POWER RANKING: NA LCS SPRING 2018
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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0:40 TSM
2:35 TL
4:45 CLG
6:47 C9
9:52 Clutch Gaming
12:15 100 Thieves
14:25 Echo Fox
16:30 FlyQuest
18:26 Golden Guardians
20:22 OpTic Gaming
Ben Gentry ty
this man needs more upvotes
echo fox should be much highere and golden guardians the worst
lol putting Echo Fox so low. I ranked them nr 1. I'm literally god!!
Did no one notice he has a human geodude playing on the tv in the beginning?
You wanna explain that background footage?
lol
SKT T1 Kappa
Are you trying to say that you use his stream as fapping material?
Tyler1 in the background lol
lol ya
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I honestly support TSM for Bjerg. Wherever he goes I’ll go, no matter where the hype is around.
Archton i feel bad for him, hes always performing well, literally every game, but some players on his team fuck it up for him
FJG 93 yeah but he doesn’t show to complain about it and that’s what I love about his character.
I dont think bjerg will ever leave tsm unless he gets alot of money from another team, he retires or he gets replaced(never think its gonna happen though)
Looks like you’re a TL fan now buddy
One hour he said Kappa
Lol its fine I enjoy the NA LCS and OfflineTV content thanks Mark
Adrian Dardoch huni lmao this will be aggressive
Great video Mark. Love the analysis and you can tell you've kept up with all the background noise like twitlonger and rumors that can provide some insight, while still basing your analysis on what facts you have.
Honestly 100 thieves roster looks nasty. I think if they click they could be top 3
just hope that meteos wouldn't int
Actually, I think 100 thieves roster looks like a bunch of players that used to be good and now are just there for the paycheck. I would put them 9th in my power rankings.
Very hit or miss type of team. Could be top 3, but also might not even make playoffs
Prob not top three but maybe top 4-6 if they play alright as there are other good teams (TSM, TL, C9, CLG)
finally
Probably as interesting of a power rankings video as anyone could ask for. Great to see you putting out a video of power rankings before the season because comparing after the split is over is fun. Keep it up and good luck on the analyst desk!
I love the breakdown. It’s like watching ESPN preview. I love details. Gets me hyped. Keep it up!!
I've missed you
Senpai noticed you
This next split is going to be really interesting with all the new teams and rosters
100 thieves are my favorite team so far, Cody is such a good player
So I was almost right. My top 4 is in top 5. 100 thieves above TSM. Still proud of my rankings, GG.
one mistake , huni is the best individual top laner in NA not hauntzer
You are by far my favourite/favorite league of legends content provider and one of the best if not the best at what you do
Optic seems really low on this list... I don't think they'll be THAT bad
Someone has to be lowest..
Would've put them above GGs at least
Everyone but Poe was on the lowest teams last split, and not even the good ones on their teams.
Jonny Bamberg you're saying Poe isnt as good as some ppl think 😊?
S. S. A. Exactly
I really hope TSM doesn’t look past the NA splits and only focus on international. This season every team is stacked and it’s gonna be pretty difficult to secure a split
If c9 would have signed huni
Only if contratz didn't leave...
CrassKewer if they would have signed rush...
If only it turns out they're fine
The idea that Huni isnt going to make playoffs just seems absurd. And 100T is going to stomp Clutch.
I love you mark
Psyrek I love your profile picture
Wendy thank you 😊
YES CONTENT FROM THE ONE AND ONLY THEEMARKZ
It's the battle of the EU mid laners this year!
Mark, a few years ago I hated you but over the years you've won my respect and admiration. But today, you went over the top and you can now consider me a fan. Using T1's stream as a placeholder is fantastic. LOL
Oh and your analysis is spot on too (imho).
The thumbnail rankings and also tyler1 in background? Good shit mark lmao
lol this was filmed like 3 hours ago
I'm all caught up and ready for lcs to start thanks mark.
LCS Looking great this year.Unlike EU there are so many teams that are close to each other,where in EU there are 3-4 powerhouses (Fnatic,H2K,Misfits and UOL).This will be a great year to watch.
If mike yeung becomes a passive ward bot then the tsm rumors are true and that is tsm neuters their junglers.
Underestimating the HAI factor! A BIG MISTAKE
Glad to see CG is in the top half of the rankings. I agree with your rankings from top to bottom.
When he said Licorice struggle in the challenger series final but the second c9 game he was 7/0 lol
I see CLG as a wild card, Many dont see a good shot caller in that team now that Aphro is gone but if they find one in bio or reignover or someone else steps up and takes on what aphro did then that could make them a top 2 team. And if BIo and Stixxay can work well together as they are both rookies who previous duo partners were big time veterans who guided them
I honestly think Sven is an upgrade from contractz.
Only problem i see with him is communication issues, which is why i think he tended to "int" often. it can be solved. He can easily be a top 2 jungler in NA. He is worlds caliber when doing well, so yea i see people underrating him. C9 will do good and shine in playoffs and my guess is it's gonna be a C9 and TSM finals yet again ^^ haha.. maybe not but i see history eventually repeating itself in those regards. I'm not too sold on the TL hype and i rate C9 higher than TL
marz great video!! for real great video!
if its of any help, you lost me at clutch gaming was a lil boring, but when 100thieves came it was cool again til the end
Really interesting video Mark! In my opinion, as a Dutch Lol player, Febiven might struggle at first dealing with harsher critique, but will in the end show up as one of the top mid laners. Being Dutch you don't really grow up being told what not to do, so without some balance of power, egoes might go unchecked, but it is without a doubt he has talent. So hyped for NA LCS, EU LCS is kinda dead anyway lol
I think you may have over-estimated Cloud 9's bottom half of the map, but we'll see! Great video.
If you're curious for the last years Power Ranking :
1º - C9
2º - TSM
3º - Dignitas
4º - CLG
5º - TL
6º - P1
7º - IMT
8º - Flyquest (was still c9c)
9º - Echo Fox
10º - EnVyUs
Trade Dig with IMT and it seems quite ok
So, watching this now, hearing Mark say that Hakuho and Apollo have no "raw carry potential" makes me physically laugh
NA best team to rep it at worlds IMO would be
TOP LANE - IMPACT/HAUNTZER
MID LANE - BJERG
SUPPORT - AMPHROMOO
ADC - DOUBLELIFT/IMAQTPIE
JUNGLE - REIGNOVER
NA best shot to win worlds right thur lol If you could choose a best 5 to represent NA who would you pick similar to mine?
1) TSM: I'm a lot less hyped about this roster than a lot of people. G2 struggled a bit when they first got Zven/Mithy so I don't know if they're going to be strong straight out of the gate. And having replaced two fairly popular players in DL/BF, they're going to be expected to perform out of the gate. If they don't perform, they and TSM are going to get hard flamed. If they can recover from the flame, work out synergy, then they might have a chance to make a comeback and fight for 1st place in playoffs. If it was any other team than TSM I'd have a lot more faith in their ability to recover but playing for TSM and not performing is just an entirely different degree of pressure from fans.
Plus, I don't know why and to be fair I don't really follow EULCS, but G2 has always had the image of the team that kind of slacks off in the regular season and pulls it together for playoffs. If Zven/Mithy show any of that at all, that's not going to sit well with Grindlord Bjergsen not to mention their fans.
I think MikeYeung will at the very least be decent and a middle of the pack jungler who occasionally performs well (he's a rookie so I don't expect consistent highs from him).
However, they did upgrade their coaching staff, which I think was the weakest part of their former roster. No shade to Parth, he did his best but its hard to be assertive and demand the respect required to lead a team when the owner of the org has 0 faith in your abilities as a coach and is constantly undermining you and inserting himself in rather than giving you an opportunity to do your job. Hopefully they got the new coach because Regi actual thinks he'll do well and will let the coach (yes I forgot his name) actually do his job.
2) TL: If Impact synergizes with the rest of the team well, I think they'll be fine. He's never been a super resource intensive top laner anyway and he's always been willing to sacrifice for the team so I see no reason why they wouldn't outside of personal differences. I am a little concerned about Olleh's support pool, but IMT might have just placed so much value on having him on play making supports to put him on the likes of Karma and stuff. The rest of the team has already proven to have some degree of success playing with each other so that should be fine. Honestly, as long as the coaching staff of this team is semi decent I think they'll perform
3) CLG: I just have no idea who on this team can shotcall/be a dominant voice.
4) C9: While they did downgrade the topside of the map, the bot/mid side is still the same so while I think they'll be worse than last year they won't do that poorly. I'd probably put them at third out of the gate but I just feel like whether or not they remain at third will more depend on if other other teams collapse/pull it together than on C9's improvements.
5-) Does anyone really care past top 4?
I'm actually super not hyped about LCS this year. If LCK is any indication were going to have Fleet Footwork/Overheal/Targons farmfest bot lanes with a bunch of scaling shit in the other roles and end up with slow ass games with like 10 kills at 30 minutes. Sounds boring as shit
Feel like TSM in top 3 is the only guarantee for this season, the rest is like "well maybe they could be really good but maybe they'll flop" I think this power ranking is a really good evaluation of each team's skill floor which is usually the most accurate way to guess how the season will go :)
This did not age well
i don't know about the order in those 3 last teams. Flyquest to me sounds like a clear last place and Optic have some potential and should place over golden guardians. I guess we will see soon enough. Will you and Scarra still stream after every lcs?
19:51 shoutout to the double tp
"There are more Shernfire things going on in the other teams" 14:19 Great Roast
Havent heard of this "gsen" midlaner
tbh even, as a c9 fan, i think c9's offseason moves were absolutely horrid and i completely agree with you Mark, even though inside I feel so triggered
Pat Zhang huh el contracto was good but i am sure and i really hope sven will do fine. Top lane want reaally really bad. Licorice is i remeber correclty got shit on by Lorlo. Yes you read right Lorlo, possibily the S7 worst top laner
Soul Immoral um?...
M Inertia hehe xd expectations were low this time he stomped on lourlo. His smile at the end of day 2 made my day. C9 Top 3 for sure this split
I've waited so long for this
MISSED MY FAVOURITE cynical boi. good to have ya back
Loved your analysis
In order of placement. Echo Fox, TSM, Team Liquid, C9.
echo fox can do well, but they have some crazy personalities etc. on their team, I like their talent, but i' not too sold
Last time I was this early Mark still had a chance at a music career
I'm surprised you didn't make the note that kayn actually coached rox tigers when they went to semi finals. I think kayn is going to be a huge positive for TL heading into NA regular season.
Ayeeee he is back let's gooo
I wish there were some pics of people being referenced here n there throughout the talk.
I don't even know what Omar God looks like. That aside, really good coverage and reasoning for your teir list.
when echo fox is at the top on the thumbnail.Seems that prediction was right lul
Tyler one is the main sponsor of this show. Hahah (background screen)
Love the vid and the content was on point, I was wondering doe, if you and ur housemates could upload more on offline TV.
Good shit Mark, love the content
I can't wait to see Fenix in LCS again
The stats are from Gamepedia, not esportswikis.
TL reminds me of the card game chicago, everytime they don't get anything good they just throw it into the scrap pile and get 5 new cards. Hopefully they'll get something good soon so they can get some points and have a chance on winning the game.
I would swap EF and 100T, and maybe FlyQuest and GG as well. Fly is a roaming mid with nowhere to roam to.
My most clear impression from the bottom 5 teams is that any one of them would've been dramatically improved with Froggen in their lineup, maybe even Clutch as well.
Hey mark what mic do you use?
Pretty close to my Predictions
1. TSM
2. Liquid
3. CLG
4. C9
5. Echo Fox
6. 100 Thieves
7. Clutch
8. FlyQuest
9. Optic
10. Golden Guardians
I think top 4 is hard to argue with. 5th, 6th 7th teams order is debatable in order. And 8th, 9th, 10th hard to argue they will be above bottom 3 but the order is debatable.
Great video, really enjoyed it!
Clutch Gaming Roster's names can make the acronym "F.L.A.S.H" 100Thieves is "S.C.R.A.M"
I think C9 will impress. People have been underestimating Svenskeren for way too long.
Mark can't wait to see you cast again :)
Hey this is bit of an unrelated question, but I'd like to know if you would be open to doing more Overwatch content in the near future? I liked the video on the spectator issues earlier but not sure how into Overwatch esports you are.
I feel like this split is going to be the closest in a while... I don't see any particularly awful teams, only some sketchy ones
Thumbs up for the Tyler1 footage. Good to see u back
Can you do a NA CS 2018 Power Ranking? I think it would be interesting to see your thoughts on the academy teams.
I still think dropping Contractz for Svenskeren was a mistake, but we'll see.
Why is it that Golden Guardians don't start Xpecial instead of Matt? It just seems like Xpecial would be a lot better in this specific scenario. Matt never had to carry a lane before except when Piglet went mid and we all saw how that went.
Pro- Gall Xpecial is older, they want to train younger players like Matt.I believe if they will struggle they will start Xpecial.
Alex Manole I think that you have good points, but at the same time I think that a stronger point could be made that Xpecial is more vocal as a player than Matt and would have much better synergy with the young Contractz who, in my opinion, has a way higher ceiling than Matt. Also, I think if they are wanting to invest in young talent, they should be working on Deftly more than Matt because Matt has already proven that he can be a support that you can throw on a tank and be fine.
FKKKK IM SO HYPE FOR THIS LCS, Also someone know why Froggen is not in Echo Fox? And what's he doing?
looking at TL roster for 2k18 I expect them to finish number 1. Doublelift is a fucking insane and he is being paired with Olleh who I think is one of if not thee best support in NA, on top of that you have a veteran jungler and RELIABLE solo laners who might not be a Huni or a Faker or Soren for that matter but they do what they are supposed to, and in this meta that is something to be heralded.
Please join the analysis desk again in 2018, it's always the best with you there :)
I'm pretty surprised nobody picked up Froggen
Everyone is putting OPT last. I think they're 4th or 5th, can't wait to see them go off week 1 and crush 100 theives
Bet you triggered the hell out of Loco with all your "ceiling" and "floor" talk.
I feel like Mark is underestimating Golden Guardians a lot. I feel like they should be seventh, moving everyone above them down one. The rest of the list is pretty solid, but as a biased C9 fan I feel they should be 3rd over CLG.
Everybody sleeping on FlyQuest.
I think there's a misconception about the TSM roster change. People think Bio was kicked for communication, AND people are confused as to why TSM took Mikeyeung. #1 Regi said that it wasn't communication issues, it was that Sven and Bio had bad support-jungle synergy, while individually were very great players. They wanted mithy, took Zven with him, and now they HAD to kick Sven because of import spots. TSM didn't take Mikeyeung because they thought he was an upgrade, they took him because he was the best player available. What other NA jungler was available? The only option is Contractz, but we don't really know much about his situation and it seems(ed) like his current offer was just too much money to match.
Edit: I bet you that TSM very highly considered taking Mithy keeping Sven and DL, so it would be Hauntzer Sven Bjerg DL Mithy as the roster, BUT who knows if Mithy said that he wants Zven with him or if Regi decided that this was not the roster he wanted.
I don't think it was bad getting zven though, he is really fucking good. and ofc the synergy in the bot would allready be there
Lol you seem kinda drunk in this. I love it
You should have started with the 10 team, more suspense to see who is number 1. Personal opinion idk if I’m the majority
Ryu was insane in relagtions.
I think if meteos/ryu don't work out; if 100T can grab ablazeolive from tsm they would be pretty solid. Especially once ABO can get some experience.
the pop its and deodorant stick make me want to believe him
Clutch Gaming over 100 thieves??? That makes zero sense to me. I'd bet my house against that happening.
always been a c9 fanboy ever since hai tried to clutch season 4 worlds, now im nervous...
MarkZ i love your content and how you present, but i would personally upgraded lights and cleaned your surrondings leaving only the laptop and monitor.
I would also place the microphone closer and bring in a breathing filter for that nice clean sound. I know this is expensive but it would increase the quality of the already great content!
No hate, all love.
Nice power ranking of Echo Fox though
Isn't residency status no longer based on years and based on green card status?
Nice predictions! :') Αt least was close enough with the bot 3
Froggen isn't starting for Echo Fox anymore?
Golden Guardians look sick
C9 will surprise everybody. Especially SVENSKEREN. No more walking ward for him as aggresive junglers fit with Jensen.