Digging into the Science Behind Medical Keto | with Dr. Chris Palmer
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2024
- We got to sit down with Dr. Chris Palmer again to discuss further the science behind medical keto and it's use in the treatment of mental illnesses including schizophrenia.
Thank you so much Dr. Palmer for joining us again!
You can find more about his work with metabolic health and mental illness and his book 'Brain Energy' here - brainenergy.com/
Previous two interviews with Dr. Palmer:
'Are Mental Illnesses Really Metabolic Disorders?' - • Are Mental Illnesses R...
'Is the Ketogenic Diet Effective in Treating Schizophrenia?' - • Is the Ketogenic Diet ...
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
02:06 What is medical keto?
06:26 What is metabolic dysfunction?
09:31 What is the benefit of medical keto and using ketones for energy?
12:39 Discussion of processes in the mitochondria (mitochondrial biogenesis, mitophagy, mitochondrial uncoupling)
19:38 Why the ketogenic diet is helpful
21:29 Discussion of the microbiome
25:28 Will you need to do medical keto forever?
MEDICAL KETO RESOURCES
You can learn more about medical keto for mental illnesses on the Metabolic Mind RUclips channel (@metabolicmind) and on their website www.metabolicmind.org/
You can also learn more about metabolic health and mental illness from the book 'Brain Energy' by Dr. Christopher Palmer - brainenergy.com/
You can find more about my keto coach Nicole Laurent and her work on her website:
www.mentalhealthketo.com/
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لقد قمت مؤخرا ً بصيغة فيديو حول قصة شفاء الدكتور الرائع كريس بالمر و مقطع حول خطة العلاج ... يسعدني ان أدعوكم دكتور لمشاهدة المقطع على قناة 🔥 قصص شفاء شيقة 🔥
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I recently made a video about the healing story of the wonderful Dr. Chris Palmer, and a clip about the treatment plan... I am happy to invite you, Doctor, to watch the clip on the channel 🔥 Interesting Healing Stories 🔥
Arabic speaking, but translation is available
I second Dr Palmer about how great you are. I know you have mentioned wanting to be an educator and going back to school. People who get advanced degrees in education want to be like you. I was revelling in what a great interviewer you are and how brilliantly you summarize and synthesize complex issues. You have been a godsend for me🙏
I totally agree!!!❤
Lauren you fully deserve Dr Palmers praise. You have helped me a lot in countless ways. Putting yourself out there takes courage and a v strong will to live your best life ❤xx
I almost cried at the end when dr. Palmer thanked Lauren because it’s so true. You sharing your experience is going to help so many folks, myself very much included. Thank you for sharing this. Thank you for being you. Sending love ❤
His genuine words were so moving. Dr Chris Palmer is a rare gem of a doctor whose research is motivated by empathy for those living with challenging disorders.
I did cry, lol, because he articulated how I feel, so very appreciative of Lauren and Rob for sharing their lives. It’s made me feel less alone as a caregiver, and made me feel less helpless.
Keep up the research, people need solutions to carry on with their lives.
لقد قمت مؤخرا ً بصيغة فيديو حول قصة شفاء الدكتور الرائع كريس بالمر و مقطع حول خطة العلاج ... يسعدني ان أدعوكم دكتور لمشاهدة المقطع على قناة 🔥 قصص شفاء شيقة 🔥
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Solving trauma is not that easy unfortunately, that you take the person out of the traumatic situation and thats it. Most of the times the person have to get extensive therapy after the trauma, especially with cptsd.
I totally agree
Of course, but it is is clearly the first step
I agree with you 100%. With that said, I do want to give Dr. Palmer credit for acknowledging that abuse may be a factor in psychological distress. Unfortunately (as I'm sure you're aware) a lot of mental health practitioners simply jump to blaming/not believing victims and pushing meds, meds, meds when they should be listening.
i agree from my understanding the cptsd / disorganized attachment can only be redressed through attachment based psychotehrapy but where I live a yearsworth is well over 10 grand but the mental and emotional anguish is unbearable , i will try keto again to see if it alleviates my health issues but im skeptical considering many ancedtoral reports claim it helped them initially but then they said it actually didnt do anything so im not sure what to believe keto certainly increases GABA and BDNF in the brain but im not sure that will heal trauma it might assist in the process but the root cause is emotional in nature, attachment
Thank you again for your very helpful information! I definitely feel better since I started Keto. My symptoms of schizoaffective disorder are subsiding and I feel so much more stable.
Yay! Are you measuring ketones, just curious how you are implementing the diet? How long etc
@@CashMoneyMoore I just ordered a breath monitor. But eating only high fat/low carb foods and drinking only water or tea. I've been using the diet for about 3 weeks.
So, I have been following your channel off and on for a while. This video brought tears to my eyes. I know you have had so many struggles yourself, yet you are not letting anything stop you from moving forward with trying to find help find solutions for mental illnesses, and you want people's quality of life to be good. Thank you!! 🥰 Also, a shout out to your family and friends who support you!!!
Thank you, this was very informative. I respond much more positively to experts who readily identify what they do not yet know, as Dr. Palmer did.
Dr Palmer raised a good point that may explain the video I watched before watching this one and that is you are lean, you are super lean and I began wondering if you're not feeling well because you store very little if any fat and you may not getting enough fat in your diet. Thank you for asking about the percentage of people who could transition to a more normal yet very healthy diet once mitochondrial and cell function are restored. Dr Palmer is right, you are amazing, your husband is amazing as well but your amazing because you lived your life as a positive example all your life and now you stand to completely transform others life by showing them there is a better way.
Wow, a TED-talk-quality interview on the Living Well With Schizophrenia Channel. So proud of you, Lauren. Thanks for sharing your info with us. You are helping so many people. I agree with Dr. Palmer. You are a great example of what it means to be Living Well With Schizophrenia. (My last post on one of your videos accidentally posted 7 times, and someone asked if I am a troll. Sorry for the tech glitch. I am a real person. I'm going to try to post this, and if it messes up again I just won't post anymore.)
Thank you so much for this interview. It was so helpful.
I’m so grateful for Dr. Chris Palmer, he really is really changing lives-and you too! :)
It's interesting how views on a video don't always chime with how valuable the content. I believe your channel can greatly change self recognition of our conditions. While maybe not having another close contact with schizophrenia spectrum disorders, your channel provides much needed awareness, reflection and real firsthand gritty experience.
The same applies to your bold new series, applying medical keto which may prove to be an excellent alternative to medicine with its known side effects, it could provide hope. I've read Brain Energy and see its potential, thank you for cataloging your own experiences in this. I wholeheartedly echo what Dr Palmer says.
Wishing you, Rob and your family excellent health too.
Thankyou🎉
You are so inspiring and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for whatever magic you possess to be able to put out this kind of content. You have saved at least one life, but I suspect many more.
لقد قمت مؤخرا ً بصيغة فيديو حول قصة شفاء الدكتور الرائع كريس بالمر و مقطع حول خطة العلاج ... يسعدني ان أدعوكم دكتور لمشاهدة المقطع على قناة 🔥 قصص شفاء شيقة 🔥
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@@Interesting-healing-stories أوه حقًا؟ سوف اتحقق من ذلك!
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يسعدني ذالك بالطبع ... هناك العديد من قصص الشفاء عبر النظام الغذائي و العامل النفسي
يسعدني خدمتك بالمعلومة لعلك تكونين قصة الشفاء التالية 🔥🔥 بحول الله
@@Interesting-healing-stories ان شاء الله.
Very interesting discussion! It would be great to know exactly why these treatments seem to work, perhaps to let us focus in on more targeted treatments and separate the wheat from the chaff, but until that time let's just enjoy the fact that it is working! It's important to not lose the forest for the trees.
Thank you to you both for the fascinating conversation
Enjoyed the interview with Dr. Palmer. I picked up a confirmation for one simple solution that I have been contemplating to make, in order to better my current situation. Very, very encouraging. Thank you Lauren for all your efforts.
Shout out to You Both. Great job. Thanks!
Awwww your reaction to his praise was so very sweet.
Thank you both. You're very helpful to me, I'm going to tell my Dr about you, and look for a medical keto dietician.
You're doing excellent work, thank you for sharing this information with us.
I really appreciate this conversation. Thank you for asking about the timeframes for potential diet changes. I also appreciate how the issues were addressed both medically and anecdotally. Medication has risks, diet changes have risks. So there are uses for both things and worth noting, it feels complicated using both.
This wonderful doctor said it best as to just how special and amazing you are Lauren. Thank you indeed for all you do, give and are……such a beautiful open heart !❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I am so excited to watch this and learn about the science behind medical keto! I have been loving your new content on this topic!
This is so exciting and thank you sharing your journey and providing the resources and options we have to doing more reading and research ;-)
This was very interesting. Thank you!!
The GAPS Diet (Gut and Psychology Syndrom Diet) is in my opinion brilliant to heal the gut microbiom because there are included a lot of beneficial probiotic foods and you have to eat a lot of fat. There are different versions and it is possible to do it keto.
Really excellent thank you for arranging this. I will research what he talks about.
Wow, I’m so
Glad to see him on your channel! I mentioned him a few times on your channel in the past..
It's true your amazing I'm not sure about keto yet but I really have been watching what I eat take better care of myself also because of some of your other videos too I think your great and you and your videos are a big part of my life I love them ❤️ thank you 😊
I think i'd need to read more around this because for me not enough was answered here.
thank you from Argentina! 🙏
You two are amazing human beings
Thanks!
Love Dr. Palmer and your videos. Thank you as always,
I dont have the monetary means access to a professional, it's tremendously expensive so I'm willing to undergo this process by my own volition. From my understanding so long as you are tracking your macros, ketones, and maintaining discipline for a prolongued period of time you will see improvement.
excellent info!
Very informative video! It all sounds so promising! I'm curious what types of patients with chronic mental illness are not responders to keto and if not, how so? Why not? What percent are not responders?
I wish there could be some ketosis therapy research into me/cfs as it is a metabolic krebs cycle problem wherein the metabolism stays stuck in anaerobic respiration..glycolysis. It is a huge problem affecting millions..and especially now with long covid. And it causes huge mental health issues..directly and indirectly.
13:23 "high levels of reactive oxygen"
I want to know about this.
So mitochondrial repair is observed to be elevated, when on Keto, ie when eating low carb and relying on fats.
But what is causing the higher levels of reactive oxygen? (Or increase in mitochrondial repair?)
And what does "reactive oxygen" mean? I heard vitamins like Vitamin C is good for immune system function because it picks up radicals, I believe like oxygen.
I have critical questions to understand the root of this.
As far as I can tell Candida diet it's nearly identical to Keto. All the things you drop in Keto are foods that contribute to the fungal systems living in our body. People have also reported years of remission after adhering to the low carb Candida Diet, just as this professor describes in some cases with Keto.
Reactive oxygen species = ROS
These are a natural part of the biological/chemical reaction of metabolism that can lead to oxidative stress and free radical formation which may result in DNA damage. Antioxidants (like vitamin C) counteract the damaging effects of this process.
im fortunate enough to disengage from the traumatic environment but the emotional and mental anguish remains unresolved irrespective of my incessant efforts at trying to redress the past
Sometimes we develop health issues from the trauma and we are experiencing the symptoms of the undiagnosed health condition.
How does gluconeogenesis affect glucose levels during ketosis, when trying to maintain low glucose levels? Is it too high protein intake? How to minimize unwanted gluconeogenesis?
I liked your video. I have been sick a while, and your videos inspired me to drink more fluids, return to using more Biotin, and eating healthier foods, and or instead of only foods Active Adult Centre of Mississauga Bingo ones. Such as earlier today. And vlogged. My breathing is not well, very. Living Well With Schizophrenia. Avril living with Sinus Bradycardia, and
This leads me to believe that hypothyroidism affects mitochondria adversely. Thermal dysregulation and the inability to convert food into energy are key parts of it. This is so fascinating!
Yes! I have hypothyroidism and it does affect the mitochondria.. there’s a great book called, It’s Mitochondria Not Hypochondria. T3 has really helped me and carnivore.
Never mind the symptoms of hypothyroidism-i.e., anxiety, depression, etc.. it makes so much sense that the mitochondria is not functioning properly.
@@RationalNon-conformist that's fascinating! I've heard great things about carnivore diet for auto immune disease. I've always felt like dirty was really important for health but seeing all this research and even anecdotal evidence makes me excited that I'm on the right path!
Keto for the aging brain ?
Can mitochondria be directly measured?
Are there particular medicines that effect the mitochondria or the gut biome that need to be noted here?
Metformin might be a problem medication, it seems to inhibit mitochondrial atp production. There are some mitochondrial measures - this research Dr. Picard runs a mitochondrial lab at Columbia university, this is a very interesting interview- ruclips.net/video/_3dhmMcj17w/видео.html
I would watch all the videos on their channel, they work closely with Dr. Palmer and have interviewed Lauren recently as well
How are you creating your meal plan I am so lost.
I'm convinced that ketogenic diet is what people from the era of "hunters and gatherers" ate. That period of humanity before farming was invented was longest and what evolution has adapted our bodies most to. If you look carb foods then they are all ready in 1 season and that is autumn. The prehistoric hunters and gatherers would start storing fat instead of burning it for winter. That being said i have no intention of ever quitting ketogenic diet because it may actually be the 1 correct human diet. edit: Gave it more thought and it may be that certain people with certain genes have forefathers that hunted and gathered longer and therefore need a special diet. I does feel like i ate the wrong food my entire life. Maybe future gene tests will tell what you need to eat.
Modern hunters like the hadza eat the fattiest biggest game they can find. Unfortunately (for them) they are not allowed to kill large game like elephants, giraffes etc because of government restrictions, but the point is, they are fat hunters and their current diet is not what they would eat if they were permitted to eat as they please.
When they did a survey their food preferences were 1) meat 2) honey 3) baobab fruit. But guess what, 2 and 3 are seasonal! When it's available they gorge on the free calories and put on weight, but most of the year they are not. Lots of interesting anthropology around keto/carnivore diets. Stefanson and the Inuit people etc.
@@CashMoneyMoore Hunter gatherers would have, and do eat whatever they can find. Their subsistence is mostly of meat when they can find it, and anything else when they can’t. Their main staple these days is a porridge like paste. Not permitted to? You think they care about national laws? They don’t know them. It’s out of respect and ability.
They are restricted in the areas they can hunt, they are not allowed to live with the large game in the Serengeti @@xxthreedaysgrace2xx
Fascinating. I am a big fan of telling people to eat more "fat". As in cheese and butter. To cut out alot of carbs only makes sense because something in the carbs seems to destroy our other brain-our guts.
I also think its quite healthy to evalute how you feel with the medication very often, not just because you are on a diet. I think psychotic stages can be very heavy and can be mild. Doctors should think of a way to answer accordingly with the medication even though its tricky to scale down in this "special field". Its always an up and down unfortunately, the good and the negative syptoms will always be there.
What about a new drug karxt? When is this medicine available in the market?
I'm also wondering, is there anyone Chris would say should not do keto despite having a serious mental illness?
I wish i could try this for my schizophrenia but i have an eating disorder and am an athlete. So i don’t know how i would take that much fat in my diet. I also have pretty high protein requirements too in order to keep my muscles up.
Lots of interesting research right now on ketosis TREATING anorexia and eating disorders - here's a good link for some of the research - ruclips.net/video/qwnnqMfQkrs/видео.html
Athletics is another thing, but a lot of athletes find that they can really use carbs around athletic performance and maintain ketosis if the exercise is sufficient
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Is Lauren's partner Rob trying this for his depression too? I think itvwould be easier if couples do this together. I'm thinking of this, I have depression and my wife schitzoaffective disorder.
The high depression levels experienced by most “partners, husbands, wives even adult sons and daughters … is a logical consequence of the empathy for the affliction of the loved one and the fact that there is no cure. More than decades of research is bringing more understanding but the condition of mental illness is rising and that fact alone is very depressing. Pharmacy is part of the problem, pollution is another and our government needs to be pressured into action.
What are the differences between keto and medical keto?
The goal of these "health based" diets should be to reach a point of gratuitous amounts of food and a healthy metabolism. Unless you are severely epileptic or elsewise and are seeking a severe intervention.
Please do an interview on Candida Diet in the future. It fits really well with what this doctor is saying.
It is really fascinating and notable that some people have long lasting benefits.
لقد قمت مؤخرا ً بصيغة فيديو حول قصة شفاء الدكتور الرائع كريس بالمر و مقطع حول خطة العلاج ... يسعدني ان أدعوكم دكتور لمشاهدة المقطع على قناة 🔥 قصص شفاء شيقة 🔥
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I need keto. Maybe to lose weight.
As an anthropologist, who arguably knows more about Humans than an MD, all faded diets are bad. To be actually healthy we need a wide and varied diet of unprocessed foods. Not this keto bs. This won’t help you, and is misinforming your viewers.
With all due respect, the ketogenic diet stops seizures. There is no other known diet that does that. They are talking about a medical intervention.
@@CashMoneyMoore then the title should reflect that. Not that the keto diet is good for you, but that it’s potentially good for one subset of people with treatment resistant conditions. Any fasting will reduce seizures, it’s because YOU HAVE A LACK OF NUTRIENTS. All these diet fad authors are conmen
Keto diet works I am proof. The only people who heckle are people who have not tried it or been epileptic or severely mentally ill.
What is your definition of healthy?
@@kimberlyf4888 a balance between mental and physical well-being
NO....not sugar. I'm not willing to give up sugar. Maybe spend some of that FAT research money on MARIJUANA. It's been helping me for a long time....As much as you advocate for treatment, I have yet to hear any mention of God's plant.
I enjoy your channel and I'm happy to follow along, but keto as a treatment......count me out!
You sound like an addict