Looking for more information on picture profiles? Check out this awesome video: Gerald Undone Picture Profile & Dynamic Range Guide: ruclips.net/video/D2iqEDUe1qg/видео.html
@@geraldundone you have the best explanation video but I have rewatched it 10 times over and I feel like for my 11th time I will just need to rewatch with a dictionary (or google) on hand ready to search every term you use. Dunna though yours is great for someone with the technical knowledge I have in terms of camera tech so thank you!
I think color correction is always necessary. Color grading however is something you do exclusively for yourself and your tech-nerd friends. The client almost never appreciates the difference between standard or graded footage. So I have given up on grading and spend that time on script development instead.
Maaan.. about 947 previous RUclips videos have lost me to this subject before this one. They all expertly explain what picture profiles ARE and what they look like (which is.... I mean.. why? I can see what they look like.. thx tho..) but none of them bothered to explain the WHY and certainly not the REASONS to use them. Great video! Simple, but it explained more in a few mins, than the previous ones in hours and hours of digging. Subscribed. Thanks, Attila
I settled with HLG2 BT2020 gamma Details -7 and Stauration -7. Image does not need much of tweaking/grading at all. Saturation = 0 is also good. Camera A7C. If I need to do any color grading, I export result from Davinci Resolve in Main10 4:2:0 HVEC MP4 file and it looks great!
Your format is so good man. Not only are all the shots really crisp, nicely colored, and have super high quality audio- but the way you have a table of contents style approach to your videos, where you can just simply click on the specific portion that you want is just 👌
Bro God bless you. You have the heart of a teacher and a true ability to simplify complicated information in a way that's easy to digest. You didn't win a Jimmy John's giveaway, but you still earned a sub.
Your teaching skills are just fantastic👌I watched so many videos trying to figure out what PP are, what they do and the difference between them and was never able to understand it fully until I watched this video. Thank you! 🙂
Good stuff! Too often people say to use a picture profile because that's what everyone else says to do without explaining why and how it differs from the standard profile.
You are very sincere and i appreciate your honesty. I agree, sometimes we just don't have time on post to color grade and use no picture profile on a controlled ambient is the best shot. Thank you.
I WATCHED MANY VIDEOS BUT YOU FINALLY SAVE MY LIFE. sometimes it's best to just keep it simple and shoot "standart". But I will keep working on especially for slog and hlg and gain experience on this subject.
I've been shooting a bunch of corporate indoor shoots on a flat background in LOG just to practice color grading, and because I got the idea that shooting in the standard profile was just unacceptable for a professional to do, like shooting stills with the camera on Auto. But now that I understand the profiles and do know how to grade, I think I'm gonna stick with the standard profile most of the time. Great video, very informative. Thanks!
Would really like to see that window shot with both standard profile and corrcted/graded slog2 profile. That would really show whether the slog is worth it or not.
thanks man, really great vid - made everything very clear. All the other videos I've watched are along the lines of "Why you should shoot Log". I'm a time-poor hobbyist, so being told I need to spend hours colour-grading every clip didn't feel like the solution for me. Think after watching this I'll save those PPs for when really needed!
Im so thankful about the part when you started comparing it with coffee haha it’s my passion and that got me to finally understand all the PP topic! Thanks bud!🙏🏼
dude this was so helpful. I bought a new camera today, tried to be all fancy and shoot in S Log 3.. annnnnd it's all trash and I need to reshoot all of it! Thanks for explaining this so even dumb dumbs like me understand!
This was an incredible way of teaching the subject. I know very little of this, but your visuals and explanation helped tremendously. I highly recommend you do a more in depth "under the hood" video.
Here’s a better example, shooting in a picture profile is like taking a RAW photo. You get much more control when editing. If you don’t like editing, go ahead and just take JPEG photos. Don’t forget to turn on Auto too.
This video is so informative 😊😊😊 thank you so much for your time, I have a Sony A6600 & I would like to know How can I shoot LOG? Cause Sony Colors are out of Whack sometimes 😅
1) whats the best setting (ok i know subjective) for post processing? 2) whats the best setting (ok i know subjective) for NON post processing (all contrasty and colory)?
@@dunnadidit i found this info on the youtube Chanel of Gerald Undone but not sure anymore but somewere on the net :-) I think it was better if you grade with the APP Filmconvert . Yes if you use it with with filmconvert better to put on REC709 ...What do you think?
I need to do a bit more research but my understanding is that bt2020 has a bit wider color options so I felt like I was getting a bit more out of it but I don’t know that it really makes a huge difference. Mostly I use it because I use specific correction luts designed to use the bt2020 option.
Oh wow i didnt know there were profiles out there that were better then the internal log profiles. I just assumed the internal log was the all around better option. Thanks for the info time ro go test profiles now 😂
Haha all the profiles I used are internal profiles. But it’s not so much about better or worse... it’s about better or worse FOR THE SITUATION. But I do suggest going and testing them all out to see what you like best!
What about shooting stills with picture profiles like S log 2 can I stretch that as much as the Raw file? And witch profile do you recoment Is easy to grade from Sony A7 II I think it has Cine profile also and S-log 2
Great ! Have question: So if I use No Profile - what ISO do I use ? The lower ISO the better ? Or do I stick to the two camera's base ISO's ? Thank you !
Thank you so much for this info! Do you have a recommended profile for doing a recap video for a concert? I mostly go to edm shows with crazy stage light production.
I edit a lot on the go for work and sadly need a quick fix to push content out. Would you recommend HLG3 even through capcut (disclaimer I use Davinci on large projects or when I have time)
awesome ...i am from ethiopia...i love the way you tell us about pp.......even if 8 bit in sony a7 iii is not enough to play with s log 2 footage I am a fun of s log 2.but the footage I got from standard picture profile is bad but the footage you got from the standard profile is very nice ...what is you the reason behind the footage?
SLOG2 is still useable for sure, I find you just have to really NAIL the exposure right on in camera. If you don’t get that, that’s when it starts to fall apart for me. The reason my standard profile looks nice on the shot with the plants is because there isn’t a lot of dynamic range in that shot. It’s not clipping the whites or the blacks. All the information in the scene fits inside the range that the picture allows.
Hi, can I use picture profile settings for video vlogs?! I don’t record in manual since I do vlogs. So I will like to know if I can still use picture profile? Thank you
Hi. Thanks for the video I really enjoy watching them. Quick question though. I'm not sure if my camera is the problem but I have the ZV-e10 and whenever I change the picture profiles, the colors of the pictures that I have previously taken also change. Is this normal? or is it a setting problem? Help please :((
Hey man, nice video and thank you. Currently playing around with the Sony picture profiles and as you said there are a bunch of other things under the hood! I'm using Cine4 and Pro mode but notice there are a ton of other settings, too. Do you tend to leave everything else as is or are there other things you do to obtain a more 'flat' image while filming. Thanks bud
@@dunnadidit Thanks for the reply that's awesome to know. I guess we all play around too much in the beginning! Currently filming on a Sony a7ii using Sigma f.14 16mm lense. The camera films maximum 1080p and since the lense is crop sensor once the image is full size it's probably less than 1080. Struggling with slight grainy footage but have done all I can do, low ISO, good lighting etc. I wonder if the 'grain' is really just the relatively low video pixel quality?
Looking for more information on picture profiles? Check out this awesome video:
Gerald Undone Picture Profile & Dynamic Range Guide: ruclips.net/video/D2iqEDUe1qg/видео.html
Thanks for sharing my stuff, you sexy beast. 😜🙏
@Gerald Undone - Thanks for digging into the deep stuff you beautiful giant 😘
Always interesting, no useless blablabla, : to the point, instructive, clear and easily understandable, I love your content.
@@geraldundone you have the best explanation video but I have rewatched it 10 times over and I feel like for my 11th time I will just need to rewatch with a dictionary (or google) on hand ready to search every term you use. Dunna though yours is great for someone with the technical knowledge I have in terms of camera tech so thank you!
What monitor you recommend for Video editing.?? Thanks!!
I think color correction is always necessary. Color grading however is something you do exclusively for yourself and your tech-nerd friends. The client almost never appreciates the difference between standard or graded footage. So I have given up on grading and spend that time on script development instead.
Maaan.. about 947 previous RUclips videos have lost me to this subject before this one. They all expertly explain what picture profiles ARE and what they look like (which is.... I mean.. why? I can see what they look like.. thx tho..) but none of them bothered to explain the WHY and certainly not the REASONS to use them. Great video! Simple, but it explained more in a few mins, than the previous ones in hours and hours of digging. Subscribed.
Thanks,
Attila
I settled with HLG2 BT2020 gamma Details -7 and Stauration -7. Image does not need much of tweaking/grading at all. Saturation = 0 is also good. Camera A7C. If I need to do any color grading, I export result from Davinci Resolve in Main10 4:2:0 HVEC MP4 file and it looks great!
Your format is so good man. Not only are all the shots really crisp, nicely colored, and have super high quality audio- but the way you have a table of contents style approach to your videos, where you can just simply click on the specific portion that you want is just 👌
I really appreciate that Michael! Thanks for letting me know!
Absolutely the best description I’ve watched on this topic, thank you! Cheers
Glad to hear it!!
Not only the best, I'd say the one we needed. Finally I can decide wgen to use the S-log which might be....never!
I agree!
I agree!
Bro God bless you. You have the heart of a teacher and a true ability to simplify complicated information in a way that's easy to digest. You didn't win a Jimmy John's giveaway, but you still earned a sub.
Your teaching skills are just fantastic👌I watched so many videos trying to figure out what PP are, what they do and the difference between them and was never able to understand it fully until I watched this video. Thank you! 🙂
Thanks so much!
Subscribed. Because you’re the first RUclipsr who finally used easy human terms to explain S LOG & Dynamic Range
Good stuff! Too often people say to use a picture profile because that's what everyone else says to do without explaining why and how it differs from the standard profile.
Thanks so much!
You are very sincere and i appreciate your honesty. I agree, sometimes we just don't have time on post to color grade and use no picture profile on a controlled ambient is the best shot. Thank you.
I WATCHED MANY VIDEOS BUT YOU FINALLY SAVE MY LIFE. sometimes it's best to just keep it simple and shoot "standart". But I will keep working on especially for slog and hlg and gain experience on this subject.
I've been shooting a bunch of corporate indoor shoots on a flat background in LOG just to practice color grading, and because I got the idea that shooting in the standard profile was just unacceptable for a professional to do, like shooting stills with the camera on Auto. But now that I understand the profiles and do know how to grade, I think I'm gonna stick with the standard profile most of the time. Great video, very informative. Thanks!
I’ve been shooting standard more often lately too! It’s quite handy when you need it!
Hi there. When you say standard, do you mean no Picture Profile? I have just switched to Sony and there are so many Profiles! :)
Would really like to see that window shot with both standard profile and corrcted/graded slog2 profile. That would really show whether the slog is worth it or not.
thanks man, really great vid - made everything very clear. All the other videos I've watched are along the lines of "Why you should shoot Log". I'm a time-poor hobbyist, so being told I need to spend hours colour-grading every clip didn't feel like the solution for me. Think after watching this I'll save those PPs for when really needed!
Best explanation about picture profiles that I’ve seen.
Thank you!!
Impossible to be more clear than this. The best video about picture profile
Thank you so much!!
Im so thankful about the part when you started comparing it with coffee haha it’s my passion and that got me to finally understand all the PP topic! Thanks bud!🙏🏼
I'm glad I could help!
one of the best videos on log setting. Bravo. Tricky subject.
That coffee analogy though
Haha glad you like that.
For me it’s a no brainer to use log, I hate blowing out highlights and it gives it more of a film look after grading.
Boom!
Thanks! But can you go over your detailed settings for each picture profile on the A7 III?
dude this was so helpful. I bought a new camera today, tried to be all fancy and shoot in S Log 3.. annnnnd it's all trash and I need to reshoot all of it! Thanks for explaining this so even dumb dumbs like me understand!
This was an incredible way of teaching the subject. I know very little of this, but your visuals and explanation helped tremendously. I highly recommend you do a more in depth "under the hood" video.
Thanks so much! I’ll definitely consider it!
Cool information! Thanks for sharing this video. God bless you! 👍🏼😊🔥
Excellent! The BEST (edit) PP explanation I've seen so far. and I mean it.
Thank you!!
Great explanation! Helps me decide between the A6300 and A6100. A6300 it is :)
Thank you Dunna for this video! I think the HLG3 is the best option.
Nice!
I like to just choose one at random and surprise myself in post :) (this is especially fun for multi-shot videos!)
Hahahaha I love this.
you have no idea how much you helped me. Thank you!!
You are so welcome!
This is what I was looking for. 👌
Subscribed
The #1 reason I don't use a "log" profile is that I suck at color correcting.
Well there you go! The important thing is that you use what works best for you!
okay but now can you explain coffee profiles please
Haha you might need to turn to James Hoffman for that
This is awesome - will use HLG-3, love how you demonstrated it looks after production
That was so informative and so easy to understand, thank you!!!!
Just what I needed to begin understanding this complicated topic! Thank you
Thanks for the kind words!! I’m glad it was helpful!
Here’s a better example, shooting in a picture profile is like taking a RAW photo. You get much more control when editing. If you don’t like editing, go ahead and just take JPEG photos. Don’t forget to turn on Auto too.
Dunna, Always super useful. Thanks for the video
Thanks so much!
Well done dude!
This video is so informative 😊😊😊 thank you so much for your time, I have a Sony A6600 & I would like to know How can I shoot LOG? Cause Sony Colors are out of Whack sometimes 😅
Very well explained Dunna!!
Thank you!
Caffeine junkie FTW!!!! That's me too!!! Awesome video bro!!!!!!
Hahaha 😂 I figured some people would be able to connect with that.
@@dunnadidit Aeropress or pour over with some fresh ground beans is my shit!!! Hahaha
When Did You Switch to Davinci Resolve And Could you make a video on the issues faced while Switching from Premier to Resolve
I’ve been trying it out for a month or two now. Not sure if I’ve “switched” yet but I do like it a decent amount. Definitely planning to make a video.
Dunna Did It yeah, I’d love a video on what programs you recommend... especially on a budget!
Great vid, thanks!
U MADE IT SO EASY TO UNDERSTAND!
Happy to help!
Dunna "Does it" all the time! thx man!
Thanks for watching!
Nice thumbnail.
Edit:
Nice thumbnail too!
Peter McKinnon will love your coffee analogy
Haha I’m glad I got the approval on both thumbnails lol
@@dunnadidit just to be clear. Second one is ever so slightly better than the first one
Dunna! Good one.
Brilliant teacher you are man, thanks!
Glad you think so! Thanks a ton!
I really appreciate the great efforts you're doing, and thank you so much for the good work !
Thanks for watching!
Big fan bro always i learn many thing from your videos thanks 🙏
Im stealing the coffee analogy tyvm.
Lol 😂
Great explanation - I thought I was taking care of things by bracketing at multiple exposures
Dude, thank you. Great job.
I actually struggle with both Cine and SLOG profiles. For me HLG2 was most easiest and that I use for my RUclips stuff.
Thats awesome! I'm glad you played around with it and found what worked best for you!
Very good explained! Thanks a lot🎥🎛🎚🎤
Thanks for watching!
Best thumbnail ever
Very nice explanation my brotha!
Love the analogy - love coffee - nice work brother!
Perfectly explained! Well done! Thank you very much
Thanks a ton!
Amazing video mate!
Thanks dude!
I learn a lot from you Dunna. thanks
Great to hear!!
Great video, love how you explained the why 🙌😃
Thanks for the great video! Now I understand the profiles!! :-)
Great to hear! Thanks for watching?
Really helpful video! Thank you so much brother 🙏🙏🙏
Cheers!
Great video Dunna! I sent a suggestion in your suggestion box! Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much! This was actually the first video inspired by comments in the suggestion box so I’m excited to do more!
@@dunnadidit Looking forward to it!
So helpful video, thank you so much!!! 🌷🌷🌷
This will help a lot of people!
Thanks so much!
Great video very helpful!
Finally a legitimate excuse for epic coffee b-roll 👍
Haha, I didn't even go too crazy with it either, just a couple stock footage clips.
James Hoffman approves of your coffee analogy.
That man is my hero.
Right? So good. His reviews are elegantly savage. When he doesn't like something, he can't hide his pain points.
I love color grading. I have a signature look so I always shoot raw or log video.
Nice
1) whats the best setting (ok i know subjective) for post processing?
2) whats the best setting (ok i know subjective) for NON post processing (all contrasty and colory)?
Best information so far 😉
Excelente Dunna Thanks a lot
damn that coffee shots made me hungry for breakfast😂. Nice informative Video man
what should i use for car videography?
Great stuff, thank you, just what i was looking for.
I use only HLG2 / Rec 709 and I am very happy with the result! :-)
Nice! I’ve played back and forth between bt2020 and rec709. What made you go rec709?
@@dunnadidit i found this info on the youtube Chanel of Gerald Undone but not sure anymore but somewere on the net :-) I think it was better if you grade with the APP Filmconvert . Yes if you use it with with filmconvert better to put on REC709 ...What do you think?
I need to do a bit more research but my understanding is that bt2020 has a bit wider color options so I felt like I was getting a bit more out of it but I don’t know that it really makes a huge difference. Mostly I use it because I use specific correction luts designed to use the bt2020 option.
This was fantastic, just the explanation I needed!
Oh wow i didnt know there were profiles out there that were better then the internal log profiles. I just assumed the internal log was the all around better option. Thanks for the info time ro go test profiles now 😂
Haha all the profiles I used are internal profiles. But it’s not so much about better or worse... it’s about better or worse FOR THE SITUATION. But I do suggest going and testing them all out to see what you like best!
Great info. Thank you!
What about shooting stills with picture profiles like S log 2 can I stretch that as much as the Raw file? And witch profile do you recoment Is easy to grade from Sony A7 II I think it has Cine profile also and S-log 2
Shooting raw for stills is better. More information. And picture profiles only burn into jpg’s for a7ii id go with cine2 for video
@@dunnadidit thanks I will try Cine2, S-log 2 feels a bit demanding. 👍
Thanks! Really needed this video!!
Glad it was helpful!
@@dunnadidit Maybe follow up with your actual camera settings for each profile?
Ie black, saturation etc at this level.
And keep up the good work
All the stock settings. The only thing I change is putting detail to -7
@@dunnadidit Final question. Whats the reason for the -7?
Well 'Detail' in general
From Neaples, where the coffee is a cult...i loved your analogy...:)...Looking for my best run&gun setting on new sony a 7s3...:) Ciao!
With the 7s3 I’ve been shooting almost all SLOG3 and loving it.
Well done.
Love it!
Thanks!
Great ! Have question: So if I use No Profile - what ISO do I use ? The lower ISO the better ? Or do I stick to the two camera's base ISO's ? Thank you !
What do you do to make a living? Can you make a video about how to make money with videography?
I do two things to make a living. I am part owner of a recording studio/I’m a music producer and I make RUclips videos. I’ll keep that video in mind!
Thank you so much for this info! Do you have a recommended profile for doing a recap video for a concert? I mostly go to edm shows with crazy stage light production.
This was very helpful.
That’s great to hear!!
I edit a lot on the go for work and sadly need a quick fix to push content out. Would you recommend HLG3 even through capcut (disclaimer I use Davinci on large projects or when I have time)
I was waiting for this
The wait is OVER!
awesome ...i am from ethiopia...i love the way you tell us about pp.......even if 8 bit in sony a7 iii is not enough to play with s log 2 footage I am a fun of s log 2.but the footage I got from standard picture profile is bad but the footage you got from the standard profile is very nice ...what is you the reason behind the footage?
SLOG2 is still useable for sure, I find you just have to really NAIL the exposure right on in camera. If you don’t get that, that’s when it starts to fall apart for me. The reason my standard profile looks nice on the shot with the plants is because there isn’t a lot of dynamic range in that shot. It’s not clipping the whites or the blacks. All the information in the scene fits inside the range that the picture allows.
Hi, can I use picture profile settings for video vlogs?! I don’t record in manual since I do vlogs. So I will like to know if I can still use picture profile? Thank you
Yeah you can, you just need to know how you need to expose different picture profiles and set your auto modes accordingly.
Let me sum this up for everyone, u can say picture profile is a type of RAW video ( not a actual raw video ) and no picture profile is like jpeg
super helpful video
Thanks for watching!
Jumping the gun perhaps, but looking forward to thoughts on profiles on the A7S III with the new color science.
Good idea! I’ll probably shoot a lot of SLOG3 with the 10bit
Hi. Thanks for the video I really enjoy watching them. Quick question though. I'm not sure if my camera is the problem but I have the ZV-e10 and whenever I change the picture profiles, the colors of the pictures that I have previously taken also change. Is this normal? or is it a setting problem?
Help please :((
Hey man, nice video and thank you. Currently playing around with the Sony picture profiles and as you said there are a bunch of other things under the hood! I'm using Cine4 and Pro mode but notice there are a ton of other settings, too. Do you tend to leave everything else as is or are there other things you do to obtain a more 'flat' image while filming. Thanks bud
I pretty much leave most things as is. I went through a phase where I played with everything but I’ve dialed that back a lot
@@dunnadidit Thanks for the reply that's awesome to know. I guess we all play around too much in the beginning! Currently filming on a Sony a7ii using Sigma f.14 16mm lense. The camera films maximum 1080p and since the lense is crop sensor once the image is full size it's probably less than 1080. Struggling with slight grainy footage but have done all I can do, low ISO, good lighting etc. I wonder if the 'grain' is really just the relatively low video pixel quality?
Yeah that’s a tough one, sounds like you’re doing all the right stuff. Unfortunately, grain is just part of the package sometimes.