great at that placebo effect which has no real end result other than feeling dopamine of accomplishment while doing nothing. You can actually be an accomplished man with a resume of excellence or you can convince in your head that you're an accomplished man and you don't need any resume or work to support that!!
Also, tell me one thing, if you find ultimate spirituality and others are rejecting that, why go extra mile to sell that spirituality to get more dimwits in your bandwagon? Makes no sense, you already found Nirvana and others don't want that, yet you will take their worldly possession to give your most cherished nirvana for their possession...MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!! Is it because if you don't share and convince the nirvana you gained to other dimwits, someone will snatch it away from you. Just stupidity and making more of the same herd!
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Kunjal Chawhan This is the only real and best one
Super
super comment
😂😂😂😂Ha ha ha ha
Well Said 😎✌️✌️✌️✌️
well said bro... best comment ive read so far
"What about common sense?" That one liner is a badass winner.
If our scientists relied on common sense ..you couldn't be able to use smartphone...someone's belief helps us to develop not common sense...just think about that
@@medaesthetic1365 anyway it's not one of those religious beliefs that smart phone was made, it was a work of a rational mind.
@@sahoo82 I am talking about Ramanujan saying that a Goddess helps him to Find the mathmatical number...it may be right or wrong Don't know...But it was his belief
@@sahoo82 And Bro..common sense is also coming from those 5 senses which we have..argue with someone for learning not for Ego.simple fact presented By Sadhguru
@@medaesthetic1365 who is denying the five senses, the problem is sadhguru trying to explain the six sense dimension in a vague and convoluted way, that is subjective. By the way it guru is fake... Check out his video reaction and you'll know better how manipulative he is with words.
As a Korean I’m very happy to read uplifting comments for Javed. Shows majority of Indians are rational.
Majority indians are still superstitious.
How did you come to find this video??. I'm just curious 😅😅
You mean Sadhguru is or was asking the audience to believe anything?
@@ombembde3826 I listen to 90s Javeds songs. Don’t know this got recommended on my feed, just like you I was curious about Javeds view on religion. He is right about using logic, reasoning and common sense. The other guy was talking to trigger people’s emotions without facts or sources
Really??he is only rarional when it comes to hindus.do u even know there is death penalty for atheist in kuraan.he is just opposing nd questioning hindu thought as a devout muslim would do .he wont question any muslim cleric abt kuran nd mohmed, when the entire world suffers from extremism from his community.go read their book nd u will know y exactly he is doing tht
Javed Akhtar’s arguments were fantastic. I didn’t know he had such deep philosophical thinking, just wow!
Javed said Ramanujan was a human being he cannot be right all the time. This was in reference to the comment from the anchor that Ramanujan claimed that all he knew was from a Goddess. So javed basically denied that.
But ....Same things apply for Muhammad. He claims that he has got instructions from Allah. Now Muhammad was also a Human being and he cannot be right.
So basically a religion was found out of nowhere.
Superb
@@santuchakraborty6642 thanks bro
It was invented (Islam) , not discovered, and u can invent almost anything
Just like our elders decide some rules for the house, because they have more wisdom, similarly Muhammad decided some rules for Muslims, because of his understanding of himself and the world around him, and I'm sure he wasn't alone there, there must be many people around him, helping him, his friends, colleagues and all, nothing too fancy about it
@@naveensharma2509 please search Neeraj Atri, see his video. He has made videos on Quran.
Javed akhtar is the older version of joe😂
Hahaha 😂😂🤣
Lolz.. Well said !!
Exactly...hahahha
correct 😅
Seriously man.....😂😂
Wow!!! Modern science is so true….,hats off to Mr Javed
idiot
I think this could be a right statement that you peel onion, you get nothing, there could be another way to put something in onion, then peel the onion, then what? You will be getting something, if you didn't get? Mr. Modern science(for a while)[modern science is way forward] don't you cut the onion from head "the roots".
Look, this is from Joe Root. Always get neglected, sir, keep your private part uncut, at least in your next generations. Not in next, then coming. by cutting cover of penis are you not punishing Allah. What does Allah do wrong with momin/momina, I agree you are atheist. You choosen wrong mirror to write your poetry, If you could choose the right mirror, then Naam Shabana.
You could be the poetry minister of any country.
Sorry😢.
This has nothing to with modern science.his rationality only kicks in when it comes to hindu thought process.do u even know there is death penalty for atheist in kuraan along with utter hatred for other religions nd gods.he is just opposing nd questioning hindu thought as a devout muslim would do.he wont question any muslim cleric abt kuran nd mohmed, when the entire world suffers from extremism from his community
@@Sameer-wy7cy and your rationality seems to only disappear when it comes upon hindu religion being an atheist means that one have given up his religion so on one hand u call him atheist and on the other hand you say that he is stern follower of Islam,how could that be? . About the death penalty in Islam for being atheist that's what Javed is saying that faith if exercised in wrong way can legitimise worst of actions done by a human being,he also gave an example of suicide bomber and think he was referring about Islam and it's wrong interpretation.There are many controversial things and they are present in every religion,same goes for hindu religion too as for Islam and Christianity and others.
@@Sameer-wy7cy every religion is a guide book to discipline people as we all live in a social group. But as time went, lot of rules and claims made by this book of faith, felt out of place and outdated. Of these lot, Islam seems to be the most outdated one and I agree with it. Having said that, other religion such as Hindu Christianity Buddhist etc are not free from outlandish claims and suggestions as well. Common sense should be ruled supreme to all these…
Very intelligent comments from Javed saab
20:40 "the microphones are arranged in such a way that even if you hear you might not understand". 🤣
That's neither funny nor profound just like sadaguru and if you find it to be otherwise then you are an utter moron
@@AKASHSINGH-tx5rc dude sadhguru want to indirectly say that you are dumb
Absolutely
and iam directly saying@@AKASHSINGH-tx5rc that you are dumb🙇♂️
Savage, javed is done and dusted 😜🔥🔥
I am here after Kunal Kamra's episode.
Me too..reading the comments section..what a turnover.. the people there praising Javed akhtar for his rationality while his getting battered here for the same😂😂 as sadhguru said..it's about perceptions 😂
Kuch bhi kuch bhi
😝😝😝
Same here....me too after Kunal Kamra episode😊
Me too 😂😂😂
Javed Akhtar is a no BS person. His thoughts are clear and with no complex crap.
You attached towards that because complexity needs more intelligence to understand.
Shut the **** up with your crap!! Sadhguru is clear and intelligent
I thik if some one didn't believe in God he also can't believe in humanity. Shame on fools like javed.
@@FunRider008No way !! Sadhguru literally said science textbooks are crap... And he'll never read them bcz they are incorrect. What a Hippocrate !!!
@@hemankkalshan6436he even didnt read Gita vedas and ramayana..he told Ram is just a fictional cjaracter .
Wht a crap he is !
we're nothing without our MIND. so flipping true 🙏
Then why suicides why self destruction wars u fool.. allabulla😂
so when you were born and when your mind was not developed, you were nothing...hehe
yes.@@pritesh1369
This is the beauty of Hinduism. You can question anything, even the existence of God like Brahma, Vishnu or Mahesh can be questioned. You have the full liberty to pray anyone. Even if you do not pray, that is also okay. It is not like Islam where your head will be removed from your torso if it offends the feelings of Muslims even if done indeliberately. Deen main aqal ka dakhal nahin. As far as yogic techniques are concerned, it can not be explained to anyone till the time you do it and realises the loads of energy in these mudras. All these mudras can make you feel and see even those things which you cannot see or feel from your five senses. It opens those portions of your brain which are never explored even till your death. Once you do it properly for a finite period of time, you will not be against Sadhguru. Shambhavi Mudra can make you feel in a different zone. Lord Shiva does it.
Javed Akhtar is thinking like the way I was thinking in my teen. Sadguru talks about methods and longevity.
Javed vs Sadhguru = common sense vs Spirituality..
Let me give an example for it.
If you ask Mike Tyson about boxing he will tell you some methods to win but can’t convince a lay man who uses common sense to ignore what Mike Tyson said.
I request everyone to watch this video in following manner:
*No Athlete becomes successful until he uses some method to accumulate qualities to win.
* Athlete boost his qualities over practice.
*Spirituality is a process of methods and practices. It has to be done then discuss.
*If it is discussed without doing it.. Javed speech seems right.
So If I watch this whole video considering Sadhguru as some Athlete and Javed as someone who is using common sense.
Athlete knows what he is talking! But can’t convince others.
Why people screaming and clapping when one a person counter other person. This is not a comedy show .
the asian because they agree with that person
Exactly. Why?
They liked their point so that's why they are screaming and clapping...It doesn't need to be comedy to do that..
They all are from same party no neutral audience
Kyuki sale adhe sirf timepass karne ate haii
11 year back I don’t know where I was but after hearing this debate I feel proud to see I am on good path as javed ji mentioned. And in the current time of Indian politics and Indian mind set it’s difficult to find a rational mind because most of them are busy following the vishvaguru in the name of LORD RAMA but they also know the truth that there is no way we are living under RAM RAJYA.
Even when you are on a wrong path u keep realizing that u ve been fed poison..when i was supporting this fascist regime in 2017 , there was something in me that kept telling me something is not right...( now i realise it was extreme right😂).
U got an easy life brother that’s why nothing changed for you do some ground work face the real world
Meditation helped me during my years of depression. Spirituality, among other ‘ methods’ can take you out of a mental dark pit. I don’t believe that spirituality is just nonsense philosophy of some modern gurus. Their is so much written and practiced since ages, and even today when l took this methods help, it helped
Power of Education 👍👍
Javed Akhtar is thinking like the way I was thinking in my teen. Sadguru talks about methods and longevity.
Javed vs Sadhguru = common sense vs Spirituality..
Let me give an example for it.
If you ask Mike Tyson about boxing he will tell you some methods to win but can’t convince a lay man who uses common sense to ignore what Mike Tyson said.
I request everyone to watch this video in following manner:
*No Athlete becomes successful until he uses some method to accumulate qualities to win.
* Athlete boost his qualities over practice.
*Spirituality is a process of methods and practices. It has to be done then discuss.
*If it is discussed without doing it.. Javed speech seems right.
So If I watch this whole video considering Sadhguru as some Athlete and Javed as someone who is using common sense.
Athlete knows what he is talking! But can’t convince others.
जावेद अख्तर जी के सामने अब कोई धर्मगुरु नही आएगा,,, 😅😅😅😂😂😂 ऐसी तैसी करवाने के लिए 😅😅😂😂😂
Yes thats is what has been said many times by osho too that knowledge is the stumbling block and because you think you know everything because you have education and a degree from a renouned university you start to think that you know everything and that's where you wont accept things that were not taught by someone through your life.
@@bobby3787Osho is not a good example if you know about his life. Then again people with education and knowledge are the ones who created almost everything that we use today in our society. Only low IQ idiots with education will think that because they have education they don't have to learn anything new.
One guru advised him not to use mind ..i dont know whose guru said this..but i certainly understood that he has taken it seriously.....matlab....gajab ki line kahdi........😗😎
And Javed didn't understand it..... Ignorance is bliss... Ha ha ha
@@sandhyashrestha9549 he didn't understand becoz he is stupid.
But the fact is Mr. J is the proponent of mind..... whereas the guru is the opponent of mind. And Mr. J says that he has never taken any guru seriously to this taunt by the guru.
one guru advise him not use mind now we understand y he say
Javed Bhai need some time..jaggi ke aage Javed Avi baccha he..ND I hop Is janam me Javed tuch see naa ho payega..
if i remove all the vocals and see the muted video... i found person on left very calm and chearfull and person on right a very impatient, impulsive and very annoying... i was tht he gonna hav heart attack any moment.... this simly reflects the difference between an atheist and mystic.......
oh and the moderator is the crow which they have shown in the beginning..
Hahaha, Crow lol!
I laughed really loud reading your comment :D
sameer duggal so truee!!! lol 😂
bro,u rocked it
sameer duggal ohhh that s the ans i was looking for thank u for saying this behalf of me...en chutiyo k beech jana he nhe chahiye tha...they just keep saying their raag jo hmesha se gaatey aaye hai...bhains k aagey been bajana aaj dekh b liya
I like to watch this video to listen Javed sir again n again
Javed ji ko samaj nahi hai....what sadhguru said about beyond...its all about a state of mind,the intellect....javed is just doing a debate with a normal thought process.
I watched this in 2016 I was not happy with Javed sir but today it’s 2024 nd I’m mature enough what he was trying to say
Same here
After some year's...realizing of fundamental life you'll appreciate others too...
3 years ago I am on the side of javed sir. Now I understood sadhguru. This is what maya means. and I dont know about javed sir but I am sure sadhguru is well aware about this maya.
sometimes reason will help you. sometimes faith will help you.
sometimes reason can kill you and same with faith.
when sadhguru says dont identify with mind, he means dont identify with these dualities. he wants us go behind these dualities.
Swamivivekananda is back again it seems after looking to his speech n gentleness
I think, if he is like wow.. then swami vivekanand was what type of personality...
@@electricalstudypoint6576s I do agree no one can be compared to swami vivknanda still sadgurs thought n views touches his points
@@electricalstudypoint6576honestly sadhguru is far more integrative than Vivekananda
@@dasndascooking6702 may be, that time interaction media was not like modern era.
@@rahirahi438 absolutely right.Swamiji is unique without any reason,faith or believe.no way
Im a Muslim from Pak....the one liner of the show that can change lives out ther was by sadh guru
" ONLY WHAT YOU PRECIEVE IS LIFE"
i think its important to mention that you a muslim before mentioning something good, genuine or intellectual.
otjerwise people will never realise that the comment is made by a muslim.
and what about javed?
I think only good muslims left india in 1947 or evils don't leave this country proud on real muslim from the pakistan love from india
@@Sharvan1993 lol
@Shehzad Bhatti wtf😂
wow.. Javed Sir is the best
Best fool ever?
Well done Javed Akhtar ❤
❤
Javed Akthar is a fake atheist. He acts like an athiest after Vajypayee gave him an interview
Really??do u even know there is death penalty for atheist in kuraan along with utter hatred for other religions nd gods.he is questioning nd debating guru like an intellectual when his own community lacks minimal rationality when it comes to religion.he is just opposing nd questioning hindu thought as a devout muslim would do.he wont question any muslim cleric abt kuran nd mohmed, when the entire world suffers from extremism from his community
@@Sameer-wy7cydoesn't matter , atleast it's better to be atheist than to suffer while being religious just for the sake of afterlife
@@mohit_10 wt afterlife fool??hindus have concept of reincarnation or dissolution(moksha)of human soul into universal soul(param atma).do u even know hinduism??hinduism have had atheist from ancient times.thy were called charvaka sect, who questioned everything abt god nd dharma in hinduism nd its allowed in hinduism.shatrarta meaning debate is the soul of hinduism.u just need to be a good human nd do good karma ,no need of god worship or belief nd this kind person is also a perfect hindu.its all in our scriptures.i dnt give a fnck if javed questions sadguru.bt being so called atheist nd being from chuslim background ,he should be first questioning his own bloodthirsty cult nd thts the quality of real atheist.wt scripture nd religion does taliban,al queda etc,follow??thy follow pure chuslam,word to word.terorists are not misusing scripts bt are exact followers of it nd thts the true face of so called peacefull chuslam.let their population increase nd u will see mughal times allover again
Just see the body language of both you understood everything
Bilkul sahi kha apne
thats true mam
True
Beautifully brought to everybody's eyes 👍😊
Superb answer... u said 100% right.
Who's here after Kunal Kamra's episode ?
✌️
Me
Though watched way before kk episode but felt like watching again 😀
@Goldmine Telefilms tu chutiya. Me to already dekh chuka hu. 😂
Logo se pooch raha hu bas. 😂
✌️
"Absense of evidence is not evidence of absence" and that's something really common sensical.
i keep coming back to this
I will tell you people a story. There was a 5 year old kid and a man who sold scientific calculators. You know what the kid said when he met that man "Your toys are so bad".
+What The Films Can't stop Laughing LOL
Joke is intellectual but not laughable. I thought jokes were funny!
damn!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Javed akhtar is that kid
Rohin Sharma he said it’s a story!! And u found it a intellectual one..good enough!
I find only one thing from this debate and that is sprituality gives us a positive way to live life and it gives kind waves.....and these things u can see by mr. Javed akhter face which have only negative face
Me too 🙏💚😍SADHGURU😍💚🙏
Your Right Sanaya....
Sanaya khan you are on right path...
Your profile is fake
Pritesh Mathur ohhk but about me u should not worry.....duniya m bahut si chize h sochne ke liye sir aapko mera profile hi itna imp kyo lga😂
As an Hindu and Modi Voter, Javed is absolutely correct
Javed Akhtar is thinking like How I was thinking in my teen. Sadguru talks about methods and longevity. Javed vs Sadhguru = common sense and Spirituality let me give an Example for it. An athlete sitting and thinking about winning he may or may not win and the challenges he faces in the journey is common sense. Thinking of Methods to win and following it is what sadhguru said that’s spirituality. Now everyone knows common sense speaks both advantages and disadvantages. No Athlete becomes successful until he uses some method to accumulate qualities to win. So If I watch this whole video considering Sadhguru as some Athlete and Javed as someone who is using common sense. Athlete knows what he is talking! But can’t convince others.
Wat card r u trying to play here??? Coz clearly it's not working...
@@sreenivasb9348 You literally had to invent a hypothetical situation to portray Sadguru as the winner of the debate.
as an ex hindu and Modi hater I got you
Amazing just how people find ways to defend him😂
What you dont realise that what your athlete is accumulating in his mind ,the data he gained, the methods he's thinking of to dominate, all that is not spirituality but the accumulation of common sense fighting with their respective sport and gaining info overtime on how to become better.
All that my friend is simply just effort and logical inference of it.
"how about common sense" he nailed it there.❤❤❤
Javed Akhtar is thinking like the way I was thinking in my teen. Sadguru talks about methods and longevity.
Javed vs Sadhguru = common sense vs Spirituality..
Let me give an example for it.
If you ask Mike Tyson about boxing he will tell you some methods to win but can’t convince a lay man who uses common sense to ignore what Mike Tyson said.
I request everyone to watch this video in following manner:
*No Athlete becomes successful until he uses some method to accumulate qualities to win.
* Athlete boost his qualities over practice.
*Spirituality is a process of methods and practices. It has to be done then discuss.
*If it is discussed without doing it.. Javed speech seems right.
So If I watch this whole video considering Sadhguru as some Athlete and Javed as someone who is using common sense.
Athlete knows what he is talking! But can’t convince others.
@@sreenivasb9348 very well put sir 👍👌👌👌only people who have meditated knows the real benefits of it others just preach,I also used think like Javed sahab before doing any meditation as if I know everything
Javed sahab used to visit osho for every evening session in Pune later he read few books about atheists n just used those statements here in the debate, basically improvising from whatever he learnt over the years about atheists
Meditation does things which no doctor no medicine no family friends can do for us,most practical thing ever invented thanks to our ancestors of India🙏😊
@@sreenivasb9348bruh u mad? 😂
@@MotivationGuru12922andhbhakt😂❤
"Common sense is not so common"
- Voltaire
According to the comment section, if you're speaking in a confident calm manner you can pass as the superior being who knows all.
Wtf.
Exactly, 90% of the comments here are by intellectually bankrupt, emotionally charged and credulous Sadguru fanatics who have no idea of how to distinguish fact from fiction.
Yea. Right
Yes bro if your calm and talking shit
That doesn't makes you intellectual
People are just seeing his personality not what is he saying
@@anuragkumar678 right
Tho what Javed said made total sense what sadguru said didn't quite make sense, can you please explain?
When it's Fantasy Vs Facts 🔥🔥
@@defaulter4087 teri language se pta chl rha h "kilas gyi"😂😂🤣
btw... aapki thodi si knowledge ko expand krne ke liye:-
Fantasy- ek pari aayegi aur mujhe udaa ke le jayegi
Facts- accepting "pari-wari nhi aayegi", khud efforts lagayenge... invention ke liye idea sochenge, shuru me fail honge lekin ek din to aeroplane banega, ek din to udega. Apni imagination ko reality bna do😌
@@defaulter4087 IITian hone se kya hota h??
language se to ab bhi "chhapri nibba" lg rha h😂
IITians ki naak katwa di
@@defaulter4087 description diya tha??
bachhe, vo bs source of imagination tha
agr kisi ne Aladdin ke flying carpet ko imagine krke flying car banayi hoti to iska mtlb ye nhi hota ki Aladdin ne flying car ka formula diya tha🤷🏿♂️
or ye sun earth ke distance wala zara logic explain krna😂😂 (science student h na to units ka to pta hi hoga)
@@defaulter4087 tujhe jyada science pta h to bta de na
enlighten us😌😌
coming back to this years later, Kierkegaard se Camus tak ka safar tay kiya hai.
You are obsessed with only western culture and look down on Indian culture because u have a servile colonial dog mentality. U are a western bootlicker. U think u sound smart because u said Kierkegaard, u are not ur an idiot just like them. U are limited into ur thought and emotion which u have gathered from outside, there fore it is not you. Instead of being a western bootlicker next time say patanjali and abhinavacharya, Shankaracharya and Krishnamurthy. U probably don’t even know them and look down on them because ur a western bootlicker and servile colonial dog.
I am also here.. After 7 years.. When I have seen this video.. I got interested in to Spirituality.. Then I studied this.. Today I am researching on this from one of the most premium institutes.. All I can say.. I see there is hardly separate stand points of debating here.. As 80% time.. They are talking the same in different languages and different understanding of the same..
Human has created religion and not the other wise...we simply underestimate the power and capacity we house as a human being...Our creations are so powerful that we are falling prey to our own creativity and that's spectacular and dangerous at the same time.
Wow! Nice way to look at it
True
Everyone understand difference between Cool mind and Fool mind..
Who
Same as the Difference between you and sadaguru😆
don't say fool mind.....they are not fool ....they are doing it as a propagandist (javed akhtar)
@@sanatansanskriti8704 another half literate......sadaguru has a propaganda bcs his livelihood depends on it not javed.....he is a writer...sadaguru has to con people to make a living......damn the irony is totally lost on fools like you
@@AKASHSINGH-tx5rc today writers have the most dangerous weapon in the world....they slowly slowly turns mind based on their observations...take example as the wire ,the print and all foreign channels
Javed Alhtar sahab has my respect. Loved the way he came up with logical points ❤
Javed Akhtar is thinking like the way I was thinking in my teen. Sadguru talks about methods and longevity.
Javed vs Sadhguru = common sense vs Spirituality..
Let me give an example for it.
If you ask Mike Tyson about boxing he will tell you some methods to win but can’t convince a lay man who uses common sense to ignore what Mike Tyson said.
I request everyone to watch this video in following manner:
*No Athlete becomes successful until he uses some method to accumulate qualities to win.
* Athlete boost his qualities over practice.
*Spirituality is a process of methods and practices. It has to be done then discuss.
*If it is discussed without doing it.. Javed speech seems right.
So If I watch this whole video considering Sadhguru as some Athlete and Javed as someone who is using common sense.
Athlete knows what he is talking! But can’t convince others.
Read ur comment after 10 years u will laugh at it😂 trust me
@@sudhirchoudhary4823 please explain why will I laugh? Very curious to know
@@Strangercommenter because I have seen this video few times over years,trust me Javed sahab is just talking irrelevant things,he is repeating what he read from books basically contradicting what Sadhguru just said in video everything u have is an accumulation of what u have absorbed, meditation helps a person what doctors n medicine can't do and Javed sahab is saying spiritual journey is bs? really?I have myself done many forms of meditation over years n every one has different benefits,Javed sahab himself used to attend every session of Osho at Pune back in the days every evening then he read few books about atheists n thinks he is smarted because he doesn't believe in God or spirituality,if some people get peace of mind by thinking about his god n feels positive what's the problem?his son is a prime example of what a dumb person is went to CAA protest without reading the bill n said itney log aaye hai toh kuch hoga he
Don't follow sadguru as blind bhakt but atleast learn good things from him
Trust me u will also grow in few year n re-watch the video with new unbiased thinking
Javed sir have almost no haters....He is great atheist❤
I thik if some one didn't believe in God he also can't believe in humanity. Shame on fools like javed.
ओशो से मिलता तो सारी नास्तिकता निकल जाति
Brooo you wrong
I hate him 🤗
@@Priya-bf7ys And the only reason that he expose religion.😊
Joe’s father came to argue with Sadhguru! Poor him 🤣🤣🤣
Lol😆😆😆
Well said sweetie
Lol😂
Ari Luiza true 😂😂
😂😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥
One of the best debate i ever had😍
It’s not even a debate ..it’s one sided 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@harikrushna795 listen carefully, it's double sided
😂
Javed Akhtar is thinking like the way I was thinking in my teen. Sadguru talks about methods and longevity.
Javed vs Sadhguru = common sense vs Spirituality..
Let me give an example for it.
If you ask Mike Tyson about boxing he will tell you some methods to win but can’t convince a lay man who uses common sense to ignore what Mike Tyson said.
I request everyone to watch this video in following manner:
*No Athlete becomes successful until he uses some method to accumulate qualities to win.
* Athlete boost his qualities over practice.
*Spirituality is a process of methods and practices. It has to be done then discuss.
*If it is discussed without doing it.. Javed speech seems right.
So If I watch this whole video considering Sadhguru as some Athlete and Javed as someone who is using common sense.
Athlete knows what he is talking! But can’t convince others.
@@sreenivasb9348brother..mike tyson can very much convince me about his technique to win...if he gives me logic which i am sure he have...he will tell me how to dodge a punch while attacking at the same time with all the consequences and probabilities ...then i will surely understand and follow...boxing is no magic that a layman cant understant without experiencing and now stop spamming ur bullshit or debate with me
Javed sahab >>>
If I ever get to meet Javed sir in person, I would thank him from the bottom of my heart for this interview.
Javed Akthar is a fake atheist. He acts like an athiest after Vajypayee gave him an interview
Stupid audience always claps and "wooo"s, rather than listening to both the sides and learning from it. This is a prime example of it...
bloody politics
this is mind and mind is alaways stupid
And these idiots elect the government. No wonder goons are elected.
Correct...
True
Carefully lokk at the faces of both of them. Sadguru is calm while Javed is mad with rage
Yes that proves like what?
@@onlyitj A wise person never lets anger overtake himself. Javed may never had got a teacher who taught him the principles of islam correctly due to which he became an atheist. Sadhguru is a yogi, a wise person. He knows what to speak at what time. Am not saying that all he says is right but he speaks sensibly, calmly like a saint while Javed is raging like a mad bull
@@thespiritualomnist Javed is not a saint, he speaks with logic and conviction but I agree he could be nicer
So those with blood pressure?
@@onlyitj but that's the problem he only understand everything with crude scientific logic that demands "measurement".. If it can't measure it isn't scientific... And not everything in the universe is "measurable"... Just like he said about Ramanujan... Just becoz he can understand it... It means he is wrong.. 😂
Jaggi Vasudev have nothing but only skillful in playing with words and meanings that too in a way that cannot be understood by common people. Round and round and round 🙏🏻
if you have had sense then you would understand it. Try to understand what he means, dont just be biased to anyone, try to listen to both of them without being on one side
And you are same fool
@@ParulWadkar 1,00,000 for initiation??? really???
@@ommakadia3815 1,00,000 what? can you elaborate
Assguru
Javed Ahktar sahab is a gem.
I've listen many debates but this one is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
when ever i listen sadguru i learn new things this time a learn how to tolerate a man without a mind
o🙏 or a man who is only mind
Agreed I have experienced same
Yes
Both are equally right...
Learn about the origin of the universe.... evolution of life ...try to understand it or watch the shows that explain them...like the show COSMOS.
believe me you will start questioning yourself and everything around you and slowly start loosing faith in the irrational and illogical thing you believe in (religion)
But anyway we live in a free country ... believe whatever you want but do consider logic , reasoning, evidence etc.
Javed is a realist.
The best thing is just listen to the gurus and let your own mind decide. What's right and what's wrong.
Ye sale sadhguru ke followers ko koi kam nahi hai, khud se kuch hota ni to ek koi na koi leader chahiye inhe. Baki Javid kitne bho logic dal le, in followers ko lagega Javed he bewakoof hai par inko ye nahi pata ki asli bewakoof to ye log hai jo sadhguru jese dhongio ko ameer bana the hai bina baat. Ab log bolenge me javed akhtar ka fan hun. Abe bhai agar koi insan logics use karta hai and tum uski side lo to tum uske fan nahi ho jaate. Rahi bat sadhguru ki, koi logic nahi baato me, bas spiritual hone ki acting kar do. Janta me to dimaag hai nahi.
How can you decide something with mind which is beyond mind.
The anchor handled it like a boss....
Hinduism is always targeted and attacked by enemies with their best efforts.
He is not against Hinduism, he is against all religion.
Hinduism is targeted because you can question Hinduism. If Islam would be questioned it will no longer exist.
Has anybody ever seen a debate on Islam with non Muslims participation.
@@prashantc1 Javed doesn't believe in Islam either, and he was born in a muslim family.
Sadaf and Pranay, bitches go and watch Deewar movie you will come to know
Hinduism is not Dharma or culture as Athens and foreigners used just beczo we lived near Sindhu river and our way of living and social interaction and worship and daily routine and then we called Hindu becoz we perform some daily routine and slowly it was considered as dharm or culture
Like Muslims Jain boddh Christ we don't have any person who started to be called as originator as phrophet and Jesus
Indeed from Alexander to gaznavi from him to aurangzeb and then britishers but still we are sharing enough share in the world's population becoz we are inclusive and optimistic in our life and don't dare to hurt an ant just becoz we see life in everything.
Love sadhguru calm and he always smile as like krishna used to do even in hard situation ... but javed needed to shout to prove his point , i don't know what their scripture say , but our scripture says , a knowledgeable person never make shout , only half filled things make shout ... of course sadhguru must face criticism , everybody criticize Ram , krishna too in their time .. but they answered critic so they known as incarnation of god .... if you believe in Sadhguru , then always remember you are a seeker , you don't know anything , even you have to found truth in sadhguru , not by listening him but by seeking inside yourself ...
vladimir nirputin Very well said!
Krishna was also a womanizing, sexist, stalker
Nilay Kulkarni
because you have small knowledge of shashtra , if you think he had sex with his 16K wives then you are wrong , it was like those girls marry to krishna as the way girls used to marry rajesh khanna in 70s of bollywood ... krishna never made physical relation with them.... and yes krishna was mischievous child but still did everything to establish dharma , even he got punishment for his bad things , he died too, his whole family died , dwarka drowned in water ... krishna message was " nobody is safe from bad karma " .. and people know krishna was not ulitimate god , he was just incarnation .
very well said..i want to seek
Absolutely pathetic Nilay. This is what modern education and feminism has done to youth. Spineless little twat.
Javed akhtar just nailed it
Javed Akhtar is thinking like the way I was thinking in my teen. Sadguru talks about methods and longevity.
Javed vs Sadhguru = common sense vs Spirituality..
Let me give an example for it.
If you ask Mike Tyson about boxing he will tell you some methods to win but can’t convince a lay man who uses common sense to ignore what Mike Tyson said.
I request everyone to watch this video in following manner:
*No Athlete becomes successful until he uses some method to accumulate qualities to win.
* Athlete boost his qualities over practice.
*Spirituality is a process of methods and practices. It has to be done then discuss.
*If it is discussed without doing it.. Javed speech seems right.
So If I watch this whole video considering Sadhguru as some Athlete and Javed as someone who is using common sense.
Athlete knows what he is talking! But can’t convince others.
@@sreenivasb9348boxing is a real sport, there is nothing mysterious about it.
You have to explain the method and how it will work, how did you reach to that method?
Explain it scientifically
The interviewer called Sadguru again for a debate with Javed, and Sadguru hung up the call....😂🤣
Can somebody tell Javed that even he's human being and he can't be always right.
there is no god
Same goes to sadhguru as well
@@sontsa1597 It goes for all mam . But one must show respect to the person who's much noble in his life and goal than you.
None of them can be equalise to what Ramanujan was and talking with such disrespect for Ramanujan just shows the arrogance and illiteracy of the man.
ruclips.net/video/NgeRAIK3KFM/видео.html
People who are clapping, people who are judging who won and who lost, people who are getting arrogant... please know that this is an intellectual discussion. One should remain serious and just try to learn from these two people. This is not a comedy show. Please watch this video to understand the value of arguments in learning process.
@@sontsa1597 well funny thing is Javed Claims to be poet when he doesn't even want to wonder why musquito is there lol? He wants to live like animal and stop seeking.
As for Sadguru being right. Sadguru never promised that. The difference here is not about being right and wrong. The distinction is between more wrong and less wrong. And Javed was acting like an animal who is satisfied lol. And by the way his so called science also tried to find why musquito is there lol.
I respect sadhguru from inner heart ...people who are commenting here for sadhguru must also be respect him and follow him ...but as I can see in almost all the comments is they are abusing Javed Akhtar ...I know he was fury while answering ...but why don’t you keep calm as sadhguru did ..this proves that you are also one of Akhtar’s category !!! I just want to make a point please don’t be judgmental
Nitin You are right
Nitin Your true follower of Sadguru.
👍👍
Immensely happy to see you immerse Sadhguru's teachings to your life, truly this is what we need and we'll be at a diffrent stage once we all understand Sadhguru's teachings.
Nitin Jangid guys like you end up losing their girl and businesses .. watch out the world is pretty manipulative Sadhguru knows how to take care of his business and he has pussy aplenty when and where he needs it.. it's guys like you who come out poorer by your lack of focus and common sense
Guys come on instead of criticizing them try to get the knowledge both are at their best. Follow one by whom u feel convinced. Instead of spreading hate improve on ur self we are not even 10% of what they are!
Perfect comment ❤
I'm not a fan of Javed Akhtar's views otherwise but he nails it here.
Exactly
Really 😂
And how exactly did he nail😂
Javed Akthar is a fake atheist. He acts like an athiest after Vajypayee gave him an interview
Javed Akhtar is thinking like the way I was thinking in my teen. Sadguru talks about methods and longevity.
Javed vs Sadhguru = common sense vs Spirituality..
Let me give an example for it.
If you ask Mike Tyson about boxing he will tell you some methods to win but can’t convince a lay man who uses common sense to ignore what Mike Tyson said.
I request everyone to watch this video in following manner:
*No Athlete becomes successful until he uses some method to accumulate qualities to win.
* Athlete boost his qualities over practice.
*Spirituality is a process of methods and practices. It has to be done then discuss.
*If it is discussed without doing it.. Javed speech seems right.
So If I watch this whole video considering Sadhguru as some Athlete and Javed as someone who is using common sense.
Athlete knows what he is talking! But can’t convince others.
Javed Akhtar seems to be the opponent of mulla Nasruddin in every joke.
I realize kapil sharma's audience sitting in this conversation.. 😂
Hahaha
Agree. most brain dead drunk audience it seems..
I'm happy they didn't randomly get up and said they wanted to dance with either of them and then show the weirdest dance step ever invented.
@@Yoursanniemannie WTF are you on about? 😂
@@jaydutta7711 😂😂 well meth is illegal, so I do math
Came here after javed akhtar's remarks in Lahore
Javed Sir❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
You nailed it..........
Javed Akhtar is thinking like the way I was thinking in my teen. Sadguru talks about methods and longevity.
Javed vs Sadhguru = common sense vs Spirituality..
Let me give an example for it.
If you ask Mike Tyson about boxing he will tell you some methods to win but can’t convince a lay man who uses common sense to ignore what Mike Tyson said.
I request everyone to watch this video in following manner:
*No Athlete becomes successful until he uses some method to accumulate qualities to win.
* Athlete boost his qualities over practice.
*Spirituality is a process of methods and practices. It has to be done then discuss.
*If it is discussed without doing it.. Javed speech seems right.
So If I watch this whole video considering Sadhguru as some Athlete and Javed as someone who is using common sense.
Athlete knows what he is talking! But can’t convince others.
@@sreenivasb9348it was a debate between facts vs fantasy .....
😂
I don't know which guru told you this, but it seems that the advice has been taken seriously 😂😂
🤣
@bababoi baboi if your Statment are not contradict then you are hypocrite- Osho
@bababoi baboi language doesn't need to be perfect💯 it's just a way of communication
I never takes any sadguru seriously ,😂
@@rkmoonspvtl5693 yeah that's why Javed Akhtar is frustrated .
Wah wah javed sir "if you don't trust your mind then how will you trust your thought"
You don't always trust your thought. Do you?
even javed hasnt fully understood his mind thats why he is a moron who is speaking trash beacause it is proven in the current era by the scientist that there is a subconsious mind but rather accepting it there are fools like you who belive in javed
A thought is not always dependable or enough or both.
Then enters thought process
I am a Christian . Yes I am a BJP suppporter . they call us krisanghi in south.. No wonder Jaggi is invited in US, UN , Arab countries etc etc .. and loveday Javed in pakistan.. Shows the standard.. Aukaat mei farak.. javed lost the debate as soon as the Jaggi vasudev Opened his mouth .. just like that.. He was shown his place.. 🤣🤣Javed looked helpless like palestine and jaggi as Israel Mossad !
Great Mr.akhtar every human being should be scientific
Just went through this video session. I totally agree with the sensibility of Mr Javed Akhtar
Sage never strives to prove his wiseness.
Stupid always try to prove himself right. "Lao Tzu - 'Tao te Ching".
thanks for the quote man😇
Bsdk to enterance exam mat dia kar ban karwade
@@vishals7433 but India mai enterance exam hote hi nahi, maine toh aajtak keval entrance exam hi diya
Aur entrance exam is to find out your competitive capabilities (which is also important in some fields in this world) not your knowledge and neither your righteousness 🙏,aur kitne log nahi bhi dete hai tab bhi bohot aagye jatye hai
Ok let assume he want to fight, was his thought make sense or not?
@@alvinman8 please kindly be a little more specific,I am unable to understand you
One person is talking like a kid who wants to win and other person is answering calmly. You be the judge.
One person is doing personal attack and other is just being logical
Right now Karnataka High court is being the judge..... I guess you guys have to start "Save the fraud " campaign... But Modi ji ache mitra hai to jyaada problem nahi honi chahie..
23:00 U will find frustrated kid. Who just want to insult someone to look cool. Calm!!! LMAO.
One was logical and reasonable although other was trying to be logical by pravschans but looked foolish throughout
@@mayanks1014 I think u r wampanthi or Islamic follower so u can't accept another thought .
I couldn’t understand what sadhguru was talking about but I could easily understand the meaning of each word said by javed akhtar which is to value your own thinking and common sense. Don’t follow anyone blindly. We want more debates like these.
चेहरे पे साफ झलकता है ज्ञान और घमंड निर्णय जैसा भी हो बस आपका खुद का हो ❤❤
above session teach us that don't make argument in the front of people's who left brain at home !!!!!!
😂😂
Haa tu to bada hoshiyar hai bhai. Haha. Jo terse agree na kre wo chutiya.
*people
When u know least but ur mind thinks know everything... U behave like javed..
Exactly.... well said
True
U have understood just the reverse.
Well said Aftab :-)
Nithyananda and this Nithyananda would disagree
Why there is no such debates like this after 2014 in our country.
Open your eyes n you'll see, there are podcasts, debates more n more than before..
Doesn't matter who won. Sadhguru, Osho, JD Krishnamurthy, Swami Vivekananda, Eckart Tolle, Alan Watts, Srila Prabhupada they all teach the same thing which is beyond our thinking mind. They had helped me find peace within myself. I love every spiritual teachers of India
Swami vivekanand doesnot include in this list you have listed. Don't use swami vivekanand name carelessly.
I always had respect for Javed Akhtar but I never knew he is an over confident rude man..while Sadhguru was trying to explain, Javed was here only to make fun of him..he needs to learn to debate respectfully..
@Arham Ali
Even when he used to be the judge of Indian Idol, he appeared so nice..but look at this video
My God!!
That's bcs after years of hardwork and success he has to share a stage with a con man bhadwa like sadhguru......aur tum log unpadh chutiye ho😊
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God has sent Sadhguru to deal with ignorant people like you..
But Alas! when some one falls into a pit of delusion, even God can't save him!!
Your comment just shows your bad upbringing and poor values inculcated in you..
I should have said God bless you!! but I know even God's blessing will not help you now, as inly your suffering will help you now
🙏🙏🙏
@@putuls2653 Thats a perfect reply, even sadhguru replied similarly when the show was concluded, he said "you encountered a bad apple and assumed that all apples are bad.
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Javed Ji is not fit enough to be sitting & interacting with the great Sadguru Ji on any kind of debates and discussion.
You do not get to decide that.
Actually it's your inferiority complex.
My journey started with Sadhguru 2015 and now 2024 am totally agree with Javed sahab...
Both agree with that " if I think I know it ,then my mind will stop working. If
I agree that I donot know everything and I will never know everything then A curiosity to know ,to understand will be generated and only then I will start researching about it ."
Interviewer : What is the reason of your happiness?
Sadguru : I don't argue with fools. 😂😂
@@sim7717 here comes a typical jealous katwa
@@chandanmishra2569 Here is a comment made by another dim-witted follower of SADHGOAT (modi-backed so called guru).
@@sim7717 better than the hypocrite chutiya javed
@@mob2336 I'm not a great fan of javed either. However, things go wrong when someone shares stage with SADHGOAT and point out where he is going wrong then he starts stammering (irrespective of this very occassion). This so called guru appears to be omniscient (according to his dim-witted followers) when he is made to speak alone.
@@sim7717 LOL katwe can u point out where tf sadhguru said something wrong or from his imagination.Even u know that whatever he tells is from our practical lives which we all experience and so there is no space for any lies.
सद्गुरू: हम इस ग्रह पर क्यों है।
जावेद: क्योंकि इस ग्रह पर मच्छर है।
सद्गुरू: हम इस ग्रह पर क्या करने आए है।
जावेद: जो मच्छर करने आए है।
एक आदमी बहुत ज्यादा पहुंचा हुआ है।😁😁😁🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Javed akthar g ka kd bona hai sadguru g ke samne
Sadguru g legend
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“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
Mark Twain.
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Foolish people are not understanding thoughts a Javed akhtar 😊
Javid Akhtar is a legend.
Javed Akhtar is thinking like the way I was thinking in my teen. Sadguru talks about methods and longevity.
Javed vs Sadhguru = common sense vs Spirituality..
Let me give an example for it.
If you ask Mike Tyson about boxing he will tell you some methods to win but can’t convince a lay man who uses common sense to ignore what Mike Tyson said.
I request everyone to watch this video in following manner:
*No Athlete becomes successful until he uses some method to accumulate qualities to win.
* Athlete boost his qualities over practice.
*Spirituality is a process of methods and practices. It has to be done then discuss.
*If it is discussed without doing it.. Javed speech seems right.
So If I watch this whole video considering Sadhguru as some Athlete and Javed as someone who is using common sense.
Athlete knows what he is talking! But can’t convince others.
@@sreenivasb9348bull shit guy, based fellow
now i m totally agree with javed sir, "it is the mind ultimately"
It's the level of peace sadguru have achieved.. whereas the excitement and eagerness speaks unpleasant language with abusive words by Javed Akhtar.. success and money doesn't help you to have peace..
Till now i always considered Mr Javed as an intelligent man.. But he seems to be an irritated and stupid person. Sadhguru is calm and talks sense.
LifeInAMetro he is a man of literature , he is an intelligent man for mediocres
Akhtar has peeled the so called 'sad'guru layer by layer.... totally clean bowled n white washed. Bravo 🎉💯👌🏾👏👏. Salute to Javed Saab for taking up a challenging job n excelling at it. Respect 🙏
Javed bhai op 🔥🔥