Blacksmithing - Heat treating hammer dies
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- In this video I heat treat my power hammer dies that I modified a while back. This was pretty easy to do with my new electric kiln.
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I truly like that you keep your hammer dies performing their best. I've questioned why others don't care for their equipment. I've seen anvils, hammers, and punches that need attention.
Anyway, I always enjoy your videos and sharing your skills and knowledge. That includes seeing the beautiful property where you live. THANK YOU!
You are by far the best blacksmith on RUclips
I'm pretty sure I'm not but thank you anyway!!
This just might be my favorite video that you’ve ever made. I love how the format is slightly different but still the same. You’ve added interesting things, like music but just for a few seconds and also you just started talking to the camera more and also explaining the process of not just what your doing but why you are doing it. But not talking so much that it overtakes the video. Plus I’ve always wondered how they used those files to determine steel hardness. Thank you for all the hard work that you put into these videos. Great Job !!!!
Cool, thanks Tony!
Love the educational content! Usually loving the quiet videos, but I love the explanation throughout! Great job!
Odlično zvuči sa objašnjenjem!
Retko interesantan čovek.
Pozdrav iz Srbije!
It's always nice to hear you talk... even better when you explain things. Top notch vid with added extras (mushroom hunting this time) as usual.
Still cannot get over how massive the base for this hammer was. That was an awesome install video- great to watch it all take shape and improve!
Yes,my first video from TÅ,stayed ever after :0)
I enjoy watching the process. And the running dialogue is a treat.
He speaks! Wonderful to finally hear you my man long time follower. (: Love watching you work, always nice to see someone that really knows their craft.
My pleasure!
Oh my, he speaks!! I find your videos so calming, maybe because there is just great craftmanship without much sound, just a natural workshop noise. Great mushrooms btw, I love them, tasty.
The quench was indeed quite a nerve racking process to watch. Glad it turned out as you planned it. Top notch dies afterwards. Congrats!
In this clip the general public will not understand what you are explaining unless the viewer is a blacksmith. You are very educated in your profession.
I feel your dismissiveness towards the hoi polloi, but c'mon ... not everyone out here is either a dullard or a blacksmith. I myself am neither, and i suspect most onlookers would zero or one (out of 2) as well.
I had zero trouble following along. Then again, pretty i'm far from normal.
Nice video. I liked hearing you talking us through this process. I also like the "quiet" videos of you were you let the pictures speak for itself, but this was a nice change of the format!
You are a plethora of knowledge...a true Renaissance man...
perfect alignment as is everything you make!
I would have preferred something like 6150 (Chrome-Vanadium) spring steel. Just as easy to cut, work and heat-treat (oil) as 1045 but the vanadium would ensure they outlast the 1045 many times over. Have you considered videos showing the differences in heat treatment of various steels? They would get many new subscribers outside of the forging community.
Indeed 1045 is not ideal, but they will do fine for a while. I will consider new ones when the time is right. L6 or H13 is my choice.
@@torbjornahman H13 would be best, no doubt, although heat treatment is tougher for the typical shop. You have a very nice oven/kiln so you should be just fine. Give some thought to the heat treat videos, it might be a good ´hook´ to entice new viewers. Take care.
1045 is the traditional choice for hammers and other impact tools. While true that modern engineering alloys may outperform it in certain aspects (6051 contains chrome and vanadium to both improve corrosion properties and toughness), 1045 is a cheap and simple alternative (as it is simply plain carbon steel).
@@kkuhn question: would spring-tempered 1075 work for a special, e.g. “raising” hammer?
Oil quench in 120 F. Canola, draw to 400 F?
Am a blacksmith in Australia,used a power hammer repairs of chisel and moil points for jack hammers,used 1070/1080 for blocks.Scale certainly damages blocks if not kept clean.
Your skills as a teacher has always been great and I enjoyed hearing instructions even better, I am American and English is my language and hopefully others can get this very fine video for their language.
Great teaching Sir.
Thank you for the teaching Sir 😊
The narration really adds to the video. Thank you!
Thanks, it would have been hard to do this video without it I think....
Fantastic work, as always. Really glad you took the time to explain the process and why it's important! I hope you'll provide similar commentary in future works - seeing the work and hearing why it is done a certain way makes for a great learning experience!
This is one of the best videos I have watched on Harding , very well explained and educational. :)
Thank you!
I love watching you perform maintenance on any element of the power hammer. It is such a beautiful machine.
I really enjoy these voiced videos. They are very calm and relaxing. You have an amazing forest there!
Thanks! Yes we have a lot of trees here :)
Love your videos your attention to detail is great. You’re a wonderful blacksmith. Just wanted to give you a little tip on heat treating for one when your heat treating carbon steel fast Austination is key so make sure your oven is up to temperature before you put in your part. whenever you are tempering anything make sure your oven is up to temperature before hand or the elements will super heat the surface trying to catch the oven back up to temperature which could over temper your product.
I like this kind of video. Hearing you speak is calming. Also great luck with finding kantarels!
I think so too. The explanation is very informative and good to understand. And the voice is really very calming. 😊
You are NOT remarkable, you are beyond REMARKABLE. Very well done in all aspects. I wish you nothing but the best of health and prosperity in the future. Beautiful...
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*- My lady friend/partner says you make it easy to understand Everything, Torbjörn.*
*- Thank you, Sir.*
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That's nice to hear! Thanks
In the 70’s, during my apprenticeship in a traditional blacksmith shop, an old timer came by and it was announced he would work with me to make my first hammer.
Three of us forged it out, punched and drifter the hole, and then I learned about all the cans on the ceiling. Each one was a different size with different patterns of holes punched into the bottom.
The old timer took an old coffee can 3” across on the bottom with 4 holes in a circle pattern. We were using coke. Once hammer face was hardened in water, he had me clean the face up and then we heated the face to red/yellow. Really just the top inch. Then with the hammer face facing the ceiling, he scooped up water from slop tub with the can, and allowed a stream of water onto the face, mostly in the middle. The water stream heated and flowed over the edge of the hammer face.
This simple technique, cooled the face first. This allowed the hammer to be harder in the middle of the face and softer on the outside and left the rest of the hammer annealed. I used that thing for 40 years and it worked perfectly.
I enjoy hearing you speak about your work.
I know you call it "damage", myself, I'd call that "character" for the power hammer. Now, I'm not saying they didn't need to be heat treated. The way you take care of your equipment, those dies will last you a very long time. Love your videos, cheers :)
Now it all makes sense!
And then there are the beautiful shots of your woods….
I worked in a tool and die shop a number of years ago and one of my first jobs was heat treating the dies after they had been machined. Your comment about tempering was absolutely right. I made that mistake only once. The guy that made the die made me sit and watch for two days while he remade the die. It wasn't boring at all, I learned a lot but the stool he made me sit on was torture.
Ouch, a good lesson I guess! Thanks
Nice explanation of the hardening/tempering process, I learned quite a lot.
You are truly a master at what you do. I truly love watching your videos....
Nice work on the heat treat! Cool play buttons also. Thanks for the video.
I wanted to thank you for sharing the beautiful scenery around your home. You are an incredible ambasador for your country with those scenes.
Thank you Robert!
Vitor, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil: I watch your videos from Brazil, your workplace is very clean and organized and the editing and preparation of the videos is very good. Congratulations for your work!!
Congratulations on finding those chanterelles! They look super tasty. We just found 500g a couple weeks ago.
Yes, it's been raining quite much for a couple of weeks and that really helps them to pop up!
@@torbjornahman I also used to pulling them out of the ground with the root instead cutting them with a knife at the root, leaving the root in the ground, and then few years later my forest stop producing them! Use a well-forged blade
@@Armando7654 that is not true. Mushrooms are just the fruiting bodies of the mushroom - "flowers" of the mushroom if you will. Usually over 90% of mushroom is underneeth the ground in a network of mycelium.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycelium
But it doesn't hurt to leave the mycelium intact but pulling them won't hurt next years harvest.
Great video! I look forward to seeing the notification that you have posted a new one. About tempering after heat threating: When I was getting started, I heat treated a meat cleaver but ran out of daylight before I tempered it. I didn't know about tempering in my kitchen oven. The cleaver was sitting on my kitchen table and I was talking to my wife when we heard a loud "ping!" I looked at the cleaver and, sure enough, it had about a two-inch crack from the edge into the body of the blade. Lesson learned.
Ouch, yes that's not a fun sound.... Thanks Eric.
блин я восхищаюсь этим дядькой. его мастерством, образом мышления и его бытом.
Он крут-он сам херачит кнопки ютюба)
Да, уникальный контент)
Very motivational
I personally liked when you explained what you were doing and when you were talking
I enjoy watching your content and how you strive for perfection. You make it look easy but it's not, it's skill💯👌
Thank you and God bless
Thanks!
Thanks for sharing your journey with this with us. Looking forward to see how the dies hold up over time.
Sir, you are amazing to watch... Your narrative is excellent as well.
Thank you for sharing your talents with us!
As always a great video! Thank you so much for adding real quality to the RUclips world. The mix of shop time with additional content is fantastic. Thank you again.
Thank you so much!!
Great vid about quenching and tempering.
I'm just a beginner. Thanks for sharing.
I always enjoy your videos, both the craftsmanship and the clam measured approach to the work. Thanks!
7:10 whoaaa I genuinely thougt it was going to fall. Very good grip you have on your hands.
A really great start with the new kiln! Looking forward to what you have for us next.👍🏼👍🏼😀
even though i have never made anything via metal..i have become fascinated by your videos..the family activities and wide variety of a family unit that does things right is most appealing..peace and health in these difficult times..
I nearly fell off my chair when you spoke !
Some (most )RUclips creators talk more than they create , some create more than they talk( i prefer these !) but some just add a little bit of commentary when needed and it lifts the video into a new level - that is what you did here
Torbjörn ! That heat treat oven looks like a fantastic piece of equipment !
Fantastic video - thank you!
I might try some 1045 for the cam lobes on my model engines , at the moment I'm using 4140 and some case hardening compound (cherry red ) but if I can get a decent thickness hard skin around 50 RC with a soft core I will be happy .
:) Thank you Ian! Why case harden 4140? It get's plenty hard as it is, no?
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It is just for wear - the cam lobe and lifter are case hardened leaving the core soft so it doesn’t snap , I could through harden it as well but the quench can distort the part and the cherry red compound can be left to cool slowly - On the very small engines I make the camshaft is only 6-8 mm diameter .
It also depends on how much running it will do , if it will only be run occasionally I don’t bother with hardening and I use 4140 as I have lots of it laying around 😀
@@ianbertenshaw4350 So you don't quench after applying the cherry red? I'm quite skeptical that you gain any extra hardness from that. Have you tried to use mild steel and case harden (with quenching)? As only the surface will harden I don't think it will deform much.
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You can quench with cherry red compound but don’t have to - the link above is to a video explaining the procedure . To get the hardness I have to do it a couple of times and this also makes the hard skin a little thicker .I don’t really like using it as it gives off some fumes when it comes into contact with the hot steel . I need to get a move on and build my camshaft grinder , that way I can heat and quench then finish grind so any distortion will be removed and I can change the design so the core of the shaft is a little thicker. Might have been my quenching technique that caused the distortion - I think for something like this it needs to go into the water with the shaft perpendicular to the surface of the water .
Anyhow it is something for me to play with 😀
Strange if it works! It's there only to dissolve more carbon into the surface, but without a quench no martensite will form. However the added carbon might make the surface a little harder by itself without actual hardening. If it works, it works! :) Deformation is always an issue I think, something you can't work around just make it as less prominent as possible.
The maintenance of machines and tools, is a very important part of the workshop and little visualized. Good joob.
Greetings and good day.
You the man ThunderBear! I would not be where I am currently as a smith if it werent for these videos 🙇. I am eternally greatful.
Wow, that's great to hear! Thank you
A voice over video from you! Extra pleasure! Perfect job! I'm sure these dies will last for ever!Keep it up and enjoy a well deserved dinner with mushrooms!
Great video!! You had a complex situation and persevered. Your knowledge is so priceless!
Very interesting and informative video to learn more about heat treating, tack!
It is just AWESOME hear you talking through the entire video!!! I wish you did that more often!
Would be amazing to have one of those keychains!!! Fantastic video!!! Thank you for sharing!
Thank you Nelson! The keychains are available here - www.patreon.com/torbjornahman
@@torbjornahman Just Subscribed! Thank you Torbjörn!!!
This was a fun episode to watch. Thanks for all the monologue and in English! I know you’ve been hesitant to speak on camera but people really want to hear what you have to say. There’s nothing wrong with your normal silent videos either so keep em coming. Forgive me if I’ve been too presumptuous. 💪❤️🌈🦄
Thanks Tim!
There's a video of My Mechanics making power hammer dies for Black Beard Projects, it was awesome! Definitely worth watching.
Great video as always. You have a very good to understand voice. You have a great ability to explain what you are doing with or without your voice. Thank you very much for sharing...
I have only just found you. Wonderful content. Thank you and please dont stop.
Great, thanks!
Me watching Torbjörn remove the damaged dies: "he's pretty good with a hammer" . . .
Yeah, it only took me a few seconds to call myself dumb
:)
Never thought I'd hear metal meowing. Great video!
Very informative, pleased the kiln worked well, it looks like a very good unit , I’m sure you’d be pleased with it. Many years ago I worked in a factory producing hardened gears and sprockets, we used a “Rockwell” machine that measured the mark made by the impression of a diamond into the surface of the steel. That beautiful countryside has me dreaming about rosettes and billy tea ,might start working on that tunnel again 😂. Regards from Down Under.
Yes a machine like that can be useful, but pricey for the small amount of stuff you normally make.
Yes, you’re correct, a big outlay, the files certainly do a good enough job for what you are producing.
I have been watching your videos off and on for the last 2 years maybe. This is the first time I have heard you speak. Was a little surprised it was in English. :) love your work reminds of Metal Shop class in high school.
Awesome stuff Torbjörn! Sooo much more to know about metal working than just heat and hammering!
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Yes, much more I'm afraid! :)
Thank you for imparting us with the knowledge you share with us
Well that was awesome thank you so much for that great information.That was one of the reasons I subscribed to your channel as I’m getting into working with steel.And I’m getting heaps of knowledge from you.So thank you for creating such a great channel
Thank you thunder bear! Hope to see you again soon!
Its great to hear you explane stuff , other than just video and no voice ,, thank you gives us more indept ways thinhs go , thank you gteat video bud 😉👍
Excellent video with just the right amount of talking to the camera. Explaining what you're doing and why. Very educational! Nice work as always! 🍻🤘💜
I liked how you explained things. Thank you for that. I always enjoy your content, but i do prefer the no music better.
Love the narration in your English is great! I wondered about the oil/water quenching, now I know! Thanks
This is a powerful hammer and so nice
Enjoyed you talking through the steps.
Great content. Thanks for the commentary, very educational
I'm a little late to the party, but; damn you're a blacksmith, not a media personality. And, I LOVE that.
It is one of the best videos you uploaded, thanks for the lesson
Wow, thanks!
Awesome and educational video 👌🍻
I always love your videos, the part when you take us in nature is just calming and beautifull and unique on a forge channel :) I like very much that you talk to us and explain things, thou you've made clear thing without, keep on! And about the hardness files, i've seen them in Stefan Gotteswinter's videos, and i think starting with the 40 HRC one is better because u'll theoretically leave just one mark. Thank you!
You're too kind, thanks! If you're concerned by the marks you can go that way, on the other hand you dull the soft files faster :)
I appreciate the explanations as you work. It helps quite a bit! Thanks.
Very interesting video. I’d love one of those two machines you’ve used
Very interesting subject. I would have assumed that hammer dies were something you'd just buy from an outside vendor. I'm impressed that they're something you can handle yourself.
Excellent work, impressive Heat treatment kiln.
Thanks for sharing.
This is awesome, I love the amount of control you can have with that kiln! Was great hearing you talk a bit more too mate! Hope you and yours are well too!
:O you have some absolutely gorgeous countryside near you, love that you take the time to go out foraging, and gardening etc, really makes the channel special
Thanks Sam!
Awesome video , great flush of smooth chanterelles you found as well.keep the great content coming my friend
You ROCK , my friend! Great variety of content, awesome products and the knowledge and skill sets to back it all up! Well done sir 👏
Much appreciated, thanks!!
Needed to see that, recently built a power hammer and bought a new set of dies from old stock that the business I buy a lot of coke, tools and other bits from had left over from when they sold power hammers. They were machined but not dressed and after dressing and using them I have found they are not hard, or at least not hard enough! Alan told me he thinks they were 1045 but couldn’t be sure. I can now harden and temper them which I now don’t think was ever done! I’ll let you know how it goes!
Great! Do a couple of spark tests and compare with known steel. 1045 is quite easy to distinguish from the higher alloys like H13 and S7, which would require a different approach.
Very nice work as usual. Thanks for the training.
thank you for sharing. And please explain more often in detail what you think is of interest. Forging and nature are going very well side by side here :-)
this video was instructive and entertaining . thank you
Great info. I'm afraid you'll have to talk from now on. Yes, it was that much better that now everyone will ask for more of it :)
Ha ha! :)
Nice video Torbjorn- keep up the good work
Ismét kaptam egy remek oktató videót, érdekes és tanulságos!
Igy még a vas-szén állapot ábra is érdekesebb :D !
Hajrá !
Thank you for a very interesting & informative video. After the "harsh" environment of your workshop it must be very restful getting outside into the beautiful countryside. 🙂
Thank you so much for kindly explanation and also using Japanese product, from Japan.❤
You have very good knowledge about heat treatment , I had learned something
Great educational video. I have a question - With the hardness files, why do you start with the hardest and work down instead of starting with the softest and working up?
Or is it because starting at the softer file on the harder material risks damaging more files than necessary until reaching the correct hardness files?
Actually, thinking about it, I may have just answered my own question here lol
Thanks! Yes I think that is the case. The softer files will wear down with time.
That’s interesting, my first thought was starting with the hard file you would be unnecessarily scratching softer material until you got to the correct file but a few scratches is better than damaging expensive hardness files!
Thanks for sharing. Greetings from Buenos Aires Argentina
Very good explanation, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Awesome to hear your voice, a treat especial! Thank you for sharing your process of doing this. If we don't care for our tools our tools can't care for us, eh? And I think its >0.83% carbon where one would start using oil, although I may be wrong and I am sure there are oddities and exceptions. -Not a pro, just a jack.
really cool! well done with explanation and using hardening files.. never seen such a great example.. ty!