Mig-29 did Kvochur's Bell Maneuver gets Reality Check

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  • Опубликовано: 15 апр 2023
  • In this #warthunder #shorts, Mig-29 did Kvochur's Bell Maneuver gets Reality Check. Mig-29 is a Russian fighter jet in the game. This maneuver is very dangerous and can cause a lot of damage. Do not try this at home!
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  • @iancrowley420
    @iancrowley420 11 месяцев назад +137

    “what the fuck was that”
    “beats me rooster, fox 2”

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  11 месяцев назад +4

      Mav:Holy Sh*t

    • @duonglethai8701
      @duonglethai8701 5 месяцев назад +1

      "That would've saved us too much screentime Mav !"

  • @ggityoboijack1616
    @ggityoboijack1616 Год назад +856

    In the movie it was a su-57

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  Год назад +119

      Yes

    • @ethanklee9041
      @ethanklee9041 Год назад +148

      Yeah, but they have to have one in real life before they can accurately model it in game

    • @thelastchairlol8527
      @thelastchairlol8527 Год назад +53

      @@ethanklee9041 the leaked documents:

    • @ethanklee9041
      @ethanklee9041 Год назад

      @@thelastchairlol8527 can't leak documents about something Russia can only afford to build 7 prototypes of

    • @Gargoyle_911nn
      @Gargoyle_911nn Год назад +8

      You can do it without thrust vectoring

  • @attely5521
    @attely5521 11 месяцев назад +280

    Everyone wants to do top gun 2 cobra and dodge
    Everyone ends up doing top gun 1 flatspin and die

    • @andrewterry9577
      @andrewterry9577 10 месяцев назад +8

      I feel attacked.

    • @ballison8937
      @ballison8937 9 месяцев назад +10

      The cobra doge is called the kovasher bell, a menuver only by very manuverable planes

    • @Dixby_Floppin
      @Dixby_Floppin 9 месяцев назад +2

      Goose was certainly with him

    • @Frosty_WT
      @Frosty_WT 8 месяцев назад

      Nah I did it against a Mig-29 in sim, made a video with Farthunder about it too

    • @AviatrixEdits
      @AviatrixEdits 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@ballison8937a cobra and Kvochur's Bell are different

  • @williamanguiano9347
    @williamanguiano9347 Год назад +336

    I think that broken right wingtip had led him to a flat spin but still

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  Год назад +19

      Yep my AIM9 exploded near his wing

    • @SpeedCuber______
      @SpeedCuber______ 11 месяцев назад +2

      Девочки, о полном управлении слышали?

    • @_palodiel_7145
      @_palodiel_7145 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@SpeedCuber______ а ты видел что ему кусок крыла оторвало?

    • @SpeedCuber______
      @SpeedCuber______ 9 месяцев назад

      @@_palodiel_7145да я видел, но считать что только из-за этого он мог начать такое вращение это глупо

    • @_palodiel_7145
      @_palodiel_7145 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@SpeedCuber______ ну если он с таким крылом потянул ручку на себя вполне мог так закрутится

  • @sam_eguene
    @sam_eguene 11 месяцев назад +69

    You can't blame him, a little MiG-29 just wanted to become Su-57 when he was a kid

    • @user-rx5hc2yq1q
      @user-rx5hc2yq1q 11 месяцев назад +5

      its a mig29

    • @user-kw6wi6nh3w
      @user-kw6wi6nh3w 10 месяцев назад

      but it’s not a SU

    • @rjninja-fj5yh
      @rjninja-fj5yh 10 месяцев назад

      Mig just do a normal cobra manuenver not a stupud advance like that

    • @ghostdivisiongod9630
      @ghostdivisiongod9630 9 месяцев назад

      Mig 29 not su 29

    • @Fallen_2003
      @Fallen_2003 8 месяцев назад

      The plane doing the manoeuvre in Top Gun Maverick was a Su-57. The plane failing to replicate it is a MiG-29. That’s what he’s saying, and he’s right.

  • @stephenkentperez7705
    @stephenkentperez7705 11 месяцев назад +37

    if you dont have any idea what your doing, so does the enemy... -Sun Tzu.

  • @Kilo-sz4ch
    @Kilo-sz4ch 8 месяцев назад +7

    Basically every mig-23 I’ve fought in simulator battles has attempted this and it almost never works 😂

  • @BiasThunderz
    @BiasThunderz 9 месяцев назад +23

    doing the Kvochur's Bell just turns you into a mega sized target for bullets

    • @AviatrixEdits
      @AviatrixEdits 6 месяцев назад +1

      Depending on when you do it, it's super rare to have a situation where it is good, but I've had them before.

  • @ameyawadekar9901
    @ameyawadekar9901 7 месяцев назад +6

    He forgor the most important parts
    1) low speed
    2) shutting off the fucking afterburner

  • @v3es473
    @v3es473 8 месяцев назад +2

    That's why IRL none of the fancy ass airshow maneuvers matter

  • @cagancatalbas5517
    @cagancatalbas5517 11 месяцев назад +6

    The F-16 A/A gunsight was optimized for manuevering targets so flying straight is safer

  • @ho-ri6540
    @ho-ri6540 Год назад +26

    Mig-29 Doing Kvochu'r Bell*
    G-Tolerance & Stall:

  • @seanmarshall5463
    @seanmarshall5463 9 месяцев назад +2

    The cobra maneuver looks cool, but in reality, there are much better ways to get an enemy to overshoot with out killing your own energy.

  • @nsr-ints
    @nsr-ints 11 месяцев назад +16

    This is why bleeding your speed to slow you down is a dangerous move if your bandit manages their energy well. They'll just go for a gunshot and you'll be just sitting duck.

    • @mmneaapro596
      @mmneaapro596 9 месяцев назад +3

      In real life
      you don't control the plane with a mouse and a keyboard (unless a drone)
      instead it is a stick and paddles, and you need to account for everything to line up the shot
      unlike in-game where everything is calculated
      the moment you decide you will change the cursor to face that direction
      that is why those maneuvers are still in existence
      but that guy was a true idiot to try to do it with such a heavily damaged plane and a broken wing (P.S: he seems to have just used keyboard in that moment instead of switching first to realistic/simulator controls then do it)

    • @skull1161
      @skull1161 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@mmneaapro596still a bad maneuver, even if the pilot misses the gun shots he can still just loop up into the vertical since he has way more energy than the guy who just did a cobra

  • @macjacob4893
    @macjacob4893 Год назад +6

    The one who chased mig-29 far more genius😂😂😂😂

  •  3 месяца назад +1

    bro made him self an eazy target😂😂😂😂😂

  • @conelechague7107
    @conelechague7107 8 месяцев назад +1

    Bro said *what the fuck was that!"

  • @nvs0k100
    @nvs0k100 Год назад +4

    Bro forgot that this isn't a movie and even maverick would be bad at war thunder

  • @KanpachiGaming
    @KanpachiGaming 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for presenting a larger target profile for my guns roflmao

  • @prodRain
    @prodRain 10 месяцев назад +2

    „Reality Check“

  • @ghostpost.
    @ghostpost. 5 месяцев назад +2

    Only really works when other plane is really close by on your tail so

  • @mimiko8577
    @mimiko8577 9 месяцев назад +1

    unfortunately it ain't war thunder where machine gun and rockets got a different hot keys

  • @di5ea5eairsoft6
    @di5ea5eairsoft6 10 месяцев назад +2

    I actually did this in my FW-190 😂

  • @Ace1-
    @Ace1- 8 месяцев назад +1

    me i’m mig 29- legs so cobra they gonna use missles them: let’s use gun!

  • @maniacmuffin5920
    @maniacmuffin5920 10 месяцев назад +2

    What he can’t shoot me in my cool flippy flip imposple

  • @Military-Plane-Spotting
    @Military-Plane-Spotting 11 месяцев назад +2

    Mig 29 can do it in real life but not in war thunder

  • @michaelbreckshot6589
    @michaelbreckshot6589 10 месяцев назад +2

    I thought it wouldn't be able to do that because MiG-29s have no thrust vectoring

  • @Wraith_Of_The_Shadows
    @Wraith_Of_The_Shadows 9 месяцев назад +1

    if ur close enough it works the 109s im fighting in a bomber can confirm

  • @m4vsk
    @m4vsk 11 месяцев назад +2

    Hey look who i am, yes you're right, the 30mm going right on your cockpit

  • @lorgpanther8920
    @lorgpanther8920 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think he just tried to turn tbh

  • @reeddeaeth9872
    @reeddeaeth9872 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ive done it once, never again

  • @danielcooney5718
    @danielcooney5718 9 месяцев назад +1

    With a Kingsley Viper too

  • @the_lampost_dude1081
    @the_lampost_dude1081 9 месяцев назад +1

    Me: in b11 GTA
    Dude in vtol jet:

  • @PvpSniper656
    @PvpSniper656 10 месяцев назад +1

    He have to split engine trust

  • @MIGG3R
    @MIGG3R Год назад +2

    MiG-29 can do this, but must fly below 950 km/h...

  • @05-1scpfoundation5
    @05-1scpfoundation5 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was in a war thunder match I primarily fly my f-4s I was chasing down a Mig 23 and he successfully pulled I did fire a missile at him fortunately it went and curved up inside of hitting

  • @LlamaChameleonTTV
    @LlamaChameleonTTV 8 месяцев назад +1

    I really want to do this. 2 jets chasing each other with after burners. It would be so cool

  • @nhatlehong8803
    @nhatlehong8803 11 месяцев назад +1

    the mistake that everyone makes doing this is that theyre too far to get a guaranteed overshoot and not give the chasers time to gun

  • @dudewithabalaclava5094
    @dudewithabalaclava5094 9 месяцев назад

    I think I've seen more non soviet jets in war thunder do this lmao

  • @Migger141
    @Migger141 8 месяцев назад +1

    It’s mostly the f14s that do it

  • @CZMajkee01
    @CZMajkee01 8 месяцев назад +1

    The kvorchur bell works against missiles btw I dodged r60m with that

  • @MaliqIbrahim-1306
    @MaliqIbrahim-1306 9 месяцев назад +1

    Solution: Don't use MiG-29 in that situation, use suitable aircrafts like Su-57 or the Po-2. Ah but what's this? The Su-57's not in WarThunder!? Your best bet is the Po-2.

  • @Jossssephfffeeuuu
    @Jossssephfffeeuuu Год назад +2

    Mig 29>>> Besides, it's a Su 57 in the film, and the Mig 29 has already performed this figure several times in aerial demonstration. OK, kiss.

  • @cozyProgramm5883
    @cozyProgramm5883 9 месяцев назад

    Mig doesnt get chased
    .
    Mig chases others

  • @antaresb-vw4co
    @antaresb-vw4co 11 месяцев назад

    Bro tried to flare guns

  • @willziy5470
    @willziy5470 7 месяцев назад

    Only reason it worked in the movie because the F-16 have ammunition

  • @Astro_lixi
    @Astro_lixi 9 месяцев назад +1

    I actually do something like this with the Phantom and it works

  • @Mig_V
    @Mig_V 8 месяцев назад

    Rest in peace Kvochur Mig-29 Fulcrum.
    Godspeed magnificent bastard.

  • @joesbbqandfootmasach723
    @joesbbqandfootmasach723 9 месяцев назад +1

    Sad I'm 97% Shure that that's Vietnam

  • @StrikeEagIe
    @StrikeEagIe 11 месяцев назад +1

    It turns you into a sitting duck

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  11 месяцев назад

      Yep

    • @AviatrixEdits
      @AviatrixEdits 6 месяцев назад

      Not irl tho, it takes too long to switch from missiles to guns.

  • @DeepSpaceIndustriesLOL
    @DeepSpaceIndustriesLOL 10 месяцев назад +1

    Why would you do it like 50 meters above the ground lol

  • @maxik123
    @maxik123 8 месяцев назад +2

    You so close to terrain

  • @funtime_ob_2
    @funtime_ob_2 10 месяцев назад

    If topgun Maverick did not give out free, plot armor

  • @beachgadgets8236
    @beachgadgets8236 2 месяца назад +1

    There is an video on youtube of actual footage of this manouvre being pulled off

  • @Frosty_WT
    @Frosty_WT 8 месяцев назад +1

    Only I can do this move smh

  • @factsforlife0O0
    @factsforlife0O0 9 месяцев назад +1

    Since im a very nice 12.0 player I would of let it work and let him kill me but still act like im trying really really hard

  • @cameronjacobs7857
    @cameronjacobs7857 11 месяцев назад +1

    The movie is a bloody SU 57

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  11 месяцев назад

      Nuh uh, it’s clearly Mig-28 >:(

  • @longshots2593
    @longshots2593 Месяц назад +1

    Is the bell the same maneuver that “pretty boy” (German pilot) pulled on lighting in red tails?

  • @MEX239
    @MEX239 11 месяцев назад +2

    It was a Su-57 not mig-29 😂😂😂😂

  • @Blazeww
    @Blazeww 10 месяцев назад +1

    I use that move with the mig29 in Ace Combat just fine and the F-18 TGM.

  • @ahah8941
    @ahah8941 9 месяцев назад +1

    reality is often times disappointing

  • @Nex5us999
    @Nex5us999 11 месяцев назад +1

    And thats why Top gun maverick is so cool but so un realistic at the same time

  • @rorymacpherson3746
    @rorymacpherson3746 Год назад +2

    This is accurate I have tried this

  • @JesusKing2024.
    @JesusKing2024. 4 месяца назад +2

    Su-57:🫷😒
    Mig-57:🫲😃

  • @norliasmith
    @norliasmith 8 месяцев назад

    Yesterday I chased down a mig29 in my mig23 ml after he quote unquote shot me down with an r27ER1, which took off my entire right wing but I was already at supersonic speeds and I continued back to my airfield and repaired, then I went right after him and launched some R24Rs right at his face.

  • @viewer1755
    @viewer1755 11 месяцев назад

    that broken wingtip did it, it wasn't purposefully

  • @Flagrantshortss
    @Flagrantshortss 22 дня назад +1

    Su-57 broo ??

  • @radonic_
    @radonic_ 10 месяцев назад +1

    war thunde players dont have to manually switch to their gun

  • @Xoda4ayatreska
    @Xoda4ayatreska Год назад +2

    to finish off someone who won't do anything to you, US pilots still probably should have the honor and not finish off the beaten one, and by the way, greetings from Russia (つ・・)つ

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  Год назад

      Greetings my friend! I’ll keep in mind next time

  • @NEOBI3479
    @NEOBI3479 10 месяцев назад +1

    Are you sure it's mig 29?
    It's actually a su 57

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  10 месяцев назад

      When did I say the jet in Top Gun is Mig-29? In the vid “Mig-29 remembers Top Gun” So he did the maneuver like in Top Gun Maverick hence I used the Top Gun Maverick clip

  • @kxlxsh
    @kxlxsh Год назад +2

    The funny thing is that wouldn’t happen, the F-16 would just burst into flames without knowing the mig 29 was even there. Cope and seethe

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  Год назад

      In War Thunder that would be unlikely due to the map size and we can literally see planes with name tag on their head

    • @kxlxsh
      @kxlxsh Год назад

      @@AvalonOfficial have you ever played realistic battles?

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  Год назад

      @@kxlxsh yes?

    • @kxlxsh
      @kxlxsh Год назад

      @@AvalonOfficial how would you see the enemy planes name tag then?

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  Год назад

      @@kxlxsh Air RB? You can clearly see the name tag and vehicle type

  • @raven_5180
    @raven_5180 9 месяцев назад +1

    ur suppose to turn off your afterburner like kill ur engine completely

  • @AtomicPigeons
    @AtomicPigeons 11 месяцев назад +1

    dude thats an su 57 in top gun ints 5th gen

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  11 месяцев назад

      Yes it was a reference to a mig29 doing the maneuver

  • @jdx7502
    @jdx7502 Год назад +1

    Pull out cobra move

  • @beauw1454
    @beauw1454 11 месяцев назад +1

    10:34 just so you know germany also has the r27er the r27r is just a earlier version in the modifications menu that you can use

    • @beauw1454
      @beauw1454 11 месяцев назад

      How tf did youtube put my comment here lmao

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  11 месяцев назад

      Yeah I was confused xD

  • @Botmini17
    @Botmini17 9 месяцев назад +2

    Want the top gun one a su-57?

  • @Ghost904sniperr
    @Ghost904sniperr 11 месяцев назад +1

    Lol he didn't not pull the cobra he didn't not cut his right engine off did not engine vector

  • @jvgameplays332
    @jvgameplays332 8 месяцев назад +1

    *Only in SB*

  • @musyabnahid8269
    @musyabnahid8269 8 месяцев назад +1

    That was su-57,😂😂

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  8 месяцев назад

      No, it’s clearly a Mig-29 😂😂

  • @United-States-Of-America307
    @United-States-Of-America307 8 месяцев назад

    How do u do that weird spin

  • @yakiho1646
    @yakiho1646 9 месяцев назад

    it wasn´t a Mig 29 it was a Su 57

  • @ernestoamesqua4848
    @ernestoamesqua4848 8 месяцев назад +1

    OH NO!!! 😮

  • @yuanfurbax
    @yuanfurbax 11 месяцев назад +2

    Yeah topgun movie is not that realistic

  • @MATTAY153
    @MATTAY153 9 месяцев назад +1

    bro this is war shit

  • @xdanoproxd6560
    @xdanoproxd6560 10 месяцев назад

    the mig was damaged so yea its really hard to pull off that maneuver with a damaged wing

    • @xdanoproxd6560
      @xdanoproxd6560 10 месяцев назад

      He was also way to close to the ground he would have stalled anyway

  • @dub-pilot
    @dub-pilot 11 месяцев назад +1

    In reality the f16 pilot wont risk crashing into the mig29 and dying except if there was a decent distance for evasion therefor in the movie shit is correct

  • @neotastic5731
    @neotastic5731 11 месяцев назад

    That’s kinda a sukoi thing my man

  • @Tk3997
    @Tk3997 6 месяцев назад

    Let me just show my whoooooole planform at like zero airspeed with effectively no attitude control to the pursing aircraft...

  • @hustlers5682
    @hustlers5682 Год назад +3

    Did u goto Avalon air show

  • @andreilupan6238
    @andreilupan6238 10 месяцев назад +1

    Bro thets a SU-57

    • @AvalonOfficial
      @AvalonOfficial  10 месяцев назад

      Yes, it’s a reference to the Mig-29 maneuver he did

  • @Ohiogyatskibdi
    @Ohiogyatskibdi 10 месяцев назад +1

    Only ac players can do that

  • @imbazohan1385
    @imbazohan1385 8 месяцев назад

    Sometimes its work

  • @GOvsJOrn
    @GOvsJOrn Год назад +1

    Yeah, but kvochur is real and maverick maneuvers are not real😅

  • @pongkhunnawachinkul1473
    @pongkhunnawachinkul1473 8 месяцев назад

    You mig 29 not Su-27

  • @Meteorknite
    @Meteorknite Год назад +1

    This is cobra maneuver with suspended extra hollywood added spin. What marvick saw isnt bell. Nor you did cobra with mig 29. You lose speed hard with cobra like in Top gun

  • @samuelmosqueraantury7322
    @samuelmosqueraantury7322 9 месяцев назад

    In the top gun dont use the mig-29, IS the su-57

  • @user-vp6dn9gt4e
    @user-vp6dn9gt4e 8 месяцев назад +1

    Its only works on dumb players i did that a few times

  • @moisesgcabral6975
    @moisesgcabral6975 9 месяцев назад +1

    Se cara usa uma manobra dessa em combate ta morto pois ele perde toda velocidade até ele recoperar ja era se no top gum quanto ele desviou do misil era so piloto puxar o gatilho pras balas de 30 mm arrebenta o avião

  • @mr.fazeli
    @mr.fazeli 10 месяцев назад

    War thunder is not really a good place to reality check things in it

  • @avis21X
    @avis21X Год назад +3

    This is what happens when people who play Ace Combat and people who watch Top Gun play a flight sim
    Source: I'm an Ace Combat player