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@@geraldundone you have the best explanation video but I have rewatched it 10 times over and I feel like for my 11th time I will just need to rewatch with a dictionary (or google) on hand ready to search every term you use. Dunna though yours is great for someone with the technical knowledge I have in terms of camera tech so thank you!
Maaan.. about 947 previous RUclips videos have lost me to this subject before this one. They all expertly explain what picture profiles ARE and what they look like (which is.... I mean.. why? I can see what they look like.. thx tho..) but none of them bothered to explain the WHY and certainly not the REASONS to use them. Great video! Simple, but it explained more in a few mins, than the previous ones in hours and hours of digging. Subscribed. Thanks, Attila
I think color correction is always necessary. Color grading however is something you do exclusively for yourself and your tech-nerd friends. The client almost never appreciates the difference between standard or graded footage. So I have given up on grading and spend that time on script development instead.
I settled with HLG2 BT2020 gamma Details -7 and Stauration -7. Image does not need much of tweaking/grading at all. Saturation = 0 is also good. Camera A7C. If I need to do any color grading, I export result from Davinci Resolve in Main10 4:2:0 HVEC MP4 file and it looks great!
Bro God bless you. You have the heart of a teacher and a true ability to simplify complicated information in a way that's easy to digest. You didn't win a Jimmy John's giveaway, but you still earned a sub.
You are very sincere and i appreciate your honesty. I agree, sometimes we just don't have time on post to color grade and use no picture profile on a controlled ambient is the best shot. Thank you.
I WATCHED MANY VIDEOS BUT YOU FINALLY SAVE MY LIFE. sometimes it's best to just keep it simple and shoot "standart". But I will keep working on especially for slog and hlg and gain experience on this subject.
Your format is so good man. Not only are all the shots really crisp, nicely colored, and have super high quality audio- but the way you have a table of contents style approach to your videos, where you can just simply click on the specific portion that you want is just 👌
I've been shooting a bunch of corporate indoor shoots on a flat background in LOG just to practice color grading, and because I got the idea that shooting in the standard profile was just unacceptable for a professional to do, like shooting stills with the camera on Auto. But now that I understand the profiles and do know how to grade, I think I'm gonna stick with the standard profile most of the time. Great video, very informative. Thanks!
thanks man, really great vid - made everything very clear. All the other videos I've watched are along the lines of "Why you should shoot Log". I'm a time-poor hobbyist, so being told I need to spend hours colour-grading every clip didn't feel like the solution for me. Think after watching this I'll save those PPs for when really needed!
Would really like to see that window shot with both standard profile and corrcted/graded slog2 profile. That would really show whether the slog is worth it or not.
Your teaching skills are just fantastic👌I watched so many videos trying to figure out what PP are, what they do and the difference between them and was never able to understand it fully until I watched this video. Thank you! 🙂
Good stuff! Too often people say to use a picture profile because that's what everyone else says to do without explaining why and how it differs from the standard profile.
Here’s a better example, shooting in a picture profile is like taking a RAW photo. You get much more control when editing. If you don’t like editing, go ahead and just take JPEG photos. Don’t forget to turn on Auto too.
Im so thankful about the part when you started comparing it with coffee haha it’s my passion and that got me to finally understand all the PP topic! Thanks bud!🙏🏼
dude this was so helpful. I bought a new camera today, tried to be all fancy and shoot in S Log 3.. annnnnd it's all trash and I need to reshoot all of it! Thanks for explaining this so even dumb dumbs like me understand!
1) whats the best setting (ok i know subjective) for post processing? 2) whats the best setting (ok i know subjective) for NON post processing (all contrasty and colory)?
What about shooting stills with picture profiles like S log 2 can I stretch that as much as the Raw file? And witch profile do you recoment Is easy to grade from Sony A7 II I think it has Cine profile also and S-log 2
Hi, can I use picture profile settings for video vlogs?! I don’t record in manual since I do vlogs. So I will like to know if I can still use picture profile? Thank you
This video is so informative 😊😊😊 thank you so much for your time, I have a Sony A6600 & I would like to know How can I shoot LOG? Cause Sony Colors are out of Whack sometimes 😅
This was an incredible way of teaching the subject. I know very little of this, but your visuals and explanation helped tremendously. I highly recommend you do a more in depth "under the hood" video.
@@dunnadidit i found this info on the youtube Chanel of Gerald Undone but not sure anymore but somewere on the net :-) I think it was better if you grade with the APP Filmconvert . Yes if you use it with with filmconvert better to put on REC709 ...What do you think?
I need to do a bit more research but my understanding is that bt2020 has a bit wider color options so I felt like I was getting a bit more out of it but I don’t know that it really makes a huge difference. Mostly I use it because I use specific correction luts designed to use the bt2020 option.
@@malfurion7860 that’s weird, any time I’ve done it, it looks like the photos will have the profile applied, but then as soon as I open the photo, it reverts back to the raw file.
Just a got a sony a6400 ya its confusing you have to go to page 11 under the first menu why its burried in menus and not on the function button with iso whitbalnce exposure and other things . Then pick from whats labeled pp1 through pp8 then go to a submenu from there and pick from settings that lead to another submenu. I definitely had to hunt for these options it really should of been on the front page of the first menu with the framrate options .
@@dunnadidit so if I set PictureThis profilo and then shoot jpeg Inwill benefit from the ore-edited PictureThis? Usually I shoot xfine jpeg to salve time in pp
As I said in the video, each option has some different strengths and are useful in different situations. I would say HLG is probably the most versatile though.
I have a sony a6400 with 16 mm 1.4... the problem I am facing is.. its showing the skin too sharp and I can see any spot on my face and the skin tone is not good.. I used to have a nikon d7100 with 35mm 1.8 and in same settings the face used to look really good... can you please guide me where I am going wrong. thank you
Hey man thanks so much for posting this video. I didn't know that when I was playing around with my Sony ZVE10 setting it to PP7 (SLog3) when i switched to taking photos, it would apply the SLOG to the photos as well. I am trying to figure out a way to "stretch" the colors as you say but I can't find how to do this in Lightroom. Would you be able to help point me in the right direction? A bunch of my photos are all gray and I can't properly fix them. Thank you in advance!
You got it! Take your curves, grab the very top point and drag it to the left across the top, then take the very bottom point and drag it right along the bottom. Then add a little s-curve between the two for contrast. Then crank up the saturation a bit and you should be at a decent starting place.
I shot a ton of my first RUclips videos on the a6000. More important than the picture profiles, it was annoying that there was no microphone input. I wouldn’t stress to much about picture profiles to start with
Great ! Have question: So if I use No Profile - what ISO do I use ? The lower ISO the better ? Or do I stick to the two camera's base ISO's ? Thank you !
I feel like I’ve gotten that out of other people’s recommendations regarding log as well. Honestly I just avoid video work because I haven’t learned about how to set it up and my weak laptop can’t handle the editing.
It’s kind of achieving something similar. The difference there is that jpg has far less pace in the file to keep all the information than raw does. In this case there is the same amount of space to fit the info, but you’re just trying to make sure you’re not losing the info in the firT place. There is raw video where it is just a far larger container to hold info as well. So shooting in a flatter profile is like “faking” raw in a jpg file kind of lol. Did any of that make sense?
Dunna Did It - Basically log is like fitting a raw file into the space of a jpg file on a card, not exactly like a raw file, but a squished raw file with all the data that you have to ‘unpack’...?
Yeah that’s more similar, the info that you would lose to clipping when shooting jpg gets squished into the space available. So when you stretch it back out, it gets “thin” but as long as you don’t have to push too far, you should be okay!
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Looking for more information on picture profiles? Check out this awesome video:
Gerald Undone Picture Profile & Dynamic Range Guide: ruclips.net/video/D2iqEDUe1qg/видео.html
Thanks for sharing my stuff, you sexy beast. 😜🙏
@Gerald Undone - Thanks for digging into the deep stuff you beautiful giant 😘
Always interesting, no useless blablabla, : to the point, instructive, clear and easily understandable, I love your content.
@@geraldundone you have the best explanation video but I have rewatched it 10 times over and I feel like for my 11th time I will just need to rewatch with a dictionary (or google) on hand ready to search every term you use. Dunna though yours is great for someone with the technical knowledge I have in terms of camera tech so thank you!
What monitor you recommend for Video editing.?? Thanks!!
Maaan.. about 947 previous RUclips videos have lost me to this subject before this one. They all expertly explain what picture profiles ARE and what they look like (which is.... I mean.. why? I can see what they look like.. thx tho..) but none of them bothered to explain the WHY and certainly not the REASONS to use them. Great video! Simple, but it explained more in a few mins, than the previous ones in hours and hours of digging. Subscribed.
Thanks,
Attila
I think color correction is always necessary. Color grading however is something you do exclusively for yourself and your tech-nerd friends. The client almost never appreciates the difference between standard or graded footage. So I have given up on grading and spend that time on script development instead.
I settled with HLG2 BT2020 gamma Details -7 and Stauration -7. Image does not need much of tweaking/grading at all. Saturation = 0 is also good. Camera A7C. If I need to do any color grading, I export result from Davinci Resolve in Main10 4:2:0 HVEC MP4 file and it looks great!
Absolutely the best description I’ve watched on this topic, thank you! Cheers
Glad to hear it!!
Not only the best, I'd say the one we needed. Finally I can decide wgen to use the S-log which might be....never!
I agree!
I agree!
Bro God bless you. You have the heart of a teacher and a true ability to simplify complicated information in a way that's easy to digest. You didn't win a Jimmy John's giveaway, but you still earned a sub.
You are very sincere and i appreciate your honesty. I agree, sometimes we just don't have time on post to color grade and use no picture profile on a controlled ambient is the best shot. Thank you.
I WATCHED MANY VIDEOS BUT YOU FINALLY SAVE MY LIFE. sometimes it's best to just keep it simple and shoot "standart". But I will keep working on especially for slog and hlg and gain experience on this subject.
Subscribed. Because you’re the first RUclipsr who finally used easy human terms to explain S LOG & Dynamic Range
Your format is so good man. Not only are all the shots really crisp, nicely colored, and have super high quality audio- but the way you have a table of contents style approach to your videos, where you can just simply click on the specific portion that you want is just 👌
I really appreciate that Michael! Thanks for letting me know!
I've been shooting a bunch of corporate indoor shoots on a flat background in LOG just to practice color grading, and because I got the idea that shooting in the standard profile was just unacceptable for a professional to do, like shooting stills with the camera on Auto. But now that I understand the profiles and do know how to grade, I think I'm gonna stick with the standard profile most of the time. Great video, very informative. Thanks!
I’ve been shooting standard more often lately too! It’s quite handy when you need it!
Hi there. When you say standard, do you mean no Picture Profile? I have just switched to Sony and there are so many Profiles! :)
thanks man, really great vid - made everything very clear. All the other videos I've watched are along the lines of "Why you should shoot Log". I'm a time-poor hobbyist, so being told I need to spend hours colour-grading every clip didn't feel like the solution for me. Think after watching this I'll save those PPs for when really needed!
Would really like to see that window shot with both standard profile and corrcted/graded slog2 profile. That would really show whether the slog is worth it or not.
Your teaching skills are just fantastic👌I watched so many videos trying to figure out what PP are, what they do and the difference between them and was never able to understand it fully until I watched this video. Thank you! 🙂
Thanks so much!
Good stuff! Too often people say to use a picture profile because that's what everyone else says to do without explaining why and how it differs from the standard profile.
Thanks so much!
Did you use PP8 or 7
Best explanation about picture profiles that I’ve seen.
Thank you!!
That was so informative and so easy to understand, thank you!!!!
one of the best videos on log setting. Bravo. Tricky subject.
you have no idea how much you helped me. Thank you!!
You are so welcome!
Thank you Dunna for this video! I think the HLG3 is the best option.
Nice!
Excellent! The BEST (edit) PP explanation I've seen so far. and I mean it.
Thank you!!
For me it’s a no brainer to use log, I hate blowing out highlights and it gives it more of a film look after grading.
Boom!
Here’s a better example, shooting in a picture profile is like taking a RAW photo. You get much more control when editing. If you don’t like editing, go ahead and just take JPEG photos. Don’t forget to turn on Auto too.
Great explanation! Helps me decide between the A6300 and A6100. A6300 it is :)
This is what I was looking for. 👌
Subscribed
Dunna, Always super useful. Thanks for the video
Thanks so much!
When Did You Switch to Davinci Resolve And Could you make a video on the issues faced while Switching from Premier to Resolve
I’ve been trying it out for a month or two now. Not sure if I’ve “switched” yet but I do like it a decent amount. Definitely planning to make a video.
Dunna Did It yeah, I’d love a video on what programs you recommend... especially on a budget!
Impossible to be more clear than this. The best video about picture profile
Thank you so much!!
Im so thankful about the part when you started comparing it with coffee haha it’s my passion and that got me to finally understand all the PP topic! Thanks bud!🙏🏼
I'm glad I could help!
I really appreciate the great efforts you're doing, and thank you so much for the good work !
Thanks for watching!
dude this was so helpful. I bought a new camera today, tried to be all fancy and shoot in S Log 3.. annnnnd it's all trash and I need to reshoot all of it! Thanks for explaining this so even dumb dumbs like me understand!
Amazing video mate!
Thanks dude!
1) whats the best setting (ok i know subjective) for post processing?
2) whats the best setting (ok i know subjective) for NON post processing (all contrasty and colory)?
What about shooting stills with picture profiles like S log 2 can I stretch that as much as the Raw file? And witch profile do you recoment Is easy to grade from Sony A7 II I think it has Cine profile also and S-log 2
Shooting raw for stills is better. More information. And picture profiles only burn into jpg’s for a7ii id go with cine2 for video
@@dunnadidit thanks I will try Cine2, S-log 2 feels a bit demanding. 👍
Very well explained Dunna!!
Thank you!
This is awesome - will use HLG-3, love how you demonstrated it looks after production
Brilliant teacher you are man, thanks!
Glad you think so! Thanks a ton!
Hi, can I use picture profile settings for video vlogs?! I don’t record in manual since I do vlogs. So I will like to know if I can still use picture profile? Thank you
Yeah you can, you just need to know how you need to expose different picture profiles and set your auto modes accordingly.
Very nice explanation my brotha!
Cool information! Thanks for sharing this video. God bless you! 👍🏼😊🔥
Thanks! But can you go over your detailed settings for each picture profile on the A7 III?
Just what I needed to begin understanding this complicated topic! Thank you
Thanks for the kind words!! I’m glad it was helpful!
This video is so informative 😊😊😊 thank you so much for your time, I have a Sony A6600 & I would like to know How can I shoot LOG? Cause Sony Colors are out of Whack sometimes 😅
That coffee analogy though
Haha glad you like that.
Caffeine junkie FTW!!!! That's me too!!! Awesome video bro!!!!!!
Hahaha 😂 I figured some people would be able to connect with that.
@@dunnadidit Aeropress or pour over with some fresh ground beans is my shit!!! Hahaha
Dude, thank you. Great job.
Thanks! Really needed this video!!
Glad it was helpful!
@@dunnadidit Maybe follow up with your actual camera settings for each profile?
Ie black, saturation etc at this level.
And keep up the good work
All the stock settings. The only thing I change is putting detail to -7
@@dunnadidit Final question. Whats the reason for the -7?
Well 'Detail' in general
I like to just choose one at random and surprise myself in post :) (this is especially fun for multi-shot videos!)
Hahahaha I love this.
This was an incredible way of teaching the subject. I know very little of this, but your visuals and explanation helped tremendously. I highly recommend you do a more in depth "under the hood" video.
Thanks so much! I’ll definitely consider it!
Well done dude!
Great video Dunna! I sent a suggestion in your suggestion box! Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much! This was actually the first video inspired by comments in the suggestion box so I’m excited to do more!
@@dunnadidit Looking forward to it!
Slog on Sony ZV-1 require high ISO. I can't reduce it to less than 1000.
That’s called base iso. Different cameras and different picture profiles have different settings for that
I love color grading. I have a signature look so I always shoot raw or log video.
Nice
Great stuff, thank you, just what i was looking for.
Great vid, thanks!
Perfectly explained! Well done! Thank you very much
Thanks a ton!
Great video very helpful!
I learn a lot from you Dunna. thanks
Great to hear!!
Which would you recommend for night time on a A7iii
does anyone have picture profile recommendations for real estate videography?
U MADE IT SO EASY TO UNDERSTAND!
Happy to help!
Dunna "Does it" all the time! thx man!
Thanks for watching!
This was fantastic, just the explanation I needed!
I have the new Sony a7siii what profile do you suggest. I am fairly good at grading just fyi.
SLOG3 as long as you’re shooting in a 10 bit mode! I’m grading some 10 bit SLOG3 shot in xavc s right now and it’s awesome!
Just be careful because the clipping point is lower in SLOG3
So...I may want to consider a camera that is 10 bit if I record I log?
It certainly helps! Especially really flat log profiles like SLOG3
Big fan bro always i learn many thing from your videos thanks 🙏
Thanks for the great video! Now I understand the profiles!! :-)
Great to hear! Thanks for watching?
I actually struggle with both Cine and SLOG profiles. For me HLG2 was most easiest and that I use for my RUclips stuff.
Thats awesome! I'm glad you played around with it and found what worked best for you!
Dunna! Good one.
I use only HLG2 / Rec 709 and I am very happy with the result! :-)
Nice! I’ve played back and forth between bt2020 and rec709. What made you go rec709?
@@dunnadidit i found this info on the youtube Chanel of Gerald Undone but not sure anymore but somewere on the net :-) I think it was better if you grade with the APP Filmconvert . Yes if you use it with with filmconvert better to put on REC709 ...What do you think?
I need to do a bit more research but my understanding is that bt2020 has a bit wider color options so I felt like I was getting a bit more out of it but I don’t know that it really makes a huge difference. Mostly I use it because I use specific correction luts designed to use the bt2020 option.
hey ,do you have a video about color grading or can you make one . I really want to color grade but i don't know anything . Thanks
i use resolve btw
I don’t have anything for da Vinci resolve yet. But I’m definitely planning some!
Love the analogy - love coffee - nice work brother!
well, if I use slog-2 and any other profiles to take pictures, how should I restore the color at later?
If you’re shootings raw photos, the picture profiles don’t affect the photos. Only in jpeg and movie mode.
Dunna Did It i’m afraid not. I tried it in Lightroom just now and found that different profiles will change the pictures
@@malfurion7860 that’s weird, any time I’ve done it, it looks like the photos will have the profile applied, but then as soon as I open the photo, it reverts back to the raw file.
I was waiting for this
The wait is OVER!
Great info. Thank you!
Great explanation - I thought I was taking care of things by bracketing at multiple exposures
Just a got a sony a6400 ya its confusing you have to go to page 11 under the first menu why its burried in menus and not on the function button with iso whitbalnce exposure and other things . Then pick from whats labeled pp1 through pp8 then go to a submenu from there and pick from settings that lead to another submenu. I definitely had to hunt for these options it really should of been on the front page of the first menu with the framrate options .
Great video, love how you explained the why 🙌😃
It’s only for video?! Can’t use also shooting pictures?
If you’re shooting jpeg you could, but you’ll actually get more information and dynamic range if you just shoot raw
@@dunnadidit so if I set PictureThis profilo and then shoot jpeg Inwill benefit from the ore-edited PictureThis? Usually I shoot xfine jpeg to salve time in pp
okay but now can you explain coffee profiles please
Haha you might need to turn to James Hoffman for that
So picture profile for videos is same as RAW profile for pictures ?
It’s kind of like… halfway to raw. Still not as powerful, but more flexible for sure
This will help a lot of people!
Thanks so much!
So which is the best option in all kinds of situations? HLG???
As I said in the video, each option has some different strengths and are useful in different situations. I would say HLG is probably the most versatile though.
Do you reduce your camera sharpness in standard profile when recording talking head videos?
Which app u use for video editing ?? I see it in ur background
Davinci resolve
@@dunnadidit ah ok thank you
So helpful video, thank you so much!!! 🌷🌷🌷
Excelente Dunna Thanks a lot
I have a sony a6400 with 16 mm 1.4... the problem I am facing is.. its showing the skin too sharp and I can see any spot on my face and the skin tone is not good.. I used to have a nikon d7100 with 35mm 1.8 and in same settings the face used to look really good... can you please guide me where I am going wrong. thank you
From Neaples, where the coffee is a cult...i loved your analogy...:)...Looking for my best run&gun setting on new sony a 7s3...:) Ciao!
With the 7s3 I’ve been shooting almost all SLOG3 and loving it.
Hey man thanks so much for posting this video. I didn't know that when I was playing around with my Sony ZVE10 setting it to PP7 (SLog3) when i switched to taking photos, it would apply the SLOG to the photos as well. I am trying to figure out a way to "stretch" the colors as you say but I can't find how to do this in Lightroom. Would you be able to help point me in the right direction? A bunch of my photos are all gray and I can't properly fix them. Thank you in advance!
You got it! Take your curves, grab the very top point and drag it to the left across the top, then take the very bottom point and drag it right along the bottom. Then add a little s-curve between the two for contrast. Then crank up the saturation a bit and you should be at a decent starting place.
Really helpful video! Thank you so much brother 🙏🙏🙏
Cheers!
Very good explained! Thanks a lot🎥🎛🎚🎤
Thanks for watching!
Nice thumbnail.
Edit:
Nice thumbnail too!
Peter McKinnon will love your coffee analogy
Haha I’m glad I got the approval on both thumbnails lol
@@dunnadidit just to be clear. Second one is ever so slightly better than the first one
Im stealing the coffee analogy tyvm.
Lol 😂
Love it!
Thanks!
I wanted to buy a6000/a6100. Do you think I should pick something else cuz it doesnt have picture profiles? btw I wanna buy one for filming YT videos
I shot a ton of my first RUclips videos on the a6000. More important than the picture profiles, it was annoying that there was no microphone input. I wouldn’t stress to much about picture profiles to start with
@@dunnadidit thanks
Cheers!
Best information so far 😉
Great ! Have question: So if I use No Profile - what ISO do I use ? The lower ISO the better ? Or do I stick to the two camera's base ISO's ? Thank you !
So log (or a picture profile) is like raw and standard is like jpg essentially...or am I way off here?
I feel like I’ve gotten that out of other people’s recommendations regarding log as well. Honestly I just avoid video work because I haven’t learned about how to set it up and my weak laptop can’t handle the editing.
It’s kind of achieving something similar. The difference there is that jpg has far less pace in the file to keep all the information than raw does. In this case there is the same amount of space to fit the info, but you’re just trying to make sure you’re not losing the info in the firT place. There is raw video where it is just a far larger container to hold info as well. So shooting in a flatter profile is like “faking” raw in a jpg file kind of lol. Did any of that make sense?
Dunna Did It - Basically log is like fitting a raw file into the space of a jpg file on a card, not exactly like a raw file, but a squished raw file with all the data that you have to ‘unpack’...?
Yeah that’s more similar, the info that you would lose to clipping when shooting jpg gets squished into the space available. So when you stretch it back out, it gets “thin” but as long as you don’t have to push too far, you should be okay!
Dunna Did It - thanks for the replies dude. 👌🏻