RTX 4060 in an Office Computer is Kinda Awesome!
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
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Based on the success of the RTX 4060 TI in an OptiPlex video, we are going to test the, even more, power-efficient RTX 4060 in the $359 Amazon PC…is it worth doing? The 4060 Ti actually was very impressive due to its software capabilities in even a 10+ year old office computer. Yes, they’re expensive but in certain use cases they can be quite impressive!
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Bottleneck advice: for nvidia cards if you’re bottlenecked by your CPU go into the nvidia control panel turn on DSR- this turns on dynamic super resolution so even if you have a 1080p monitor it’ll let you play in 4K by running in 4K it ignores the bottleneck of the cpu running at 100% and will put a larger load on the GPU end result you will actually get more fps in 4K it’s really cool if you can’t upgrade your cpu but have a higher end gpu for the time being. DSR is amazing you can simply be on a 1080p 144hz monitor and normally a game will not show 4K as an option but DSR manipulates the game into thinking you have a 4K monitor hooked up. On one of my rigs I threw a 4070 asus tuf oc card into a i7 7700k overclocked the cpu and using DSR I get 144-200fps ultra settings on every game even remnant 2, dead island 2, diablo iv, fortnite - and the game doesn’t need to support DLSS TO USE DSR ! This can buy you more usage out of an older cpu/mobo and still have a really good gaming experience. Some games you may need to run high/medium or low instead of ultra settings if there is no dlss compatibility.
Man this was great advice. I have a 1060 3G paired with a 1225 V3 which should be like a i5-4590 and the bottleneck is huge. I’ll try this later
what percent should i put the sharpeness ?
dude TYSM! I NEEDED this for my p520 build. eliminated the 6.7% bottleneck for gpu intense tasks. not much bottleneck but still noticeable. ty brother 🙏🙏
Did you guys ever think about testing driver overhead on those older cpus? Nvidia VS AMD driver overhead might be interesting.
Great video. Buying an older model office pc and upgrading it to a fast-gaming pc where it can play some modern games is definitely a great way to save money since gaming PCs are pretty expensive. I'm glad I found this channel because I plan on doing the same thing.
I put a 4070 in a Victus 15L. The 500w ps is mor than enough, and the I5 12400 works well with the 4070. The ASUS dual just fits if you stretch the case a little. It goes back fine and the gpu does not run hot. The cpu runs cool for normal gaming, but cinebench heats up the cpu to 86c. I will change out the exhaust fan. You guys should really try this on air, You guys are great. My wife and I watch all of your videos.
Dang maybe I only needed a 500w psu for my 2060 12100f build
You can get away with a 500w ps with a 2060 easily.
While it works id still recommend upgrading it and of course the fans
I still have an i7-7700K and would love to see you guys get one and drop it into this system (if it supports it) and run those games again with the 4060/4060ti. It seems like it would be fairly balanced with those GPU's.
I run a 4070 with overclocked i7 7700k and 32gb ddr4 3600mhz and get excellent performance it was a test rig but I kept it together and it is actually really nice of course it hits 100 percent cpu utilization some games but get 144+ fps ultra settings 1080p/1440p and with dlss 4K runs great.
@@RanFranklin Nice! Thx for letting me know!
@@Viking8888 for sure one thing I would highly recommend is if you run 16gb ram go 32gb at least 3200mhz or 3600mhz many games that are cpu bound heavy seem to use way more ram because of the bottleneck. And make sure your power supply is at least 650 watts I’d recommend 850 watt though so you can overclock the i7 7700k and have no worries about power limits but the card uses only like 200 watts my cpu uses more with the overclock lol 😂
@@RanFranklin I had 32GB 3200 MHz from the get go and I currently have a gold rated 750W EVGA PSU in the case, but I have access to a Seasonic 850W unit if needed. And I just got a totally overkill CPU Cooler through the Amazon Vine program for testing. A Deepcool AK620 Digital. That will be perfect for a nice overclock. 😉
That would probably work well if you put a basic i7 in to replace the low power i5, though the same can still be said for the 2060 that was in it first too.
There are Xeons in that generation that will outperform an I7 and are dirt cheap. Overclocking isn't a concern since the motherboard is locked anyway.
@@Liminal.Headspace
All good too, I just mention an i7 because everyone understands what that is.
@@Liminal.Headspacemore power consumption tho right
@@DengueBurger Actually lower power draw. Some Xeons are meant for raw power, some for efficiency, some for scalability.
its interesting, i7 8th gen cant keeping up with 4060
When your game runs better at 4k than 1080p the CPU is definitely holding you back. Perfect example here of an unbalanced CPU/GPU combo. Jacking up the res makes it GPU bound and the CPU can keep up.
Nice video! I'm surprised the parts pair as well as they do. I just wish the card was either named correctly or was cheaper. I got my 4070 for $510 which was kind of a steal compared to the 4060-ti 16 gb.
When doing this kind of taboo stuff, do include the frametime graph on the msi afterburner. It's more fun that way.
Never thought 4060 and awesome would be in the same sentence
the 4060 is a shit of awesome proportions
This is something I would have done in college. Love it... I remember running diablo 3 on launch day with a dual Xeon system I got for $100 from a programmer who had closets full of them. I slapped a GT 630 in that baby and it gamed... well enough.
You need to put 40-series cards in old workstation PCs with xeons. They have extra cores and are dirt cheap. Don't forget 4060s/tis use 8pcie lanes so you will see some small disparity with PCIe gen 3.0.
you are such a good content creator love ur vids!!!
Hi I’m guessing the 4060 would work decently good
There is honestly no real reason to get a 4060 it is basically the same as a 3060 and both are worse than a rx6700xt
@@lordgong4980did you know that the 4060 performs the same as a 2070 Super?
@@lordgong4980there is for new pc builders. It costs 20 bucks more than 3060 and gets about 20 percent better performance and fps. The 6700xt cost 60 bucks more in my country and requires bigger psu plus 4060 is better at things other than gaming while Rx 6700 xt is just better and focused on gaming.
If you have a 3060 obviously do not even think about getting 4060. For new first time pc players on a budget the 4060 ain’t that bad with a lower psu
It's a more expensive renamed 4050.
@@jonpeley I remember people said the same thing about 8gb 3060 lol
Great video! Thank you for experimenting with different setups to show us what is possible.
Hello Toasty Bros I posted this on the last video and I will continue doing so until you respond, love your videos and as someone who is too young probably (11) and needing to save money, I was wondering if for a video you guys could do this Bing AI made pc. The parts are listed below and I hope you can compare with something around the same price range.
Building a gaming PC for $300 can be challenging, but it is possible. Here is a list of components that you can use to build a gaming PC for under $300:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G APU
Motherboard: ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0
RAM: Patriot Viper 4 8GB DDR4 3000MHz
Storage: Kingston A400 240GB SSD
Power Supply: EVGA 500 W1, 80+ WHITE 500W
This build will allow you to play most games on lower settings on a 1080P monitor. The Ryzen 3 3200G APU has decent integrated graphics built into it that can handle most games out there on at least minimum settings1. I hope that helps!
If this gets attention know that I am interested with tech stuff and when I see something I want to work on, I usually spend long amounts of time racking up the money for it.
Thank You!
Ignore the words, don't watch fps numbers and you will see some solid performance.
Games running normally.
If you get one of these newer cards for free you can revive old pc without spending any money.
I'd be interested in this 4060 with the xeon w2135 lenovo pc yall did a while back
Great video!
now i want to see a 4090 in a optiplex just to see how well that would work.
I dont think 4090 can even fit in Optiplex cases xD
There's no point, the CPU is bottlenecking the 4060
4060 is 100watts above? My GOD! I think my electricity bill will cry a lot.
Sir iam using only pentium g4560 give idea what should better GPU i will use for streaming,Thanks More power
You need a better cpu my guy.
This is the kinds shiz that Nvidia needed to advertise. Rather than try to make some bs performance claims they should have lowered the pricing and focused on efficiency cause damn are they crazy powerful for the low power draw
Here is why I kind of what to do this: I have a OptiPlex with a i5-9500 and a GTX 1650 Super. Would throwing in a 4060 be a decent upgrade or would it not be worth the money?
Note that for cyberpunk 10:10 it’s usually running around 100% cpu utilization vs 50% GPU utilization so you’re totally bottlenecked by the CPU.
The reason high performance looks worse and the same result is because high performance mode taxes the cpu instead of the gpu
I’ve always wondered what you guys do with all the pc’s y’all build. So i was wondering if maybe i can purchase 1 from you guys. I really want a pc in order to start my streaming career but im held back by the prices for even a mid-level pc. But anyways love the videos❤️keep it up🎉
4th generation Intel processors was the last generational improvement that made sense until 8th gen. Mainly because AMD wasn't in the picture
Thanks!
4K works better bc the cpu is bottlenecking, upgrading the resolution means more load on the gpu instead of the cpu. in the beginning of cyberpunk the gpu was only at 30% while the cpu was at 100. when it got to 4K both gpu and cpu were at 100 taking full advantage of the gpu's capabilities :) so if someone reading this is having an issue with fps while having good gpu's benchmark it to see if the cpu is bottlenecking, if it is now yk one possible way of fixing the problem
RTX 4060, 4060Ti are the laughing stocks of GPU's for 2023.
Not really. For a low end card pretty damn good.
4060 is gonna be one of the best selling cards of all time...
4060 is for losers who can't afford a 4080 or 4090.
@@johnrambo13494060 is perfect for low/mid range end gaming rigs. This card is all day better than buying a ps5 or Xbox any-day. But yeah definitely if you have the cash go 70/80 card 4090 is unnecessary right now I have one in my high end rig and a 4070ti in a compact build I did in my living room and you don’t benefit enough for the price diff stand point to get a 90 ….. but yeah get it if you got the cash for sure just go 4090. But if you’re building a budget rig 4060 is coo especially with a i3 or a i5 cpu the dlss3 will get you many years of usage.
@@johnrambo1349 money grows on trees? okay buddy....
I will def upgrade my HP Elitedesk with a 4060 when Low profile version comes out
The i5 6500 is 7.85 years old. Impressive the PCIE bus can still handle it.
Time to put 4060 in my i3 8100 optiplex 3060
That's going to bottleneck the 4060
Want to see a video on i7-7700 and rtx 4060ti,
or even a rtx 4070...
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I run a 4070 asus tuf oc with a i7700k z270 mobo runs great. Wouldn’t recommend a non k 7700 it needs to be overclocked for sure.
@@RanFranklin I just want to make it run for a few months, then will upgrade the cpu+mobo+ram.
Hi from Louisville
Because Ngreedia fanboys keep falling for ads. Ngreedia said frame gen! Fanboys said SOLD! They didn't know frame gen is fake frames and introduces input lag. And it's a software update to a certain extent they could do that for older cards too. They just don't want to.
The card they successed? No one caught that?
it'd be cool to pit an optiplex against a think station if you guys haven't already.
Have a good weekend Toasty Bros.
I always make these types of upgrades, I’ll buy - PC and keep upgrading graphics cards every 2 to3 years for 6 to 7 years
I love it. i was calling it pastel mode
That's what it's for 60 series are for budget balling now what you should do is power supply swap your first i5 6 core PC and see if that 4k performance still holds true I put a 3060ti in a T3620 i7 7700 and 1440p is glorious but seriously try and piece together a 6 core Frankenstein and see what happens with a 4060 it's for science
I bought an MSI trident for $300 that has i5 8400 and GTX 1660, noticed huge performance boost with ,4060 and limited by small PSU. Is it worth me getting 8700 or 9700 i7?
So I have a b460m Wi-Fi VDF motherboard and a i5 10400F. Currently rocking a 1660Ti and I know my motherboard and cpu do not support pcie4. I was thinking the 2060 super as an upgrade but the 4060 is cheaper brand new than used 2060 supers. In my build would you look for the right priced 2000’s series or go for the 4060 on pcie3?
this is only really worth it if you play games that have DLSS 3 because the cpu is so weak. But for games that don't have DLSS 3, you're better off getting an rx 580 or something similar
This probably runs better than my hp victus 😂
waooo interesante el video... seguro que me leyeron mi comentario loco.... de probar esta grafica con un procesador i5 6500.. seria calidad hacer la prueba con el GPU RX 7600 junto con el mismo procesador i5 6500.. para ver que tanto es la diferencia. un gran saludos tostados.. desde venezuela
It would run just fine in my Opti. Not sure about space for it though
The only upsides i can see to the RTX 4060 or recommend to my friends is because:
+ Warranty (for peace of mind, sure the same can be said to some RTX 30 series cards that are still selling out there , NEW❤👍)
+ DLSS 3 (Can come in handy in performance, granted if you have a fast enough CPU to keep up with it 👍)
+ Power Consumption ( based on what i've seen on other youtube channels testing this GPU , it seems to be slightly more power efficient than a RTX 3060 and more comparable to their own RTX 3050
That being said, it's still:
- Embarassingly slow than an RTX 3060 😆😅
- Base RTX 4060 with 8GB VRAM is quickly getting overwhelmed if one plans to play the newest AAA games
- Pricing of the 16GB "Ti" isn't exactly best value or makes sense
It's not slower than a 3060 this was compared already
will work excellent paired with an i5 8500 or i7 8700 optiplex!
proud of ya NVIDIA
Can you sell more Alianware laptops in your store? Its the only website i trust
Unlimited ammo on apex?
1337 pc! Oh wait, and video time 😉
Thanks a lot bro for these
When are you guys going to make a new video
Its not gonna be that different when the cpu is holding it back like crazy
You should throw an i7 6700 in and compare results..
It needs an i7 6700
Again? Bruh thats painful to watch
ha I have a optiplex with a i7 3770 paired with a evga 3060 12gb and can run a high refresh 144hz 1440p
RTX 4060 TI is a really good gpu tbh.
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What cables should you use to connect it to your motherboard
You use the pcie slot use the x16 slot if you have one or x8 if it’s a older mobo then connect the power 8pin or 6+2 pin
4060 is just sipping power, not bad, hopefully there's a big performance with the 5060.
Im sorry but no.
Ill thinkn thats the new style of team green.
Hopefully not on team red too
@@Denniz69 We'll just have to wait & see
@@AlexHusTech For sure but they would not change anything because their selling theyre stuff and so on 🥲
U could see how bad the 3080/ 4070 pricing is => 3080 is 2 years old and the msrp was nearly the same :/
U got 2 years fun for about 100€ more and the same performance without dlss 3 and frame generation.
If i had the chance i grabbed it two years ago 🙂
Now im thinking about staying with my gtx 1660 ti until its dead
@@Denniz69 Yeah first it was the crypto boom now the AI, hopefully things calm down otherwise we'll get the same again in the next gen.
Waiting to see what Amd do with their 7700/7800.
So if I get this can I change the case and and gpu?
YOOOOOOOO
I just put a rtx 4070 in my dell optiplex 9010 check it out 🎉. (Inspired by toasty bros!)
Not surprised at all that a xx50 class card would work well in an office PC, even if it is misnamed and overpriced.
cpu is pinned on 100 percent, a definition of a botleneck
"Oh it's not that bad"
Meanwhile gpu : 60% bottleneck
Can I use a 4060 graphic card with an Ryzen 5pro 3400g with 32gb ram?
Or a 3060
Yes you can. Make sure XMP is enabled for the ram and maybe overclock your cpu a little bit if possible. Also disable the integrated gpu to give it the best fighting chance.
Or a 3060
Or a 3060
@@HUMBLE_JAY yes you can and id recommend getting the 3060 instead
Interesting.
I had to unplug my front bottom usb ports to fit my RX 580 In my HP Prodesk 600g1 tower because i thought it was gonna fit with no issue but I was wrong 😂
damn
7040 4060 vid give or riot in chat but not really.
It's the same as putting a 2070Super. They are literally the same card, or at least they perform the same
2070 could never run cyber punk in 4K, really it’s the software technology of DLSS 3 that makes the 40 series so good. It’s not about the speed, it’s the AI abilities.
@@RanFranklinalso lower power draw
@@bal5007yes I draw like 200 watts with my 4070ti running games in 4K it’s absolutely insane ! Also, the thermals are crazzzzy. People just want a reason to hate because they all over paid for their cards 2020/2021/2022 lol
@@RanFranklin nobody plays 4k
@@raevod6361 nobody plays in 4K ? Haha 😂 ok brokie that’s what 40 series cards are for it’s 2023. Nobody plays in 1080p it’s not 2010. So weird to say no one plays games in 4K resolution just because your rig is out dated-guess I’d lie to myself to if I was running a 2070 still! Haha.
The problem isn't the 4060, it's that I5 6500
The rtx 4050 is not a bad gpu...but i dont know what the hell is nvidia doing selling it at 400$. It should be 250 max.
Huh 🤔 1650 supers were selling for like 400 dollars in 2020/21 why are people crying about this price ? It offers a lot for the price with dlss3 and low power draw. And it’s a 4060 not a 4050
@@RanFranklin so you have been gaming on pc since 2020, isnt It?
@@oscarmetal huh? What?
@@RanFranklin did the 1650 cost 400 In 2019?
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20 Series "16nm - 12nm Prototype Finish GDDR5X to GDDR6 / RT core software mode for CUDA / built in hardware upscaling AI refresh /DLSS for faster tuning off titan" 30 Series "12nm - 8nm refresh off 20series DLSS hardware RT CUDA conversion further and AI built into 30% of chip" 40 Series BECAUSE BRYANNITRO KICKED THEIR ASSES"
4060 good card at wrong price that’s the problem
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waste of 4060 ...
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I have a hp 800g3 sff PC I looking for gpu suggest me good one good price with performance i want decent gaming performance my PC specs is i5 gen6th 512gb sata SSD please reply me
I have a i5-6600k, gtx 1070, 8gb of ram, would upgrading to 16 gb help with performance? I get a lot of stuttering
Yes it will, 16GB is pretty much minimum these days.
A Radeon RX 6800 in a Office Computer is much more awesome!
Is most of the times cheaper, and it is faster.
that card will not run cyberpunk in 4K with this cpu and even on a new cpu will only run cyberpunk at like 30-40 frames per second. It’s only possible because of DLSS3 and that’s what makes the 40 series cards good. This is a xx60 card it doesn’t compete with a 6800 card more like 6600 or 6700 but with dlss3 and better drivers nvidia is a better choice with a older cpu.