Ep. 2 - LASER ROTARY ATTACHMENTS - Chuck Rotary Axis - Configuration, Settings - CNC Rotary Axis
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- In This Video I focus on the CHUCK ROTARY AXIS for Co2 Laser, software config, settings and Circle Pulse Calculation.
In order to use the rotary attachment you will need to change some values in the Vendor and User Settings for your controller.
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Follow instructions in the video to backup your Vendor and User Settings before you make any changes.
Let’s look at some of the values you will need
1st you will need to know the GEAR RATIO of the chuck attachment that you are using. Cloudray Chuck Rotary Axis has a gear Ratio of 2:1
If you do not have a Cloudray rotary axis, then to calculate the Gear Ratio of your attachment Either count the number of teeth on a Wheel Gear and the Stepper motor Gear, then Divide by the Number of Teeth on The Wheel Gear by the number of teeth on the stepper motor gear.
Or divide the diameter of each gear and make the same division
Next you will need to find the DIAMETER RATIO
The Diameter Ratio for Chuck Rotary Axis is 1:1
The final piece of data we need to calculate the Steps Per Rotation is the PULSE/REVOLUTION value from your Stepper Driver.
In this example the Stepper Driver is a DM542
Look at SW5 to SW8 and note how they are set on the driver. In this case
SW5 - OFF
SW6-OFF
SW7-ON
SW8-OFF
Refer to the Driver Pulse/Rev Table (in my example this =5000)
Now to work out the Steps Per Rotation (aka Circle Pulse)
Use this formula
Gear Ratio x Diameter Ratio x Pulse/Rev = Circle Pulse
2 x 1 x 5000 = 7400
10000 Steps/Revolution
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The Settings in your software (RD Works or LightBurn) need to be adjusted for each different sized material you are processing. The Constant is the Steps/Revolution aka Circle Pulse.
If your workpiece has diameter of 127mm enter this in the Diameter field of the rotary settings.
Hope you enjoy the video.
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Until next time, take care
Cheers Matthew
(MW Laser)
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This is THE most helpful video I've found on the start to finish the setup of a rotary attachment! Thank you very much for sharing!
Glad it was helpful!
I just wanted to say "THANK YOU". I have learned so much from your videos. You are very clear in your instructions and being a "newbie" to large laser it is much appreciated.
Glad to help
Its quiet, middle of the night, dark , windy outside. I decide to watch your video to figure my chuck out. The previous video watched was quiet so volume was up . randomly skip to 0:49 and boom I now am cleaning up a mess on my chair and looking for heart calming medication. otherwise great video !!!
yeah, my bad - I had weird audio issues with my earlier videos. I hope they have improved since. Cheers Matt
Thank you! Been trying to get my rotary attachment working for months. Finally found this and was up and running in minutes!
Glad I could help!
Probably the best video I've seen so far... thank you so much
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. How did you learn all this? Especially since Chinese machines, or at least mine, come with almost no useful information and they're nothing like the ease of use of an American machine, particularly the rotary device, where all you need to know is the diameter of the item you're engraving. This video has been invaluable! Thanks again.
I learn by experience, trying, failing and researching. I also have a good support network of manufacturers and technicians. I'm thankful for your feedback. Cheers Matt
thanks for the informative video. I just got a Chuck rotary and am going to make the discs you use to hold the material.
yes they are great - I still use the original ones I made in this video.
Perfect tutorial, thanks a lot, very clear and concise. Your little holding idea is spot on too, a great idea.
Glad it was helpful!
This is an amazing video. I love the holder idea.
Thanks
Hello, I found your video very informative and easy to follow which I appreciate very much. in any event I did all the steps right along with you and set up both Lightburn and RDworks. However, there is something not right in lightburn and I can't for the life of me figure out what is going on. The steps per rotation in the machine settings keeps changing to some odd 73 number after I update and write the 80mm chuck size to my machine. Also, I am using current position and placed it in various starting points and the same issue happens when running a test engrave. When the test file is run the rotary spins around a few times and then starts the burn in a different place on the cup than where I wanted it to start. Then when I run the file again after moving the file down in my work area and resending to the machine, the rotary goes around a few times and then goes back up to the original test area and lasers over the previous test run. I'm at my wits end trying to figure out what is going on. I've asked on a few Omtech sites but the answers are basically you don't know what your doing and then they stop replying. If you can give me any insight on why this may be occurring I would be very grateful.
Thanks so much for your help and informativeness! It is very much appreciated mate!
Sorry I didn't see this comment earlier - Thank you. I'm glad you found the video helpful. Cheers Matt
thank you!!!! .... the best guide for rotary attachment
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback
Love that material holder great stuff and great video on rotary thx for all your hard work
I'll make you one :) ... Wait I already did. Hope it works well. :)
Thank you so very much for your video. Can you tell me what the 3 pointed like screws are for?
magic mate! can finally get my rotary dialled in,in Lightburn. Cheers
Happy I could assist.
Thank you for the tips. Very helpful videos mate.
Glad you like them!
Great Video Matt, I'm gaining confidence to give this my Chuck type Rotary a go ... couple questions.
Do I need to disable the Homing process? Is there a setting for that?
I'm unsure of the Rotary's positioning when placed in the machine .. as I face my laser is the Rotary positioned lengthwise Left to Right with the Rotary's drive assy on the left?
Really appreciate your efforts, this is by far the best and most comprehensive on going tutorial available relating to the Chinese Laser machines for the users trying to learn about the Rotary.
Thanks!! Tim
Hi Tim, The rotary usually goes into the machine in the orientation with the Rotary Assay on the Right, I did it in reverse as I was having difficulty videoing the shots and not being ambidextrous this was easier for me. (as a result I had to reverse the homing position and start locations) I'm hoping I have not confused anyone by doing this.
It is wise to disable the Y-Axis homing before attaching the rotary, as theY axis will spin constantly until it finds the limit switch. If you do not turn off the Y Axis homing then you would need to manually move the axis rail up to the limit switch to reset and then manually return it to the working location above the rotary axis.
The setting for disabling the 'homing position' was mentioned in Episode.1 at ruclips.net/video/Y-NzNeaOegI/видео.html
and also in this video at 2:35
There was so much to cover in this video and I didn't want to bombard viewers with too much info. I understand there will a lot of questions and I'm happy to answer them, I may compile them all and make an additional video answering common questions on topics I have not covered or that need clarification.
Sorry I needed to Edit this Comment as I did not read the initial question properly. :)
Cheers Matthew
Sorry Tim I needed to Edit the previous Comment as I did not read the initial question properly. :) I have corrected my answer Regards Matthew
@@MWLaser hi there love your videos I really need some help wiring in a chuck rotary that has a stepper driver built into it . So maybe it can go straight in to the u driver
Hello and in the Software of the Redsail machines how would it be configured correctly in the AUTOLASER program I have this rotary but I can't find the correct configuration thanks and excellent your videos
What's the difference between the 2-phase and the 3-phase chuck rotary? Which should I order for the red-and-black 80W laser?
they are different stepper motors and use a diver to suit. The Red&Black normally uses a 2 phase motor. to check, look at your Y axis Driver (if on it it has printed connections for A+ A- B+ B- then it is a 2 phase, if it has connections U V W then you will need a 3 phase.
Hi, good work, sorry, how many steps per rotation do you insert in the program?
Thank you for this video
My pleasure
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Great information and helped alot. I've just got my laser and it has a switch to swap between plane / rotary. I understand you have backed up your ruida settings via lightburn and then edited them for the rotary....including the homing option. When I go back to plane (standard lasering) do I need to send back to the controller the backed up settings? How does it home with the edited settings?
Many thanks
Can you email me more info, not sure I can explain via comments Cheers askmatt@mwlaser.com.au
@@MWLaser Why when I use rotary chuck attachment my laser engraving "invert-mirror" image...I need to manually before start horizontal mirror image to get what I want... @MW Laser
think you
Sorry I didn't see this comment earlier - Thank you. I'm glad you found the video helpful. Cheers Matt
hello, very helpful video, do you know why i cant see the rotary option on tools tab...is already enabled on settings...my laser is just like yours. (black and red)
What controller and software are you using? email matt@mwlaser.com.au for support
(1) How does one remove the honeycomb bed to access the rotary attachment -- is it just four screws? (2) Can one generally store the rotary attachment under the workspace as long as one is not working on very thick stock? (3) Does one have to worry about the rotary attachment drifting about on the "floor" of the laser, i.e., does it have to be secured at all on the floor of the laser cutter?
Hi, I have replied to you in more detail via email. But the short answers to your questions are:
1 - Yes 4 Screws to remove honeycomb, but not always necessary to remove.
2 - No it is not a good idea to store anything under the honeycomb table
3 - No, you should not need to secure it
Cheers Matt
Why when I use rotary chuck attachment my laser engraving "invert-mirror" image...I need to manually before start horizontal mirror image to get what I want... @MW Laser
Hi , where you can find info about amount of steps for rotation ? thank you
steps / rot are printed on the stepper motor driver. Match the table up with the current DIP switch settings.
AakMatt@mwlaser.com.au
Did you make the setting change in rd works then u went to lightburn?
when you change settings in RD works Vendor Tools, it saves this to the controller, so if you change it in one software (LightBurn / RD Works) it will be the same in the other software as it is reading info from controller not the software.
@@MWLaser thanks buddy, I enjoy ur videos
Hello
I own a laser machine with a system (rdlc320).
I bought a Rotary device.
But the measurements were not good.
I watched this good video and noticed that you are using the RDworks-V8.1.40 version.
I downloaded the copy and when I opened ((other)) it was the way you showed
But after pressing the (read) key, the (Rotary) settings disappear.
Save me, what is the solution?
send support requests to matt@mwlaser.com.au send screenshots of what you are referring to as this will help
Hi, i like your videos, and i want to ask you about rotary set up, if i enable the rotary it doesnt do nothing, if not enabled it moves, is a machine of Gweike, they said that dont need to enable rotary, that just need to change steps size in Y axis, i think this is not practical to be changing those numbers in factory setting, what can tell me about that. Thank you.
Email me more information on your machine and rotary setup and software. To matt@mwlaser.com.au and I will assist via email, Cheers Matt
My steps change every time with a different cup.. what am I doing wrong? I'm using a roller style
roller style requires input of diameter for each different size object
Will this work for rings?
with something to hold them possibly
How much
Hi
I own an old system ((laser machine)
And I want to know how to change the axis-y scaling for a rotary
Not on the program but on the screen
Can you please help me
A measuring 1cm is drawn on the cylinder, 2 .2 cm
email matt@mwlaser.com.au
Do you sell the rotary disk thing already made? How much if so
I don't at the moment - but if you email me I can arrange it. Matt@mwlaser.com.au
whatis the version do you use mine dose not have that (processing auxiliary other) option ?
v8.01.54
you can download from my website mwlaser.com.au/sdm_downloads/
Merhaba whatsapp iletişim numarasından size ulaşma şansımız var mı yardımınıza ihtiyacım var rotary divizör ile ilgili.
I can help via email in english - matt@mwlaser.com.au