SmallAnt had at least one more turn. The three mana from Hydra’s Growth wasn’t subtracted so the Prof wouldn’t have been able to play Ram Through at the end. I wish he would’ve rolled at the end so we could’ve at least seen if he died from that 😂 A super fun game though!
So I got to the part where there should have been a pop-up explaining the rules violation but it didn't happen and now I'm seeing all the chat about how she got away with cheating.... So one in the beginning that could be just a mistake ( colorless used as Black happens ), But come on with blatantly doing things out of order,...
As a small learning opportunity for all of us: the Genesis Ultimatum should have resolved entirely, and only then would the Cavalier of Gales trigger go on the stack.
@@yonigle8553 It would actually be: 2 cascades on the stack, resolve one and find ultimatum, cast that, get things on the battlefield put etbs on the stack in the order she decides, resolve them, do second cascade
@@yonigle8553 That's incorrect. "Each instance of cascade triggers and resolves separately. The spell you cast due to the first cascade ability will go on the stack on top of the second cascade ability. That spell will resolve before you exile cards for the second cascade ability. "
@@pintlemounted an eternal masters lp mana crypt is at the very least 140, ar revised lp savannah is around 350 bucks, a brother's war mox amber is at least 25 bucks, yoshimaru is 5 bucks, arcane signet is around a dollar, sol ring is 1.5o dollars so in total he played around 522.5 dollars so no he didn't play thousands worth of card but where the fuck do you get your prices? and where did you se a bayou turn one?
This bugged me so much. Resolve your d*mn trigger on the stack before you resolve your spells, you should know this if you've played with cascade like at all before.
Just a heads up, especially for anybody seeing this and wanting to build malestrom wanderer, there was a large blunder with how things resolve in this game. The Genesis ultimatum has to finish resolving in its entirety before any of those enter the battlefield effects happen. This means that the cavalier of gales does not give her an opportunity to set up the next two cards that Genesis ultimatum flips, which means there could have been a whiff. Whenever a spell is on the stack and is putting cards into the battlefield that spell has the completely resolve before those ETBs can affect anything on the board.
Also, both avenger abilities would have triggered simultaneously (assuming it was in her top 2 before the cavalier messup) because it and stomping ground entered simultaneously, allowing her to get 4 more power on the board.
I was just about to say, as a First Sliver player, I have had to take a course in how these plays resolve(cuz my friends hate my deck and argue any plays I make lol). Bloody made a great deck but fumbled big time. First she didn't finish her Cascade with Maelstrom, and then she didn't finish the Genesis Ultimatum.
He didn't die to the crypt though, he died to a 100+ damage ram through. He could have never taken any damage from crypt and still died to a 100+ damage ram through.
@@EWSwot well, yes, but the two of them were worried about whether Smant would survive the mana crypt so he could get a turn and hopefully take Prof down. even though he DID survive the crypt and get his turn (despite it not helping), they could have worked together to remove the possibility of the crypt killing him entirely
That Genesis Ultimatum was definitely not resolved correctly. You can't resolve the Cavalier of Gales ability until the 5 cards from GU are already decided.
I am at exactly that point in thr video and wanted to write that. Sorry but how cant you not know that you have to resolve a spell completly to start resolving the next thing on top of the stack?! Thats basic Magic. I know its a complicated game but watching this makes me angry xD
Small note on Reikai, History of Kamigawa- He's been erratta'd to read "Whenever you cast". It's an update to the old way of phrasing things (Playing a spell was casting it, back in the day)
25:20 L2 Gemesis Ultimatum should have ended resolving before resolving Cavalier of Gales. You look at the top five cards at the same time and then choose the pernaments that you want to put on the battlefield. All of them enter the battlefield at the same time.
They seem to not be following the rules regarding the way spells resolve, Instead opting for a house rule of action by action resolve. Looks fun either way
I'm not so much surprised that Genesis Ultimatum was resolved incorrectly (even with my main playgroup I find people can make mistakes with these kinds of effects), but more surprised that even the editor missed it and they didn't have one of the Prof's "Judge" moments to explain the issue.
Yeah, that was the part that got me the most... It's ok to make mistakes, but this was such a blatant mistake that they should have at least acknowledge it
@@HeyyItsDaleVODS Bloody should not have been able to brainstorm in the middle of the ultimatum resolution, we don't know what cards she put on top of her deck but for instance she may not have had the avenger of zendikar come in. The brainstorm effect should have been put on the stack after the ultimatum resolved, so she could get one card off of it with the second cascade trigger instead of both cards she put back.
@@caelinjackson-king1208 ty ty. I'm out here trying to watch casually and understand flow of play, love moments like this where the community catches something that should've resolved differently. Big help
@@Caio22011 Either they didn't catch it and weren't thinking, or didn't want to call it out as they'd have to go "yeah the game would be completely different and nothing would have gone the same way". Which people hate hearing, and would spoil a lot of peoples, who didn't catch it, enjoyment of the episode. Regardless it didn't seem malicious, and Bloody died next turn, so it wasn't too bad.
This game just reminds me of a quote my BF always uses: "My mom said I could grow up to be anything I want so I decided to be a problem." At some point in the game, it described every player.
Saw you as a guest and clicked immediately!! I got killed on Saturday the turn before I was going to cast an Eerie Ultimatum on a heavily milled graveyard filled with planeswalkers 😢😢😢
Bloody was definitely supposed to look at all 5 cards from Genesis ultimatum at the same time and put them all into play at the same time and THEN resolve any ETB triggers
So when bloody was resolving the genesis ultimatum and she hit cavalier, she should have had to wait to resolve cavalier until after genesis was done resolving Edit: wasn't expecting this much attention for this post lol. But a couple things, first from what I understand bloody is newish, so understandable that it happened, Second the other players didn't catch it, but I get that, I still make mistakes that I shouldn't lol and playing on camera is probably adding more overall stress to the game, so it's understandable that it happened, and third, I get that people couldn't watch past that point, while I could, some misplays in other games do make it hard to watch, so I think it's some what understandable if people had a hard finishing the video
@@ODIRGO that's not giving her the benefit of the doubt. But yeah I think regardless her behavior glouting and laughing and shit is really obnoxious. Like avoid rubbing it in and apologizing is cringe. Super Cathay that Prof with his janky simple enchantment voltrun killed her
13:15 Nothing is more fundamentally Magic than praying to hit your third land drop, only to draw a 7 drop. Very nice to see Smant in Magic content, keep up the good work!
Prof also miscounted for his ancestral mask. When he first played it, there were seven other enchantments for a grand total of +14/+14. Four from Prof, one from Bloody and two from SmallAnt.
He mistakenly counter his artifacts as enchantments and counted the ancestral mask when it says other. 😅 in the end it doesn't matter tho it was still lethal
I think genesis ultimatum resolves all at once. You don't reveal card after card one at a time. You can't use a creature that brainstorms in the middle of the resolving. But it would impact the second cascade trigger from maelstrom wanderer.
Yes, all spells and effects must resolve completely and anything that gets triggered during the resolution goes on the stack and gets resolved later. This is exploited for example when flickering Toothy, Imaginary Friend, to draw a card for each counter on him when it leaves the battlefield but still put all counters back onto it because of said draws, because the flicker effect must resolve completely before the draws happen.
You should still try doing it yourself. Maybe you catch an error. Like at 50:00 He forgot to count enchantress presence as an enchantment, therefore being 2/2 off. Which funny enough resulted in him being 1 Mana short of casting the snake at the end as someone else found out.
I always appreciate The Professor asking what a card does even if he knows what it is. When I was in college, I always learned best from the professors that taught like they were learning with us even though they knew the content in an out. I appreciate the nuance in what you do The Professor. Keep up the great work. @Tolarian Community College
@51:52 the Hydra's Growth was taken from the 17 floating green mana making the remaining floating mana = 14. Helix Pinnacle for 1 makes floating mana = 13. By then, a player incorrectly says Prof has 17 mana, which Prof corrects to 16, when in fact it was 13. Blanchwood Armor for 3 makes floating mana = 10. Bear Umbra for 4 makes floating mana = 6. Prof still has access to 3 mana by land right now. Nylea's Colossus for 7 means his floating mana is exhausted by 1, meaning that 1 mana needs to come from one of his 3 mana possible from his lands. So at this point he has access to only 2 mana via his lands. He does not have enough mana to play Snake Umbra for 3. That said, he did have the 2 mana to play Ram Through, and did legitimately win. The only error here was playing the Snake Umbra he couldn't play. The Prof did a great job and absolutely deserved this win.
If I am not wrong he miscounted his enchants though as he missed the enchantress presence, so his creature would have another +2/+2 and he would get 2 more green mana. Therefore get enough Mana.
Loved that little Aunty Donna reference. Definitely gonna have to pull out "everything's a swamp" sometime in a game. Overall, this was a really neat idea for a game. It's interesting to pick your ideal 7 in a game like commander where you have a lot of cards to choose from.
Loved the content! I hate to be a downer, I know its a casual game, but there were some rulebreaks in the beginning there. Both Kamahl's Druidic Vow and Genesis Ultimatum must resolve in their entirety before any triggered abilities happen from cards entering the battlefield. So those 3 cards drawn from the ultimatum creature trigger would happen after all 5 cards are drawn/put into play. All triggered abilities would then happen simultaneously and you (the spellcaster) get to choose the order in which you stack those abilities. It can get quite complicated, if you want to keep your sanity don't ever cast 'Eureka' in commander when everyone's got a full hand.
Just played my first proper game of Magic last night and it was so much fun. Everyone was really nice and helpful and it just felt good getting out and socialising with people. The best part was breaking this guy's mono-black combo with a well-placed sorcery. I guess I'll be getting more cards now and the requisite accessories. 😅 Many thanks to this channel!
@@glitchmaster8882 Would have liked to see how the game would have played out differently. Maybe SmallAnt wouldn't have needed to chump with his creatures and have an explosive turn with all of that mana.
Didn’t think I’d see Smant here. Glad to know he’s an even bigger nerd than I thought. Happy to see one of my favorite speed runners play some commander
So Bloody asked for mercy after screwing up her starting 7 choice BADLY (she starved herself out of mana and required multiple lucky draws to do her wombo), had Smallant (the only person who could reasonably attack and steal the crown because of flying and creature availability) not go back on his word and steal the crown (which would have screwed Bloody out of the game), and the FIRST thing she did when she got her engine kicking and her board online thanks to that same crown was attack Smallant with all she had. Essentially, that "parley" everyone had previous to that turn was basically her asking JUST Smallant to not screw her out of the game in turn 3 (because again, Alias didn't have creatures, and Prof couldn't risk screwing over his only source of card draw); in my book, this is grounds for an alliance (at least for a few turns). However, the thing Bloody did was basically get Smallant out of the game immediately, even when he asked for her mercy in return for not stealing the crown earlier. Yeah, sure, she didn't immediately kill Smallant, but the crypt roll could have very well done him in, and considering that Alias summoning Gary again would have done 4 (or more), she pretty much killed him. Top 10 anime betrayals.
I actually love the idea of choosing the starting hand, everyone basically got to do what their deck is intended to do. Would be amazing to see more of this, obviously again without anyone preparing a deck for this very challenge.^^
One of my decks, in that situation, would've taken infinite turns on turn one, with no changes to the decklist. It's a super janky build, designed to do super janky things, but I didn't realize it could do that. 😅 The craziest part is: it's a Boros deck.
nuzlocke draft, 5 pack cube draft but if a creature leaves the battlefield it's removed from your draft pool for the rest of the competition ((this is probably a really bad idea))
@@Jupue yeah that's maybe what I was thinking, I thought 5 packs instead of 3 would be enough of an increase but maybe it does need more, bundle sealed is also a thought
If any game was the game to have a dockside in your opening hand this would have been the game. EDIT: good plays from Prof and I'm actually really tempted to buy that decklist and tinker with it slightly, looks really fun
The deck tech on it convinced me to try something similar, and I'm currently building a janky Thrasta, Tempest's Roar voltron/storm deck along the same veins!
Cabal stronghold doesn't tap for black naturally, you can't resolve triggers or other abilities while others are resolving so cavalier of gales can't have it's etb resolve while you are resolving genesis ultimatum. I'd love to work for you haha!
I greatly enjoyed this show. The interaction between everyone was fun to watch and everyone's decks did the things they wanted to! Thanks for sharing it with us.
@25:25 technically, the genesis ultimatum is supposed to fully resolve then all ETBs happen at once, so cavalier of gales wouldn't be able to set up your ultimatum Love all the content and having some of my favourite poketubers on the show
I really enjoyed watching this. I knew of the channel but have just now gotten a new playgroup so I'm returning. I want to point out that Prof's suit jacket is awesome and all of these decks were really enjoyable to watch go off. Who knew Thrun was so deadly!
@@brandyourfan9244 Which Game Knights Ep. did he win? I only remember him lamenting that he always wins off camera, but the moment they are on, he surely looses
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SmallAnt had at least one more turn. The three mana from Hydra’s Growth wasn’t subtracted so the Prof wouldn’t have been able to play Ram Through at the end. I wish he would’ve rolled at the end so we could’ve at least seen if he died from that 😂
A super fun game though!
So I got to the part where there should have been a pop-up explaining the rules violation but it didn't happen and now I'm seeing all the chat about how she got away with cheating.... So one in the beginning that could be just a mistake ( colorless used as Black happens ), But come on with blatantly doing things out of order,...
is @22:42 an aunty donna reference? Can anyone confirm?
Any chance we can get decklists in description, Proff? Id love to analysis these brews.
Thanks for the invite! Was cool to play with everyone in person for once! 😎
You should do more Magic content!
Seeing you play Magic was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
It was great seeing another Kethis aficionado! We have a surprisingly high overlap in our decks. Way to represent!
HEY that was great
As a small learning opportunity for all of us: the Genesis Ultimatum should have resolved entirely, and only then would the Cavalier of Gales trigger go on the stack.
@@yonigle8553 It would actually be: 2 cascades on the stack, resolve one and find ultimatum, cast that, get things on the battlefield put etbs on the stack in the order she decides, resolve them, do second cascade
no, the second cascade would not resolve before the genesis ultimatum, because cascade forces you to cast the exiled card immediately
@@yonigle8553 That's incorrect. "Each instance of cascade triggers and resolves separately. The spell you cast due to the first cascade ability will go on the stack on top of the second cascade ability. That spell will resolve before you exile cards for the second cascade ability. "
@@symmetrybokte well cascade is a may, so you can choose not to cast. But yes, the second one is after.
Here you are, I was hoping somebody else noticed it.
Everyone elses fist turn: I'll play a few cards Smallant: I'll play thousands of dollars worth of cards because why not
Nah his opening hand didn’t even break 500
@@vinwonsenobi dude played mana crypt bayou- thats well over 500 dollars
@@oldengamer8294 Mana crypt is like 80, and bayou is 2-300. Mox amber is also pretty expensive, but everything other than that was pretty cheap.
@@pintlemounted Cheapest Mana Crypt is like 140 >.>
@@pintlemounted
an eternal masters lp mana crypt is at the very least 140, ar revised lp savannah is around 350 bucks, a brother's war mox amber is at least 25 bucks, yoshimaru is 5 bucks, arcane signet is around a dollar, sol ring is 1.5o dollars so in total he played around 522.5 dollars so no he didn't play thousands worth of card but where the fuck do you get your prices? and where did you se a bayou turn one?
loved the part where he said "it's thrunning time" and then he thrunned all over them
Gross😂
Speedthrunning
Making jokes originating from YGO community in the comment section of a magic channel smh
@@xolotltolox7626 that's how we morbin'
Get better jokes
I love all of this except for bloody not resolving her spell before resolving abilities
I was going to mention this too
Yep, came to see if anyone else caught this. Spells and abilities have to resolve to their entirety before other spells or abilities can resolve.
Same here. Missing the trigger means no trigger. I understand the spirit of the play.
This bugged me so much. Resolve your d*mn trigger on the stack before you resolve your spells, you should know this if you've played with cascade like at all before.
@@bunnyben5607 with multiple cascades, you actually do one spell at a time. the issue is with ultimatum t: an Apex Devastator storm player
And what did we learn? Never let a player playing green have immunity ever.
Didn't expect to see you here. Keep up the good work on the videos.
I hope you have a chef deck!!
That Cavalier of Gales killed me metaphorically
Oh pk fire indeed
The old begging for mercy into evil mastermind play...
Just a heads up, especially for anybody seeing this and wanting to build malestrom wanderer, there was a large blunder with how things resolve in this game. The Genesis ultimatum has to finish resolving in its entirety before any of those enter the battlefield effects happen. This means that the cavalier of gales does not give her an opportunity to set up the next two cards that Genesis ultimatum flips, which means there could have been a whiff.
Whenever a spell is on the stack and is putting cards into the battlefield that spell has the completely resolve before those ETBs can affect anything on the board.
I was thinking the same thing
However, she would've gotten to cascade into one of those two 7-drops anyway instead of the ramp spell.
Also, both avenger abilities would have triggered simultaneously (assuming it was in her top 2 before the cavalier messup) because it and stomping ground entered simultaneously, allowing her to get 4 more power on the board.
@@mrsplays9817 I think the seven drops were drawn with cavalier based on the evil cackle, so she would have gotten at least one of them anyway.
I was just about to say, as a First Sliver player, I have had to take a course in how these plays resolve(cuz my friends hate my deck and argue any plays I make lol). Bloody made a great deck but fumbled big time. First she didn't finish her Cascade with Maelstrom, and then she didn't finish the Genesis Ultimatum.
SmallAnt? Awesome! Now we just need to see The Professor speedrun Mario Odyssey…
Fr i would watch Tolarian Gaming College
Tolarian eSports College
Would genuinely love to see that, no matter how bad it goes
I need to see this.
Please do this
44:34 If she sacced an artifact, it would allow Smant to sac his crypt and survive 100%
They missed a trigger of the crypt a turn before as well.
He didn't die to the crypt though, he died to a 100+ damage ram through.
He could have never taken any damage from crypt and still died to a 100+ damage ram through.
@@EWSwot well, yes, but the two of them were worried about whether Smant would survive the mana crypt so he could get a turn and hopefully take Prof down. even though he DID survive the crypt and get his turn (despite it not helping), they could have worked together to remove the possibility of the crypt killing him entirely
Prof always has such dapper suits, I want an episode of just him showing off his suit collection they're soo good!
I would watch that.
Extremely relatable to see prof go into an Aunty Donna reference while everyone else just looks on in bafflement.
my favorite moment of the episode 100%
Came here to say exactly this!
That's very relatable. Hahaha hahahahaha!
Came here to comment that
I love how he looked around to see if anyone got the reference
That Genesis Ultimatum was definitely not resolved correctly. You can't resolve the Cavalier of Gales ability until the 5 cards from GU are already decided.
I'm watching this game like where is the judge. hahahaha It was a fun game regardless!!!!!
Im thinking exactly that. I mean thats messed up.
I stopped watching the game at this moment, its ridicoulous
I am at exactly that point in thr video and wanted to write that. Sorry but how cant you not know that you have to resolve a spell completly to start resolving the next thing on top of the stack?!
Thats basic Magic. I know its a complicated game but watching this makes me angry xD
Absolutely
“I won’t attack you
….but my creatures might..” 😂
I am so using that
that is classic tanner tricksery
Right after saying 'Even though I did attack you last turn, but...' Which is it SmallAnt?
Small note on Reikai, History of Kamigawa- He's been erratta'd to read "Whenever you cast". It's an update to the old way of phrasing things (Playing a spell was casting it, back in the day)
25:20 L2 Gemesis Ultimatum should have ended resolving before resolving Cavalier of Gales. You look at the top five cards at the same time and then choose the pernaments that you want to put on the battlefield. All of them enter the battlefield at the same time.
I was expecting a Professor pause here but, they somehow missed it.
i guess they just pretended to not notice for the camera
They generally catch after the fact and do the "This was done wrong. In reality..." but there was none. :( A ruling they missed will happen sometimes.
Yes and this mistake could have MASSIVE impact on the game since it messes with the cards revealed by the ultimaturm
They seem to not be following the rules regarding the way spells resolve, Instead opting for a house rule of action by action resolve. Looks fun either way
I'm not so much surprised that Genesis Ultimatum was resolved incorrectly (even with my main playgroup I find people can make mistakes with these kinds of effects), but more surprised that even the editor missed it and they didn't have one of the Prof's "Judge" moments to explain the issue.
Yeah, that was the part that got me the most... It's ok to make mistakes, but this was such a blatant mistake that they should have at least acknowledge it
As someone who knows nothing about the card, how would the game have been affected differently?
@@HeyyItsDaleVODS Bloody should not have been able to brainstorm in the middle of the ultimatum resolution, we don't know what cards she put on top of her deck but for instance she may not have had the avenger of zendikar come in. The brainstorm effect should have been put on the stack after the ultimatum resolved, so she could get one card off of it with the second cascade trigger instead of both cards she put back.
@@caelinjackson-king1208 ty ty. I'm out here trying to watch casually and understand flow of play, love moments like this where the community catches something that should've resolved differently. Big help
@@Caio22011 Either they didn't catch it and weren't thinking, or didn't want to call it out as they'd have to go "yeah the game would be completely different and nothing would have gone the same way". Which people hate hearing, and would spoil a lot of peoples, who didn't catch it, enjoyment of the episode.
Regardless it didn't seem malicious, and Bloody died next turn, so it wasn't too bad.
This game just reminds me of a quote my BF always uses: "My mom said I could grow up to be anything I want so I decided to be a problem." At some point in the game, it described every player.
Defenitly true for Bloody.
Thanks for having us on, Prof! Good times with great people! 😊
Love your channel! Great to see you doing a collaboration with Prof!
Two of my favorite channels in a crossover? good times
Always good to see you suport smaler chanels, like game knights and tolarian, keep on! 😆
Saw you as a guest and clicked immediately!! I got killed on Saturday the turn before I was going to cast an Eerie Ultimatum on a heavily milled graveyard filled with planeswalkers 😢😢😢
I can’t stop laughing at “mill yourself, assert dominance.”
Bloody was definitely supposed to look at all 5 cards from Genesis ultimatum at the same time and put them all into play at the same time and THEN resolve any ETB triggers
she wasnt even supposed to have it resolved tho
her creature that taps for 3 mana allows to spend it ONLY on creatures
@@likagan727 And it was spend on a creature afaik. She used it to cast her commander which cascaded into the ultimatum.
Yep, the mana was cool, @tartarustrommler5454 is right about the other correction.
I love discovering that SmallAnt is a Magic player almost as much as I love prof's suit!
Anyone else mind boggled that Smallant just casually whips that phat $tack of cards out into the table!? Double whammy!!
That suit looks sick
So when bloody was resolving the genesis ultimatum and she hit cavalier, she should have had to wait to resolve cavalier until after genesis was done resolving
Edit: wasn't expecting this much attention for this post lol. But a couple things, first from what I understand bloody is newish, so understandable that it happened, Second the other players didn't catch it, but I get that, I still make mistakes that I shouldn't lol and playing on camera is probably adding more overall stress to the game, so it's understandable that it happened, and third, I get that people couldn't watch past that point, while I could, some misplays in other games do make it hard to watch, so I think it's some what understandable if people had a hard finishing the video
I said 'JUDGE!' out loud lol
Yeah, that part was kinda too much of a mistake, wasn't it? I get small mistakes happening, but this was kinda huge
I was about to say the same thing. It forces you to look at the top 5 THEN they all resolve/etb together…
There were similar mistakes with resolving triggers in the middle of kambals Druidic vow but of not nearly as much consequence
@@Caio22011 yeah I couldn’t watch past that point unfortunately, it wasn’t an honest outcome past that point
That cascade sequence had soooo many errors... it was wild to see😂
Unfortunately many magic the gathering players forget, Reading the card explains the card.
Yeah the laws of the stack were violated
I'm pretty sure the person that cast the cascade card KNEW she was cheating, but because nobody else noticed it, just took advantage of the situation.
@@ODIRGO that's not giving her the benefit of the doubt. But yeah I think regardless her behavior glouting and laughing and shit is really obnoxious. Like avoid rubbing it in and apologizing is cringe. Super Cathay that Prof with his janky simple enchantment voltrun killed her
I did not pay attention, was it the sequencing? Cascade/ultimatum?
13:15 Nothing is more fundamentally Magic than praying to hit your third land drop, only to draw a 7 drop. Very nice to see Smant in Magic content, keep up the good work!
Prof also miscounted for his ancestral mask. When he first played it, there were seven other enchantments for a grand total of +14/+14. Four from Prof, one from Bloody and two from SmallAnt.
True, but it would have still been 22 commander damage so it wouldn't have mattered.
He mistakenly counter his artifacts as enchantments and counted the ancestral mask when it says other. 😅 in the end it doesn't matter tho it was still lethal
Based on his first two turns, I think SmallAnt was speedrunning his health bar to 0
I think genesis ultimatum resolves all at once. You don't reveal card after card one at a time. You can't use a creature that brainstorms in the middle of the resolving. But it would impact the second cascade trigger from maelstrom wanderer.
Yes, all spells and effects must resolve completely and anything that gets triggered during the resolution goes on the stack and gets resolved later.
This is exploited for example when flickering Toothy, Imaginary Friend, to draw a card for each counter on him when it leaves the battlefield but still put all counters back onto it because of said draws, because the flicker effect must resolve completely before the draws happen.
I appreciate the editing having done the math on Thrun's final P/T. Especially after I paused the video for 2 minutes to do the math myself.
You should still try doing it yourself.
Maybe you catch an error. Like at 50:00 He forgot to count enchantress presence as an enchantment, therefore being 2/2 off.
Which funny enough resulted in him being 1 Mana short of casting the snake at the end as someone else found out.
@@sadarot He forgot to count the Mask on the hit that killed Bloody, but it didn't matter much.
History Made: The Professor finally wins a game on his own show!
Best line: "Is this what happens when you win?"
Who knew Prof could build a deck?! And not only that but a deck that would get him his first win!? Congrats on the first and many more to come Prof!
Alias shouldn't have been able to cast Braids on turn 2 cause Cabal Stronghold only taps for colorless, and she needed two black.
Honest mistake, I've done the same thing thinking it was my Cabal Coffers
@@MrDelightful even if it was cabal coffers she would not be avle to Play braids
@Kristian Overgaard I know. I'm saying I've made that mistake.
@@kristianovergaard1112 see how easy it is to read a sentence wrong 😂 you just did it
@@burnsboy101 i know what you wrote and that it dit not translate directly to the situation in question. I did not misunderstand anything here.
This wasn´t a collaboration I was expecting, but i like it! I love both Smallants and the Professors content!
I always appreciate The Professor asking what a card does even if he knows what it is. When I was in college, I always learned best from the professors that taught like they were learning with us even though they knew the content in an out. I appreciate the nuance in what you do The Professor. Keep up the great work. @Tolarian Community College
Great pod. SmallAnt is a natural for these sort of videos, and Bloody is just chaotically fun energy. Alias is obviously a pro.
I clicked for SmallAnt but Bloody stole the show, she was super fun. They all had great banter this episode.
Congrats to the prof for his first win on camera! 🎉
Nah he won on game knights once
@@aaron2cat you missed the recurring joke, it went WAY over your head
@@dominiciannucci5217 🦧
With smallant?! Can't wait to watch!
Imagine choosing your opening 7 and being mana screwed
For a second I thought the prof was going to sacrifice the thrun to mill himself and let smallant win for the memes 😂
Bloody's nails are GORGEOUS
That totem armor wink at the camera was priceless
I thought the same. And then Smant didn't live up to his end and boardwioe anyway
@51:52 the Hydra's Growth was taken from the 17 floating green mana making the remaining floating mana = 14. Helix Pinnacle for 1 makes floating mana = 13. By then, a player incorrectly says Prof has 17 mana, which Prof corrects to 16, when in fact it was 13. Blanchwood Armor for 3 makes floating mana = 10. Bear Umbra for 4 makes floating mana = 6. Prof still has access to 3 mana by land right now. Nylea's Colossus for 7 means his floating mana is exhausted by 1, meaning that 1 mana needs to come from one of his 3 mana possible from his lands. So at this point he has access to only 2 mana via his lands. He does not have enough mana to play Snake Umbra for 3. That said, he did have the 2 mana to play Ram Through, and did legitimately win. The only error here was playing the Snake Umbra he couldn't play. The Prof did a great job and absolutely deserved this win.
If I am not wrong he miscounted his enchants though as he missed the enchantress presence, so his creature would have another +2/+2 and he would get 2 more green mana. Therefore get enough Mana.
Loved that little Aunty Donna reference. Definitely gonna have to pull out "everything's a swamp" sometime in a game.
Overall, this was a really neat idea for a game. It's interesting to pick your ideal 7 in a game like commander where you have a lot of cards to choose from.
Loved the content! I hate to be a downer, I know its a casual game, but there were some rulebreaks in the beginning there. Both Kamahl's Druidic Vow and Genesis Ultimatum must resolve in their entirety before any triggered abilities happen from cards entering the battlefield. So those 3 cards drawn from the ultimatum creature trigger would happen after all 5 cards are drawn/put into play. All triggered abilities would then happen simultaneously and you (the spellcaster) get to choose the order in which you stack those abilities. It can get quite complicated, if you want to keep your sanity don't ever cast 'Eureka' in commander when everyone's got a full hand.
Just played my first proper game of Magic last night and it was so much fun. Everyone was really nice and helpful and it just felt good getting out and socialising with people. The best part was breaking this guy's mono-black combo with a well-placed sorcery. I guess I'll be getting more cards now and the requisite accessories. 😅 Many thanks to this channel!
Professor breaking out the Aunty Donna 'Everything's A Drum' was amazing 😂
This 👆
can someone's willy be a swamp? can you make a willy tap for one black mana?
Did Bloody resolve the Genesis Ultimatum properly? Don't you need to resolve the spell entirely before putting anything else onto the stack?
You're right. I was going to say the same thing. All permanents enter at once, and then they all trigger in whatever order you choose.
@@glitchmaster8882 Would have liked to see how the game would have played out differently. Maybe SmallAnt wouldn't have needed to chump with his creatures and have an explosive turn with all of that mana.
Wait… Smant? Playing commander? With the Prof? On SHUFFLE UP AND PLAY?!
Never knew I needed that 🤩
Eilidh: Are we stealing your thing?
The Professor: Yes!
My mind: You could say, they are stealing your Thrun-der!
Glad I’m not the only one
That's where I hoped she was going with that.
I was so excited to see @SmallAnt playing magic. This is something so amazing that I never knew I wanted
Never thought I'd see Smant and Prof in the same shot. Let alone with Bloody in the mix. Good stuff
SmallAnt was the first streamer I started watching just a few years ago. Love to see him playing Commander!
Didn’t think I’d see Smant here. Glad to know he’s an even bigger nerd than I thought. Happy to see one of my favorite speed runners play some commander
22:42 if Aunty Donna comes on this show I will die of pure joy
That Thrun deck is a banger! Loved to watch it go off. Nice work Proff!
Smallant?? The crossover I had no idea I needed
26:00 genesis ultimatum would have to finish resolving before the ETB for the elemental is done. You don’t stop half way and brainstorm
It's so cool seeing Smallant on this channel! I love your guests Prof!
I love this group. They all so unique but compliment eachother well. I could watch a sitcom where it was these 4 in an apartment, playing magic. Lol
So Bloody asked for mercy after screwing up her starting 7 choice BADLY (she starved herself out of mana and required multiple lucky draws to do her wombo), had Smallant (the only person who could reasonably attack and steal the crown because of flying and creature availability) not go back on his word and steal the crown (which would have screwed Bloody out of the game), and the FIRST thing she did when she got her engine kicking and her board online thanks to that same crown was attack Smallant with all she had.
Essentially, that "parley" everyone had previous to that turn was basically her asking JUST Smallant to not screw her out of the game in turn 3 (because again, Alias didn't have creatures, and Prof couldn't risk screwing over his only source of card draw); in my book, this is grounds for an alliance (at least for a few turns). However, the thing Bloody did was basically get Smallant out of the game immediately, even when he asked for her mercy in return for not stealing the crown earlier. Yeah, sure, she didn't immediately kill Smallant, but the crypt roll could have very well done him in, and considering that Alias summoning Gary again would have done 4 (or more), she pretty much killed him.
Top 10 anime betrayals.
i did NOT expect SmallAnt to appear on the Professor's channel. love it
I actually love the idea of choosing the starting hand, everyone basically got to do what their deck is intended to do.
Would be amazing to see more of this, obviously again without anyone preparing a deck for this very challenge.^^
One of my decks, in that situation, would've taken infinite turns on turn one, with no changes to the decklist. It's a super janky build, designed to do super janky things, but I didn't realize it could do that. 😅 The craziest part is: it's a Boros deck.
Till you have a Thoracle player sitting on the table.
Not only a great first win Prof, but a 3 person KO Thran run. 🎉
Prof I just want you to know on my tombstone the inscription shall read “Reading the card explains the card”!!!🤣🤣🤣
22:42 Was not expecting the Aunty Donna's House of Fun 🙌👏
Love Ant and Bloody, can't wait to see the Prof nuzlocke pokemon for the next collab
nuzlocke draft, 5 pack cube draft but if a creature leaves the battlefield it's removed from your draft pool for the rest of the competition ((this is probably a really bad idea))
You probably need more cards, maybe bundlesealed could work
@@Jupue yeah that's maybe what I was thinking, I thought 5 packs instead of 3 would be enough of an increase but maybe it does need more, bundle sealed is also a thought
Holy cow
Smallant has way more luxurious hair than I thought
Ant Colony rise up
omg bloody and smant in here, that's so nice to see :D big fan of both of em
Bloody's self narration when they were going off is the most theaterically hilarious thing
I couldn't stand it
Thanks for the video! Coming back to Magic after being gone from the paper version for years. This helped me out tremendously.
I went to university with SmallAnt for a bit, its wild to see whats he's done and now, on a Tolarian Community College? Wow, super cool stuff
Switched from uni to TCC. Much more enjoyable learning environment. Was a great decision
@@Smallant Haha I agree. I missed that memo that went out or I would've switched too. Prof seems like his environment is much more fun ! :P
Love this group energy! Besides, prof and smant was the combination I never knew I needed
at 6:25 she cant play her commander as it requires 2 black and a collorless but she only has one black mana
Also I think you look at the cards with the ultimatum and THEN you play them and resolve triggers
Prof doing his best to make an Aunty Donna reference. All well time to get in the kiln.
I said don’t get in the kiln!!!! Get out of the kiln.
@@TolarianCommunityCollege Oh thank you it was quite hot in there 🥵
when Prof says he didn't even looked to edhrec, the close captions say "edh Shrek" lol
congrats on the win and the great deck Prof, loved tron Thrun!
If any game was the game to have a dockside in your opening hand this would have been the game.
EDIT: good plays from Prof and I'm actually really tempted to buy that decklist and tinker with it slightly, looks really fun
The deck tech on it convinced me to try something similar, and I'm currently building a janky Thrasta, Tempest's Roar voltron/storm deck along the same veins!
I never knew that Smallant plays Magic! I can't say I have favorite RUclipsrs, but Smallant is def up there. This news just makes things better.
Rewatching this video: Im pretty sure I want to play magic with Small Ant as badly as I want to play with Post, but for different reasons 😂
Cabal stronghold doesn't tap for black naturally, you can't resolve triggers or other abilities while others are resolving so cavalier of gales can't have it's etb resolve while you are resolving genesis ultimatum. I'd love to work for you haha!
Smallant had an Urborg out, making all lands swamps.
This is such a nostalgic video for me. Watching Anthony Play Legends tribal is something I can't get enough of!
Ah, that wink from the Prof because SmallAnt missed something. Very cheeky. A very fun & cool video, love the conceit for it.
OMG the crossover i never knew i needed! I love Smant! he's such a chill dude and his content is great!
I was so excited to see Smant and he did not disappoint even a single bit!
Once he won on camera in Game Knights, he became UNSTOPPABLE!
I greatly enjoyed this show. The interaction between everyone was fun to watch and everyone's decks did the things they wanted to! Thanks for sharing it with us.
You know Prof, even if the table did t get your sweet aunty donna reference just now that I did, and I appreciated it
Omgggg no way! I had no idea smallant plays mtg. Best crossover 2023!!
Congrats to Prof’s second win on camera!
Omg, smallant plays magic!
How did I not know this already
Heya! Just wanted to comment that i just got my xxl deckbox from your kickstart! Im so glad i got it! Thanks for making such a great box
I am really happy for your first victory, Prof.
Finally after years of making MtG content, it was bound to happen.
The crossover we didnt know we wanted
Bloody: I’m so weak
1 rotation later
Bloody: power, unlimited power!!!
I'm a bit sad that for all the Thrun puns we got... nobody said "Thruntron".
VolThrun
@25:25 technically, the genesis ultimatum is supposed to fully resolve then all ETBs happen at once, so cavalier of gales wouldn't be able to set up your ultimatum
Love all the content and having some of my favourite poketubers on the show
I really enjoyed watching this. I knew of the channel but have just now gotten a new playgroup so I'm returning. I want to point out that Prof's suit jacket is awesome and all of these decks were really enjoyable to watch go off. Who knew Thrun was so deadly!
Glad the Prof could finally get a game on camera that he won, after years he has finally proven that he is, in fact, capable of wining a game of Magic
He has won on camera before.
He won on a very popular commander channel, in fact.
Spoiler...
It was Game Knights
@@brandyourfan9244 Which Game Knights Ep. did he win? I only remember him lamenting that he always wins off camera, but the moment they are on, he surely looses
@@PUDRETE919 Spoiler...
He wins the Brothers War episode.
Congrats Professor on designing a deck on your own, maybe you win a game with it some day! :D
Lol I didn't know SmallAnt could play magic, but I'm not really that surprised either
First time ive seen you not be the first one out in commander. Nice to see you pop off for the first time too.
okay i am going to order RAM THROUGH right now for my new multani and yargle commander. thanks for the tip, Prof!