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Yes 🧎🏻♀️ Hashimotos wrecks havoc on my hormones the whole cycle through dips & rises in hormones causing some bad depression & a feeling of being way off. Causing me to have to isolate till it's under control. With God's guidance, I take many supplements & heavely rely on Jesus & God's word. I just know He'll use my 25+ yes of torture for His Glory & I will be able to help others. Unfortunately food has become such a comfort, I have a lot of work & discipline ahead of me. You made such a good point, look at pms & menopause. Hormones! What onset of adolescence does to most kids. 🧎🏻♀️🧎🏻♀️
I recently changed from keto to carnivore, after two weeks my lifelong anxiety and depression seemed to vanish and my mood, energy, etc continue to improve, brain fog gone, memory and focus better than i can remember. I'm 70 years old..
omg omg omg. Can't believe this interview happened! We applied these lifestyle interventions with my mom who has schizoaffective symptoms and it healed so much of her. I really appreciate Dr. Palmer sharing his story with his mom because it validated so much of our experience. Watching now 💛
Idk if you’ve revisited this channel for awhile, but… Lauren is now on a medical keto diet, and slowly getting off her meds with great success!! Hope your mom is continuing to thrive ❤
Kelly maybe have a look at the book Nutrient Power by William Walsh, they have tens of thousands of case studies I think on treating mental illness with nutrition too I believe, a lot of it relating to the methylation cycle. I have had ME/CFS myself for over 20 years with shades of schizophrenia, ADD and such and revisiting this subject matter myself more seriously lately. Some people cure themselves of ME/CFS with the correct supplementation and diet changes to address different genetic pathways, they tend to be things like MAO-A, MTHFR, COMT or CBS issues.
12:15 Just wanted to add that insulin resistance may also be a bodily response to childhood trauma (as per the findings of other studies) or a factor related to poverty and its associated stressors, both of which may contribute to psychosis in adulthood. I’m all for considering broader research into the origins of mental illness that stretches beyond the limited thinking of, “it’s a chemical imbalance, and the only answer is drugs! drugs! drugs!” That said, I think it would be a good idea for us to use our discernment and consider diet as one amongst many things that may support our mental wellbeing, not a cure-all. Thanks Lauren and Dr. Palmer for sharing this thought-provoking discussion.
If you read the book Dr. Palmer integrates all the known risk factors into the metabolic model by showing that they also have been shown to affect metabolism. You might be surprised though by how powerful the ketogenic diet is for metabolic and mental health.
@@CashMoneyMoore - Exactly! Palmer's view is that of metabolic and mitochondrial dysfunction. Diet is important, but it's only one factor that affects health on this level.
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Mind-blowing interview. Lauren, you're a great interviewer, letting him have his time to express his ideas without cutting him off. There was this deep moment when he was speaking about his experience with a patient, and his voice, the pauses, the complete silence when he was pausing, him not being interrupted, etc., everything was perfect to create that sense of closeness and openness. Thank you both for this interview.
I agree , she cuts the interview in the most important part, almost like she does'nt want to hear what his experience is ... I think there might be so many different "root causes" for this disorder , it's very possible some are just diet-epigenetic related .....
In the late 1960's my favorite Uncle became schizophrenic, I was about 14 and my mother took me to the State Hospital to visit him....I was traumatized. I still have the image of a person sitting in the hall smoking a cigarette -- there was a cigarette lighter embedded into the wall. I did a major research paper on the brain for science so that I could include mental illness. I learned the word Catatonic to describe the people whose eyes no longer were alive.. The work you are doing in these RUclipss are so healing for me....
my mother does not want to help too cook ketogenic foods. She could help me. I could do carnivore, that would be easy for me to do. There is so much research right now that points in the direction that schizophrenia can be healed
The big pharma companies won't like people getting better by changing their diet. They need us all to stay on our meds so they can rake in the big bucks. Very interesting interview, thank you for arranging this.
@@shmockette7158 Absolutely. I would say that pretty much everyone that has gone off their meds, then crashed and burned, would tell you, no matter how good you feel you are not cured, you are stable. There is a world of difference between the two.
Unfortuantely there are some conditions physical AND mental, that are chronic and life-long, dietary changes could be a positive, though it's not going to completely rid of schizophrenia.
Before I continue watching this video, I just wanna say that I love you. I've watched some of your videos back before you even started doing keto and I loved having a friendly face on RUclips who also had Schizoaffective Disorder like me. But when I found out last night that you've been doing keto AND tapering off your meds, I was so excited. You are so brave for doing this and you are helping people like me who already wanted to explore medical keto as an option for improving mental health holistically. I am so excited about catching up on your content. I'm using it as a self-care action because my favorite way to relax is watching RUclips. Keep doing what you're doing! F*** the haters!
I suffer from depression and anxiety and eating disorders off and on since my teen years. For me sunlight daily is vital, exercise is life saving for me but in moderate amounts unlike when I was in my eating disorders, regular bedtime and wake time and vitamin supplements that are needed.
Thank you beautiful lady! I’m so so happy I’ve found you , I have two adult children with this, it’s been so hard, on my knees in prayer for years, this doctor is onto something here 🥰👍💗💞💗
Absolutely LOVE this man❤. Thank you so much for having him on your channel. I think he is starting a revolution that will turn the treatment of mental illness on it's head. Listen to him everyone.
About 45 years ago, I had a friend living in the apartment above me and she developed Schizophrenia.Her and her boyfriend followed a vegetarian/vegan diet/macrobiotic diet. They had several books on their bookshelf regarding the subject and they shopped at the one of the few then called “health food stores” that sold things like nutritional yeast and miso. She was starting to see things and hear things. Her boyfriend who she lived with called me one day to tell me she had to be admitted to the psychiatric hospital. When I went to see her- she was so frantic and at the same time drugged. I remember that what popped into my mind at that time seeing her, that this Schizophrenic problem was because of her diet! I made that connection then. However, because of all the processed foods available and push towards plant based with whole grains I went down that path and deteriorated my own mental health with ADHD and anxiety and there was also a predisposition for this - my mom had bipolar and depression/anxiety and was medicated for years. Then about 5 years ago, I started seeing on RUclips feeds while watching WFPB and fasting, the keto and carnivore diets. I was somewhat familiar with Atkins having done that and remember feeling good. I have gone in and out of fasting and keto since then- currently back on track mostly Carnivore. Inflammation disappearing and mental clarity return. Thank you for this important interview. I lost touch with my friend and her boyfriend- I hope she is well.
I've been hearing a lot about how schizophrenia could be considered an autoimmune disorder, because there is proteins attacking the brain. There are lots of studies indicating such along with brain autopsies that show certain neuroreceptors that are being attacked. Most of the research I've done into mitochondria related illnesses generally have more to do with bipolar disorder.
@@michelle-vl3me that's my conclusion as well. I think I have actually found a spot behind the sinus membrane that leads straight into the cranial chamber on one of my CT scan. Occasionally I do get some leakage out of that sinus that does not seem to be snot.
@@stoneyvowell1239 studies have shown white blood cells in the brain where they do not belong. if they didn't break through the blood brain barrier, how did they get there. the white cells cause problems with cells that do belong in the brain, thus an autoimmune like situation is going on.
@leonard_alchemy Assumption of what? No assumption necessary. Assumptions are just low scale delusions. You can have an assumption without a delusion, but you cannot have a delusion without an assumption. Besides! Just about everything the doctors think they know is also assumptions! We have learned more about this particular illness in the last 10 years than we have in the last hundred years.
“You need to change your expectations for life.” 🥺 That is such a profound statement and so many people suffering from mental illness unfortunately relate to that. We just want to be “normal.” ❤
Wow this is incredible. Ive heard good things about anti inflammatory diet but I think I want to step it up a notch h on my healing journey. Thank you for this valuable information ❤
Lauren, you are a wonderful interview host. There are several very popular psychology hosts who interrupt so horribly l cannot bear to listen as the speaker never gets a cogent full thought out. You excel at what you do. You are a very graceful and articulate human being.
YES! Finally! This was amazing. And yes. A ketogenic diet has been 100% better for my depression and anxiety. I still take a 75mg Effexor daily, but that is a far cry from the nearly hospitalized me (kept out only under the knowledge of the total lack of autonomy I would have had if I were admitted). 😣
Super interesting interview! I was diagnosed at birth with phenylketonuria, a metabolic disorder of a specific amino acid and then with schizoaffective recently. I’d be interested to see more research covering this!! Thank you Lauren!
This was so good. Can't wait to share it with my mom who benefited so much from these interventions. Dr. Palmer has a great interview on Dax Shepard's podcast where he shares his experience with his mom's schizophrenia symptoms. His vulnerabilty and authenticity is very touching and made me feel seen. Thank you so much for bringing him on your channel!!
I am thrilled to hear this intellectually satisfying explanation, eons beyond the ancient approach of symptom-reducing-psychiatry. THANK YOU Living Well with Schizophrenia ⭐
thanks Dr Chris Palmer and Lauren that was fascinating and interesting discussion on some innovative approaches to sufferers and carers alike with advice.
This was a GREAT interview! I remain optimistic about this approach and what additional studies may reveal about it as a treatment option. Thank you so much for all you do for the mental health community with your channel. ❤
One that brings some real insight on a biological level and a lot of hope for a future with really effective strategies to mitigate these mental disorders!!!
As someone with insulin resistance who tried all the diets he talks about which were also recommended by my endocrinologist and diabetologist I can tell you it's not that simple - no change in my insulin resistance / glucose tolerance even after months of dieting. The only thing it did is cause me to have an ED relapse and poorer quality of life.
I have paranoid schizophrenia but I rarely ever experience hallucinations. I heard that keto diet is supposed to help with schizophrenia symptoms and I tried it few times but every time I go on that diet I started having hallucinations (which I never experienced on ‘classic’ diet), fears(especially at night) and just feeling strange. Idk if I’m like a specific case or what but ketogenic diet makes my schizophrenia symptoms worse. I do take CBD oil and that really helps me a lot just to add that here.
@@rebeccac.1758 maybe, he referred it as ‘keto flu’. I only did it for a week, couldn’t go on longer. Maybe I should have given it time. But it’s a very hard diet to follow, and especially when I experience things like hallucinations that I normally never experience on a classic diet. Idk, at the moment I’m feeling quite okay, maybe in the future I will try keto again idk.
First two weeks transitioning to diet can be rough. That's why I believe he recommends committing to 3 months of the diet to assess if it's working well or not.
Thank you so much for sharing. I have gone through depression for two whole years but now I don’t have it anymore and I love when you post about mental health for everyone.
Yeah your depression went away you got lucky schizophrenia never goes away and you have a whole system that doesn’t have an incentive to cure you only treat you like a sub human the rest of your life
I love this so much! I have seen Dr Palmer interviewed before, and I think his work is so fascinating. I have some physical health issues that prevent me from going full ketogenic, but I do find that when I'm eating in a balanced way that makes me feel good in my body, my own mental health symptoms improve significantly.
Off topic, but it’s interesting that Lauren’s blink rate is off the charts! One study suggests that frequent blinking indicates disengagement. I wonder if you remember, Lauren, whether you were having any particular trouble focusing on what your guest was saying in this recording? 🤔🤓 Great video content, either way!!! Thank you so much.❤
My mental health nurse told me to change my thoughts which in turn would change the chemicals in my body and how I feel. This has been a helpful tool alongside medication, little stress and lots of sleep. I probably need to look at my diet better and see if any changes can help there too.
My daughter has had an elevated WBC count for years. She’s seen 2 hematologists, blood sent to Mayo. No cancer cells. She was diagnosed with schizophrenia about 10 years ago, managed on meds alll that time. 4weeks ago psychosis hit and she is currently hospitalized. Of course I’ve been reading everything I can get my hands on. The more recent studies are showing a correlation between the immune system and schizophrenia. I’m wondering if that’s been the problem all along???? I’m just so worried about her and am not sure what to do at all! Your videos are informative, so thank you.
I have been trying keto, but honestly my mood feels better when I eat carbs. Carbs help soften my thoughts. I feel hard and flat without them. But I will keep persevering with keto for weight and diabetes management.
Carbs create feel good hormones in your brain (at this minute I can't remember the exact way), but red meat provides Tryptophan which creates Seretonin. So if your keto includes fatty red meat then it will end up doing the same thing that carbs do. Good luck ❤
The typical commitment is a 3 month commitment to know if the diet is working well for you or not. While measuring ketones and making sure you are in an adequate level of ketosis
This is truly amazing. Stop the focus on phy mds only. Let’s try exercise and Keto type diet first thing instead of assuming everyone needs phy mds. Some people need and do well on mds. Some people are negatively affected by phy mds and are not helped by them. Some people manage there mental health with diet, exercise, vitamins, sunlight exposure and dare I say when I have anxiety attacks which is less common I use CBD and THC edibles to calm attacks without the side affects of anxiety mds. Iam not saying my method would work for anyone else but for me it is very effective when used with the other things I talked about
My son has been diagnosed as bi polar, schizophrenia, etc. He has horrible time eating and sleeping. He's always been so sensitive. And constipated. It makes him so angry.
Gonna have to wait to watch this when I have more time to give it the time it deserves. Though as I'm on my first anti psychotic, and am having interesting effects from that
Thank you for this. I hoped you would've brought up antipsychotic medication and their effects on metabolism and if things like a keto diet can help in reducing the changes from the meds.
Interesting. I'm in a fourth year university course about sociology of the body. So there is a mix of sociology, study of social conditions and human behaviour, and a study of science - biology, genetics, statistics. My question is, from a critical standpoint, how the ketogenic diet or fasting diet improves mitochondrial function and why role those mitochondrial functions have in schizophrenic symptoms? More specifically, how do schizophrenic mitochondria function more generally, and what is the causal relationship between their current function and the neurological and behavioural outcomes? It's important to really dig into the fine details because psychological disorders are not just biology but also triggered, exacerbated, or managed in terms of social conditions. He did mention sleep, sunshine and routines. He also mentioned wealth - his patient who had access to vast ranges of other treatments was notably receptive to ketogenic treatment. Okay, remarkable, but not a convincing example from a scientific standpoint as there was a presence of other treatments occurring such as psychotherapy, which may or may not be credible for some changes. His argument regarding epilepsy, while interesting, is not convincing either, in my opinion. While the fact that ketogenic diets are effective interventions for epilepsy, indicating the diet has a potential to produce biological changes to a persons health, that does not mean it is effective for schizophrenia. If we are going to look at diet and epilepsy, we likely need to investigate the function of the diet on the body in scientific terms and cross reference it between epilepsy and schizophrenia. Lastly, he talks about epigenetics. Awesome. Genetic research is not infallible research either, although it is VERY cutting edge. When it comes to gene editing, through behaviour, that would be more of a coevolutiinary adaptation than a genetic modification. We need to understand how the behaviour of the patient is related to their environment and how those two components produce an adaptation that promotes recovery. Now I will note I am NOT a scientist nor sociologist. But my experience in school has taught me to tease out these finer details to excavate fallacy from fact. I would love to see our interviewee explain the research question, method, research findings. Not just anecdotal from his practice or musings about another seperate illness. Overall this is a fantastic video and I'm curious to know more. I struggle with mental illnesses myself but nothing in the D class, however, I do have a personal interest in understanding neurology to treat me own mental illness and disability, so anything about mental illness and neurology is appealing to me.
What about NRT? If someone is trying to quit smoking, what would be the effects of NRT/should someone get off of NRT as quickly as possible if they’re looking to heal metabolic disorders or mental health disorders driven by metabolic dysfunction? (Eg NRT such as nicotine patches, gum)
29:30 - why isn't nutrition taken more seriously = profitability considerations? Relating disorders to metabolism and holistic care gives me hope for (everyone's) loved ones who are coping. I would love to see support clinics/retreats open in Ontario/Canada.
Our Grand Daughter has lived with anxiety since puberty. She is married and has two kids and works full time for a very understanding corporation/union. ANYTHING especially if it has NOTHING to do with being a new medication would be a "Godsend". She needs STABILITY. A steady ROUTINE that doesn't change.
I really appreciate the way both of you articulate. I am not a native English, so it is a real pleasure for me not to make any effort to grasp your discussion lol
I always thought it was too much blood to the pre frontal cortex of the brain which sometimes push the neurotransmitters out of their proper position affecting the release of dopamine which can cause auditory hallucinations at certain times. An old friend of mine who had schizophrenia told me that methamphetamine would actually make the voices go away for a time.But would come back in full force once the effects of the drug wore off.Obviously a correlation between the rush of dopamine and the way the molecule attached to the neurotransmitters.
stress reduction as a fixable thing filling your time from a to b reducing stress then exerceing what will warm your body eliminate STRESS = ()()---- tia chi giving yourself a definition makes a world diference.
I had schizophrenia for several years and my recovery is so complete that it would be easy to think that I never had it in the first place. There are reasons to see that is not the case but I find that people are just uninterested since I did not become a problem even though I had the to potential to be a serious problem. No one seems to care as long as it doesn't affect them. I didn't even know what it was that I had until I had recovered significantly because the doctor and the people there in Chicago never told me what my problem was. They just gave me the ultimatum to take the medication or go home to New Jersey. Since I chose to go back home to New Jersey I never took the medication and yet I still didn't know what my problem was. I was still schizophrenic in New Jersey when I was working at Six Flags Great Adventure. I was hallucinating as I was guiding passengers into the roller coaster. I was hallucinating when I was on break. I was not taking drugs. I was hallucinating 24/7. I could go on talking about my symptoms but they were all typical symptoms. When I was in psychosis my pupils were dilating wildly which is typical of people who lie or believe lies and tell lies. It's just that my pupils were visibly dilating wildly. To make a long story short, I had to stop believing in my hallucinations and delusions for the sake of my sanity and it worked. I ignored all of my symptoms and it worked and I have never had a relapse, not even after 35 or more years. I retired after working 30 years at a high security airport and I would like to help others but people are just not interested. I don't expect anyone to care. You would think that in order to learn how to cure, completely cure schizophrenia, the doctors would want to talk to someone who has had a complete recovery. I knew what it was to be normal and then I knew what it was to be tormented and totally powerless to make it go away. Then I learned how to become normal again without medication or counseling. My counseling was totally internal. I had to trust my own delusional mind more than the mind of the doctors. They simply don't like that.
I'm curious to know what happens in our bodies if we skip meds on weekends. Obviously depends on what medication but what if the half-life is 72 hours or so? Would there be an impact there?
I have had schizophrenia since I was 14. Although I don't have paranoid type. But I am prone to chronic anxiety. I also have a body type that is a true Mesomorph. Because of the natural high presence of muscles that are still present at 53 yesrs old, my natural diet was high protein and iron but I require a slightly higher level of carbs than the average person. This was fine until I went on Seroquel, went from weighing 124 lbs at 5 feet with a 22 inch waist that I naturally had. Now I have a 42 inch waist and weigh 189lbs. I quickly developed fatty liver disease and was placed on a fatty liver disease diet. It is high protein, low carb, no breads or grains and only some fruits. I was able to stop gaining weight but couldn't lose weight either. And I had a daily calorie intake of 800 to 1100 calories per day. I was active as I always had been, but couldn't lose weight. My liver did improve somewhat but I still had fatty liver disease because I was taking 300 to 400 mg of Seroquel XR. Here's the thing, my anxiety got worse and worse. I have many tools in my toolbox but I found my anxiety really had gotten worse on this fatty liver diet. After doing a tonne of research I realized that serotonin is produced in the stomach. Not only does Seroquel effects your stomachs ability to function properly, you require carbs for your stomach to create, maintain and regulate healthy serotonin levels. So I increased my carb intake with healthy carbs (not these high ruffage based cards that have very little available carbohydrate value). Within a matter of weeks my moods stabilized mostly because I didn't feel like a massive stress ball. And my anxiety levels dropped dramatically. I still have some low level anxiety but it is more manageable and I am in general happier. And I slept better with less bouts of insomnia. More importantly I was able to go off my Lamogrigine and Trazodon (spelling?) Both of these medications have many side effects and Trazodone interactions with a huge list of medications. I was also able to lower my Seroquel done to 200 mg XR. But I had to cut back in other areas of my diet to keep it right at 800 calories. I couldn't go up to 1100 calories or the pounds just started packing back on. The way I compensated was by eating rare beef steaks. You really don't need the same quantity of other meat or protein (lentils etc.) To get a high does of protein, B12 and fatty acids thus lower calories with beef. This kept me in my calorie range of 800 calories and my weight went back down to 185-189lbs. I do and always eaten a lot of eggs, minus the bacon and oatmeal (or barley unrolled) are one of the few grains I eat. I am not so sure of thinking a keto diet or carnivore diet is the magic bullet to treat schizophrenia. First, there is your body type and then there's other factors like if you also have chronic anxiety. The original fatty liver diet I was on totally agitated my anxiety as the carb intake was too low for my mental state and the amount of energy I needed to supply the muscle on my body. I don't think there's a one size fits all solution. My understanding is schizophrenia is a wiring issue. Neurologist have stated our brains are much more like someone who has epilepsy than a chemical imbalance of bipolar disorder and mood disorders. Meaning, I don't think people wuth schizophrenia all have the same set of biological factors, we may have similar structures to our brains. But body type, hormones, and other factors seem to not be a crucial factor. Anyway, I wouldn't discourage someone from talking with their doctor or psychiatrist about trying various diets to see if it helps. But honestly, I think it may or may not work or may only help with secondary or other symptoms that are not necessarily a marker only foubd in schizophrenia.
QUESTION: It seems like high cholesterol would be a byproduct of the diet; how does the doctor feel about fish oil to raise good cholesterol and reduce bad cholesterol? Unfortunately, it seems like it takes an enormous amount of fish oil to have a measurable effect -- is that accurate?
They need some good controlled studies on the ketogenic diet. I’d like to know how a ketogenic works for normal weight people since it causes people to lose weight.
I’ve heard him saying the randomized controlled trials are in progress and that the results are promising. Medical keto is much higher in fats than a traditional weight loss keto it sounds like.
Wow, fascinating! At 29:23 you ask why nutrition isn’t talked about more or taken more seriously. Because diet doesn’t make the big pharmaceutical companies any money. They make money off of getting more people using their drugs, so it doesn’t pay to tell people they can improve just by changing their diets.
Look into spirit release therapy, either with a trained hypnotist, or a spirit release team. Some people do not have to live with schizophrenia. The medical profession doesn’t acknowledge this approach, but I’ve seen it work
The medical keto diet has been proven to help schizophrenia, but that's different than the keto diet people do for weight loss. That was an important distinction he didn't make. if you want to try the keto diet for schizophrenia, you can't just google keto recipes or anything. You have to do the specific medical keto diet- and be warned it's really gross. Lots and lots of fat but it's just plain fat like mayonnaise or oil.
Like many things in medicine, there are different doses for different therapies. There are many intricacies to the implementation of the treatment plan, but in general for schizophrenics who are obese, often cutting carbs to 0-20 is sufficient to get a therapeutic effect. The weight loss really drives up the ketones. For others who are closer to an ideal weight they might perhaps start at a 2:1 fat-to-protein/carb ratio which can even be achieved without weighing and measuring food (IE the Modified Atkins diet) and that can be a sufficient therapeutic intervention for those with BP2 and Schizo. I have seen Dr. Palmer recommending starting at 2:1 for 3 months and seeing if the dose needs to be titrated up or down.
Does anyone know of anything helpful with memory and concentration? This is my first time working as a medical assistant and I'm having trouble with these things in my externship. Thanks
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Post partum psychosis clearly demonstrates that psychosis has connections to hormones and metabolism. I pray the research continues!
So same with post partum depression proving at least one of the mechanisms of depression
Yes 🧎🏻♀️ Hashimotos wrecks havoc on my hormones the whole cycle through dips & rises in hormones causing some bad depression & a feeling of being way off. Causing me to have to isolate till it's under control. With God's guidance, I take many supplements & heavely rely on Jesus & God's word. I just know He'll use my 25+ yes of torture for His Glory & I will be able to help others. Unfortunately food has become such a comfort, I have a lot of work & discipline ahead of me.
You made such a good point, look at pms & menopause. Hormones! What onset of adolescence does to most kids. 🧎🏻♀️🧎🏻♀️
EXACTLY!!!
Or sleep deprivation
I recently changed from keto to carnivore, after two weeks my lifelong anxiety and depression seemed to vanish and my mood, energy, etc continue to improve, brain fog gone, memory and focus better than i can remember. I'm 70 years old..
Do you remember how much your carbohydrate intake decreased by? I'm so curious how large the difference was for you after dropping vegetables
omg omg omg. Can't believe this interview happened! We applied these lifestyle interventions with my mom who has schizoaffective symptoms and it healed so much of her. I really appreciate Dr. Palmer sharing his story with his mom because it validated so much of our experience. Watching now 💛
Hey I met a woman with the condition and I love her. Would you think having a child would be a bad or good idea?
awesome!
Idk if you’ve revisited this channel for awhile, but… Lauren is now on a medical keto diet, and slowly getting off her meds with great success!! Hope your mom is continuing to thrive ❤
@@DannyD-lr5yg I'm keeping up with her journey; very exciting to see!! Thanks for your kind comment! All the best to you!
@@creatoratplayHow is your mum?
I have schizophrenia but also study Biochemistry this is so interesting to connect the dots. Need to read more into this.
Kelly maybe have a look at the book Nutrient Power by William Walsh, they have tens of thousands of case studies I think on treating mental illness with nutrition too I believe, a lot of it relating to the methylation cycle. I have had ME/CFS myself for over 20 years with shades of schizophrenia, ADD and such and revisiting this subject matter myself more seriously lately. Some people cure themselves of ME/CFS with the correct supplementation and diet changes to address different genetic pathways, they tend to be things like MAO-A, MTHFR, COMT or CBS issues.
Read Dr Ray Peat to connect even more dots ( :
@@trifract4742Making scatter plot graphs is another great way to connect dots
12:15 Just wanted to add that insulin resistance may also be a bodily response to childhood trauma (as per the findings of other studies) or a factor related to poverty and its associated stressors, both of which may contribute to psychosis in adulthood.
I’m all for considering broader research into the origins of mental illness that stretches beyond the limited thinking of, “it’s a chemical imbalance, and the only answer is drugs! drugs! drugs!”
That said, I think it would be a good idea for us to use our discernment and consider diet as one amongst many things that may support our mental wellbeing, not a cure-all.
Thanks Lauren and Dr. Palmer for sharing this thought-provoking discussion.
If you read the book Dr. Palmer integrates all the known risk factors into the metabolic model by showing that they also have been shown to affect metabolism. You might be surprised though by how powerful the ketogenic diet is for metabolic and mental health.
absolutely!
@@CashMoneyMoore - Exactly! Palmer's view is that of metabolic and mitochondrial dysfunction. Diet is important, but it's only one factor that affects health on this level.
Mind-blowing interview.
Lauren, you're a great interviewer, letting him have his time to express his ideas without cutting him off. There was this deep moment when he was speaking about his experience with a patient, and his voice, the pauses, the complete silence when he was pausing, him not being interrupted, etc., everything was perfect to create that sense of closeness and openness.
Thank you both for this interview.
Agreed! For a deeper dive I would recommend his interview on Tim Ferris’ podcast. It was extremely moving and informative hearing more of his stories.
@@ryanquella, I'll check it out, thanks!
I agree , she cuts the interview in the most important part, almost like she does'nt want to hear what his experience is ... I think there might be so many different "root causes" for this disorder , it's very possible some are just diet-epigenetic related .....
In the late 1960's my favorite Uncle became schizophrenic, I was about 14 and my mother took me to the State Hospital to visit him....I was traumatized. I still have the image of a person sitting in the hall smoking a cigarette -- there was a cigarette lighter embedded into the wall.
I did a major research paper on the brain for science so that I could include mental illness. I learned the word Catatonic to describe the people whose eyes no longer were alive.. The work you are doing in these RUclipss are so healing for me....
my mother does not want to help too cook ketogenic foods. She could help me. I could do carnivore, that would be easy for me to do. There is so much research right now that points in the direction that schizophrenia can be healed
The big pharma companies won't like people getting better by changing their diet. They need us all to stay on our meds so they can rake in the big bucks. Very interesting interview, thank you for arranging this.
You are absolutely right!!!!
We should definitely stay on our meds if they are helping us with psychosis or any mental disorders we suffer with though, right?
@@shmockette7158 Absolutely. I would say that pretty much everyone that has gone off their meds, then crashed and burned, would tell you, no matter how good you feel you are not cured, you are stable. There is a world of difference between the two.
Yaaas! I have a condition call ankylosing Spondylitis and I am pain free with only diet. You are not lying!
Unfortuantely there are some conditions physical AND mental, that are chronic and life-long, dietary changes could be a positive, though it's not going to completely rid of schizophrenia.
Before I continue watching this video, I just wanna say that I love you. I've watched some of your videos back before you even started doing keto and I loved having a friendly face on RUclips who also had Schizoaffective Disorder like me. But when I found out last night that you've been doing keto AND tapering off your meds, I was so excited. You are so brave for doing this and you are helping people like me who already wanted to explore medical keto as an option for improving mental health holistically. I am so excited about catching up on your content. I'm using it as a self-care action because my favorite way to relax is watching RUclips. Keep doing what you're doing! F*** the haters!
I suffer from depression and anxiety and eating disorders off and on since my teen years. For me sunlight daily is vital, exercise is life saving for me but in moderate amounts unlike when I was in my eating disorders, regular bedtime and wake time and vitamin supplements that are needed.
I have heard of cases of that helping people. I do also use CBD and THC
Thank you beautiful lady! I’m so so happy I’ve found you , I have two adult children with this, it’s been so hard, on my knees in prayer for years, this doctor is onto something here 🥰👍💗💞💗
I'm in the same situation and know only too well how hard it can be. I believe our prayers are being answered 💓🌞💡
My 36 years old is suffering since 13 years.Im a single parent and im broken totaly
Thanks!
Absolutely LOVE this man❤. Thank you so much for having him on your channel. I think he is starting a revolution that will turn the treatment of mental illness on it's head. Listen to him everyone.
About 45 years ago, I had a friend living in the apartment above me and she developed Schizophrenia.Her and her boyfriend followed a vegetarian/vegan diet/macrobiotic diet. They had several books on their bookshelf regarding the subject and they shopped at the one of the few then called “health food stores” that sold things like nutritional yeast and miso. She was starting to see things and hear things. Her boyfriend who she lived with called me one day to tell me she had to be admitted to the psychiatric hospital. When I went to see her- she was so frantic and at the same time drugged. I remember that what popped into my mind at that time seeing her, that this Schizophrenic problem was because of her diet! I made that connection then. However, because of all the processed foods available and push towards plant based with whole grains I went down that path and deteriorated my own mental health with ADHD and anxiety and there was also a predisposition for this - my mom had bipolar and depression/anxiety and was medicated for years. Then about 5 years ago, I started seeing on RUclips feeds while watching WFPB and fasting, the keto and carnivore diets. I was somewhat familiar with Atkins having done that and remember feeling good. I have gone in and out of fasting and keto since then- currently back on track mostly Carnivore. Inflammation disappearing and mental clarity return. Thank you for this important interview. I lost touch with my friend and her boyfriend- I hope she is well.
it might be because she missed EPA/DHA. its an animal fat found in fish.
I've been hearing a lot about how schizophrenia could be considered an autoimmune disorder, because there is proteins attacking the brain. There are lots of studies indicating such along with brain autopsies that show certain neuroreceptors that are being attacked. Most of the research I've done into mitochondria related illnesses generally have more to do with bipolar disorder.
the proteins that aren't supposed to be there have made me wonder if the blood brain barrier is damaged somehow.
@@michelle-vl3me that's my conclusion as well. I think I have actually found a spot behind the sinus membrane that leads straight into the cranial chamber on one of my CT scan. Occasionally I do get some leakage out of that sinus that does not seem to be snot.
@@stoneyvowell1239 studies have shown white blood cells in the brain where they do not belong. if they didn't break through the blood brain barrier, how did they get there. the white cells cause problems with cells that do belong in the brain, thus an autoimmune like situation is going on.
@@stoneyvowell1239 that is interesting
@leonard_alchemy Assumption of what? No assumption necessary. Assumptions are just low scale delusions. You can have an assumption without a delusion, but you cannot have a delusion without an assumption. Besides! Just about everything the doctors think they know is also assumptions! We have learned more about this particular illness in the last 10 years than we have in the last hundred years.
“You need to change your expectations for life.” 🥺 That is such a profound statement and so many people suffering from mental illness unfortunately relate to that. We just want to be “normal.” ❤
Wow this is incredible. Ive heard good things about anti inflammatory diet but I think I want to step it up a notch h on my healing journey. Thank you for this valuable information ❤
Lauren, you are a wonderful interview host. There are several very popular psychology hosts who interrupt so horribly l cannot bear to listen as the speaker never gets a cogent full thought out. You excel at what you do. You are a very graceful and articulate human being.
YES! Finally! This was amazing. And yes. A ketogenic diet has been 100% better for my depression and anxiety. I still take a 75mg Effexor daily, but that is a far cry from the nearly hospitalized me (kept out only under the knowledge of the total lack of autonomy I would have had if I were admitted). 😣
Super interesting interview! I was diagnosed at birth with phenylketonuria, a metabolic disorder of a specific amino acid and then with schizoaffective recently. I’d be interested to see more research covering this!! Thank you Lauren!
So powerful, Dr Palmer is a miraculous human being
This was so good. Can't wait to share it with my mom who benefited so much from these interventions. Dr. Palmer has a great interview on Dax Shepard's podcast where he shares his experience with his mom's schizophrenia symptoms. His vulnerabilty and authenticity is very touching and made me feel seen. Thank you so much for bringing him on your channel!!
Didnt know his mom has schizophrenia
I am thrilled to hear this intellectually satisfying explanation, eons beyond the ancient approach of symptom-reducing-psychiatry.
THANK YOU Living Well with Schizophrenia ⭐
You are a great dynamic duo! Thank you for the research shared in a easy to understand way
Thank you. This is so helpful. Blessings to you both. 🙏🏽♥️🙏🏽
Thank you for bringing up ED s. I want to see more of these conversations in the heath field and in depth discussions too.
thanks Dr Chris Palmer and Lauren that was fascinating and interesting discussion on some innovative approaches to sufferers and carers alike with advice.
This was a GREAT interview! I remain optimistic about this approach and what additional studies may reveal about it as a treatment option. Thank you so much for all you do for the mental health community with your channel. ❤
Best video on mental illness that I have ever seen!
One that brings some real insight on a biological level and a lot of hope for a future with really effective strategies to mitigate these mental disorders!!!
As someone with insulin resistance who tried all the diets he talks about which were also recommended by my endocrinologist and diabetologist I can tell you it's not that simple - no change in my insulin resistance / glucose tolerance even after months of dieting. The only thing it did is cause me to have an ED relapse and poorer quality of life.
also don't even get me started on the chemical imbalance theory scam we've been fed
Are you fasting? You definitely should try. I changed my diet and it wasn’t enough. I had to fast as well.
@@velocitygirl8551 I can't. I am prone to severe hypoglycemia and if I don't eat for a few hours I get delirious, weak and unable to function.
Find a low carb dieticians with a good reputation or a low carb doc or a nutritional/metabolic psychiatrist
Carnivore diet/lifestyle
Mine was trama an great veido right on time I can't wait to do this. Finally a cure for my disorder schizophrenia:) 😌 God is good 🥰
I have a genetic metabolic disease and bi polar, so this is incredibly interesting and valuable to me. Thank you ❤
Phenomenal interview
This was another amazing video! Thank you - we will definitely be looking into this research more for our son!
Thanks to both of you!
I have paranoid schizophrenia but I rarely ever experience hallucinations. I heard that keto diet is supposed to help with schizophrenia symptoms and I tried it few times but every time I go on that diet I started having hallucinations (which I never experienced on ‘classic’ diet), fears(especially at night) and just feeling strange. Idk if I’m like a specific case or what but ketogenic diet makes my schizophrenia symptoms worse. I do take CBD oil and that really helps me a lot just to add that here.
Right around the middle of the video, he discusses why your symptoms might get worse. Maybe that's what is happening?
@@rebeccac.1758 maybe, he referred it as ‘keto flu’. I only did it for a week, couldn’t go on longer. Maybe I should have given it time. But it’s a very hard diet to follow, and especially when I experience things like hallucinations that I normally never experience on a classic diet. Idk, at the moment I’m feeling quite okay, maybe in the future I will try keto again idk.
well this isn't some scientific break through nor is there good evidence that this works. this guy is in a lot of videos here promoting his book.
First two weeks transitioning to diet can be rough. That's why I believe he recommends committing to 3 months of the diet to assess if it's working well or not.
Ummm weed is a bad idea, it worsens symptoms
Wow, amazing HOPE ....would be wonderful to follow your journey doing KETO under DR Palmer's supervision ....blessings xo
Thank you so much for sharing. I have gone through depression for two whole years but now I don’t have it anymore and I love when you post about mental health for everyone.
Yeah your depression went away you got lucky schizophrenia never goes away and you have a whole system that doesn’t have an incentive to cure you only treat you like a sub human the rest of your life
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How depression manifest in you? I hope you are ok now😊
Thanks for the amazing video once again! More of this please!
I love this so much! I have seen Dr Palmer interviewed before, and I think his work is so fascinating. I have some physical health issues that prevent me from going full ketogenic, but I do find that when I'm eating in a balanced way that makes me feel good in my body, my own mental health symptoms improve significantly.
Off topic, but it’s interesting that Lauren’s blink rate is off the charts! One study suggests that frequent blinking indicates disengagement. I wonder if you remember, Lauren, whether you were having any particular trouble focusing on what your guest was saying in this recording? 🤔🤓 Great video content, either way!!! Thank you so much.❤
Dry eyes are a reason for more blinking like this too
My mental health nurse told me to change my thoughts which in turn would change the chemicals in my body and how I feel. This has been a helpful tool alongside medication, little stress and lots of sleep. I probably need to look at my diet better and see if any changes can help there too.
Renewing the mind said GOD AMEN - learn the supernatural verses - print them memorize them speak them out loud /& Christian music yes!!
@@tamzar2440 I have been a Christian for the last 5 years and yes God and His scripture helps too 🙏
@@tamzar2440supernatural verses?
Very true . Every ancient religion teaches this , and why meditation is crucial .
The ego is a paranoid Android
Thank you Dr Chris Palmer for sharing. Your book. It must be good .
Thank you for this fascinating discussion!
Best interview I have ever watched on mental illness!
My Brain Energy book just came in the mail... now... so excited for this video! 🤗
Lauren, have you tried the keto diet again? Can you please make a follow up video?
This was awesome. Thanks for introducing me.
I just purchased his book. I’m so excited to read it:-) thank you!
This is awesome! Extremely interesting.
My daughter has had an elevated WBC count for years. She’s seen 2 hematologists, blood sent to Mayo. No cancer cells. She was diagnosed with schizophrenia about 10 years ago, managed on meds alll that time. 4weeks ago psychosis hit and she is currently hospitalized. Of course I’ve been reading everything I can get my hands on. The more recent studies are showing a correlation between the immune system and schizophrenia. I’m wondering if that’s been the problem all along???? I’m just so worried about her and am not sure what to do at all! Your videos are informative, so thank you.
Oh my gut! This interview gave me a lot of hope for a better future. Will the book be translateted in Dutch?
I hope all this turns out to be more simple than we thought so everyone can get better
brilliant video lauren!
I do know my son was doing better when his diet was healthy. The gut is very important to mental health . For everything.
Very interesting ❤
Interesting discussion! May pick up the book for more information.
I have been trying keto, but honestly my mood feels better when I eat carbs. Carbs help soften my thoughts. I feel hard and flat without them. But I will keep persevering with keto for weight and diabetes management.
Carbs create feel good hormones in your brain (at this minute I can't remember the exact way), but red meat provides Tryptophan which creates Seretonin. So if your keto includes fatty red meat then it will end up doing the same thing that carbs do. Good luck ❤
I’d like to know if you’ll take his advice Lauren and IF YES … I’d love to know how this affects YOU & how long it takes?! 1-2 years???
The typical commitment is a 3 month commitment to know if the diet is working well for you or not. While measuring ketones and making sure you are in an adequate level of ketosis
Like Dr Chris Palmer says, my hallucinations went away first and then delusions
THAT IS GREAT 👍 👌 👏 😀
Great interview.
AWESOME ❤
Awesome video! This is really gonna help a lot of people (myself included)
This is truly amazing. Stop the focus on phy mds only. Let’s try exercise and Keto type diet first thing instead of assuming everyone needs phy mds. Some people need and do well on mds. Some people are negatively affected by phy mds and are not helped by them. Some people manage there mental health with diet, exercise, vitamins, sunlight exposure and dare I say when I have anxiety attacks which is less common I use CBD and THC edibles to calm attacks without the side affects of anxiety mds. Iam not saying my method would work for anyone else but for me it is very effective when used with the other things I talked about
Yes now you've come to the right place
My son has been diagnosed as bi polar, schizophrenia, etc. He has horrible time eating and sleeping. He's always been so sensitive. And constipated. It makes him so angry.
Has he tried going carnivore?
Gonna have to wait to watch this when I have more time to give it the time it deserves. Though as I'm on my first anti psychotic, and am having interesting effects from that
Have metabolic disorders ❤❤
Hhh
I'm suffering from multiple Sclerosis and at night my leg always hurts me it disturb my sleep.
Thank you for this. I hoped you would've brought up antipsychotic medication and their effects on metabolism and if things like a keto diet can help in reducing the changes from the meds.
She covers that a few videos back with Dr Tracey Marks in video titled "why do antipsychotics make you gain weight?"
Interesting. I'm in a fourth year university course about sociology of the body. So there is a mix of sociology, study of social conditions and human behaviour, and a study of science - biology, genetics, statistics.
My question is, from a critical standpoint, how the ketogenic diet or fasting diet improves mitochondrial function and why role those mitochondrial functions have in schizophrenic symptoms? More specifically, how do schizophrenic mitochondria function more generally, and what is the causal relationship between their current function and the neurological and behavioural outcomes?
It's important to really dig into the fine details because psychological disorders are not just biology but also triggered, exacerbated, or managed in terms of social conditions. He did mention sleep, sunshine and routines. He also mentioned wealth - his patient who had access to vast ranges of other treatments was notably receptive to ketogenic treatment. Okay, remarkable, but not a convincing example from a scientific standpoint as there was a presence of other treatments occurring such as psychotherapy, which may or may not be credible for some changes.
His argument regarding epilepsy, while interesting, is not convincing either, in my opinion. While the fact that ketogenic diets are effective interventions for epilepsy, indicating the diet has a potential to produce biological changes to a persons health, that does not mean it is effective for schizophrenia. If we are going to look at diet and epilepsy, we likely need to investigate the function of the diet on the body in scientific terms and cross reference it between epilepsy and schizophrenia.
Lastly, he talks about epigenetics. Awesome. Genetic research is not infallible research either, although it is VERY cutting edge. When it comes to gene editing, through behaviour, that would be more of a coevolutiinary adaptation than a genetic modification. We need to understand how the behaviour of the patient is related to their environment and how those two components produce an adaptation that promotes recovery.
Now I will note I am NOT a scientist nor sociologist. But my experience in school has taught me to tease out these finer details to excavate fallacy from fact.
I would love to see our interviewee explain the research question, method, research findings. Not just anecdotal from his practice or musings about another seperate illness.
Overall this is a fantastic video and I'm curious to know more. I struggle with mental illnesses myself but nothing in the D class, however, I do have a personal interest in understanding neurology to treat me own mental illness and disability, so anything about mental illness and neurology is appealing to me.
What about NRT? If someone is trying to quit smoking, what would be the effects of NRT/should someone get off of NRT as quickly as possible if they’re looking to heal metabolic disorders or mental health disorders driven by metabolic dysfunction? (Eg NRT such as nicotine patches, gum)
The medical ketogenic diet is not easy. I wish the best to all who try it. But it is worth the effort. We all need a healthy mitochondria revolution.
MCT oil really helps
29:30 - why isn't nutrition taken more seriously = profitability considerations? Relating disorders to metabolism and holistic care gives me hope for (everyone's) loved ones who are coping. I would love to see support clinics/retreats open in Ontario/Canada.
How can I get resources to help with medical keto ?
Cancer as well
Our Grand Daughter has lived with anxiety since puberty. She is married and has two kids and works full time for a very understanding corporation/union. ANYTHING especially if it has NOTHING to do with being a new medication would be a "Godsend". She needs STABILITY. A steady ROUTINE that doesn't change.
I really appreciate the way both of you articulate. I am not a native English, so it is a real pleasure for me not to make any effort to grasp your discussion lol
I always thought it was too much blood to the pre frontal cortex of the brain which sometimes push the neurotransmitters out of their proper position affecting the release of dopamine which can cause auditory hallucinations at certain times. An old friend of mine who had schizophrenia told me that methamphetamine would actually make the voices go away for a time.But would come back in full force once the effects of the drug wore off.Obviously a correlation between the rush of dopamine and the way the molecule attached to the neurotransmitters.
stress reduction as a fixable thing filling your time from a to b reducing stress then exerceing what will warm your body eliminate STRESS
= ()()---- tia chi giving yourself a definition makes a world diference.
Can keto diet help with Oculogyric Crisis due to side effects of meds?
I had schizophrenia for several years and my recovery is so complete that it would be easy to think that I never had it in the first place. There are reasons to see that is not the case but I find that people are just uninterested since I did not become a problem even though I had the to potential to be a serious problem. No one seems to care as long as it doesn't affect them. I didn't even know what it was that I had until I had recovered significantly because the doctor and the people there in Chicago never told me what my problem was. They just gave me the ultimatum to take the medication or go home to New Jersey. Since I chose to go back home to New Jersey I never took the medication and yet I still didn't know what my problem was. I was still schizophrenic in New Jersey when I was working at Six Flags Great Adventure. I was hallucinating as I was guiding passengers into the roller coaster. I was hallucinating when I was on break. I was not taking drugs. I was hallucinating 24/7. I could go on talking about my symptoms but they were all typical symptoms. When I was in psychosis my pupils were dilating wildly which is typical of people who lie or believe lies and tell lies. It's just that my pupils were visibly dilating wildly. To make a long story short, I had to stop believing in my hallucinations and delusions for the sake of my sanity and it worked. I ignored all of my symptoms and it worked and I have never had a relapse, not even after 35 or more years. I retired after working 30 years at a high security airport and I would like to help others but people are just not interested. I don't expect anyone to care. You would think that in order to learn how to cure, completely cure schizophrenia, the doctors would want to talk to someone who has had a complete recovery. I knew what it was to be normal and then I knew what it was to be tormented and totally powerless to make it go away. Then I learned how to become normal again without medication or counseling. My counseling was totally internal. I had to trust my own delusional mind more than the mind of the doctors. They simply don't like that.
GOD BLESS THIS DR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! & all of you ❤💯💯💯💯💯💯
I have schizophrenia and I want to say the Lord has helped me more than meds and therapy
Yeah, Sure...
Our Anchor, our counselor our rock 🙌🏻
Can you share how God's helped you?
@@sarahnicole181 prayer
I'm curious to know what happens in our bodies if we skip meds on weekends. Obviously depends on what medication but what if the half-life is 72 hours or so? Would there be an impact there?
Does he have a referral network of psychiatrists that will work with diet as well as medicine?
With the combination of meds,self care,support system,therapy,diet, mental health illness can be managed
Sometimes.
I have had schizophrenia since I was 14. Although I don't have paranoid type. But I am prone to chronic anxiety.
I also have a body type that is a true Mesomorph. Because of the natural high presence of muscles that are still present at 53 yesrs old, my natural diet was high protein and iron but I require a slightly higher level of carbs than the average person.
This was fine until I went on Seroquel, went from weighing 124 lbs at 5 feet with a 22 inch waist that I naturally had.
Now I have a 42 inch waist and weigh 189lbs.
I quickly developed fatty liver disease and was placed on a fatty liver disease diet. It is high protein, low carb, no breads or grains and only some fruits.
I was able to stop gaining weight but couldn't lose weight either. And I had a daily calorie intake of 800 to 1100 calories per day.
I was active as I always had been, but couldn't lose weight. My liver did improve somewhat but I still had fatty liver disease because I was taking 300 to 400 mg of Seroquel XR.
Here's the thing, my anxiety got worse and worse. I have many tools in my toolbox but I found my anxiety really had gotten worse on this fatty liver diet.
After doing a tonne of research I realized that serotonin is produced in the stomach. Not only does Seroquel effects your stomachs ability to function properly, you require carbs for your stomach to create, maintain and regulate healthy serotonin levels.
So I increased my carb intake with healthy carbs (not these high ruffage based cards that have very little available carbohydrate value).
Within a matter of weeks my moods stabilized mostly because I didn't feel like a massive stress ball. And my anxiety levels dropped dramatically. I still have some low level anxiety but it is more manageable and I am in general happier. And I slept better with less bouts of insomnia.
More importantly I was able to go off my Lamogrigine and Trazodon (spelling?) Both of these medications have many side effects and Trazodone interactions with a huge list of medications.
I was also able to lower my Seroquel done to 200 mg XR.
But I had to cut back in other areas of my diet to keep it right at 800 calories. I couldn't go up to 1100 calories or the pounds just started packing back on.
The way I compensated was by eating rare beef steaks.
You really don't need the same quantity of other meat or protein (lentils etc.) To get a high does of protein, B12 and fatty acids thus lower calories with beef.
This kept me in my calorie range of 800 calories and my weight went back down to 185-189lbs.
I do and always eaten a lot of eggs, minus the bacon and oatmeal (or barley unrolled) are one of the few grains I eat.
I am not so sure of thinking a keto diet or carnivore diet is the magic bullet to treat schizophrenia.
First, there is your body type and then there's other factors like if you also have chronic anxiety.
The original fatty liver diet I was on totally agitated my anxiety as the carb intake was too low for my mental state and the amount of energy I needed to supply the muscle on my body.
I don't think there's a one size fits all solution.
My understanding is schizophrenia is a wiring issue. Neurologist have stated our brains are much more like someone who has epilepsy than a chemical imbalance of bipolar disorder and mood disorders.
Meaning, I don't think people wuth schizophrenia all have the same set of biological factors, we may have similar structures to our brains. But body type, hormones, and other factors seem to not be a crucial factor.
Anyway, I wouldn't discourage someone from talking with their doctor or psychiatrist about trying various diets to see if it helps.
But honestly, I think it may or may not work or may only help with secondary or other symptoms that are not necessarily a marker only foubd in schizophrenia.
Does keto genic diet help sezeirs following head injuries
QUESTION: It seems like high cholesterol would be a byproduct of the diet; how does the doctor feel about fish oil to raise good cholesterol and reduce bad cholesterol? Unfortunately, it seems like it takes an enormous amount of fish oil to have a measurable effect -- is that accurate?
They need some good controlled studies on the ketogenic diet. I’d like to know how a ketogenic works for normal weight people since it causes people to lose weight.
I’ve heard him saying the randomized controlled trials are in progress and that the results are promising. Medical keto is much higher in fats than a traditional weight loss keto it sounds like.
Wow, fascinating! At 29:23 you ask why nutrition isn’t talked about more or taken more seriously. Because diet doesn’t make the big pharmaceutical companies any money. They make money off of getting more people using their drugs, so it doesn’t pay to tell people they can improve just by changing their diets.
yes, people think too that it is too simple, sometimes the simplest solutions are the best, but even a pleb like me can understand this
Interesting video...
Look into spirit release therapy, either with a trained hypnotist, or a spirit release team. Some people do not have to live with schizophrenia. The medical profession doesn’t acknowledge this approach, but I’ve seen it work
The medical keto diet has been proven to help schizophrenia, but that's different than the keto diet people do for weight loss. That was an important distinction he didn't make. if you want to try the keto diet for schizophrenia, you can't just google keto recipes or anything. You have to do the specific medical keto diet- and be warned it's really gross. Lots and lots of fat but it's just plain fat like mayonnaise or oil.
that explains a lot
Like many things in medicine, there are different doses for different therapies. There are many intricacies to the implementation of the treatment plan, but in general for schizophrenics who are obese, often cutting carbs to 0-20 is sufficient to get a therapeutic effect. The weight loss really drives up the ketones. For others who are closer to an ideal weight they might perhaps start at a 2:1 fat-to-protein/carb ratio which can even be achieved without weighing and measuring food (IE the Modified Atkins diet) and that can be a sufficient therapeutic intervention for those with BP2 and Schizo. I have seen Dr. Palmer recommending starting at 2:1 for 3 months and seeing if the dose needs to be titrated up or down.
I have his Book… now just getting my sister to go on this diet …. Almost impossible….😢
Does anyone know of anything helpful with memory and concentration? This is my first time working as a medical assistant and I'm having trouble with these things in my externship. Thanks
Not sure about curing schizophrenia or bipolar disorder but as a registered dietitian a ketogenic diet can stop seizures from occuring.
Yep, known for over 100 years
Fascinating right?
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