Ewan Hill / Fails 6% of the time? That is awful, you cannot say that it works when 6 in every 100 fatal falls result in failure and the person dying, that doesn’t count as working. The product works when it does it’s job consistency, that is not consistent. 6% is huge. I cannot believe you have the cheek to say ‘only 6%’. That is humongous, the product doesn’t work well.
Ewan Hill / Yeah it’s also inconsistent and not worth getting with such a large failure rate. Just buy one that works properly if you care about your elderly relatives.
Look at Jenny's face when he mentioned that he has £17M in the bank lol she is so jealous. We all know that her bank balance is closer to £17 hence why she never invests.
There are no surprises regarding the backgrounds of the entrepreneurs. The Dragons know the business history and criminal backgrounds of everyone beforehand. That's how they determine who they are, what they have, and what questions to ask when cameras are rolling. Sometimes, potential on paper is enough to pique serious Dragon interest, especially if the income is passive with. The Dragon's use strategy, (sometimes collective) and a poker face to get the best deal for themselves, knowing full well they reserve the discretion to back out before contracts are signed.
Jenny buys this product and her children see that she hasn't left the livingroom in 5 hours. Children: mum, you haven't made a movement in the house in 5 hours. Where are you? Jenny: I'm out.
seems daft to me.Jenny made some great points. Imagine thinking/knowing you're responsible for the death of a loved one just because you didn't read a text? or just having the constant stress of this over you. Just makes no sense at all
It’s infinitely less effective than any other solution. It’s a case of somebody taking some tech they find cool and trying to force it into any business they can
@@cr5678 yes he was talking about the fact you cut out the middle man as a good thing where as you are just replacing a specialised 24/7 call handler and doing it yourself when you are possibly asleep or away from your phone, it makes no sense
I mean, she's worth over 50mil but sure, you do you and keep making tired old jokes. You're probably jealous because you won't even make 50k in a year :')
Nicole Oliver I know a billionaire family that you would walk straight past. Only their way of speaking gives away that they come from ‘higher’ circles haha
Arabella // Exactly. Have you ever followed world strongest man? Most of those enormous strong guys are very humble and kind. They are so big nobody really posts a threat to them so they can just be fully themselves
My family are billionaires. You wouldn’t even guess it from the way they dress. Shorts, flip flops, t shirts from the cheapest stores. Yet own houses and sun seeker boats. Hard work doesn’t mean to show off. Stay humble people
Nah she dodged a bullet in my opinion for what it's worth. He should have made sure his business was upto scratch before even pitching it and asking for money in the first place. I mean checking if a name is available before using it for your business just seems like common sense, even to me who's never had a business in my life. If he can make an obvious mistake like that, what else is he gonna screw up? Not someone I'd wanna take a gamble on if I was in her place.
@@Zzzzz_Zzzzzz______ I don't understand why he couldn't rebrand the boxes for this pitch... but I am totally confused that he rejected Peter's suggestion of adding voice... or that of the other dragons of adding a panic button.
Its scaleable so it has a potential place in both home and care home I think. The dragons were all correct but what Peter advised him to do kinda saved it from being a PITA to relatives... and would make it cover all bases IMO.
Yes he won the smart home award for 2019 according to his website. Seemed like a great idea to me. I think the dragons didn’t realise it’s full potential
perhaps it was edited out but i dont think he explained it well enough, when they were talking about 16 texts per day it was obvious they had the wrong idea, the point about mum cooking sunday dinner and being in the kitchen longer, no problem, when you get that text on a sunday you can ignore it or ring and check, didn't defend his product well enough imo
@@Stevesmith-xj7xe tbf Jenny kept on cutting him off and making petty excuses and if he were to cut them off they would get butt hurt about it. I hate people like that.
Honestly, the "dragons" (more like sharks to me) are often quite stupid. Yes, this idea needs refinement but it's not unnecessary or unimprovable. Furthermore, the gentleman offered a whole bunch of equity for a measly £95k. A lot of entrepreneurs get ripped off in the den.
@@gee_ He could dedicate his life to knowledge, arts, spirituality, enlightenment and the pleasure of the senses. I imagine that very fulfilling. Edit: Now that I think of it, a business man might not have the mindset for things like that...
CONTESTANT here... Nigel Mills Wow, 400k views and 800+ comments, thank you for watching my pitch here on RUclips ! Please up-vote this comment to keep it near the top of the comments section. If anyone wants to know more about the product than the Dragons allowed me to say, then you can see it here at: www.TEC-Angel.co.uk Just a little feedback to the various questions in other comments: Cameras: Cameras completely invade anyone’s privacy and only offer any protection if you are watching the camera feed 24/7. TEC-Angel is active all day every day. Money & Tax: No I didn't get all the money, it was shared with my business partner. Several investment companies contacted me with ways to avoid paying tax on my share. I concluded the tax man would hound me forever and so I duly paid the taxes and I wrote out a big cheque to HMRC. Fall Detectors: These are unreliable and generate many false alarms (or they aren't worn). Trademark: Deborah seemed particularly critical of the name / trademark issue, completely ignoring the fact that we had already taken steps to work round it. Very easy to criticise a start-up when all you've done is take over an existing family business :-) Why Dragons Den ?: For the publicity and the hope of a Dragon helping me get a better route to market, for me their money wasn’t an issue. Filming the Show: A tough day. Setup by 5pm the day before, then at the studio next day from 6am. Finally met the Dragons at 6pm after 12 hours in the green room (and there were still two more contestants behind me). Apparently lunch overran because one of the Dragons sent a lackey across town to get a particular sandwich from a particular shop (never mind all the people waiting backstage). If I had my time again I'd lead with my main motivations for the product as detailed under "Why TEC-Angel?" on the home page of the site link above. On reflection while my pitch was drafted to give me credibility, it was a bit incendiary. The Studio: It's all pretend, just a set in a TV studio. Even the lift is fake, just a room you walk into and out of while guys open and close the doors `Star Trek bridge style` while another guy with a switch operates the floor level indicators. 20 minutes after being faced with the dragons and a brief post pitch `rabbit in the headlights interview` you’re standing outside the studio building with your table wondering `what just happened ?`. An interesting experience, but I wouldn't do it again !! Getting on the show: A long time between applying and appearing on-air, about a year for me. Troves and troves of due-diligence beforehand to prove you and the product are who you say you are, all of which has to be backed up with real evidence. You can no longer go on and just `spin a yarn`, they’ve obviously been taken for fools before ! TEC-Angel: It's real, `it does what is says on the tin`, and is available on 48 hour delivery from the website linked to above. If you want to contact me directly, please e-mail me at enquiries@tec-angel.co.uk (sorry RUclips keeps interpreting that as a website link not an e-mail address, you'll have to copy / paste, or use the actual link at the top of the web page). Thank you for your generally positive comments. Nigel Mills
Nice work Nigel. I've had an idea for an invention for a good number of years but lack the skills required to build a prototype. It involves smart tech, and would find a global market in homes and business. If you're interested in hearing more, you can reach me at chriscoomer494@gmail.com Take care and all the best to you and yours, Chris
One of the most naive and ignorant men ive seen in a while. They gave you some good advice on how to improve your product like with the voice and sound.... That would literally solve the entire problem of your product which is reliability..
I agree with Peter, the product just needs to be more tailored. For example combine it with a camera that allows you to check on a family member if they havent left the bathroom for 2 hours or havent left a bedroom by midday etc. Therefore preserving some of their privacy but also allowing you to check on anything that is unusual. And a panic button etc is useless if they collapse or have stroke.
The sad thing is, a product like this suits my situation, where I need to be away from my elderly mother and the need to know if she's okay, than send her to care with strangers. This system suits my situation perfectly
I used to help out an old lady who got wedged down the side of the bed between it and the wall. Stayed there from 11pm until 8am despite having a call button round her neck because she didn't want to put anyone out in the middle of the night. Oldies eh? Bless em.
There is a good concept here but a simple PIR sensor (and the £600 price tag instead of £60) isn't up to the job. All it can do is detect movement and then presume the outcome. Someone could come to the front door, smash the person over the head upon opening the door, and then walk around the house and be presumed to be the elderly relative whilst stealing all their money and jewellery. Although it isn't intended as a security product it is next to useless on the function.
@@philipjohnkaye8890 well please tell the gent I mentioned who was stuck on floor of his bathroom for twelve hours, you are concerned that I was disrespectful to nurses. Assisted care facilities are not hospitals. This system is fantastic
Technology enabled care specialists, TEC-Angel, were presented with the Integrated Home Award it is a good business now, maybe he will sell it now for £18m 😉
its already dead ("no longer accepting new orders"), which is not surprizing : the product looks like crap with 20 years old design and the sell price of 800 is ridiculous provided the very low cost of such outdated and low tech systems (based on PIR, cheap radio like CC1120 and cheap GPRS module).
Whenever they mention ArcAngel i think about the Black Mirror episode with the device the woman installs in her child so she can keep an eye on everything she is doing
Im still haunted by the end of that episode I swear when the woman realised her child has gone for good. Devastating. I love Black Mirror for really going into depth of the dangers of technology and I think that was the episode that hit closest to home.
This was just about advertising , he didn't want or need their money think how much having TV to advertise this would have cost?. This was a really smart move. I love the product too. He may have also wanted their expertise. However I think personally this was more about exposure.
he should redesign it so the sensors goes around skirting boards of a room and detects when a sensor around her neck is less than 40cm off the ground. meaning even if she is knocked out and cant press the emergency button, it has a timer to send a distress call. means money from multiple sensors fitting around house and has the upper hand on the emergency necklace button when she cant push it
SkankHunt 420 haha. Whenever the tv licence ppl come to my mums door, she states that as a reason why she doesn’t pay TV licence. They haven’t bothered her in 7 years 🤷🏽♀️
actually the entire thing would work if it were cameras because then they could tell if the person were actually motionless or nor even down to being able to see if the person was sleeping or not
@@richardkent2977 im glad you liked it ,it just came into my head just sat here watching stuff bank holiday, after watching this ,the guy useing another companys name ,now i know why he has 17 million in the bank ,he couldnt see what he was doing wrong ,,
“It’s almost like you have invented the thing that you would have invented before the thing that’s been invented that’s better” Try to say this 10 times quicker
Turns out the gentleman didn't end up going forward with the business, but he did create a subscription service that would phone a subscribing customer every hour and give them a recording that their telephone service is active and working.
Peter does make a fair point. If this was basically a more automated LifeAlert, it would probably be a really good product/service. Basically it would make sense that instead of texting to their loved ones with all the proms that it has, why not automatically start a call to a 24/7 call center during any abnormal activity, and the sensors also have microphones/speakers for the elderly people to talk to the call center (obviously if they don't respond to the call, then that's a sign to send an ambulance. Of course, there is also the cases where an elderly person would be unconscious way before this "normality time" has elapsed, in which case the call might come too late. Maybe he could change how the text system works, where instead the system will text you whenever you send it some password, in order to get a report of their activity around the house (since it's a SIM card, the phone number is available, so this should be possible. Also it's password protected bc the number could get leaked). There are other issues, but this is somewhat of an improvement to what he has pitched to the dragons.
Every episode: This episode: Peter: So you've made 17M in another business? Tell me more about the other business. Jenny: I'm out. Deborah: You don't have the rights to use the brand name? Touker: You already have 17M so you could just hire your own office space in london and I'd rather help someone that can't. Taj:You already built a brand once yourself, you've got a shitty product here you're unsure about what to do with and now you're trying to pass this off to an investor to help you build the brand. I won't be doing it but I could.
According to their site the company went out of business in aug 2020, because they never made enough money to make it viable long term. Guess the dragons were spot on with this one.
Raising awareness? Hmm whats all that about then? Ive heard it said a lot. But lets be honest its just a way of throwing money away on a load of old bollocks. I hope my comment raised your awareness.
Secretly installing webcams in all the rooms would be cheaper and more effective than this. While Jenny usually looks for silly excuses to not invest, she was very right in tearing this product to pieces.
My grandma died on her livingroom floor after having a bad fall, i wish we had something like this. Jenny was rude. They are incredibly selfish. I don't want 16 messages a day about my mum ect. If your mother, grandmother, or anyone, had a sickness or is at an age of worry You should want those texts. Tbh you should either ring them your damn self to check, or be living with them. If covid taught me anything its that life and time is precious. So many people are dying alone everyday from thousands of problems. Soo this was disgusting and masked by money.
Jenny brought up a legit point, all he had to do was say; "that's a valid point, I'll have to brainstorm that one and fix it" no long winded debate, situation defused and the worry would be put out of the other dragons' minds
_"She might as well move in with me, then I can keep an eye on her."_ The sad truth is, Jenny is joking. But honestly, why not? That's a perfectly viable option for elderly folks who have family and no mental health issues. That's what families do in most parts of the world. In the UK and the US the only culturally acceptable options is to put them in nursing homes or pretty much abandon them to live alone with a monitoring system that hopefully isn't manned by somebody for whom the job is just a paycheck, and they don't care.
@@denchsausage7126 Are you kidding?? They don't mope, they mop! And they clean, and do dishes, and laundry. They're grateful not to be abandoned by their family! They show their gratitude. They can also cook too. Better to live with grand-ma than a Millennial. Those ones are worthless! They do NOTHING except complain and get offended at EVERYTHING!
The deal will go through just not on tv. They all had an uncertain look after rejecting him. His pitch was his best free commercial, saved big on advertising.
He should definitely tweak his product. I still think the core of the idea is viable, but it is currently too intrusive. Taking away the call center as a middle man is definitely a plus.
The dragons are in reality spending their own money so they can be on television. The reason they weren’t keen on this product is that from their own very subjective and narrow viewpoint it wouldn’t suit them personally. They were dismissive of the notion they could be bombarded with text alerts.... the reality is that they are not the target market market. However if you are not a multi millionaire and therefore cannot afford private care homes or private nurses for your elderly relatives, it could bring some additional peace of mind at a more affordable price.
This is one time I agreed with Jenny. It makes no sense. He basically explained how to set the system to not alert you when your mum is in the kitchen with a broken hip. He basically said you figure out how long she spends in there and set the alert for a longer time and if she is then in there for a longer time it’ll alert you. So mum lays in the tub with a broken hip for two hours because you were tired of getting false alerts at 60, 70, 80, 90 min etc. Who would want that?
Actually this is a decent product, but you need to add an AI element to the product that tracks unusual behaviour from the norm. You would need to filter out false alarms, add a heart beat monitor to the package and you have saleable product.
You have more money than me in the bank and for that reason I’m out
Jamie Jackson 😂😂😂
Lol I can’t actually believe how much Jenny has.. she seems fucking useless compared to the rest of the dragons
I was going to comment the same thing 😭
I can't even say 17million.
Jamie Jackson is this Jenny again
My granddad died because he fell over and couldn't activate his life alert. If we had something like this installed he might be alive today.
i honestly think this is a good idea and i'm only in my 20s. i don't get why everyone is ragging on it.
They have to wear the wrist button though. Its quite common for elderly people to forget things like that.
Ewan Hill / Fails 6% of the time? That is awful, you cannot say that it works when 6 in every 100 fatal falls result in failure and the person dying, that doesn’t count as working.
The product works when it does it’s job consistency, that is not consistent. 6% is huge.
I cannot believe you have the cheek to say ‘only 6%’. That is humongous, the product doesn’t work well.
Peter made a good point though; it needs to be combined with some sort of emergency call too. Cannot just be a text to your kid or whatever.
Ewan Hill / Yeah it’s also inconsistent and not worth getting with such a large failure rate. Just buy one that works properly if you care about your elderly relatives.
There’s something refreshing about seeing a man with 17 million in the bank still get nervous infront of the dragons. Real.
Making 17m and having 17m in the bank ain't the same thing
Selling a company for 17m and making 17m aren't even the same thing. Crazy how the "dragons" can be that dumb.
if he sold the company for 17 M he worked hard for it there for he made that 17 M
He got 17million 'sales proceeds', it means the company probably sold for 50+mil and that's his share of it... slow claps for ya'll
@@jaydencrilley67 still doesnt mean he has it in the bank, he could've spent it
@@GEM4sta exactly!
In an alternate universe, Jenny is bankrupt because she keeps investing in every business that comes into Dragon's Den
Sarah Davies....
But then she could just sell her shares in some businesses and she'd have enough money
I honestly think Jenny is struggling with money and thats the reason she doesn't invest. As in she hasn't got half the money the others have
ーススペードのエ wooooooshhhh
@@TraviansLittleHelpe that wooossshhh thing is getting old
Michael:" My name is Michael"
Dragons: "WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!"
I do this on every call I get in work because I know I'll forget it.
The awkward moment when the pitcher is richer than one of the dragons
which one? Jenny is worth over 50m
@@giftig694 Nope. Sold a company for 50 million with 10 million networth prior. Nice try though.
@@giftig694 she's not broke shes just out
@@C-qc657 lol, she is just 'out'. Cracked me the fuck up
Daniel O'Rourke she has multi millions investments
Quite like how Tej sits there quietly and just listens and doesn’t react and then says his piece. Cool guy.
Tej is a very classy guy and is great for the show.
He's always been polite and soft spoken. A very rare, dyed in the wool gentleman!
@@JS-tm1gq Agree with you. Its nice they keep him on the show, even though he doesn't create drama or do any "stunts" for tv. A real one
Unlike the douchbag that took his place now... *sigh*
Look at Jenny's face when he mentioned that he has £17M in the bank lol she is so jealous. We all know that her bank balance is closer to £17 hence why she never invests.
Has Jenny ever invested in anything? Also she never contributes much to the conversations
DS C Random guess, look after my bills?
She's also investing outside the den. She just has particular parameters for investment.
@DS C yeah it was driven media she invested in, with that young guy who was the entrepreneur
She has around £50M
Jennys mum: "Ive fallen and I cant get up, need help.."
"Im out"
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Jesus Christ I’m dead 💀😂🤣
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Atkins Paints The World! ...Best comment
LMAO.......
Jenny joins a TV channel for their cricket Test Match commentary. As soon as she enters the commentary booth all ten batsmen are out.
He: **17M pounds**
Jenny: *Allow me to introduce myself*
No, actually i'm out
Jenny: "You can have my seat."
He: It's ok, I'm out!
@mr red ik Jenny is just out a lot 😂
Vulnerability alert! Jenny an alpha woman sees opportunity!
Investors: Why do you need a dragon?
Me: I need a dragon because I have a princess locked up in my castle.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Scheiße, I can't stop laughing...
Hahaaaaaaa
Investors: Obviously she hasn't left the castle. Your phone keeps getting ArcAngel text messages.
When she said “Did you make lots of money out of that” she was being so sarcastic and demeaning then when he said £17 million she woke up
To me that sounded scripted - she just wouldn't phrase it like that otherwise
There are no surprises regarding the backgrounds of the entrepreneurs. The Dragons know the business history and criminal backgrounds of everyone beforehand. That's how they determine who they are, what they have, and what questions to ask when cameras are rolling. Sometimes, potential on paper is enough to pique serious Dragon interest, especially if the income is passive with. The Dragon's use strategy, (sometimes collective) and a poker face to get the best deal for themselves, knowing full well they reserve the discretion to back out before contracts are signed.
She wasn't being sarcastic, he said he took a business to plc so of course it was going to be a lot
I'd be too if some random asking for a loan said "Im a successful entrepreneur" Generally real entrepreneurs don't even call themselves that.
Not just her. All the other dragons gave reactions too.
Add 20 years to this guy and he’d look just like the old man from ‘Up’...
Swift Games haha. Yes.
Swift Games lol
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Swift Games 😂😂😂
Jenny buys this product and her children see that she hasn't left the livingroom in 5 hours.
Children: mum, you haven't made a movement in the house in 5 hours. Where are you?
Jenny: I'm out.
Bahahahaha 🤣
Very clever comment ! 👍
100 thumbs!!!
How can she be out if shes never left the Living room
@@xamurai00 R/Wooshywoosh
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‘My name is Nigel Mills’
Jenny: And for that reason I won’t be investing.
Lmafooo
😂
I was going to make a Jenny joke but “I’m out” of them
Ngl made me laugh... for that reason am out...
Thx for da likes
Fk me this made my day!
Remove the inverted commas and it works even better😄
Should of phrased it as....
I was going to tell a Jenny Campbell joke but I'm afraid I'm all out...
hahaha best one I've seen recently
So basically if an elderly person stays in bed for a wank too long, their alarm goes off and someone arrives to drag them out of bed.
Cracked me right up pal haha
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chriscrocvlogs or to assist in said wank
Don’t forget the time needed for the viagra to kick in before a wank is possible
Geo 666 lol welcome :)
Good intentions, but really feels like 90s tech.
Yah for £190 you install a camera sending live video to the corresponding app nowadays
seems daft to me.Jenny made some great points. Imagine thinking/knowing you're responsible for the death of a loved one just because you didn't read a text? or just having the constant stress of this over you. Just makes no sense at all
Even has that 90's beige colour to the devices.
It’s infinitely less effective than any other solution. It’s a case of somebody taking some tech they find cool and trying to force it into any business they can
@@cr5678 yes he was talking about the fact you cut out the middle man as a good thing where as you are just replacing a specialised 24/7 call handler and doing it yourself when you are possibly asleep or away from your phone, it makes no sense
Jenny: "So, 17 million in the bank...could you lend us a quid, mate?"
Jenny "You have £17 million in the bank? That's £16,999,999,36p more than me,
BATMAN DESTROYS oh shit
I mean, she's worth over 50mil but sure, you do you and keep making tired old jokes. You're probably jealous because you won't even make 50k in a year :')
BATMAN DESTROYS yea she gave me 2 million I was a share holder
@@dingdong475 She's a horrible woman.
@@dingdong475 Incel virgin alert
Hes a good guy, humble about his earnings
Nicole Oliver I know a billionaire family that you would walk straight past. Only their way of speaking gives away that they come from ‘higher’ circles haha
Humble? Or trying to conceal them...
Arabella // Exactly. Have you ever followed world strongest man? Most of those enormous strong guys are very humble and kind. They are so big nobody really posts a threat to them so they can just be fully themselves
My family are billionaires. You wouldn’t even guess it from the way they dress. Shorts, flip flops, t shirts from the cheapest stores. Yet own houses and sun seeker boats. Hard work doesn’t mean to show off. Stay humble people
*Knocks on door*
"Is Jenny home?"
"Nope, she's out..."
"mom's poo"
.....pooing
Deborah needs to calm tf down lol He literally said just seconds earlier that they're in the process of changing names
Nah she dodged a bullet in my opinion for what it's worth. He should have made sure his business was upto scratch before even pitching it and asking for money in the first place. I mean checking if a name is available before using it for your business just seems like common sense, even to me who's never had a business in my life. If he can make an obvious mistake like that, what else is he gonna screw up? Not someone I'd wanna take a gamble on if I was in her place.
Yea plonkers
She's mad at him.
@@Zzzzz_Zzzzzz______ I don't understand why he couldn't rebrand the boxes for this pitch... but I am totally confused that he rejected Peter's suggestion of adding voice... or that of the other dragons of adding a panic button.
I think Jenny is there just to pretend she's got money lol
oh is jenny the barbara from dragons den? or like EVERY SHARK from shark tank australia?
Jenny is worth around 50 million
Someone could come on selling shares in their dog that shits gold bricks and she'd turn it down.
do you mean dragons den from another country? because jenny is the jenny from dragons den UK lmao :p
@@ascoadia282 what ?! 🤔😅
Wouldn't this be better in a rest home than in a residential unit, then it could just message the nurses or whatever.
Its scaleable so it has a potential place in both home and care home I think.
The dragons were all correct but what Peter advised him to do kinda saved it from being a PITA to relatives... and would make it cover all bases IMO.
Entrepreneur: I made £17 million from my last business.
Jenny: you're richer than me, and for that reason, I'm out
Arcangel? Did people not learn anything from black mirror?
i thought that as soon as i saw arcangel
literally what i was thinking
It’s even a similar type of technology
That episode was devastating.
Yes he won the smart home award for 2019 according to his website. Seemed like a great idea to me. I think the dragons didn’t realise it’s full potential
perhaps it was edited out but i dont think he explained it well enough, when they were talking about 16 texts per day it was obvious they had the wrong idea, the point about mum cooking sunday dinner and being in the kitchen longer, no problem, when you get that text on a sunday you can ignore it or ring and check, didn't defend his product well enough imo
@@Stevesmith-xj7xe tbf Jenny kept on cutting him off and making petty excuses and if he were to cut them off they would get butt hurt about it. I hate people like that.
Exactly
Honestly, the "dragons" (more like sharks to me) are often quite stupid. Yes, this idea needs refinement but it's not unnecessary or unimprovable.
Furthermore, the gentleman offered a whole bunch of equity for a measly £95k.
A lot of entrepreneurs get ripped off in the den.
@@Stevesmith-xj7xe What if she collapses on a Sunday? How would you know if you just ignore it?
If I had 17m at his age i’d Buy a house somewhere sunny and chill.
The novelty of "chilling" wears off eventually. An intelligent mind can't stand to waste away.
greed
He said he wants to help people.
- satori - Not when you’re on your death bed and regretting not enjoying the fruits of your labour, everything in moderation
@@gee_
He could dedicate his life to knowledge, arts, spirituality, enlightenment and the pleasure of the senses. I imagine that very fulfilling.
Edit: Now that I think of it, a business man might not have the mindset for things like that...
"I earned £17,000,000, 'a reasonable amount' in my other business."
*99.9% of the world population* :ARE WE ALL A JOKE TO YOU???!!!!
Hi, im looking for 1 billion pounds investment for 2% of my business
The top 0.1% is not 17 mil though
@@ehutch1236 then where is 17 million?
@@Fif0l the 17 million is in my bank B)
Miraversal comment of the month
CONTESTANT here... Nigel Mills
Wow, 400k views and 800+ comments, thank you for watching my pitch here on RUclips ! Please up-vote this comment to keep it near the top of the comments section.
If anyone wants to know more about the product than the Dragons allowed me to say, then you can see it here at:
www.TEC-Angel.co.uk
Just a little feedback to the various questions in other comments:
Cameras: Cameras completely invade anyone’s privacy and only offer any protection if you are watching the camera feed 24/7. TEC-Angel is active all day every day.
Money & Tax: No I didn't get all the money, it was shared with my business partner. Several investment companies contacted me with ways to avoid paying tax on my share. I concluded the tax man would hound me forever and so I duly paid the taxes and I wrote out a big cheque to HMRC.
Fall Detectors: These are unreliable and generate many false alarms (or they aren't worn).
Trademark: Deborah seemed particularly critical of the name / trademark issue, completely ignoring the fact that we had already taken steps to work round it. Very easy to criticise a start-up when all you've done is take over an existing family business :-)
Why Dragons Den ?: For the publicity and the hope of a Dragon helping me get a better route to market, for me their money wasn’t an issue.
Filming the Show: A tough day. Setup by 5pm the day before, then at the studio next day from 6am. Finally met the Dragons at 6pm after 12 hours in the green room (and there were still two more contestants behind me). Apparently lunch overran because one of the Dragons sent a lackey across town to get a particular sandwich from a particular shop (never mind all the people waiting backstage). If I had my time again I'd lead with my main motivations for the product as detailed under "Why TEC-Angel?" on the home page of the site link above. On reflection while my pitch was drafted to give me credibility, it was a bit incendiary.
The Studio: It's all pretend, just a set in a TV studio. Even the lift is fake, just a room you walk into and out of while guys open and close the doors `Star Trek bridge style` while another guy with a switch operates the floor level indicators. 20 minutes after being faced with the dragons and a brief post pitch `rabbit in the headlights interview` you’re standing outside the studio building with your table wondering `what just happened ?`. An interesting experience, but I wouldn't do it again !!
Getting on the show: A long time between applying and appearing on-air, about a year for me. Troves and troves of due-diligence beforehand to prove you and the product are who you say you are, all of which has to be backed up with real evidence. You can no longer go on and just `spin a yarn`, they’ve obviously been taken for fools before !
TEC-Angel: It's real, `it does what is says on the tin`, and is available on 48 hour delivery from the website linked to above.
If you want to contact me directly, please e-mail me at enquiries@tec-angel.co.uk (sorry RUclips keeps interpreting that as a website link not an e-mail address, you'll have to copy / paste, or use the actual link at the top of the web page).
Thank you for your generally positive comments.
Nigel Mills
Nice work Nigel.
I've had an idea for an invention for a good number of years but lack the skills required to build a prototype.
It involves smart tech, and would find a global market in homes and business.
If you're interested in hearing more, you can reach me at chriscoomer494@gmail.com
Take care and all the best to you and yours,
Chris
You either have breathing difficulties or you are a poor communicator...very poor presentation.
You need an inhaler Nigel because ur breathing is 👌👌
One of the most naive and ignorant men ive seen in a while. They gave you some good advice on how to improve your product like with the voice and sound.... That would literally solve the entire problem of your product which is reliability..
be frank guessing you’ve never come across performance anxiety before?
OMG, the laboured breathing was quite distressing. I hope he has one of these gadgets in his own home.
I agree with Peter, the product just needs to be more tailored. For example combine it with a camera that allows you to check on a family member if they havent left the bathroom for 2 hours or havent left a bedroom by midday etc. Therefore preserving some of their privacy but also allowing you to check on anything that is unusual. And a panic button etc is useless if they collapse or have stroke.
Your motion sensor has detected that I don't really have money to invest so for that reason, I'm out.
Noice!!!
The sad thing is, a product like this suits my situation, where I need to be away from my elderly mother and the need to know if she's okay, than send her to care with strangers. This system suits my situation perfectly
Why is that sad? He is literally going to produce and sell the product you need....
@@GEM4sta It's sad that it was dismissed so rudely, when I heard the pitch I also thought it actually would be a very good product for many people.
@@GEM4sta lol, already ceased trading, and this product was pverpriced crap anyway, totally outdate technology and unwise technical choices (PIR, GPRS)
Get a sonoff and some door and motion sensors and you have a WiFi version that you check with live updates.
*Nigel breathes*
Jenny: This is absolute madness, i'm out!
jenny was so jealous that he has £17mil that she started hating on him
yes she dident even let him answer
@Rob he doesn't believe it. It was a joke that Jenny never invests
fo sho
It seems like she has High B.P
Contestant: I have a multimillion pound company but today I’m looking for £10 for 100% of my compa-
Jenny: let me stop you right there, *I’m out.*
Please make it stop nooooooooooooo!!!
In that scenario, she says "I'm out... of excuses...."
Haha nice, Theres about a million jenny jokes on here but this is my favourite
@@davidabkk Then you haven't read any good ones.
Lmao
They just don’t like him because he’s got money
Nah. The product is shitty.
Czarinov It’s not though
@@TrapBarWith41.5cmSleeves it's really not though
17Million in the Bank...you've got more than me, why'd you need me?
It is a brilliant idea
I have known many older people who have been stuck on floor for 12 hours with nurse's on site
With call buttons
Many older people on the floor for 12 hours with a nurse on site?
I used to help out an old lady who got wedged down the side of the bed between it and the wall. Stayed there from 11pm until 8am despite having a call button round her neck because she didn't want to put anyone out in the middle of the night. Oldies eh? Bless em.
There is a good concept here but a simple PIR sensor (and the £600 price tag instead of £60) isn't up to the job.
All it can do is detect movement and then presume the outcome. Someone could come to the front door, smash the person over the head upon opening the door, and then walk around the house and be presumed to be the elderly relative whilst stealing all their money and jewellery. Although it isn't intended as a security product it is next to useless on the function.
Sounds like you being quite derogatory towards nurses without any valid reason, making out as if technology should replace human contact.
@@philipjohnkaye8890 well please tell the gent I mentioned who was stuck on floor of his bathroom for twelve hours, you are concerned that I was disrespectful to nurses.
Assisted care facilities are not hospitals. This system is fantastic
I nearly choked on my rich tea biscuit when he said 17million
Very rich...
It says it in the title
@@pacnite It's how he says it..
he is lying ... why does he need funds from dragons lol
Rich tea biscuits suck. Digestives is where it’s at.
You can see the respect and attitude change instantly when they know he's worth 17 million
For good reason. They realize they aren't dealing with a complete novice.
“Knock, knock”
‘Who’s there?’
“Nobody, Jenny’s out”
David Crisp too underrated mann 😂😂😂😂😂
"I made £17M"
Me: *can barely buy a cinema ticket* 😂😂
“Hello Dragons, my name is Nigel Mills. I’m a successful-”
Jenny *writing* : I’m out
Technology enabled care specialists, TEC-Angel, were presented with the Integrated Home Award it is a good business now, maybe he will sell it now for £18m 😉
its already dead ("no longer accepting new orders"), which is not surprizing : the product looks like crap with 20 years old design and the sell price of 800 is ridiculous provided the very low cost of such outdated and low tech systems (based on PIR, cheap radio like CC1120 and cheap GPRS module).
Jenny should be the poster girl for brexit. 'We're out".😁😂
Jenny: ” I have an elderly mother inlaw, and for that reason, im out.”
Whenever they mention ArcAngel i think about the Black Mirror episode with the device the woman installs in her child so she can keep an eye on everything she is doing
I agree, I think this is the early version of it
Im still haunted by the end of that episode I swear when the woman realised her child has gone for good. Devastating. I love Black Mirror for really going into depth of the dangers of technology and I think that was the episode that hit closest to home.
This was just about advertising , he didn't want or need their money think how much having TV to advertise this would have cost?. This was a really smart move. I love the product too. He may have also wanted their expertise. However I think personally this was more about exposure.
They know what they're doing when they put Jenny in the thumbnail lol
Leads The Fallen facts
It’s Deborah now
That's Deborah u dimwit
@@curleypubes3672 yea. Maybe they changed the thumbnail
lmao they nitpicked it so hard
imagine being so salty that you have less than the guy pitching to you, that you tryhard to roast him
He's not that dumb,he got publicity from RUclips free of cost...result.
With a name he doesn’t own?
@@elvickRULES CIA or FBI?
This is actually a great idea they just didn't understand it or refused to understand it. The guy is an engineer not a salesman
“And he leaves the den empty handed”
That is aside from the £17m he already has safely nestled away.
he should redesign it so the sensors goes around skirting boards of a room and detects when a sensor around her neck is less than 40cm off the ground. meaning even if she is knocked out and cant press the emergency button, it has a timer to send a distress call. means money from multiple sensors fitting around house and has the upper hand on the emergency necklace button when she cant push it
Surely with 17m quid in the bank, he can buy the best possible advice from anywhere in the world. This is nuts. BBC should never have allowed him in.
Eightiesboy it’s a move to promote his tech on national tele and RUclips
SkankHunt 420 haha. Whenever the tv licence ppl come to my mums door, she states that as a reason why she doesn’t pay TV licence. They haven’t bothered her in 7 years 🤷🏽♀️
Touker: what's stopping me from offering the elderly some office space to live in?!
-Jenny:How much money do you have?
-£17 million
-Jenny: you’re too successful and for that reason I’m out.
Nigel: I was here looking for real dragons.
Am on Universal credit and I couldn’t afford it any anyway for that reason am out
Mini Me 😂😂😂😂😂 best one
Pmsl that’s true lol 😂
🤣😩💀
Most rangers fans are. They gut fish for a living and shout God bless the queen.
actually the entire thing would work if it were cameras because then they could tell if the person were actually motionless or nor even down to being able to see if the person was sleeping or not
my grandad was in bathroom for ages, cracking one off to a picture of jenny ,i kept getting txis so i took my battery out,went back to sleep .
Ha! Noice!
Hahaha i proper laughed at this
@@richardkent2977 im glad you liked it ,it just came into my head just sat here watching stuff bank holiday, after watching this ,the guy useing another companys name ,now i know why he has 17 million in the bank ,he couldnt see what he was doing wrong ,,
🤣🤣🤣
🤣😂🤣😂
Jenny: £17M in the Bank?
Nigel: Yeah!
Jenny: Well... i'm out. But, let ME show you my invention so you can invest in. ✴
“It’s almost like you have invented the thing that you would have invented before the thing that’s been invented that’s better”
Try to say this 10 times quicker
Lol ikr
Timestamp?
@@sheh5372 8:26
@@ohrightok9750 he said it's like you're trying to invent the wheel when there's already formula one cars out there. Try listening more
@@TheGiantMidget cba checkin if you're... it was 2 montha ago... ill just assume im right and you're wrong
Can I just say that this guy has the most soothing voice ever?
Lester from GTA V?
Jack Harrison he’s not disabled but he is also rich
lool lesterrrr lmaooo is the best - this is something lester would invent to assist with heists LOL
@@mohammedqadir1913 bit descriptive there..you fucking GOON.
Turns out the gentleman didn't end up going forward with the business, but he did create a subscription service that would phone a subscribing customer every hour and give them a recording that their telephone service is active and working.
Its absolutely boiling outside,
Therefore suns out, I'm out!
Wise words of Jenny Campbell
Peter does make a fair point. If this was basically a more automated LifeAlert, it would probably be a really good product/service. Basically it would make sense that instead of texting to their loved ones with all the proms that it has, why not automatically start a call to a 24/7 call center during any abnormal activity, and the sensors also have microphones/speakers for the elderly people to talk to the call center (obviously if they don't respond to the call, then that's a sign to send an ambulance. Of course, there is also the cases where an elderly person would be unconscious way before this "normality time" has elapsed, in which case the call might come too late.
Maybe he could change how the text system works, where instead the system will text you whenever you send it some password, in order to get a report of their activity around the house (since it's a SIM card, the phone number is available, so this should be possible. Also it's password protected bc the number could get leaked).
There are other issues, but this is somewhat of an improvement to what he has pitched to the dragons.
I would be so embarrassed if people knew how long I sit still sometimes. I blush when Netflix asks me if I’m still there 😟.
They gives most Unreasonable prediction called - jealousy..
Every episode:
This episode:
Peter: So you've made 17M in another business? Tell me more about the other business.
Jenny: I'm out.
Deborah: You don't have the rights to use the brand name?
Touker: You already have 17M so you could just hire your own office space in london and I'd rather help someone that can't.
Taj:You already built a brand once yourself, you've got a shitty product here you're unsure about what to do with and now you're trying to pass this off to an investor to help you build the brand. I won't be doing it but I could.
Felt like he needed the device at any moment with that heavy breathing.
"It's almost like you've invented the thing that you would've invented before the thing that's been invented that's better!" - classic Deborah! 😂😂
Guy Mulinder
it still confusing
According to their site the company went out of business in aug 2020, because they never made enough money to make it viable long term. Guess the dragons were spot on with this one.
They'd be better spending £90k on raising awareness on loneliness in the elderly.
I agree with Andy H
Or investing in activities for the elderly in care homes. It saddens me how boring life must be when your family dumps you there.
Raising awareness? Hmm whats all that about then? Ive heard it said a lot. But lets be honest its just a way of throwing money away on a load of old bollocks. I hope my comment raised your awareness.
amen to that
@@deejarrett8291 amen to what i said?
Secretly installing webcams in all the rooms would be cheaper and more effective than this.
While Jenny usually looks for silly excuses to not invest, she was very right in tearing this product to pieces.
Why would you need to install them secretly ?
My grandma died on her livingroom floor after having a bad fall, i wish we had something like this. Jenny was rude. They are incredibly selfish. I don't want 16 messages a day about my mum ect. If your mother, grandmother, or anyone, had a sickness or is at an age of worry You should want those texts.
Tbh you should either ring them your damn self to check, or be living with them. If covid taught me anything its that life and time is precious. So many people are dying alone everyday from thousands of problems. Soo this was disgusting and masked by money.
Jenny brought up a legit point, all he had to do was say; "that's a valid point, I'll have to brainstorm that one and fix it"
no long winded debate, situation defused and the worry would be put out of the other dragons' minds
Jenny: 'You have lots of money, for that reason I'm out!'
_"She might as well move in with me, then I can keep an eye on her."_
The sad truth is, Jenny is joking. But honestly, why not? That's a perfectly viable option for elderly folks who have family and no mental health issues. That's what families do in most parts of the world. In the UK and the US the only culturally acceptable options is to put them in nursing homes or pretty much abandon them to live alone with a monitoring system that hopefully isn't manned by somebody for whom the job is just a paycheck, and they don't care.
Cuz most people don't want a 500 year old lady moping around their house
@@denchsausage7126
Are you kidding?? They don't mope, they mop! And they clean, and do dishes, and laundry. They're grateful not to be abandoned by their family! They show their gratitude. They can also cook too. Better to live with grand-ma than a Millennial. Those ones are worthless! They do NOTHING except complain and get offended at EVERYTHING!
@@denchsausage7126 so you dont care about your elderly family members???
Can we get some of the new pitches from the latest season with Sara Davies? She is an awesome dragon!
Wait your turn
@Richard Williams no she isn't
@Richard Williams you a chubby chaser
@@JC-mb3cq lol
Ikr
It's nice to see others be nervous speaking in front of people..but get thru it!
Why you in dragons den if you don’t have money to invest ?
The deal will go through just not on tv. They all had an uncertain look after rejecting him. His pitch was his best free commercial, saved big on advertising.
He obv has a hardware/software issue where the one outranks the other. On to of that doesn't understand marketing, which is why hes there
Renier Van Rensburg made 17 million from previous businesses..... think he understands marketing just fine mate, just not the best idea is all
He should definitely tweak his product. I still think the core of the idea is viable, but it is currently too intrusive. Taking away the call center as a middle man is definitely a plus.
I agree
Jenny could sort out a Brexit deal in seconds, all she needs to do is talk about her two strapping lads back home and tell the EU "I'm out"
It’s a great intruder alarm system. The cellular connectivity is the key.
The best way to look after your parents is live together under one roof.i will not be able sleep if I didn’t know how’s my loved ones
Asif Iqbal that’s not the western way homie.
The dragons are in reality spending their own money so they can be on television. The reason they weren’t keen on this product is that from their own very subjective and narrow viewpoint it wouldn’t suit them personally. They were dismissive of the notion they could be bombarded with text alerts.... the reality is that they are not the target market market. However if you are not a multi millionaire and therefore cannot afford private care homes or private nurses for your elderly relatives, it could bring some additional peace of mind at a more affordable price.
Arc angel has detected that Jenny hasnt got out her chair to make a deal in 2 seasons
The preview image is terrifying... Peter sniffing the electrical output, staring at me and ready to pounce if he smells improper voltage..
Knock Knock.
"Who's there?"
Jenny: "I'm out."
This is one time I agreed with Jenny. It makes no sense. He basically explained how to set the system to not alert you when your mum is in the kitchen with a broken hip.
He basically said you figure out how long she spends in there and set the alert for a longer time and if she is then in there for a longer time it’ll alert you. So mum lays in the tub with a broken hip for two hours because you were tired of getting false alerts at 60, 70, 80, 90 min etc. Who would want that?
Actually this is a decent product, but you need to add an AI element to the product that tracks unusual behaviour from the norm. You would need to filter out false alarms, add a heart beat monitor to the package and you have saleable product.
Peter nailed it. Apple’s ‘Fall Detection’ on their watches is EXACTLY what he’s describing.