David Glenn Lewis - Mystery Man
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2022
- David Glenn is reported missing while a mystery man dies in a hit-and-run incident. But how and why did this happen? The real answers are still a mystery.
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Fun fact. My mothers funeral was crashed by a complete stranger. It was a tiny service of about 20 people held in a chapel in a cemetery. An elderly and casual dressed gentleman joined the mourners and sat through the entire service. I asked the funeral directors who he was and they said that he lived near the cemetery and had a habit of attending random funerals. He wasn’t disruptive, he just sat up the back quietly. The funeral directors asked us if we wanted them to move him on but we thought that mum would have got a kick out of it. So we left him be. So I guess funeral crashing is actually a thing.
My father and his brothers used to crash family reunions for the free food. If challenged, they'd just say "I'm John's cousin-in-law" because, statistically, everybody in the US has a relative named John.
@@DeliveryMcGee and given the size of some family reunions, good chance of not being noticed in the first place.
@@DeliveryMcGee I have an uncle John and a cousin John on different sides. Lots of repeat names, though I'd rather have repeats than a cousin's kid named Malibu Barbie or Bliss.
@@christinebenson518 i see you also know about trisha’s baby
Funeral Crashing ( respectfully) was brought to the public's attention in the American film, "Harold and Maude" (1971).
On people who randomly go to funerals: they may also be people who feel like they're doing a service, making sure that the deceased gets mourned by someone, at least for a little bit, because every human has worth, etc.
Edit: He may not have had that rare clinical dissociative fugue, or any dissociative disorder at all, but he could still have had a dissociative-esque episode without that. Part of this thought is definitely me projecting, because I've had at least one period. Mild stressors all piled up and I stopped being entirely rational, though fortunately not to his degree since I also had a pretty rigid life schedule/framework, but I was basically operating on automatic, and very little of that period made it into my long term memory. Later I looked back at some work I had saved on my computer and it was the only proof I had that I had actually done anything. The period only lasted a few days, and it's been almost a decade, but sometimes it still scares me when I look back at it.
I was thinking the same thing with the random people going to a funeral of a Jane/John Doe. It's one of those things where I don't think it's so much for enjoyment as it is a sense of duty to your fellow human being. Idk, in a weird way it makes sense to me
Not sure if it happens elsewhere, but here it's not uncommon for people to join funeral of strangers (as in, it's funeral of known person, but along family, friends etc, some people attending don't know them at all), I think some people treat it as a little bit different church service, also I would agree that the feeling "well, what if no one comes? will they leave completely alone?" comes to it. Often it's older people, so maybe they also think "If I happen to be in this situation, maybe some stranger will come to my funeral too, so I'm not leaving completely alone".
I think Simon is not a believer, so he probably can't understand the sentiment? (But then for nonbeliever sentiment of funeral must be kinda macabre, basically saying goodbye to a corpse).
@@PetrSojnek honestly, it's one of those things where I don't know if you necessarily need to believe in an afterlife to just feel like every person deserves to be missed, remembered, even if only for a little bit by a stranger. Obviously if you believe in an afterlife it can be a little more significant, but even still, even if you don't, I can imagine still thinking that everyone deserves a goodbye, even if they're not necessarily around to care
i do think he may have been dissociated while walking down the street, i have a dissociative disorder and it has caused me to do that sort of thing. however, i thinkbits more likely he had some sort of midlife crisis, and the dissociation was a one-off thing
I would totally go to a John/jane doe funeral, it's sad to think someone could have a funeral with no one there.
During COVID there were people buried with no attendees at the funeral, I read an article in which they interviewed an undertaker who described feeling upset for the deceased whose family could/would not attend. Very sad.
I once had a "psychotic break" and almost succeeded in suicide. Ended up with 18 staples in my neck. The paramedics had trouble gripping me to lift me onto the gurney because there was so much blood. Don't let your anxiety level get out of control.
Jesus Christ. So glad you're ok bro.
Back in the early ‘90’s I worked with a guy whose rented house backed onto a cemetery. Quite often he would see a funeral in progress, he’d get a suit on and join in with the mourners. Listen to the priest etc and he would glean enough to pay commiserations to family and often go back to the local club or pub for a wake. “Where’d you know Harry from? Oh, worked with him years ago….want a beer?” Apparently, he rated them on how good a spread they put on.
He was weird.
Well that's crashing funeral for free meals etc during he wake. But a funeral for unknown there's nothing to get 🤔
There is a misconception a lot of people in the US have, mostly from movies/TV shows, that you can't report a missing person's case unless they have been missing for at least 24 hours. This was much more prominent in the 90s as that's when the tv trope was at its height and it wasn't yet common knowledge that the first 48-hrs are the most crucial to finding a missing person. That's probably why she waited if I had to guess. It was a VERY prominent misconception.
It's actually thanks to Brandon's Law that you can report even an adult missing immediately. Brandon Swanson's parents lobbied to put it into law to be able to report people missing as soon as you become worried.
It used to be the routine for law enforcement to disregard missing reports of adults as you have the right to leave if you want. I'm not saying it was right but most police had little resources back then, we now have the Internet, it's much harder to go missing on purpose.
There is actually a very interesting book writhen by a Norwegian comedian and punk rocker name "Kristopher Schau" with the title: 'På vegne av venner" (on behalf of friends).
Where he spends a year going to public funeral services arranged by th county for people that die, but have no family or anything to arrange a funeral.
And of course, the classic, Harold and Maude, which is fiction, but still good. :D
Regarding strangers at funerals, I've seen veterans groups announce the death of a veteran without surviving so there would be someone there to send them off. I also heard at least one true crime story where detectives on a Jane Doe case (found skull) were the attendees for the burial.
We still call out retired military funerals as most don't have surviving family. Patriot Riders often show for military funerals.
John and Jane Does almost always have their funeral attended by a member of the department that found them and the funeral director. Firstly, if they died under suspicious circumstances then it's a chance to look to see if anyone is watching from a distance. And secondly, it's considered to be proper form to send them off with a mourner. In some cultures it's believed you can't enter the afterlife if you have no mourners so it's considered a respectable thing to do. I know that my grandparents never had funerals and were cremated and the funeral director said that they hold a small service for everyone even if it's just him and his assistant in attendance.
Yeah, it's very common for strangers to turn up at john/jane doe burials. Some are the people on the case, but there are people that turn up because they believe that everyone should have someone mourn for them.
Simon, it is common in America for people to attend burials especially for veterans. There are many homeless veterans without family. Also some religious people attend burials for unknown homeless as a sign of respect.
For John Does, usually the cops/medics/firefighters/coroner's department people that handled the case will show up for the funeral, just so the dead person has somebody to mourn them, because people gonna people, most people would feel weird about not giving them a proper funeral.
Irish funerals too have loads of random people show up just to show respect for the dead. Totally common
@@johnny.thetshirtguy3545 Paying respect, or mooching off the open bar? Probably a bit of both.😃
@@DeliveryMcGee Which is why you never advertise the post funeral meal in the funeral plans that go at the end of an obituary but invite the attendees at the end of the service, especially if you will be having it someplace other than the church hall.
When my son was deployed in the USMC, I attended the wake of a young Marine whose family I didn’t know in a state I’d just moved to. His parents were very gracious and didn’t think it strange. A strong camaraderie exists among military families.
Simon, here’s a story recommendation. Do one about Andrew Carter Thornton II, often called the “sky smuggler.” It’s a crazy story and very interesting. Here is a short quote from a news article about him.
“At the scene, police discovered the body of Andrew (Drew) Carter Thornton II, 40, clad in combat fatigues, a bulletproof vest and infrared night goggles. Thornton was carrying two handguns, a stiletto, the keys to an airplane, a money belt with $5,000 and six krugerrands, survival food, and 34 kilos of pure cocaine.”
Lots of other interesting things were going on with this. Definitely a good one.
Total byartch to get run over like that when he was just carrying the takings from his last shift at the local Salvation Army Charity Shop to the bank.
Do one about the reverse Underground Railroad
Cocaine bear
@@Dopecheetah 🤣 That movie looks absolutely nuts
@@IuItimwhat is that…in basic terms?
Would be cool to see you cover the disappearance of Richey Edwards from Manic Street Preachers. Very strange situation, lots of weird clues & a book recently came out, written with the co-operation of his family & with pages from his journals, that made me totally change my mind from 'totally topped himself' to 'probably started a new life'
Totally my era. Will make a note 👍🏼
Be very interested to hear that as the current hypothesis is very sad (as is any suicide, they're all tragedies)
@@katywatson4940 yay! Book is called 'Withdrawn Traces' & some interesting bits include a family history of some of his relatives just nopeing out of normal day to day lives via wandering off & starting over again overseas or opting out of society & becoming hermits. The journal entries & interviews with eg, people who knew him in the psych hospital prior to him vanishing are fascinating too. When he'd disappeared, he left a mystery box of random clues that included a photo of a building that's yet to be identified. All very odd!
I've never heard of that story. It sounds strange and interesting.
that sounds fascinating, I will check this one out! I can't imagine how heartbreaking and frustrating it would be to have someone just disappear. The possibility of him up and starting a new life is an added bit of chaos to that already difficult scenario.
Reminds me of the Maura Murray case. Ran away from home and responsibility, then ran into bad people by bad luck.
I dont know of other countries, but in my country of Norway, yes, they do hold a service for unknown people, or people who just dont have anyone to pay and take care of the funeral. The local council takes care of it, pays the priest and the burial/cremation fees, and they hold a service as if the church was full. There was a guy who wrote a book about this a few years ago, and for research he attended many of these services.
The army fatigues could’ve been worn as a way to deter people from asking for an ID, especially if there was a base nearby. Back then, you’d be a lot less likely to get ID’d at an airport if people thought you were a soldier
There are a couple crazy sites not far from there. Hanford which Simon has discussed before and bordman Umatilla which Simon needs to cover
@@Jezus42There’s also an airbase a little to the north.
Simon: Host of The Casual Criminalist.
Simon also: No one will steal my info from my car and kill me.
As someone who once tried to end it, let me tell you what went thru my mind. I choose an area and location far from everyone who could identify me, so no one I loved would find the body. I know that seems silly, but to me at that moment in my messed up thoughts, it was extremely important.
Not because you did not want to be identified, but because you didn’t want to be stopped.
@@kmlammto No. I honestly was worried about someone I knew finding me and the trauma it might cause them. I would have rather been a Jane Doe then hurt someone I knew, having to find me. I know that sounds weird. No one was ever going to stop me because no one knew I needed stopped. I wasn't saved by anyone...I was saved by the thought of my youngest without a mother, and that was when I was actually drowning. I saved myself for him. I'm alive because I can't abandon my children, even if I'm the worst person ever... they still need me.
This is heartbreaking. I hope you’re doing better now and you have the help you need.
@@rayaterry5365 yes much. Thank you for asking. I have meds and an amazing counselor.
Lady:
Thank you for sharing your story and I hope you have adequate access to whatever mental health services you need to help you cope. You're brave to share such a personal subject on a public comments section and I appreciate your comment. Stay safe and be well.
As a Washington state native, I just love hearing Simon try to pronounce some of our local place names. 😄 I'm sure I can't pronounce most places in the UK, either. YAK-im-ah, the i is pronounced similarly to the i in cabin or into and the emphasis is on the first syllable.
There are plenty of military bases and grounds on both sides of the state, but I'd expect John Doe's prints to show up in military records if he was from a nearby base.
As an Oregon native I can say that I feel the same.
Has Simon had pronounce Puyallup yet? I get a kick out of how he pronounces local names. Lol
@@Tommie_the_wrath_of_Khan I keep waiting for it. Maybe we should lobby for a story set in Puyallup or Sequim?
As an Oregonian who has family from the Yakima Valley I go crazy when Simon does northwest ish stuff
@@AllTheHappySquirrels or Steilacoom
Washington has had a fair number of cases of people not from the area being found dead there, and then taking years to be identified. Though the identification sheds no light on why they went there or how. Oregon has a few such cases too. One famous case is Lyle Stevik, who would be a great story for this channel. He was identified after like 17 years. Then there's the case of Mary Anderson, who hasn't been identified after 26 years.
You know, it doesn't have to be a rare case of disassociation, it can just be an average psychotic episode from a sudden onset of a mental disorder triggered by stress. If it was and he was paranoid, everything else makes sense including buying several tickets etc (psychosis doesn't effect your capabilities in that regard) 😊🍀✨it doesn't have to be more complicated than that 😊🍀✨
If he CHOSE to disappear, wouldn’t a lawyer with connections to help women (who were victims of domestic violence) get away from their situation know how to do that without all of this messy trail of chaotic choices behind him?
He bought a ticket to where his wife had gone. I bet he caught her cheating. Imagine spending your life helping women, just for the one you love to betray you. Seems like that explains everything to me.
1:35 - Chapter 1 - RIP John Doe
4:35 - Chapter 2 - Re ee wind
6:00 - Chapter 3 - The known timeline
17:00 - Chapter 4 - 1 man, 2 mysteries
20:00 - Chapter 5 - The theories
I worked in a nursing home and we had people that were really intelligent but had suffer from dissociative fugues. The one gentleman just start driving and at least had the presence of mind to call 911 to say he was lost. He was 5 states over from his destination and he had to have been speeding or unaware of speed limits bc the time line didn’t match up either. He would randomly be incredibly intelligent and then ask where he was at when in the nursing home. So just keep in mind that neurologists have barely scratched the surface of the human mind and it does leave us with more questions than answers.
Good summation - I'm with Simon on this one; he wanted out, flew to Washington under an assumed name (why he chose Washington may be precisely because he had no prior link to the state, or he liked the idea of it) and somehow ended up on this road, which is perhaps the strangest element of the case along with the absence of the stack of money - was he robbed when he arrived, perhaps by a taxi driver who then pushed out of his cab in the middle of nowhere?
That...may be
IMO he was attempting to disappear. Sounds to me like he just might have felt overwhelmed and had the sort of breakdown where you're still lucid and rational, but are emotionally drained and can no longer cope with life. So he bought the misleading tickets, actually flew to Yakima, bought himself new clothes and removed his rather distinctive glasses to make himself less recognizable. In this scenario he was walking because he had no car. While you could get on a plane back then without showing ID, you definitely needed one to rent a car and to legally drive one, and since he'd done this on the spur of the moment he had no new identity prepared. The hit-and-run that killed him was just bad luck, although it was bad luck he'd set himself up for walking by himself wearing camo in the dark without his glasses on.
This would explain why he left so much in his car Inc his house keys as he thought he would not need these again once he had disappeared and just left the wedding ring and watch for his wife at home
The taxi driver says that he had a large amount of cash with him so maybe once he discovered that he could not hire a car at the airport without the I'd he excepted a lift from a stranger who took his money and then left him on the road side where he decided to walk And I guess we know how the story ends
I think the point on going to strangers' funerals is so that no one goes alone. Whether you believe in an afterlife or not, it think it is important to have someone stand over you when you're laid to rest.
My Grandma always went to funerals of strangers where there was a small turnout. She did the flowers in the church for years so she would know who was being buried. No idea what her motivation for the funerals was, I wish I'd asked.
My friend's grandmother passed away she was a very very very bad person, really a nasty person, but a bunch of people who we didn't know showed up at her funeral. Who came there only because they had nothing better to do with their lives and they'd get a free lunch so I think that's what motivates some older folks to go to strangers funerals just for something to do
@@JohnDoe-vn1we that's weird. I can understand one or two old ladies, but a whole bunch of people? Maybe she had a life nobody knew about?
Reason why some random people show up to funeral with small turn out. Is to show that others care. Then you got the people who want the food at the wake.
There used to be professional mourners, people paid to be present at a funeral. There were two or three extra people at the funeral of my wife's grandmother. I don't know if they were paid, but it is nice when people have respect for strangers that they would witness the event.
This is a long standing Jewish tradition.
I can’t tell if Simon is super sheltered or if crime is just non-existent in Simon’s city because we left a scarf in a car for a whopping 6 hours and someone threw a safety cone through the back window. I wouldn’t leave anything in a car I wasn’t okay with having stolen.
Okay, but Simon's pronunciation of Yakima is precious 🥺
It's like him not recognizing "Swindle" outright. His mini-rant on names for law firms reminded me of the old joke about the law firm: Dewey, Cheatem and Howe. Read it fast, all as one sentence. 😉
My grandfather lived in the Yakima (YAK-i-ma) Washington area for over 50 years, and Moxee is a small town up the road. I'd heard of the situation and it stuck with me since I'm vaguely familiar with the area from visiting my grandpa.
Yeah it is the first time I heard it spoken with a hard i instead of a soft i. Yak eh ma
Whenever I hear "Yakima" it always makes me think of an old iCarly episode that it was mentioned in 😅
That's how my cousins out there pronounce it.
There are counties where, if you die without any relatives, etc. without even being a Doe, they will assign a minister and, in at least one, a poet to make a poem to be read at the funeral. In the case of Does, many people may attend from sympathy for the unknown.
Yakima is pronounced YAK-im-a.
And you have no idea how much I want to say that Moxee is pronounced Worcestershire.
Having once dated a person from Redmond, WA, I was going to complain about the pronunciation too. (Two guesses as to who her dad worked for. :p )
@@DeliveryMcGee I once had a issue with my xbox and got an offshore call center. Long story short I got mad hung up called the Microsoft front office and was all I don't know who I need to talk to but.....secretary "how did you get this number" me I live in Portland I have it there by end of business.
In the US, John and Jane Does that are buried often have their funerals attended by 'strangers'. If their death involves suspicious circumstances, they are frequently the coroner/medical examiner and the investigating officer. In some communities there is a sort of "on-call" schedule for attendees. I've "crashed" a funeral myself once. It was a beautiful ceremony and the graveyard I was in is a tourist location and historical landmark. Some of the tombstones are actually benches because its just a very beautiful place to take a nice walk.
This case reminds me of the suspicious death of Edgar Allan Poe. He disappeared for a few days, but was found in a different set of clothes.
As for what possibly could've happened, part of me thinks that he could've been lured to Washington. I do wonder, if another pathologist were to take a look at his autopsy report, would they conclude that ALL of his injuries were the result of the Hit and Run.
Poe, regrettably, died from rabies. He was trying to play with stray cats, and was likely not sober.
Got an uncovered story that's close to my heart. The missing four from kenai alaska. 8 months of search parties. Giant story at the time. Quietly forgotten since. Whole family, including the family dog slain. Maybe it was murder suicide, maybe it was his drug connections. Rumors of hitman, and police involvement. No ending, no conclusive official report ever given. "He killed them then himself." That's about it.
After hearing the list of his activities, suicide or fugue became much more likely to me. I've known a couple of people who were unable to say no to anyone, and their lives really became hell.
It reminds me of that family in Australia. The parents convinced their 3 adult kids that they were in terrible danger and they all took off without passports or phones and just took cash. The parents were absolutely convinced that they would be followed and needed to throw people off their track. The son took his phone and his parents freaked out when they discovered this saying they could be tracked. They ended up splitting up and all acting erratically except the son. This case just seems like it happened to him and that's why he ended up wandering in the road.
I think that one was a case of folie à deux.
IM AUSSIE AND THAT CASE WAS INSANE
I can't wait for my next meeting to be over to watch this. Why must my life be meetings instead of more Whistle boy long form content?!
I feel you bro
Damn boss or client calling again
Im watching this at work right now xD (though my work is very very informal - i just make sure two early-20s autistic brothers are getting along when their parents are busy)
Sounds like you choose the wrong profession. Janitors can listen to this as they work. Lol
Hey I know I'm on the wrong channel but are you getting more notebooks soon? They are amazing and I want one in the uk! :) love your tangents, never change. In fact add them to the serious channels :)
A decoding the unknown book could be awsome too. Think about it: illuminate symbols, various numbers, crop circle designs.
Ya but I want a not my crimes notebook so I can write my crimes down in it.
Haha I love Simon's pronunciations for Washington's towns. It's more like Yak (the animal)-ama. Yakima. All non-native Washingtonians have difficulty saying towns like Puyallup, Snoqualmie, Issaquah, Kamilche, and Quillayute to name a few.
It's gonna be hilarious when every Toyota Prius in Prague gets broken into by that crazy fan looking for Simon's keys.
I love listening to Simon working out his life whilst telling these tales!
27:30 -- Plane tickets at the time did indeed have the passenger's name on them. It's just that you weren't usually required to show your ID to prove you were that person. In fact, if they weren't restricted economy fare tickets, they were essentially as good as cash.
I think he had a mental breakdown, exhibited all the weird behavior that was witnessed, then flew to Washington under a different name and wandered onto the highway and got hit by the car. I honestly think that the plane tickets found were for different David Lewis's. It's an incredibly common name.
I entered your symptoms into WebMD and it turns out you have something called "network connection error".
Your theory matches mine. He had way too many irons in the fire to make a restful life.
There is NO traffic! The chances of making that drive in time are great as there are few people, fewer towns, and hardly any police along any route through that part of the US. Most of it is up highway 287 and in the mountains/foothills so you can easily 100+ mph 75% of the drive. The only slowdown would be Denver and thats really only around rush hour
"Got a wife and kids in Baltimore, Jack
I went out for a ride and I never went back
Like a river that don't know where it's flowing
I took a wrong turn and I just kept going" - Bruce Springsteen, "Hungry Heart".
Simon, in my town, homeless or John Does get free burials, and if they have no family the newspaper will ask for the public to attend . I've been to two John Doe funerals because they have no family.
Simon, keep your keys on you and always lock your car!!! Doesn't matter if the crime rate is low; it's never zero.
it would be if we would start executing criminals.
There's many places where people don't lock their cars or front door, at least when their home.
I do understand why that's so rare and unfeasible in many areas but honestly, in isolated small towns or islands stuff like that can work fine without anything significant or horrible happening.
@@loralea3142 A few years ago a man in a blaze orange jacket got into a running pick up in the grocery store parking lot. It was winter in Minnesota. He drove the truck to the grocery store pharmacy drive thru and attempted to rob them. After he failed, he re parked the truck and walked away. We have under 4,500 people in our town.
@@christinebenson518 oh lord.. where do i start?
America is so very different and currently uniquely fucked and wierd in this regard.. and i don't mean that disrespectfully or to minimize, just a lot of extra tangles from an outside perspective.
I guess i should be clear the populations in the towns here is more like ~800, some of the islands have like 100 permanent occupants and seasonal workers and visitors. None are isolated or disconnected nowadays but with my countries 144k population (excluding the capital region) spread out, most places are pretty damn safe and trusting. It's really crazy how different the underlying attitude of people can be depending on community structure.
@@loralea3142 and people being more trusting makes criminal jobs easier when they do strike. Unlocked house is easier to robbed than a locked one same with a car.
That is true no matter where you live. I know people who live in remote areas in the US that leave their doors unlocked, until there been string of robberies in the area, or worst because the criminal can just walk in.
Simon in regards to people who go to funerals for people they don't know. There's an organization called "nobody dies alone" And it's volunteers and they spend time with people who are in hospice or in the hospital expecting to die and they spend time with this person before they pass. I imagine those people attend that person's funeral.
I appreciate this channel. I can go to a multitude of others for these stories concluding with “ooh spooky ghost did it” and that’s great for when you want that, but it’s nice to have someone giving an ACTUAL explanation
To the random funeral goers, it depends on who died. Usually, the people who find them and the officials involved will show up to make sure they get a proper sendoff. I remember a story of a girl being found murdered and the police officers who found her were the majority of people at her funeral, along with a smattering of other officials.
YAK-i-mah not Ya-KI-mah. The best law firm name ever was "Johnson Cram & Harder."
Johnson Cram’n’Harder lmao
Dewey, Cheatam & Howe.
Unless he had a 1970s vintage VCR and was still using it - it had a timer. Now they were fairly hard to program (hence codes for the lazy like VCR+) but you could generally program stuff for a week or 2 ahead. Source I bought 2 VCRs in 1984 (I returned one) and they both could record ahead. The only other possibility is his remote might have been missing or not working - because I think to program my VCR I needed the remote which came with it.
He might have been on his way into a psychotic state when he used his own name, as these things aren't necessarily just instant transformations of a person and could be preceded by stress and paranoia. Even if it was a sudden thing, he may have used the name and information on the ID he found in his own wallet. He may have driven around to places with addresses in any paperwork he found in the car in order to try to get his bearings.
It is true that he may have wanted to disappear as part of a midlife crisis. I am in the middle of one of those right now and I will readily admit to having watch bushcraft videos online and then disappearing into the wild to try some of these things out. That's always been somewhat of my personality type but the existential crisis of middle age has contributed to it significantly. I do always text my family when I'm gone, though, but there weren't cell phones like that in the early 90s and, had he gotten the urge to go stealth camping, it's not exactly like there were abundant pay phones in the wilderness even though we can often get a cell phone signal in them at least sometimes.
I’ve lived in/around Amarillo for most of my life and I’ve never heard about this, that’s crazy! Hell, if he had stuff to do with the scouts in that time period I bet I know quite a few people that knew him!
Also, Dumas is pronounced like Doo-mas, or if you know someone from there and you’re talking to them about it it’s pronounced like dumb-ass 😂
I’m originally from Dumas and lived in Amarillo for several years as an adult. I wasn’t living there when Lewis disappeared, though, and apparently, he’s rarely talked about there. I do recall, however, when D.A. Danny Hill committed suicide. Combined with the mysterious disappearance of Lewis, I wonder about the cases and stresses of Amarillo attorneys in the early 90’s.
Would be really interesting to see Simon's perspective of the Ghosts of Eastern Airlines Flight 401 in 1973. So many witnesses saw the same thing, it's really thought provoking.
Love double Simon fridays.
He could have been in the middle of a planned disappearance , during which he had a dissociative fugue. Both.
Also, with psychotic episodes, you still maintain your level of intelligence. It's logic and reasoning that kind of go usually. And things like memory and linear thought. Dude could have been in the middle of a well planned out disappearance, entered a fugue state, then remembered he was leaving his life behind, but didn't remember what he had to do next. So he has to start a whole new plan while it's already well under way. That's not going to make sense to anyone else.
Psychotic episode due to over-stressed lifestyle, aka "breakdown", seems the most likely given the symptoms & the rarity of fugue states. But we'll never know for sure.
@@felicitybywater8012 you're right, it doesn't have to be a fugue state, that's just one type of psychotic episode. He could have dissociated, suffered paranoid delusions or any other flavour of psychosis. Fugues are rare, but since that was the specific type of psychotic episode that's been mentioned, yeah, planned disappearance + fugue. But even a manic psychotic episode or something else. I thought of this- psychotic episode triggered by the stress of him deciding to leave and start a new life.
yep I have paranoid tendencies, and it's hard work to stay grounded in reality but this is a side effect of a medication I take for sezures. it's not like you see in the movies it;s more like you make weird decisions and have a sense of grandeur or a self-imposed type of depression.
Great episode, Simon. And allow me to compliment you on your cool set design, clothes and lighting. Very easy on the eyes. Kudos!
Absolutely love these videos
Simon,
I listen to your myriad channels on my way to/from work everyday (1.5hrs riding). Please keep up the good work, but speak a little closer to the microphone (it’s hard to hear you over the wind noise in my helmet sometimes)
Katy,
As my family says “hold what you’ve got” ie. PLEASE KEEP DOING WHAT YOURE DOING. I know “fact boi” needs scripts and I honestly search for what y’all have come up with EVERY morning before the long hours on the road.
Truly adore Katy's scripts! Definitely one of my faves of the SWU (Simon Whistler universe) along with Danny, Arnaldo, Kevin, etc!
Ooo! One of a few I had recommended over the last year. One of my favorite mysteries.
Simon this episode was killing me every time you mispronounce the name of a city in the state I live in I was correcting you out loud LOL I thought they gave you pronunciation guides LOL.
It's Dumbass, right? lol😁
Was laughing also. Never heard Yakima pronounced like that 🤣
😂😂😂 love it
The number of times I snarled YEAH kimmuh under my breath thru this... My co worker thinks I'm bonkers.
I work in billing and I always get a kick out of calls I get when they try saying Okanogan and Wenatchee
Fugue states seem to come up a lot - great topic for a video covering some known cases
Hell yeah! Always look forward to getting my daily dose of fact boy and those sweet sweet memes
One thing about the records regarding airlines: the *airline* probably had the records somewhere in its filing system, but its filing system was probably entirely on paper, quite possibly with matching parts of records in entirely different offices, etc, and it'd be a major hassle to actually assemble all this information to line everything up such that you have all information about flights made by an unknown number of Davids Lewis. The cops would probably have the authority to request this be done (search warrants have considerable power to enforce corporate cooperation when properly wielded) but the results of this would be less likely to be disclosed to the media for this timeline source Katie's working from than the initial bits of information about the tickets existing.
I hope I'm not the only woman from the US screaming that if someone is stalking you and your family they will know where you live, where you work, what brand of toilet paper you buy, and how they're going to chop up you and your family after they take your keys from your car. You need to stop focusing on your list of what not to do as a criminal and start thinking of ways you could be a victim of a criminal. Especially since you've put yourself on the internet and have a following. I'm going to have an anxiety attack on your behalf😭
Decode this, Whistler! Thank you for another great vid.
I love Simons' scepticism.
Your rego documents definitely have your address on them. And it's a whole bunch cheaper to carry your keys than to re-key a car, especially if you have keys with an electronic component, like any keys for a car built since 2000.
As someone born, raised and still living inWashington, it's fun to listen to you mispronounce our city names
The lawyer thing made me think of a few years back when I lived in a kind of dodgy area. There was this really rundown looking office building on a corner and you could see inside it was a nice professional looking office... so this building, in this area made it look so sketchy on its own; but the cherry on top that made the place look like an outright front or scam was the sign on the front of the building was just a piece of plywood someone wrote "LAWYER OFFICE" on in a thick marker... it even kind of did that sloping down thing that happens when you try to write really big without some kind of line.
I always wanted to get a marker and write "I don't believe you" on the sign under "Lawyer Office." I think reality what it was was just an lawyers office that doesn't directly serve the public at all from the office and they just needed cheap office space in a commercially zoned building. And the sign was just for mail and package delivery to find the building which otherwise was just a brown brick that used to be part of row housing in the early 1900's now turned into office and shop space.
Great Video
... it took me so long to realize that you were saying Y'keema because you were talking about Yakima (Yak-i-mah), WA
You’d be surprised how many people go to John and Jane Doe funerals. There are even groups that do this in the US.
Good video 👍
Huh. I live in Washington, and haven't heard of this story. Interesting!
PS- As much as I love your pronunciation of Yakima, it's pronounced yak (like the animal) ih (like the I in whim, inn, or grim) ma (like the familial term for a mother), yak-ih-ma. I know this likely won't be influential to you, Simon, but to any readers of the comments that are curious, I hope I've provided a tidbit of useful information.
PPS- Thanks, Katie, for writing up another wonderful episode! Love your work, as usual!
Great story, sad to hear about his demise...
Simon days are the best days.
Yeah!! Nothing better then walking in from work and seeing that little dot telling me fact boy has a new vid... After this jumping over to casual criminalist... Simon has THE BEST vids out there! And love the rants😏✌
Imagine a lawyer who routinely reviews contracts, which leads to a complicated pursuit by Mafia soldiers.
It could be a drama *or* a comedy.
or both
Grew up in the late 70s/80s in StL and TWA used to offer $10 ($5 for kids) airplane rides around town. Maybe 35-40 minutes. Zero security.
In the late 90s you could still 'park' less than 100 feet from the runways and 'watch' planes takeoff and land.
Times they have a changed
What are the soundtracks playing in background in your videos? Where to get them?
Yay. Work can be not boring now. Thanks Simon.
13:56, I used to work on car locks a lot ... three separate times I have had to replace car ignition, because thrives saw keys inside, broke the window, and broke a padlock key or house key off in the lock, thinking it was the correct key. counting the window replacement? it's very expensive, but not enough for most people's insurance deductible.
No, Simon. Those strangers at the funeral were people that cared. They didn't need a name for the person, they didn't need to see the person's face, they just cared about somebody dying.
My grandfather's taught me to go to funerals so I would often go to strangers funerals. People deserve to be treated with respect, even in death.
"The 90's remember" is brilliantly placed. And could be the answer for a lot of things in this video. What's also funny is that scene was written in 1989.
Re-Rewind, Artful Dodger. Goes like this: Re-Rewind, when the crowd say, "Bo selecta"
The enjoying going to funerals reminds me of my favorite joke from the The Young Ones. Only background needed: They're dressed as undertakers.
Random Woman: Do you dig graves?
Neal: Yeah, they're alright.
Buying multiple tickets and having big wads of cash could still line up with the confusion and eratic behavior of a fugue state. You have an all-consuming need to escape, to get somewhere else, but could easily not be mentally organized enough to fully plot out _and_ actually travel the route, and so end up with an unused ticket or two. Ditto with lots of cash, not hard to still know you need money.
I definitely lean towards fugue state since he was wandering down a pitch-black highway at night and had so much going on in his life.
I'm of Scandinavian decent and we always serve food after the service and there's always someone at one table who says, "please, pass the pickles and by the way who died?" LOL
This was not a random unknown guy but he did not have any known family in the area. The local radio host heard about how this veteran had no one going to his funeral. He let the public know and tons of people went.
In Belgium and the Netherlands some cities have a poet who write a poem for the deceased and read it at the funeral. It’s a project called The Lonely Funeral (De Eenzame Uitvaart)
The song Simon was thinking about was Rewind by Craig David.
that is a hilarious way to pronounce Yakima ... and it kind of made my night.
Cool. Ty
Funerals. Yes, there are paupers funerals (mostly cremations) in the UK mostly for people with no traceable relatives, but also for people who cannot afford a funeral, paid for by local councils. They are witnessed by the funeral director and attendant staff in the former case and relatives in the latter.
Oh my gosh Simon!
In 1993, you were 6 years old. In 1993 I was two years out from Desert Storm and was the last year of my 8 year contract with the US Marine Corps!
Why are you so young!?
Tangents aside Simon is one of the great narrators of this time in my opinion
Love a good mystery 💝