My friend watches X-Men: FIRST CLASS for the FIRST time

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  • My Patrons voted for the next series we watch to be finishing X-Men, so today, I'm showing my friend Matt X-Men: First Class for the very first time.
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  • @HoldenHardman
    @HoldenHardman  3 года назад +87

    Someone let me know that the Captain America shield giveaway is in violation of Patreons terms of service, so I'm sorry that we won't be able to do that anymore. I'm still wanting to give it to a fan, so I'll come up with another way. Thanks guys!
    Make sure to check out Matt's behind the scenes here:
    ruclips.net/video/Tb_8UiRyjJs/видео.html

    • @giannihernandez8631
      @giannihernandez8631 3 года назад +1

      Please do Kick Ass

    • @cadbane7221
      @cadbane7221 3 года назад

      Will do!

    • @EvanFowler
      @EvanFowler 3 года назад

      Dude, can you not do your videos in 60fps? Those of us with Chromebooks can't watch without constant stuttering unless we set to any resolution that doesn't have 60fps, so 480p is the only option. It's bizarre, but it is what it is.

    • @akrfilms511
      @akrfilms511 3 года назад +1

      Yes please Holden do both Kickass movies 🙏🙏🙏

    • @searchanddestroy1417
      @searchanddestroy1417 3 года назад

      Do Logan next dude.

  • @messajarjarbinks6853
    @messajarjarbinks6853 3 года назад +549

    "They're just following orders"
    "Ive been at the mercy of men following orders... never again."
    Gold

    • @NamikazeNC
      @NamikazeNC 3 года назад +10

      wrong thing for Professor X to say... very poor choice of words lol

  • @MeerkatChris
    @MeerkatChris 3 года назад +331

    Agree with a lot of the issues brought up here, but I'm with Jeremy here. This is a great character film with James McAvoy and, in particular, Michael Fassbender (who genuinely brings one of the most spine-chilling performances I've seen). I would go as far as to also say this is my favourite, alongside Logan!

    • @hanburgundy4317
      @hanburgundy4317 3 года назад

      First Class isn't my favorite - doesn't come close to Apocalypse, Days of Future Past, or X3 - but it's pretty good. I give it a solid 7; _maybe_ a 6.5, if I were to nitpick, but I think it deserves a 7.
      As an X-Men movie, the "team" isn't the greatest - they _are_ just the first class, after all - but the full roster of heroes AND villains in the film is pretty stacked, if not quite as compelling as other installments. To be fair, they can't all be Wolverine, Storm, and Cyclops.
      The movie as a whole, however, is solid: great character interactions, gripping story for Magneto, compelling villains, and a fat load of fan service.

    • @steventarsitano3209
      @steventarsitano3209 3 года назад +1

      i want to believe that days of future past was better than first class. IMHO. but i still enjoyed First Class as well, and it seconded days of future past for me until Logan came along.

    • @jerrymathewninan6739
      @jerrymathewninan6739 3 года назад +2

      Imo Fassbender is a better Magneto than McKellen.

  • @ericdickey6523
    @ericdickey6523 3 года назад +561

    I had no idea people didn't like First Class--I thought it was a pretty universally praised film

    • @pyloros6906
      @pyloros6906 3 года назад +71

      Nah, that's just an internet thing. Just like how "everyone" hates Age of Ultron

    • @TheRicaRdoG1
      @TheRicaRdoG1 3 года назад +25

      Actually it is "universally" praised!

    • @gabriel812
      @gabriel812 3 года назад +3

      Right?

    • @cadehartman2872
      @cadehartman2872 3 года назад +47

      Yeah, I think they were equating their personal opinions with some sort of widespread opinion. The only consensus I have ever seen for this movie is that it rocks

    • @MrBobcat1237
      @MrBobcat1237 3 года назад +8

      I thought I really loved this movie, but after watching more of it, I think I just really absolutely love all the stuff between Charles, Erik, and Raven. Everything else is incredibly weak in comparison, but that one aspect boosts my opinion so much

  • @mclovin457
    @mclovin457 3 года назад +211

    Pastors face in the backround when Matt thinks this takes place after the original triliogy

    • @carlmccartney1025
      @carlmccartney1025 3 года назад +10

      Be careful he might put you in TIMEOUT in chat

  • @SirCalebEvans
    @SirCalebEvans 3 года назад +346

    Jeremy is the only sane one of the group this time around.

    • @PopCultureNihilist
      @PopCultureNihilist 3 года назад +56

      This time around?
      Every time around.

    • @shosh5806
      @shosh5806 3 года назад +34

      facts movie isnt as bad as everyone said

    • @crazyape515
      @crazyape515 3 года назад +3

      Nah the love triangle thing was dumb af

    • @Dagenspear
      @Dagenspear 3 года назад +1

      Who says?

    • @hrs2044
      @hrs2044 3 года назад +20

      It's not a "love" triang!e. Mystique is like a sister to Xavier. It's about loyalty between the three.

  • @EH-sx6do
    @EH-sx6do 3 года назад +423

    “Kids coming up with spy names” Um that’s the point. They were trying to give a somewhat believable reason for the original reason they all started going by ridiculous names.

    • @8LiterallyJustTheNumber8
      @8LiterallyJustTheNumber8 3 года назад +72

      Seriously! It works in comics because, first of all you're looking at illustrations, not actors, and secondly because in comics *Everyone* has a silly name. In a movie, I honestly can't think of a better way to introduce these character names than what they did! It seems silly, sure, but realistic and organic. It seemed very in character for all involved.

    • @ikoandreas5085
      @ikoandreas5085 3 года назад +45

      ‘’Who are you? Wheels?, this is the stupidest shit i’ve ever seen’’
      X1 did a great job at poking fun at how goofy the names are

    • @8LiterallyJustTheNumber8
      @8LiterallyJustTheNumber8 3 года назад +7

      @@ikoandreas5085 Sure, but that was in a universe where we were expected to blindly accept that the characters already had the dumb names. It's easy to make fun of something when you don't have to explain how it got that way first.

    • @ikoandreas5085
      @ikoandreas5085 3 года назад +4

      Cosmic 8's Starlight Caf8 explaining how the names got there arent imprtant.
      -what is your name? - (Magneto)
      -John... - (Pyro)
      -what is your REAL name? - (Magneto)
      -...Pyro - (Pyro)
      The characters treat the goofy names as their real names. And that their original names are the ones of the past, that they were just a coverup for who they ‘’really’’ are.

    • @big2033
      @big2033 3 года назад +4

      Nah the comics were fine. The movie was always cheesy and overrated in my opinion. Mystique should not be a marquee character caught in a love triangle for one ...

  • @mclovin457
    @mclovin457 3 года назад +296

    The Coin scene is amazing.

    • @lifewithalk8681
      @lifewithalk8681 3 года назад +3

      Which one

    • @zomish13
      @zomish13 3 года назад +11

      I love the final one, watching it go through Shaw's head and knowing that it was basically going through Charles' head.

    • @jturner1758
      @jturner1758 3 года назад +3

      Uncanny

    • @mclovin457
      @mclovin457 3 года назад +1

      Zoe Michele Yep. Excactly

  • @phohead
    @phohead 3 года назад +28

    I'm an old school comic book collector, started in the early 80's. This is by far one of the best X-Men movies. It is the only reason Bryan Singer finally directed a good X-Man movie, because he followed up on Matthew Vaughn's take on the X-Men. Great movie!!! Jeremy is right.... He might be the smartest guy in the room.

    • @MAMoreno
      @MAMoreno 3 года назад +2

      I don't agree that Days of Future Past was Singer's first good X-Men movie. X2 is amazing and possibly still the best of the team movies (with Days of Future Past right behind it). I will say that First Class was the second good X-Men movie, despite a handful of flaws. Singer's first X-Men film was a complete disappointment (though admittedly not as bad as his later work on Apocalypse), The Last Stand was a mess, and X-Men Origins: Wolverine is MST3K material.

    • @hrs2044
      @hrs2044 3 года назад +5

      Jeremy is the only one that gets it. They keep trying to compare it to the original trilogy when this is the origin story, with different actors. On its own, it holds up really well in trying to explain how Xmen came to be in the first place.

  • @zekemyers4444
    @zekemyers4444 3 года назад +90

    Say what you want about the X-Men movies but first class and days of future past are wonderful

    • @leecameron9226
      @leecameron9226 3 года назад +1

      First class is so boring lol it can't be wonderful if it's got nothing on the top tier superhero movies

    • @KiltBill2
      @KiltBill2 3 года назад

      After X2, the rest of Xmen movies sucked until Logan. What a waste.

    • @XxXDestroyer
      @XxXDestroyer 3 года назад +1

      Agreed, I mean I definitely agree with some of the flaws and average side characters. But overall it was good, and don't let this video fool you. Because First Class has been a fan favorite since release and to this day is one of the most praised X-Men movie. So the vast majority definitely agree with you. I mean it's obvious from all the disagreeing comments alone!

  • @SimarGraphicDesign
    @SimarGraphicDesign 3 года назад +137

    I’m still trying to understand how you can like venom more than this. At least magneto nazi hunter makes it worth a six out of ten. To each their own.

    • @biguy617
      @biguy617 3 года назад +33

      Braden Venom was terrible. I hated that movie. The effects look terrible. The dialogue is written badly. Upgrade does same concepts that Venom did but better.

    • @AceZachrocks123
      @AceZachrocks123 3 года назад +3

      @@biguy617 exactly

    • @Foxtrot5
      @Foxtrot5 3 года назад +2

      I bet they'll all like Origins Wolverine more than this.

    • @hanburgundy4317
      @hanburgundy4317 3 года назад +5

      @@Foxtrot5 Origins: Wolverine gets a bad rap - it's a fun movie, solid 6/10. Definitely not the best in the series, but far from the worst. Looking at you, Dark Phoenix.

    • @swissbeats2k
      @swissbeats2k 3 года назад +5

      Holden just needs to stick those crappy MCU movies and leave the 20th century fox marvel movies to the adults.

  • @agreporia5800
    @agreporia5800 3 года назад +278

    Can't wait until they get to "Logan". I think Matt wil really like it.

    • @cinemaclips6074
      @cinemaclips6074 3 года назад +19

      Really excited for them to see Logan, in my opinion it’s the most heartbreaking comicbook movie ever.

    • @icey8393
      @icey8393 3 года назад +3

      Bro can not wait

    • @jaysunleblanc3680
      @jaysunleblanc3680 3 года назад +2

      @@cinemaclips6074 for sure, it was probably the saddest and most serious comic movie I've seen.

    • @zewgle5734
      @zewgle5734 3 года назад +1

      Agreed Logan will be Lit

    • @aakash6509
      @aakash6509 3 года назад +2

      What about Deadpool

  • @rashadwalker8218
    @rashadwalker8218 3 года назад +66

    Jenna seems more difficult to impress than Matt watching these movies

    • @Dagenspear
      @Dagenspear 3 года назад +2

      Does she?

    • @rashadwalker8218
      @rashadwalker8218 3 года назад +16

      @@Dagenspear yes recently

    • @NinjarioPicmin
      @NinjarioPicmin 3 года назад +2

      @@Dagenspear well if most she cares about is "ooh the main actor is hot, this is an amazing movie" ...

  • @nicholasjarrett4480
    @nicholasjarrett4480 3 года назад +101

    First Class is my favorite X-Men movie. This makes me sad. 😞

    • @biguy617
      @biguy617 3 года назад +14

      Nicholas Jarrett I like this movie but Days of Future past is better.

    • @judethedude5243
      @judethedude5243 3 года назад +2

      It's a tie between first class and days of future past for me

  • @andrewguerrero2194
    @andrewguerrero2194 3 года назад +18

    Michael Fassbender is the best thing about all these movies

  • @iomis2001
    @iomis2001 3 года назад +123

    This is my favorite X-Men movie. It was less Wolverine and more everyone else.

    • @MemeMan99
      @MemeMan99 3 года назад +6

      Iomis Exaclty

    • @TheViper4Life
      @TheViper4Life 3 года назад +15

      True. But these prequel movies end up just swapping Wolverine for Mystique. This was always my big issue with the Fox X-Men films...they wanted an ensemble cast, but still managed to put focus on a single character for these films just because they were the big name actor at the time. This is why I can't wait to see what Marvel does with them...if anyone can put focus on a whole team, and make everyone on the team feel important the whole film...it's them.

    • @Saigonas
      @Saigonas 3 года назад

      @@TheViper4Life yeah

    • @eshai27
      @eshai27 3 года назад

      DOFP?

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers 3 года назад

      @@TheViper4Life What disappointed me the most about Dark Phoenix is how little of what the characters we saw in Apocalypes carried over. Storm, Cyclops, and Quiksilver were barely important, and Jubilee is not even there after they teased us in Apocalypse

  • @amenra13
    @amenra13 3 года назад +69

    Best Quote from the movie:
    “ I believe that true focus lies somewhere between rage and serenity”
    Holden, the reason why their friendship was so tight is because Xavier was able to reclaim a beautiful memory of his mother that was obscured by Eric’s rage. It was the key to harnessing his power as Magneto and freeing him from torment.
    I think some of you guys were overly critical. No organization or team immediately starts off polished and professional, so the costumes, harnessing the powers, and their mutant names were exactly the way it was supposed to be. They were young adults who were finally being appreciated for their gifts for the very first time in their lives. At the same time they were caught up in an international plot to destroy the world; a world which they saved. You’re Welcome! ;)
    Biggest Disappointments: The senseless death of Darwin. Yet another black character sacrificed early in the narrative to galvanize the white guys into taking down the baddie á la “Mendozzzaaa!”- McBain from the Simpsons.
    The other worst part of the story was the flat character of Emma Frost. Overall, this is probably the third or fourth best X-men movie.

    • @existential_sad_boi
      @existential_sad_boi 3 года назад

      Emma Frost in FC: Typical cold badass bad girl that takes no shit and it super attractive to boot!

  • @noahs1560
    @noahs1560 3 года назад +122

    Man this video hurt my soul I believe (besides Logan) this is by far the best X-men movie but it is what it is 🤷‍♂️

    • @abbasb2918
      @abbasb2918 3 года назад +12

      Days of future past?

    • @shushant8042
      @shushant8042 3 года назад +11

      Days of Future Past is far superior

    • @92dunbar
      @92dunbar 3 года назад +2

      Like the comments below, always found Days of Future Past miles better than this.

    • @jaysunleblanc3680
      @jaysunleblanc3680 3 года назад +2

      I like dfop and Logan a lot better, but opinions will be opinions.

    • @abbasb2918
      @abbasb2918 3 года назад

      Jaysun Leblanc Yh Logan is the best but I don’t really count it as an xmen movie due to how different it is

  • @yisus4681
    @yisus4681 3 года назад +48

    i'm with jeremy this time, I like this movie and it gets unnecessary hate in my opinion, days of the future past is still my favorite tho.
    can't wait for the next films, specially Logan

  • @Maleotin
    @Maleotin 3 года назад +59

    Yes Jeremy!
    Magneto is the best Part of the New Movies Michael Fassbender is such a great actor
    (Quicksilver is also great)

    • @Foxtrot5
      @Foxtrot5 3 года назад +1

      I love how he goes from saying it's his favorite X-Men movie to heavily critiquing it and giving it a 6.5 after the others tear into it.

    • @valiantham6072
      @valiantham6072 3 года назад +1

      @@Foxtrot5 he probably was scared to say other wise since as you said everyone else ripped it to shreds

    • @Foxtrot5
      @Foxtrot5 3 года назад +1

      @@valiantham6072 exactly.

  • @evgenkhersonets880
    @evgenkhersonets880 3 года назад +58

    This movie is from a guy, who directed Kingsman and Kick-ass. You can show there films to Matt and Jemma. Perhaps, they'll like them.

    • @raghavnath6068
      @raghavnath6068 3 года назад +6

      Matthew Vaughn is my favourite director in terms of action scenes.

    • @sgt.yarpyarp144
      @sgt.yarpyarp144 3 года назад +1

      I think he mentioned potentially watching kickass in his latest livestream :)

    • @leecameron9226
      @leecameron9226 3 года назад

      Kickass is much better than this movie its so cheesy and goofy

  • @MemeMan99
    @MemeMan99 3 года назад +40

    Either this or Logan is my favorite X-men movie. This was the first X-men movie I saw so it has a little nostalgia, but I still really love this movie. It gives other lesser-known characters a chance to shine and have their own moments and movie.

  • @YetiCoolBrother
    @YetiCoolBrother 3 года назад +77

    My biggest gripe with this movie is how they did my boy Darwin, no way he should’ve died from that. He has IMO one of the most interesting powers of all the X-Men.
    Edit: X-2: X-Men United is the best foX-Men movie besides Logan.

    • @Trayton
      @Trayton 3 года назад +8

      Darwin would NOT have died if he was anything like his comic counterpart. He's literally unkillable. He faced off against the Hulk and manifested teleportation to GTFO 😂. In the comics he has no control over how he manifests to meet situations, and I believe he even went up against Hela and just BECAME a death god to match her lol.
      The First Class trilogy nerfs tf out of alot of the side characters and I'll always be miffed about that. Not a spoiler, but in DoFP, I hate the representation of my boy Bishop 😡😡😡

    • @junit318
      @junit318 3 года назад +2

      Every single X-men film nerfs tf out of the characters in terms of how they’re written and their powers

    • @junit318
      @junit318 3 года назад

      Daniel Cielak (Student) Wolverine was nerfed

    • @junit318
      @junit318 3 года назад

      Daniel Cielak (Student) Wolverine in the first 3 films, Dofp, and in the Wolverine, and Origins was never shown to be that Bezerk animal like he is in the comics. In Logan they took off the restrictions for the character, but due to the plot he was still nerfed.

    • @aqvist4696
      @aqvist4696 3 года назад +1

      Darwin would have survived if he wasn't played by the only black actor in the movie 😌

  • @Tomhyde098
    @Tomhyde098 3 года назад +5

    Wow, this is definitely my favorite XMen film. I even bought the album because the soundtrack is fantastic.

  • @theshakter
    @theshakter 3 года назад +31

    Is nobody going to discuss how dark this one is from the beginning.

  • @Trayton
    @Trayton 3 года назад +22

    Idk why but I tear up every time Banshee gets pushed off the sattelite dish and finally finds his true power... IT'S SO GODDAMN UPLIFTING!

  • @SirGretz
    @SirGretz 3 года назад +136

    What movie did y’all actually watch? This is one of the best X-men movies ever. Top 3 even!

    • @pigeonboy7102
      @pigeonboy7102 3 года назад +5

      sorry but its bottom 3

    • @BlairPeron
      @BlairPeron 3 года назад +2

      Yeah bottom 3 for sure 👍

    • @alenadzic23
      @alenadzic23 3 года назад +25

      you are right
      1. Logan
      2. Days of future past
      3. first class

    • @hrs2044
      @hrs2044 3 года назад

      Lol you got it right

    • @imagzz4942
      @imagzz4942 3 года назад +1

      True. I feel like their opinions are always really weird, but oh well.

  • @J_Tevo
    @J_Tevo 3 года назад +116

    I think this is by far the best X-men film. Just watching the ‘One X-cellent Scene’ videos done by a butch of RUclipsrs highlights how wonderful this movie is.
    Very disappointed by this one.

    • @messajarjarbinks6853
      @messajarjarbinks6853 3 года назад +23

      Not counting Logan, i agree. Too many excellent scenes, characters, actors to be called a bad movie.

    • @PhillyBlerd215
      @PhillyBlerd215 3 года назад +3

      How they handled Darwin was enough to knock this movie down a few pegs....just sayin

    • @divadivad9164
      @divadivad9164 3 года назад

      Agreed.

    • @chancestafford8863
      @chancestafford8863 3 года назад +4

      @@PhillyBlerd215 as someone who doesn't care too much for the xmen comics, it never really bothered me.
      Although i do think if they would've switched it to a coulson type of character that died it would've worked better

    • @junit318
      @junit318 3 года назад +2

      Sean Harding U can’t complain about how Darwin was done when every film has done more important X-men way worse. Ex: Cyclops, Storm, Emma Frost, Gambit, Rogue, Colossus, Psylocke, Mystique, and a lot more.

  • @OmniviumVelocity
    @OmniviumVelocity 3 года назад +6

    Fun fact: First Class is rated 7.7 on IMDB, which is higher than all 3 of the original xmen movies

  • @messajarjarbinks6853
    @messajarjarbinks6853 3 года назад +164

    I kinda find it funny how one of the biggest Raimi fanboys on RUclips says that First Class is too corny because the suits are yellow and banshee is weird (not saying I dislike Raimi just saying that those movies are INCREDIBLY corny much more so than this movie) also the 'names thing' where theyre 'spy names made by kids' is pretty damn intentional. imo its the only way to have the names of the characters in the movie without it sounding completely ridiculous. you guys are entitled to your opinion tho sohave a good day :)

    • @chancestafford8863
      @chancestafford8863 3 года назад +15

      Its nostalgia.

    • @Cloudy_Games_99
      @Cloudy_Games_99 3 года назад +1

      Chance Stafford exactly

    • @Csaba__
      @Csaba__ 3 года назад +1

      THIS! thank you

    • @8LiterallyJustTheNumber8
      @8LiterallyJustTheNumber8 3 года назад +17

      @CJ P. I disagree, I don't really find much of anything in this movie that is corny but not trying to be.

    • @TheRocknRollfreak
      @TheRocknRollfreak 3 года назад +3

      CJ P. I agree with your first sentence, but Vaughn isn’t that tone deaf of a filmmaker. It was inspired by some of those campy 60s movies and tv shows.

  • @SandShark350
    @SandShark350 3 года назад +3

    I think Fassbender's portrayal of Magneto and the theme music alone get this movie a 6 starting point.

  • @jose13brohacker69
    @jose13brohacker69 3 года назад +3

    2:55 Pastors face was my exact face when Matt said that Jean was gonna come back. It’s called FIRST CLASS!!

  • @deficitmusic9959
    @deficitmusic9959 3 года назад +5

    This is THE best XMEN movie without a fucking doubt.

  • @ki700
    @ki700 3 года назад +17

    I'm genuinely hurt by how much y'all disliked this movie. I'm with Jeremy, this is easily the best X-Men movie.

  • @TheSteff1998
    @TheSteff1998 3 года назад +21

    Subjectivity is a crazy thing. I can't understand how you guys loved so much movies like C.A: Civil War and Home Coming and not this movie

    • @pyloros6906
      @pyloros6906 3 года назад +6

      Civil War is leagues beyond this movie

    • @strachanspodcast5951
      @strachanspodcast5951 3 года назад +4

      Yeah it definitely is. Weird how u would single out two of the MCU's better movies as bad examples 😛

    • @Dagenspear
      @Dagenspear 3 года назад +3

      @@pyloros6906 I think it's stronger constructed.

  • @fredserna9022
    @fredserna9022 3 года назад +4

    This is my favorite X-Men movie because stylistically it looks and feels different plus i love the 60s setting.
    The score has a groovy flare and throughout it does feel like a spy thriller, then at other times it gets emotional. solid 9/10 for me

  • @tysonvorwaller
    @tysonvorwaller 3 года назад +3

    The climax of this film and the next one are gold to me because it doesn't come down who's more powerful but it came down to character choice.

  • @thebc5754
    @thebc5754 3 года назад +14

    Wow, I really enjoyed this one despite the side characters being underdeveloped. But I thought everything with the main cast was done so well and Vaughn was an excellent director. I wish he had control over the entire prequel series. I'd give it a strong 8. But it's fine if you guys didn't love it.

  • @SWTobito0702
    @SWTobito0702 3 года назад +7

    I'm totally with Jeremy on this one. If we don't take Logan into account, which you kinda have to tbh, this one is the best X-Men movie.
    The fact that the movie managed the whole spy movie aspect while also handling the campiness of X-Men is amazing.
    I think the only thing I dislike about this movie is the whole "adapt to this" scene. He could! That's his entire power! No matter what he encounters, he will adapt to it. But the mutant recruitement scene easily makes up for it.
    Honestly, Idk what's up with the rest of them, especially Jenna and Matt.
    I'd probably give this movie like an 8 or 8.5/10.

  • @ninjaraph7
    @ninjaraph7 3 года назад +4

    Jeremy is right. Magneto's story arc is the soul reason why this movie is among the best x-men.

  • @WuMyth
    @WuMyth 3 года назад +48

    Damn all that development watching the MCU, Matt and Jenna just threw it all out lol...

    • @coba8082
      @coba8082 3 года назад +2

      The difference is the MCU proper is reliably good while the Fox-men films generally haven’t aged well and never had the confidence or intelligence to lean into the source material. It also doesn’t help that Hugh Jackman, Ryan Reynolds, Fassbender, and McAvoy carry these movies far more than they should have to.

    • @CallmeJochem
      @CallmeJochem 3 года назад +6

      Even during that series they had some absolutely weird opinions, such as Thor:The Dark World being better than Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

  • @tyrannapusandfriends6254
    @tyrannapusandfriends6254 3 года назад +9

    If Matt was complaining about a meta aspect, just wait until he sees deadpool

    • @texascard
      @texascard 3 года назад +2

      He's already seen it

  • @ikoandreas5085
    @ikoandreas5085 3 года назад +2

    He legit was on his phone during the rage and serinity scene

  • @CrashRaph01
    @CrashRaph01 3 года назад +2

    Dude I actually said "Yea!" Out loud when I saw this pop up. This is one he Needs to watch. The Charles and Eric story (and acting) is one of the best things in comic movies ever.

  • @allknee852
    @allknee852 3 года назад +3

    The villain treatments is this movie are fantastic.

  • @LILGHETTI
    @LILGHETTI 3 года назад +3

    Show me the real holden Hardman
    I said the real Holden Hardman
    PERFECTION 😂🔥

  • @DarkTalesProduction
    @DarkTalesProduction 3 года назад +155

    Y'all skipped X-Men Origins: Wolverine

    • @trampotrav4350
      @trampotrav4350 3 года назад +58

      You complaining?

    • @stephenthedude4383
      @stephenthedude4383 3 года назад +26

      Skipped it for good reason

    • @SlurpMySauce38
      @SlurpMySauce38 3 года назад +2

      Nooo thats my favourite movie!!! /s

    • @DarkTalesProduction
      @DarkTalesProduction 3 года назад +21

      @@trampotrav4350 Doesn't bother me that much, but if they are going to watch the whole X-Men series. Including The Wolverine Trilogy, might as well watch it

    • @bloocheeseformaboi881
      @bloocheeseformaboi881 3 года назад +13

      If Matt's going to hate most of these, I don't see why we can't have fun watching.

  • @FantasticFilms
    @FantasticFilms 3 года назад +15

    I’m really surprised everyone was so negative on this. Personally First Class has always been one of my favorites. Great video though and solid points for sure.

  • @476429
    @476429 3 года назад +6

    I normally disagree with Jeremy but he's right about this one. The style is awesome.
    Matthew Vaughn (director) also directed _Layer Cake_ , _Kick-Ass_ , and _Kingsman: The Secret Service_ . He said he made _X-Men: First Class_ as an early James Bond movie, like _Dr. No_ , _From Russia With Love_ , _Goldfinger_ , etc.
    Eric (Magneto) takes the place of James Bond in this movie. His clothes are based on the clothes Sean Connery wore in the early to mid-60s Bond movies. Some of the sets are based heavily on sets from the early Bond movies. And some of the campiness matches the campiness of the early Bond movies.
    So this movie is Matthew Vaughn's love letter to James Bond movies of the 1960's. I love the look, casting, and story. It is my favorite X-Men movie.

  • @dab1214
    @dab1214 3 года назад +3

    Wow. I'm surprised most of you didn't like this movie. It's one of my favorites.The WW2 and Magneto stuff was so great. I can see how it doesn't work for some people, but maybe I'm biased because it's one of the only X-Men movies I owned on itunes for years. I still really enjoy it though.

  • @EricDurham04
    @EricDurham04 3 года назад +91

    The killing of Darwin is still to this day the biggest sin of these movies for me

    • @corbanblake8359
      @corbanblake8359 3 года назад +12

      "Adapt to this".......... Why the fuck couldn't he? It's like they were trying to perpetuate the whole black guy dies first.

    • @Grasfh
      @Grasfh 3 года назад +5

      @@corbanblake8359 dude it actually made no sense ahaha its like wolverine not healing or something

    • @Jegfil
      @Jegfil 3 года назад +1

      I get what you guys mean (especially for comic book fans), but I think he just reached his limit (in this movie version ofc).

    • @ItzMeWill
      @ItzMeWill 3 года назад +3

      @Markus Reit wait? No one said anything about that. Darwin's mutant ability is too adapt and survive anything. That little ball of energy was not suppose to do much to him. That's what everyone's complaining about

    • @ItzMeWill
      @ItzMeWill 3 года назад

      @Markus Reit . you didn't have his name in your response so I didn't know....also, Sebastian Shaw didn't really care about the Nazis. He was only using them for his own gain.

  • @FrancisXLord
    @FrancisXLord 3 года назад +4

    It wasn't World War II Holden, it was 1962 - the Cuban Missile Crisis.

  • @Superdm64
    @Superdm64 3 года назад +7

    I've been saying for years that Michael Fassbender should play James Bond, and this movie is the reason why.

  • @Saimeren
    @Saimeren 3 года назад +30

    My biggest question about this movie is; Why couldn't Darwin "adapt to this"?
    His whole thing is that his body will automatically adapt to any situation put before him. Whether it's becoming as strong as colossus to match his strength, creating intense mental barriers to deal with telepaths or teleporting away from the Hulk. (Because the best course of action for fighting the Hulk is to not fight the Hulk.)
    So why couldn't Darwin adapt to Shaw's fireball? Why couldn't Darwin's body turn his insides into adamantium for a minute to deal with the blast?
    Darwin is easily the most powerful Mutant in this movie, and they killed him off in a way that doesn't make sense for his character or powers.

    • @eltoncdb
      @eltoncdb 3 года назад +3

      Because they can't write an OP character thats not a protagonist. Any OP side character will be either send them off-screen or kill him outright, aka Quick Silver and Darwin

    • @Saimeren
      @Saimeren 3 года назад +8

      @@eltoncdb Right. So why have him there in the first place?

    • @eltoncdb
      @eltoncdb 3 года назад

      @@Saimeren It's like they roll dice to have what character should be on the movie. Typical for Fox Xmenverse.

    • @Gameflyer001
      @Gameflyer001 3 года назад +2

      It seemed like too much power for even Darwin to handle, akin to a supernova which a nearly invulnerable character couldn't possibly survive.

    • @xiz0808
      @xiz0808 3 года назад +2

      Totally agree, the Darwin death scene killed this movie for me, i know Darwin from the comics, in particular WW hulk. To me it was a big flaw and after seeing it i started to notice the complete lack of interest in actually adapting the characters from the comics properly. I mean if your not Professor X or Magneto in these films then they don't care, they just roll a dice and are like we'll use this mutant. It says alot when there have been a million X-men films but the only one to actually bring a character from the comics and put them on screen EXACTLY how they should be is Deadpool

  • @siddharthkhirwar7192
    @siddharthkhirwar7192 3 года назад +4

    X-Men: First Class wasn't one of my favorite X-Men movies UNTIL I watched Full Fat Videos' video on the film and its analysis. This film is easily one of the most tightly-scripted and focused CBM films of the last decade and is a great character study. Matthew Vaughn was extremely passionate about this film and Days Of Future Past and its sad he was replaced by Bryan Singer because, not only is a better and more amicable person, but I am sure he could have done a better job with the future of he X-Men movies.
    PS: I really like Holden and his analyses on these films but it does seem he was massively biased against this film and most of his issues were nitpicks.

  • @KnowYourMarvelNews
    @KnowYourMarvelNews 3 года назад +1

    I almost love the growing friendship with Matt and Jeremy as much as the videos, it’s so wholesome

  • @b0de
    @b0de 3 года назад +51

    This movie is okay. X2, days of future past, Logan are all better. Dofp might be a bit much for Matt being that this was hard to follow for him.

    • @jaysunleblanc3680
      @jaysunleblanc3680 3 года назад +4

      If he could follow endgame I don't think it would be too hard for him, considering both films focus on time travel.

    • @messajarjarbinks6853
      @messajarjarbinks6853 3 года назад +2

      x men 2 is NOT better than this movie. Like I like x men 2 but it has aged so poorly imo

    • @olunchb0xo965
      @olunchb0xo965 3 года назад +1

      messa jar jar binks xmen 2 is 1000x better.

    • @JudgeFudge57
      @JudgeFudge57 3 года назад +2

      I think objectively DOFP has the best acting and best "by gone jim moments" of the entire franchise, and I also personnally think it has the best characters but that's my opinion (for that last bit).

    • @jaysunleblanc3680
      @jaysunleblanc3680 3 года назад

      @@joshuafoley8415 yeah when I saw endgame for the first time, I was confused for a few seconds but then I understood it. With dofp I never got confused.

  • @brayden3041
    @brayden3041 3 года назад +5

    Here is my take on the movie. The points brought up are valid, that they are campy and some parts aren’t the best but I think that it all balances out with the magneto and professor x relationship. And this is how the original 60s comics are, they are campy and stupid but they are also serious and have some strong messages. It’s an 8/10 and I stand by that

  • @joelpierce1453
    @joelpierce1453 3 года назад +6

    I agree with Pastor. The movie hangs on McAvoy and Fassbender. Their performances are fantastic, but everyone else is sort of mediocre. I understand the criticisms, but I think Professor X and Magneto really carry this movie to a strong 7 at least. Their characters are very solid.

  • @littlesparrow303
    @littlesparrow303 3 года назад +2

    I remember my history teacher saying no X-men wasn’t in the Cold War during the time the movie came out 🤣

  • @Crozut
    @Crozut 3 года назад +4

    I'd give First Class about 8/10 honestly. If someone says they don't like Quicksilver imma lose my mind.

  • @ashishtoppo70134
    @ashishtoppo70134 3 года назад +52

    you guys should watch the boys together like this whole group I'm really interested in seeing what u all think of it

    • @TrueGamer22887
      @TrueGamer22887 3 года назад

      I wish they’d watch the DC stuff first because the main hero’s in the comics and show are a riff on the dc characters and the marvel ones are more side stories

    • @MonkeyDBatman
      @MonkeyDBatman 3 года назад +1

      @@TrueGamer22887 i know they've only watched the DK trilogy, superman and joker. It would be cool if they watched the old Batman movies and wonderwoman

    • @TrueGamer22887
      @TrueGamer22887 3 года назад

      FoxRNG I think all the new dc movies are worth it if he wants to see what all the parodies in the boys represent.

    • @MonkeyDBatman
      @MonkeyDBatman 3 года назад

      @@TrueGamer22887 well they can pass most of the dceu

    • @TrueGamer22887
      @TrueGamer22887 3 года назад

      FoxRNG I think for the boys they just need the Snyder trilogy

  • @stevenfriedman2902
    @stevenfriedman2902 3 года назад +3

    When your microwave started beeping I thought it was mine

  • @archive_kev9958
    @archive_kev9958 3 года назад +2

    I love the goofiness if this movie. X-men in the comics has quite a lot of silliness, and I’m glad they weren’t afraid to show that like the previous trilogy had

  • @ceougin20
    @ceougin20 3 года назад +5

    All valid points however, we get to see them have fun with their powers. That’s a great scene in the CIA where they’re just kids goofing off with the powers they have. Charles and Erik’s story is one of the best parts too. This is definitely better than X3 but not so the first two. All around I think this was meant to be a more fun take on the characters and I can really appreciate that. Not the best but sure as hell not the worst.

  • @georgeguerra8953
    @georgeguerra8953 3 года назад +3

    I felt like this movie kind of had some romantic subtext between Charles and Erik, and that is why their relationship could last for so long despite being friends for such a short time.

  • @Andres_was_here
    @Andres_was_here 3 года назад +2

    Holden and Matt: Loves Spider-Man (2000s films)
    Also Holden and Matt: iT's ToO CoRnY

  • @JPuReTaLeNt
    @JPuReTaLeNt 3 года назад +1

    I agree with Jeremy. This was the Magneto origin story that we all needed. Fassbender and McAvoy as young Xavier and Magneto are the best part of the newer movies

  • @charliemersonwrightashby
    @charliemersonwrightashby 3 года назад +34

    TFW you realise they think X3 is better than First Class.
    “There’ll be no turning back!”
    (just kidding, each to their own ☺️)

    • @ChristopherJohnsonD9
      @ChristopherJohnsonD9 3 года назад +3

      Lmao I actually like X3 more than most but I do agree first class is way better. X3 is like a guilty pleasure to me I still enjoy it for what it is. Same with Spiderman 3.

    • @SirCalebEvans
      @SirCalebEvans 3 года назад +5

      Holden lost many points saying X3 is better than FC.

    • @clayalford8163
      @clayalford8163 3 года назад +3

      I think x3 is the worst x men movie. Even worse that origins wolverine. I love first class tho

  • @josepablolanderosbuenrrost2945
    @josepablolanderosbuenrrost2945 3 года назад +8

    Honestly for me this is the best main franchise X-men movie (maybe DoFP is a bit better overall, ngl). Yeah, it can be a bit cheesy and the vfx are not always great, but the relationship between Charles, Erick, Raven and Hank damn, that's why I'm here for. Plus Matthew Vaugn really wanted to have some X-men things like the suits, which for me is a plus.
    I wholeheartedly disagree with Holden, Matt and Jenna. The costumes are supposed to look not that great (plus they don't look low quality), the names ARE SUPPOSED to be codenames made by teenagers, it's supposed to be silly. Plus how do you want them to introduce ridiculous names like "magneto" and "beast"? I mean, I can't think of a better way than dumb children being bored and wanting codenames imo.
    To me this is a 7, but I still LOVE this movie a lot

  • @Tostilocos.
    @Tostilocos. 3 года назад +1

    2:46 Not sure why but Pastor sneaking some snacks in and his facial expressions were the highlight of the video lol

  • @kasinator1823
    @kasinator1823 3 года назад +1

    20th Century Fox was the Master of teasing really cool looking costumes at the end just to throw them away in the next movie

  • @JackBoz23
    @JackBoz23 3 года назад +3

    I know everyone’s excited for Matt to see Logan but I’m pumped to see him react to dark Phoenix 😂

  • @JudgeFudge57
    @JudgeFudge57 3 года назад +40

    Hope you'll watch the Rogue cut version of days of future past.

    • @Gesundheit2000
      @Gesundheit2000 3 года назад +12

      It's the superior cut imo. It really ties both trilogies together (yes, i said trilogy. Dark Pheonix doesn't count.)

    • @JudgeFudge57
      @JudgeFudge57 3 года назад +1

      @@Gesundheit2000 It's the only way to watch it for me.

    • @stevebragg4256
      @stevebragg4256 3 года назад +1

      Yes, Rogue cut!

    • @messajarjarbinks6853
      @messajarjarbinks6853 3 года назад +1

      @@Gesundheit2000 ive never seen it, whats the difference from that and the cinematic cut?

    • @biguy617
      @biguy617 3 года назад +1

      Will J Rogue Cut is overrated. I prefer the theatrical cut because Anna Paquin never feels like the Rogue I know from the animated series.

  • @thatplaystationgamer3262
    @thatplaystationgamer3262 3 года назад +2

    I don't understand how you can't love this movie. Its so good. Also it has the best X-Men soundtrack to date

  • @d1ngo862
    @d1ngo862 3 года назад +1

    6:06 the weather man is here got me laughing way to hard

  • @cja6510
    @cja6510 3 года назад +4

    I can't see how anyone would prefer X-Men: The Last Stand over First Class lol oh well to each their own

  • @Whitmore_17
    @Whitmore_17 3 года назад +4

    Not enough of the acting comes into the scoring for me. The performances of Michael and James pump this movie to a 7 regardless of the effects and weird lines. The casting of those two as the young versions is an absolute master stroke

  • @kepler1377
    @kepler1377 3 года назад +1

    Man y’all are such an awesome group of friends. I bet it’s a hoot when y’all are together!

  • @ianbravogaming
    @ianbravogaming 3 года назад +2

    I absolutely LOVE first class. Im pretty disappointed you guys couldn't enjoy it the way I did in theatres and still to this day. EXCEPT JEREMY.

  • @benfrappuccino6546
    @benfrappuccino6546 3 года назад +7

    Watching it, there’s definitely a lot of cringe in this movie, but I really like it for the characters and getting to see the relationship between Magneto and Xavier

  • @davedoesyt
    @davedoesyt 3 года назад +4

    There’s two movies in this film, a great story between Eric and Charles and Mystique. And I campy ass fan service about the beginning of the X-Men. Time period and setting is great, there are some stand out bits in the film, then there’s just mediocre stuff with the B list characters.

  • @ansionnachbeagrioga5260
    @ansionnachbeagrioga5260 3 года назад +1

    Anyone else notice that Magneto starts sounding a little Irish in the third act? Meanwhile, Banshee, who is actually meant to be Irish, sounds like a typical American teenager. Reminds me of how Storms African accent mysteriously vanished in X-Men 2.

  • @ThaBoogMan
    @ThaBoogMan 3 года назад +1

    Can I just say how much I love this channel. The time and effort you guys put in to making videos that not only you enjoy, But everyone else aswell! Not to mention the little subtleties in each video. E.g "My Friend Watches" (in xmen themed writing) 😂💛
    All I'm saying is... love the content! 🙃🙃

  • @Maleotin
    @Maleotin 3 года назад +17

    Finally but honestly where is TASM?😂
    You did all Sony Spidey Movies except for the Duology but no pressure man!!❤

    • @raghavnath6068
      @raghavnath6068 3 года назад

      Those are shit.

    • @Maleotin
      @Maleotin 3 года назад

      @@raghavnath6068 Your Opinion

    • @mclovin457
      @mclovin457 3 года назад +1

      @Maleeton, Let it go😂

    • @Maleotin
      @Maleotin 3 года назад

      @@mclovin457
      😂😂

    • @shadowlion0131
      @shadowlion0131 3 года назад

      2nd one wasn’t great, 1st one was fine

  • @RandomAndysChannel
    @RandomAndysChannel 3 года назад +3

    yo! We are here!

  • @KG-bt5wl
    @KG-bt5wl 3 года назад +1

    Holden became famous by asking his buddy "bro you seen star wars ?"

  • @felicitasjuarez
    @felicitasjuarez 3 года назад +2

    I just wanna say, here in Argentina that part is an absolute MEME because the fucked up the name, that place is a very well know vacation BEACH, which is hilarious

  • @matusmajda6976
    @matusmajda6976 3 года назад +8

    My personal opinion is that i grow up with x-men and since x men first class till x men dark phoenix. X-Men First Class is my favourite.. Except of Logan.

  • @brettg274
    @brettg274 3 года назад +3

    Yah, Jeremy knows. This is my favorite X-Men movie, too.

  • @jambose9126
    @jambose9126 3 года назад +2

    This is by far my favourite X-Men film

  • @josuecalderin9226
    @josuecalderin9226 3 года назад

    Holden,you’re doing an awesome job with all the videos!!! Keep up the good work 👍

  • @Bebo18
    @Bebo18 3 года назад +3

    Oh god, this is my favorite X-men movie. Lmao

    • @tyleradams3490
      @tyleradams3490 3 года назад +1

      Of the team movies, easily same here.

  • @GobboJones
    @GobboJones 3 года назад +4

    I've never been this early to a Holden Video before!

  • @ItzTheDr
    @ItzTheDr 3 года назад

    So close to 100 thousand oh my I’ve been here since like 20 thousand it’s so cool seeing how you and them have grown🥺🤧

  • @jayborussell
    @jayborussell 3 года назад +2

    Everybody shitting on First Class
    Jeremy: 👁💧👄💧👁

  • @brayden3041
    @brayden3041 3 года назад +3

    You guys need to watch Kick-ass and kingsman, they are by the same director as first class and two of my favorite movies.

  • @sethgibson5148
    @sethgibson5148 3 года назад +4

    I actually enjoyed this movie. I would personally give it a 7. Everything you guys had aginst it I couldn't care less about. The only character I didn't really care about was the flying acid spitting lady.

  • @jaikirthick8243
    @jaikirthick8243 2 года назад

    When the magneto picks submarine, it gave me chills. Don't you dare talk about the friendship

  • @PatrickStewart316
    @PatrickStewart316 3 года назад +1

    I can’t wait to watch this after work. Love Holden’s videos. And if this is Jeremy’s fav X-men, can’t wait to hear his thoughts...oh yeah. And Matt too 🤣