My HLG Settings: HLG2 - Color Mode 709 a7iii footage is also only 8bit, so the colors tend to break when doing HEAVY color grading! What's your favorite picture profile? COMMENT BELOW!
I only bought it last week and have been testing the colour profiles, I really love the base iso 100 of the hlg, and I love that it looks almost perfect straight out of camera, those colours pop easily, I made a simple correction lut for it and editing with it is a blast! So after a fair amount of testing in different conditions I feel hlg is my favourite!
Using HLG3 here, with a manual knee at 80%, slope at +2 and detail at -7. That's the closest to a RED Gemini and BM Pocket 4K. Although both the Pocket 4K and Gemini still destroy the A73 in pure image quality, texture, colors, dynamic range, low light, codec etc...
I'm using HLG 2 for a few weeks now, its good, but as you said, 8 bit cant handle much correction in post so get your exposures and colors right , in camera
Young brother you are the BEST!!! Your videos prove to be the most informative and inspirational. I am a 60 year old retiree who needed a hobby and a purpose, and I found both via media creation. Your videos are my number one educational resource...thank you and please keep up the good work.
By our experience shooting with the a7III since last year, we find out that there’s two cases: - When working on a project with a tight deadline we use HLG (mainly HLG2), as this gamma has a good compromise between dynamic range and colors accuracy out of the camera. That said it’s definitely not meant to be a PP to have heavy color grading processing if any as the colors will unfortunately break very quickly with lots of noise and artifacts, applying gamma curve correction to the recorded images worsens the image condition further by processing already deteriorated images of the compression codec. Most of LUTs will absolutely destroy the image quality of HLG gamma, we really don’t use any. - When working on a project with ample time for post-production, we record an image that is as flat as possible allowing to process images more effectively being possible to push a bit more the color grading. S-Log2 or S-Log3 are the obvious choice but Cine 2 is in some cases a good option. In low light conditions, we tend to use our custom PP with adjusted black level and black gamma to get a clean image with no noise. Shooting in 4K is also essential in low light to get better results, 1080p will have noticeably more noise with the exact same settings and PP. That’s about it, all that we found out working with the a7III since a year ago, shooting almost daily with it professionally. Greetings from Lisbon
Thanks for sharing. When shooting in low light, may i know what is your custom PP? How do you adjust black level and black gamma to get a clean image with no noise? Appreciate your sharing, thanks again.
Mathieu Psyché hey yes S-Log is very noise in low light and you have to be over exposed by 1 or 2 stops and that’s hard to do in low light or at night when you’re at 800 iso
Hlg but I like it better on color mode 2020! More dynamic range! when you bring it in premiere and it converts to rec 709 , it looks flatter and gives you more control in my opinion then hlg rec 709! give it a shot!
i just got my Sony A7iii thanks for the knowledge I've been subscribed you been great help as I've been through my journey in film. Started learning with the Canon 80d worked that camera for 3 years. It was time!
I shoot HLG 3 overexposed by 1 and I love it. I haven’t tried HLG2 but I might soon. I find it far easier to grade and correct than SLoG and not as desaturated as Cine 4.
Thank You lol finally more folks seeing that shooting LOG is so over done now-a-days. I rarely shoot in LOG. lol Ive been shooting in Neutral with Picture Profile OFF. Great video sir.
just got my A7iii this weekend, this video came just in time as I learn how to use this camera (came from fuji xt2). Love your videos and content , thanks a lot for the information !
Appreciate the tip bro! I've got to try it myself...I haven't liked the profiles I've used up to this point on this camera. Definitely will try this out next shoot.
Hmmm I do get bothered by the harsh highlights on cine4 but I also feel like I’ve become used to adjusting for that in post and it’s also easier to do so when you don’t overexpose at all really. Would you say HLG is more soft than cine4? Looks less sharp to me in those two clips side by side at 2:20 - but of course, that would be a stylistic choice for each individual
I mostly use s-log2 on Sony 7iii / 7Rii (if a second cam is needed on a tripod or sth) and when it comes to low-light, I use an edited PP3 profile (by "MAKE. ART. NOW.", sorry for the ad here haha) for its super good noise performance! matching those up is hard sometimes tbh. what u think?
@@ChristopherOdd The conversion to rec709 is a LUT, just one that is included in the software (you can also convert it to Rec709 directly onto the timeline before you even get to the color grading, using Davinci color management. Not sure about other programs... Actually that's probably what he meant "internally"). LUTs that, for example, you buy from creators on youtube usually bypass the conversion to Rec709 for a more "cinematic" or creative look. The whole point of Rec709 is to have standard, realistic looking colors, and you can skip that and apply a custom LUT if you're going for a very different look.
I’m looking to get a new camera and I don’t know whether I should buy the A6300 or the A7II (not the mark3). I shoot 50% Video and 50% Photo and now I’ve got a Full Frane Canon. Should I leave Full Frame for more features or not?
THANKS!! Great video and so informative in such a short space of time. Do you adjust the HLG2 settings at all.before you shoot or leave as is? Do you adjust the sharpness/detail?. Cheers
will try this HLG profile, how should i colour correct and grade HLG footage? i like the colours as natural as possible & just add in a little punch on a few colours, can you do a video or direct me to a colour correction/grading tutorial for this HLG, i am a little confused about the rec 709 LUT that people add in post, where do i get that LUT from, i have a few rec709 lots that i downloaded but they make the footage look totally different instead :-( PLEASE HELP. THANK YOU
Do you recommend the Canon EOS R over the Sony? Also, it seems that EF and PL lenses are the best investments - would you say that’s true and part of the reason why you moved over to the EOS R?
You may want to drop the responsiveness of your AF when shooting your sitting down talking shots. The constant focus breathing was distracting for me - You can see it if you look at the iMac and window on the left of your frame
HLG is getting a lot of fans, finally... I started right away with that profile, but the HLG 3 though... Can you share your thoughts of 3 vs. 2, would be awesome.... Still trying to figure out 3 so I haven't even tested 2 yet. Peace
@@YCImaging thx man... So does it behave in low light / shadows, noisewise? Still trying to figure out how to damn expose and grade right and get rid of noise... I might have become obsessed and fixated with it, but I don't seem to find satisfying results... Anyways, a silent fan here, commenting rarely! Thanks for your awesome work I follow quite a bit, you rock!
@@DennisSchmitz thnx a lot Dennis... I saw somewhere that somehow HLG3 had a bit more trouble dealing with noise in low-light and shadow areas compared to HLG2, which wouldn't make much sense if they both have the same dynamic range if I'm correct?
@@serag6308 hlg1 has the least noise, least dynamic range. hlg3 has the most noise (at higher ISO's), most dynamic range. hlg2 is in the middle. look at sony's official guide, it's pretty straightforward.
I've actually filmed with PP turned off and managed to get OK results. I've changed the PP10 into HLG2 - 709 color mode, but is there more to do with the other settings in this profile? I've seen people turning the saturation -5 and setting Blacks +2 for example. I just reseted the PP10 and changed into HLG2 - 709 for the moment..
Hi, what do you mean with expose right on the zero the zebras ? put the zebra on +105 and check on the picture that you see no zebras anymore ? Right ? and the other setups in HLG 2 the detail etc...because I am a bit lost in all this setting! :) Many thanks!
My HLG Settings: HLG2 - Color Mode 709
a7iii footage is also only 8bit, so the colors tend to break when doing HEAVY color grading!
What's your favorite picture profile? COMMENT BELOW!
YCImaging have to try this out. Thanks man!
I only bought it last week and have been testing the colour profiles, I really love the base iso 100 of the hlg, and I love that it looks almost perfect straight out of camera, those colours pop easily, I made a simple correction lut for it and editing with it is a blast! So after a fair amount of testing in different conditions I feel hlg is my favourite!
What do you set your zebras when exposing this profile?
Using HLG3 here, with a manual knee at 80%, slope at +2 and detail at -7.
That's the closest to a RED Gemini and BM Pocket 4K.
Although both the Pocket 4K and Gemini still destroy the A73 in pure image quality, texture, colors, dynamic range, low light, codec etc...
I'm using HLG 2 for a few weeks now, its good, but as you said, 8 bit cant handle much correction in post so get your exposures and colors right , in camera
Young brother you are the BEST!!! Your videos prove to be the most informative and inspirational. I am a 60 year old retiree who needed a hobby and a purpose, and I found both via media creation. Your videos are my number one educational resource...thank you and please keep up the good work.
By our experience shooting with the a7III since last year, we find out that there’s two cases:
- When working on a project with a tight deadline we use HLG (mainly HLG2), as this gamma has a good compromise between dynamic range and colors accuracy out of the camera.
That said it’s definitely not meant to be a PP to have heavy color grading processing if any as the colors will unfortunately break very quickly with lots of noise and artifacts, applying gamma curve correction to the recorded images worsens the image condition further by processing already deteriorated images of the compression codec. Most of LUTs will absolutely destroy the image quality of HLG gamma, we really don’t use any.
- When working on a project with ample time for post-production, we record an image that is as flat as possible allowing to process images more effectively being possible to push a bit more the color grading. S-Log2 or S-Log3 are the obvious choice but Cine 2 is in some cases a good option.
In low light conditions, we tend to use our custom PP with adjusted black level and black gamma to get a clean image with no noise. Shooting in 4K is also essential in low light to get better results, 1080p will have noticeably more noise with the exact same settings and PP.
That’s about it, all that we found out working with the a7III since a year ago, shooting almost daily with it professionally.
Greetings from Lisbon
Thanks for sharing. When shooting in low light, may i know what is your custom PP? How do you adjust black level and black gamma to get a clean image with no noise? Appreciate your sharing, thanks again.
Thanks for sharing!
whats is the settings for Low light? Black Level and BLack Gamma?
Had no idea about the 709 preview, love it that you threw that in at end 🔥
I’d love to see more about HLG, like what settings do you use?
I love S-Log 2 and I only use Cine 4 in low light or night time situations
Hi nice feedback. Why do you prefer to use Cine4 in lowlight or night compare to Slog2 ?
@@mathieupsyche S-Log 2 is very noisy in low light.
i agree! i use the same as well 💪
Mathieu Psyché hey yes S-Log is very noise in low light and you have to be over exposed by 1 or 2 stops and that’s hard to do in low light or at night when you’re at 800 iso
@@MoiseNicolas Thanks GuyS ! ;)
PP1 all day lol
Well any settings changed? Or just in movie ?
Hlg but I like it better on color mode 2020! More dynamic range! when you bring it in premiere and it converts to rec 709 , it looks flatter and gives you more control in my opinion then hlg rec 709! give it a shot!
Just got the A7iii and I cant wait to start working with it. Youre a huge inspiration to my work!
i just got my Sony A7iii thanks for the knowledge I've been subscribed you been great help as I've been through my journey in film. Started learning with the Canon 80d worked that camera for 3 years. It was time!
I shoot HLG 3 overexposed by 1 and I love it. I haven’t tried HLG2 but I might soon. I find it far easier to grade and correct than SLoG and not as desaturated as Cine 4.
SAME! HLG3 overexposed by 1!
Perfect shots.
I don’t know how people can use it by exposing on 0.0
I get super dark footages
100% agree dude. HLG!!!! Great vid as always
slog2 > rec 709 is NOT adding saturation and contrast. its much deeper, im suprised you dont know this
You are the best youtuber. Period.
Solid as always....my fav man on YT atm...quick...straight to the action...easy to listen to....keep smashing it !!!
Starting using HLG2 for the same reason, definitely one of the better in camera profiles
Looks clean 🙌🏼
Creative Ryan do you use the same settings?
Thank You lol finally more folks seeing that shooting LOG is so over done now-a-days. I rarely shoot in LOG. lol Ive been shooting in Neutral with Picture Profile OFF. Great video sir.
where do i set neutral?? i can't find it =(
Under 1st menu. Pg 12/14 Creative Style.
@@STGFilmmakers oh found it haha. thanks!
Chuck nice! Happy filming!
Any videos with neautral
I made video portrait with cini4 its easy yo handle in post production. Slog is not easy to color grade for beginners.
Cini4 ❤️
@ycimaging.. just know slog is not really worth it on 8bit...10 bit is where log shines..
just got my A7iii this weekend, this video came just in time as I learn how to use this camera (came from fuji xt2).
Love your videos and content , thanks a lot for the information !
I can't believe I'm only now just seeing this video, love these tips I'm going to try HLG on my A7R III
Appreciate the tip bro! I've got to try it myself...I haven't liked the profiles I've used up to this point on this camera. Definitely will try this out next shoot.
Great advice well explained. Thanks for making it simple and straightforward!
Thanks bro as always crushing the tutorials and the greatest advice!
I use SLog 2 for Daytime and Cine 4 for Nighttime/ lowlight
Have you tried cine 2? That is a pretty solid profile and better for low light situations.
Yes! An anticipated video from you, thank you!!
I used slog2 in my A7iii for some reasons
*I have experience using that on the GH5 but since I got vlog haven’t gone back. HLG is dope tho*
Really good explanation, Great work, thanks
the goat strikes again!
Hmmm I do get bothered by the harsh highlights on cine4 but I also feel like I’ve become used to adjusting for that in post and it’s also easier to do so when you don’t overexpose at all really.
Would you say HLG is more soft than cine4? Looks less sharp to me in those two clips side by side at 2:20 - but of course, that would be a stylistic choice for each individual
This footage was shot with pro mist on so it’s all gonna look fairly soft, forgot to mention that.
Pro Mist and Black Satin ftw!
Great vid, thanks! Where is the menus is this profile?
what are ya settings for the black level/black gamma/knee/saturation ect..
Thanks
Amazing as always! Very pleasing image from HLG
Thank for all the good help
I mostly use s-log2 on Sony 7iii / 7Rii (if a second cam is needed on a tripod or sth) and when it comes to low-light, I use an edited PP3 profile (by "MAKE. ART. NOW.", sorry for the ad here haha) for its super good noise performance! matching those up is hard sometimes tbh. what u think?
I think he used pp2
Love your videos man. Helping a brotha a lot!
Thank you for the tip. Short and sweet.
I’m using CINE3, Peter Bloom’s recommendation. My recent videos on my channel are shot with that.
And how do you actually edit this sort of footage?
In Premiere, FCPX and Davinci Resolve.
They all do an HLG to Rec709 gamma conversion internally.
Dennis Schmitz when you say internally, does that mean that you don’t need to actually apply a lut?
@@ChristopherOdd The conversion to rec709 is a LUT, just one that is included in the software (you can also convert it to Rec709 directly onto the timeline before you even get to the color grading, using Davinci color management. Not sure about other programs... Actually that's probably what he meant "internally").
LUTs that, for example, you buy from creators on youtube usually bypass the conversion to Rec709 for a more "cinematic" or creative look. The whole point of Rec709 is to have standard, realistic looking colors, and you can skip that and apply a custom LUT if you're going for a very different look.
I think that C-Log in your video is the best Log profile. :-)
Yooo Thank you for this video 🔋
Thanks a lot i just buy the a7iii and i was on ciné4 so i will try hlg !
Man!! thanks a lot! was really helpful! best regards from LA!
What settings should i go with for hlg?
Great video! What is your hlg profile settings?
HLG2 - Color Mode 709
I’m looking to get a new camera and I don’t know whether I should buy the A6300 or the A7II (not the mark3). I shoot 50% Video and 50% Photo and now I’ve got a Full Frane Canon. Should I leave Full Frame for more features or not?
Do you also use HLG for lowlight videos? Or CINE4 for that?
Thank you
Thank you so much for your help !
Great video
THANKS!! Great video and so informative in such a short space of time. Do you adjust the HLG2 settings at all.before you shoot or leave as is? Do you adjust the sharpness/detail?. Cheers
I use the cine4 profile but I want to try slog2
Slog 2 is best for cinematic video
Are you still using LUTS with the HLG profile?
I like HLG but man, it messes with FCPX proxies and pro-res transcodes. CINE4 for the win. I quit log last year myself.
Great video!
Very useful, thanks
will try this HLG profile, how should i colour correct and grade HLG footage?
i like the colours as natural as possible & just add in a little punch on a few colours, can you do a video or direct me to a colour correction/grading tutorial for this HLG,
i am a little confused about the rec 709 LUT that people add in post, where do i get that LUT from, i have a few rec709 lots that i downloaded but they make the footage look totally different instead :-(
PLEASE HELP.
THANK YOU
Awesome video! How do you determine correct exposure of a scene?
Do you recommend the Canon EOS R over the Sony?
Also, it seems that EF and PL lenses are the best investments - would you say that’s true and part of the reason why you moved over to the EOS R?
I'm using a Sony a6400 for film making, but my next pick up is a EOS R. I'm more of a hybrid shooter, & also miss those Canon Colors.
@@blackentrepreneur244 nice - thank you for the reply! :)
Thank you for your Info on This!!
This typical setting isn't on the A7rii right? I can't find it on mine. Lol
This is only available on a7iii and a7riii
You may want to drop the responsiveness of your AF when shooting your sitting down talking shots. The constant focus breathing was distracting for me - You can see it if you look at the iMac and window on the left of your frame
3:01 great color grade! could you share the lut? thanks a lot!
that was really helpful!!
HLG1 on my A7R3
Yada yada 🤘🏻
Thanks man !
What is the best picture profile for low light/night at 120fps???
Hey man, love your content. Do you have a download pack on your site for your outdo for your youtube vids? It's dope! Would love to purchase one.
HLG is getting a lot of fans, finally... I started right away with that profile, but the HLG 3 though... Can you share your thoughts of 3 vs. 2, would be awesome.... Still trying to figure out 3 so I haven't even tested 2 yet. Peace
I’ve only used 2
@@YCImaging thx man... So does it behave in low light / shadows, noisewise? Still trying to figure out how to damn expose and grade right and get rid of noise... I might have become obsessed and fixated with it, but I don't seem to find satisfying results...
Anyways, a silent fan here, commenting rarely! Thanks for your awesome work I follow quite a bit, you rock!
HLG3 has the same dynamic range but uses to full codec range up to 109 IRE which makes it less prone to banding.
@@DennisSchmitz thnx a lot Dennis... I saw somewhere that somehow HLG3 had a bit more trouble dealing with noise in low-light and shadow areas compared to HLG2, which wouldn't make much sense if they both have the same dynamic range if I'm correct?
@@serag6308 hlg1 has the least noise, least dynamic range. hlg3 has the most noise (at higher ISO's), most dynamic range. hlg2 is in the middle. look at sony's official guide, it's pretty straightforward.
thank you! 🙌
Hi YC hey when you shoot your awesome A7iiio Videos . DO you shoot it in super35 4k or Full frame 4k ??????
PP1 Keeps Me straight most of the time
great video!!! thx
there are no downsides to shooting with gamma assist right? like it doesnt limit the camera in any way?
were this video shoot in hlg pp?
BT.2020 or REC.709?
How to focus in hlg
I've actually filmed with PP turned off and managed to get OK results. I've changed the PP10 into HLG2 - 709 color mode, but is there more to do with the other settings in this profile? I've seen people turning the saturation -5 and setting Blacks +2 for example. I just reseted the PP10 and changed into HLG2 - 709 for the moment..
what gimbal were you useing for the music video shots? Thanks!
Can these setting be also for the Sony A7ii ?
thank you for uploading this, we have similar issues lol
how did u manage music video shoots with the a6300? - the battery life/ overheating seems to be a big problem
standard -2 contrast, -2 saturation, -3 sharpness
What you think about HLG in low light situations?
What LUT or color grading are you using on the HLG in the video, please share man i've been lookin for that for a long time :D
any setting for someone who dont know color grading ? dont want post edting ?
What profile did you shoot with in low light? S-Log?
Can you use the ronin sc with this set up ? (a7iii with 24 mm 1.4 art)
Good morning fam💯💯🤘🏾
what exactly are your HLG2 settings? thanks man
So I thought HLG was PP10?
Are you shoot in ManuelFocus or AutoFocus with A7iii and Gh5?
Pls I need urgent advice on how to compress my small file size
Hi, what do you mean with expose right on the zero the zebras ? put the zebra on +105 and check on the picture that you see no zebras anymore ? Right ? and the other setups in HLG 2 the detail etc...because I am a bit lost in all this setting! :) Many thanks!
I believe he's meaning 0.0 on the E.V meter. So get it as dead on 0 as possible and you will get the best results.
Fam.. What pp number is this located at ? Im in pp10 hlg but no one really talks about what pp number they are going into