Through almost 3 decades of providing a residential architectural design service, I have learned that communication is key. But to also strive to keep myself aware of what builders will follow and what they won't, and to always offer to meet and discuss the architectural intent. As we are continuing full-speed-ahead into the bureaucratic nature and overburden of code regulations and restrictions, things are simply going to continue to get more tense between all entities involved. I have begun to 3D model various portions of a project design to take into account these overlaps of structural design and typical or common framing methods, to strive to take all into account while the project is in digital development. Hopefully as time proceeds forward, the architectural and contractor spectrum of individuals involved can find some common interests in addressing things for a shared goal of quality for our clients who are providing for our lives.
lol, gotta love fungineers and smartchitects sometimes. Just give me all the important dimensions with the etch a sketch, I'm a dumb framer I can't add up 13 different numbers to get my measurement. Sometimes you think you're mentally deficient too. I've had the odd plan where the numbers don't add up and I assume I'm just making a stupid mistake somewhere and waste an hour quintuple checking my math before realizing that for once I'm not the dumb one. It does make you really appreciate when you get to work with architects who actually understand how the people building the project think and make the plans, and the design, something that is just easier to work with and build.
I’m an architect and a contractor and I typically design and build most of my projects. Between all the nonsense information the city needs on the plans and what gets used in the field is a far cry. You can’t plan for everything and even I still make mistakes on my own plans . Contractors love to complain though 🙄
I once had a conversation with a very wise, capable, and experienced contractor who told me that people often complain about architects and engineers, even though they usually get 99.999% of their work correct. He admitted that his own track record, and that of his peers, was rarely that good. He emphasized the importance of a good contractor checking the drawings and asking for additional information before starting work with saws and hammers.
Well said. In my area “contractors” get their work by word of mouth. Small towns are the worst because the same mediocre builder gets the jobs because people know who he is. And only because of that. I worked for a guy that is the local “youth leader” at the biggest church in the county. He’s extremely overweight and lazy. I wouldn’t pay him to build a doghouse. He keeps his business because Mississippi is really light on codes and regs. He wouldn’t last a month in a place like Houston or Nashville. I feel bad for the people that give him money to screw up their house.
I wonder if any of those missing dimension would create an over-constraint situation. Obviously that's still not an excuse to place a driven dimension.
@@AwesomeFramers In Fusion360, at least, but I suppose in any parametric CAD, if one tries to put too many dimensions on a drawing, you'll get an "over constraint" warning. A simple example would be drawing a rectangle, specifying that the corners are right angles, and then if you to dimension both long edges, the second will make the drawing "over constrained". The last version of AutoCAD I worked with was v12 back around the mid 90s, but I've been learning Fusion360 for the last few years.
The place I work has been doing building upgrades and renovations in the last couple years - and the architect is always a pain in the butt. From the first meeting we have, we tell him WE NEED A TELCOM CLOSET IN THE NEW SECTION. It isn't. MAYBE by the time construction starts he's added it. But usually cable drops are missing. Power is too far away. It's annoying.
I can't remember if that is how its shown in the literature. I'd say do it the way they show it for your brand of literature, but I would think it doesn't matter. They aren't there for uplift, but to keep them in place laterally.
Not to question your abilities, but how did you make sure the joists were plumb and on layout when you nailed them off? Is it, that the bottom surface of the LVL part is so reliably dead flat, that they plumb themselves automagically when they get 1 nail on each side or is eyeballing good enough? I'm asking because I didn't see you marking layout on top of the rim joist.
Yeap you got the ima naileverything itis .let someone else use the nail gun dude your all about teaching .telling someone how to do or u know something.let them nail it.
The other framer's name is Brandon. I did NOT work a "let's go Brandon" in there as a reference. The joke about the media is a joke. Where was the complaint about authority? A complaint about the lack of quality is not the same thing. You hearing this through the filter of your own bias.
I personally think any architects or engineers should be required to have 2-3 years of working in the field after their education before they can get their certifications. Some are really good, but not enough of them.
They do have to work under a licensed architect or engineer for several years before they get their PE. While it's not required to be in the field, they are frequently the ones who go to the field, especially if the municipal inspectors aren't able competent for evaluating the construction (typically commercial), or to approve field deviations from the plan. So, they should have since field experience, but not necessarily in the type of construction they do when they first started.
After completing their degree, graduate architects undergo a 3-4 year internship under the direct supervision of a licensed architect. During this period, they must gain experience working on various types and sizes of projects. The internship is based on logged hours and requires certification from a licensed and supervising architect. After successfully completing the internship, they must pass national examinations, which are known to be quite challenging. It’s not common to encounter architects who are under the age of 28. Architects must complete mandatory continuing education each year in order to maintain their license. A licensed architect's primary responsibility is to protect the public. Most issues between architects and clients are contractual in nature. Many clients shop for the lowest price, which is obviously a mistake in any marketplace. A very wise, capable and experienced contractor once told me that everyone likes to complain about architects and engineers even though they typically get 99.999% of their work correct. He freely admitted that his track record and that of his peers were rarely that good. A good contractor checks the drawings and asks for additional information before they pull out a saw and hammer.
After completing their degree, graduate architects undergo a 3-4 year internship under the direct supervision of a licensed architect. During this period, they must gain experience working on various types and sizes of projects. The internship is based on logged hours and requires certification from a licensed and supervising architect. After successfully completing the internship, they must pass national examinations, which are known to be quite challenging. It’s not common to encounter architects who are under the age of 28. Architects must complete mandatory continuing education each year in order to maintain their license. A licensed architect's primary responsibility is to protect the public. Most issues between architects and clients are contractual in nature. Many clients shop for the lowest price, which is obviously a mistake in any marketplace. A very wise, capable and experienced contractor once told me that everyone likes to complain about architects and engineers even though they typically get 99.999% of their work correct. He freely admitted that his track record and that of his peers were rarely that good. A good contractor checks the drawings and asks for additional information before they pull out a saw and hammer.
Every Framer I’ve EVER MEET can do the Job of Every Architecture or Engineer. There not Needed over paid on paper! But couldn’t nail a board to a board if there life depended on it! Now a stapler they can work well! Lmao
When I was a young apprentice working for my uncle he was building an addition designed by a nationally known architect for a best selling author. The plans had a schedule of window sizes, the plan view showed the location of each window, but the elevations showed no dimensions how far above the floor to place the windows. Uncle Art had sat with the plans one evening scaling those dimensions. The day after we had framed and sheathed what would become the new front entrance to the house the the homeowner’s wife came out and said she didn’t think the window openings flanking the front door looked right. The architect was called and he showed up around noon and proclaimed the window rough openings to be correct.
Did you happen to mention telehandlers when you met up with the Perkins Bros? I can't believe they don't rent/own one for their builds, ESPECIALLY after seeing everything you can do with yours.
I tried to have this conversation with an older and now retired builder about how blueprints require so much work at the job site and there has to be a better way. Your comment about them neglecting useful measurements because they can click a mouse twice and get it. What prevents the builder from having that access at the job site? Digital blue prints that is. Your decades of experience help show problem solving and working on the fly but that’s a steep learning curve and when you are seeing million dollar+ houses framed by hacks then what more proof do you need that there is an issue?
@@AwesomeFramers I would love to see a video showing you laying out with a set of blue prints on site and adding the useful measurements to the blue prints and naming them. Ps I don’t think framers should have to invest to get that info but if you did have a laptop or tablet with the plans on them could you get relevant info to speed up your job?
@AwesomeFramers i looked into sketchup, only reason I'm not doing it is i think Chief will be better with details. But who knows. I've only hand drawn my stuff. i don't know anything about this stuff.😂 I believe in crash course learning.
Just wow, how do I share with all what I did? I can not post pics of similar that get deleted. Did 23 feet in a 9 inch steel beam destroying a center hall colonial. You really need to think about mixing “steel” with wood. Jump farther with composite lumber with the help of steel. If you do just composite lumber your like a “co-axe” speaker,,, if you add “steel” to the mix, it is like adding a subwoofer. And doing massive spans, it’s like mixing commercial with residential. You can go farther, and f the architect.
I draw plans. I run a string of dimensions that start at the outside corner, go to the center of the first opening, then align with the near edge of the first wall, the center of the next opening, the near edge of the next wall, etc., all the way until the far side of the building. I go back and run a second string that only shows wall locations, NO openings. I finish that side of the building with a single dimension that shows the overall, outside to outside. If there are walls in the interior that are not located by the exterior dimension strings, I run as many interior strings as required. What I described is supposed to be standard, but I have seen a lot of plans that do not do it that way. One thing I do that is not standard, I'll draw one dimension to some wall that's out in the middle. You are supposed to give two dimensions, one on each side of the wall. But by the time you are dimensioning the center area, you already have a crowded drawing and muddying it up any further with a redundant dimension seems to cause more problems than it solves. One other thing that I do is put the dimensions on a floor plan that is ONLY there for dimensions. No notes, no door or window sizes, nothing but dimensions so a person has a decent chance of reading them. That means the framer has to refer to two sheets to get dimensions AND determine nominal opening sizes, but I think that being able to read the dimensions clearly is more important. I haven't heard any complaints from framers, but I'd be interested to hear feedback.
One thing to add if you haven't already is a window/door schedule with R/O (rough-openings) for the manufacturer to reference. One less thing for the site crews to confirm in the field. We also add the load points from above so the support can be built with the walls. Not necessary for experienced framers but I would like to think it saves time backframing. Cheers!
@@mdun1440 I don't spec door or window brands, I just write the nominal size and type in place on the drawing. I have done door and window schedules for architects I've worked for, but even they seem to be backing away from them for residential jobs. They add a lot of extra work, and clients have a tendency to change their mind about products between the time the plans are drawn, and the house gets built. That's why I leave the selection of door and window brands and models to the owner. The contractor can sway them towards the type they prefer if they like. As for posts and columns, they are called out on the framing plan.
Love how you use the forklift to hand off materials to the boom lift in order to overcome that stupid pinch point in the driveway. Intelligent use of equipment!
I find architects waste a bunch of time not providing dimensions Toni bought a copy of autocad. Then I just send them an email of entry if I need to dimension as a CYA. On a side note, what are we building in this homes back yard?
I’ve worked with open web trusses and can see the advantage for plumbers, HVAC and electricians. They don’t have to cut holes in the I joists to route pipes, ducting etc. Which do you prefer? Are open trusses as strong as I joists? My bathroom floor was framed with I joists (over a garage) that were doubled up for a long span of like 25’ at least, 14” OC. (no lally column). There was significant movement in the floor and you could feel it. On a future build, I’m curious if open trusses would be better.
I would recommend you get pricing for both I Joists and floor trusses. I find there is more noticeable vibration with open web and for us the cost was much higher.
A draftsman should be all most people need. They can provide plans at a fraction of the cost unless you are in an area that requires stamped and sealed drawings.
I agree. In all the years our company has been in business, we've used draftsman. We were handed this job with the permit already pulled. I think we could have saved this client 100k if we'd been involved earlier.
To the king of logistics, it is a beautiful handshake to see delivery, that said,,,,. If the anchor rods are that bad thenjust cut them all off and do masonry bolts to same code. It is less time in your head thinking about it, when you know the solution is in the truck, solved in less than 30 minutes. ‘O” in that dustless thing in SDS, outside, ok, I’ll buy that for 30 seconds,, give me the 9 inch 60 volt, grinder, i have some short cutting to do. Yes it is a DeWalt 6 inch grinder in Flex 60 volt custom built tool. Can also do 9 inch diamond blades. Give me 5 minutes,,, all those bolts are gone., Flat slab. Never depend on anyone else , always depend on yourself
Where do you get those highly flexible air lines you use for your pneumatic nailers/tools the last ones I purchased were from Sears 25' and 50' lengths 3/8" and 1/4" and have been unable to find highly flexible air lines since in the Miami area. Ray
That access is terrible, got to figure that on to quote. Well done to the driver. Oh.... and you using my "cool beans"now? 😂😂 i love the i joists, been using for many years now. Had some clients who were great and easy going then as time gos ny their demands just get rediculous. Alwaus happy to say goodbye to those ones. Nice job guy. 👍 🇦🇺
@@AwesomeFramers why is there a price if it’s not an ad. 😂. That’s def an ad. And it lets me know that you get commission. I’m wondering why it’s $729? Is it a special design or something.
@@The_Red_Off_Road RUclips puts up links to products used in the video. If someone buys it, I get a small commission. Imagine small, the divide by 1000. The reason I use this saw is because gang cutting 2x12's as shown on other videos here over the last 4 years, and over the last 20 in real life, I've found the bigger motor does a better job. Plus we often cut down trees on our projects and firewood. You can check the Lakeshore Playlist here for that info.
After working for both sides of the drawing trade, Arch and sub-contractors (shop drawings) for decades, the drawing sets that make me shake my head are the ones that have more than one set of grid systems and no common work point to tie them together. Also recently I had a set come through the office for a multi-residential building with a nicely laid out grid system and not a single architectural dimension snapped to them. One can only assume that perhaps the general contractor has been given access to a live set of files to do as he pleases. Second in line are detail drawings of the same location where the engineer shows an assembly and the architect shows something all together different. Coordination seems to be a lost skill lately.
just looking at those foundation heights, it looks like that whole project before you got involved was a mess, let alone putting all the dimensions on the plan
The reason I-joists are more efficient is because bending loads put stress at the top and bottom of a beam, and it's a lot more stress than the transverse shear stress caused by the load. So top and bottom is where you want the bulk of the material in a beam.
Can you do an updated Zip R sheathing video? Not sure to switch 2x4 exterior framing or stay with 2x6 and custom order door jambs and widen the foundation an inch.
Probably not anytime soon. You don't need to widen the foundation 1". Did you watch this video? ruclips.net/video/t-JihBdn77U/видео.htmlfeature=shared Its important when looking at exterior insulation to consider what climate zone you are in. There are ratios involved in CI and wall depth/cavity insulation thickness. I would definitely ask someone who understand. Try my brother www.youtube.com/@PioneerBuildersInc
The reason for the 3x is the tight nailing pattern. I wouldn't spend the money on 3x and lower the amount of insulation in the wall unless required by the engineer.
@@AwesomeFramers I plan on being the one to make pizzas on the job site. Bring cookies. And I’ve already told our builder that sometimes I need to be told, “ knock it off, I’ve got this”. And I told him I will not get mad when not if you say this to me. And lunches, tacos, burritos, for job site. Wanna come frame in Colorado!
Do you have the engineer oversize the depth of the TJIs a bit to reduce bounce? I’m considering using L/480 for the joist depth on my house rather than the standard L/360 (as recommended by Steven Baczek), but since you’re hammering on architects in this episode 😂, I wanted to get your take from the perspective of an expert framer. Thanks.
There are a few ways to reduce vibration. 1) deeper joists 2) increase the stiffness of the joists by going up a series 3) reduce the spacing. Ask the designer. All the I Joist manufacturers use software that will analyze the vibration and make suggestions.
Through almost 3 decades of providing a residential architectural design service, I have learned that communication is key. But to also strive to keep myself aware of what builders will follow and what they won't, and to always offer to meet and discuss the architectural intent. As we are continuing full-speed-ahead into the bureaucratic nature and overburden of code regulations and restrictions, things are simply going to continue to get more tense between all entities involved. I have begun to 3D model various portions of a project design to take into account these overlaps of structural design and typical or common framing methods, to strive to take all into account while the project is in digital development. Hopefully as time proceeds forward, the architectural and contractor spectrum of individuals involved can find some common interests in addressing things for a shared goal of quality for our clients who are providing for our lives.
lol, gotta love fungineers and smartchitects sometimes. Just give me all the important dimensions with the etch a sketch, I'm a dumb framer I can't add up 13 different numbers to get my measurement. Sometimes you think you're mentally deficient too. I've had the odd plan where the numbers don't add up and I assume I'm just making a stupid mistake somewhere and waste an hour quintuple checking my math before realizing that for once I'm not the dumb one.
It does make you really appreciate when you get to work with architects who actually understand how the people building the project think and make the plans, and the design, something that is just easier to work with and build.
surely more concrete instead of those short pony walls would have been cheaper and easier?
Why only 57 views? Cmon crew. This is gold Jerry. Gold!
@@daviddorge1559 this isn't public yet
I wanna see who gets the Gold comment reference
@@A.I.T.F Right? Banya for the win!
@@A.I.T.F I got it. I got it lol
….he’d probably get more views if he didn’t spend so much time bitchin and whining. Maybe working a little more.
I’m an architect and a contractor and I typically design and build most of my projects. Between all the nonsense information the city needs on the plans and what gets used in the field is a far cry. You can’t plan for everything and even I still make mistakes on my own plans . Contractors love to complain though 🙄
I once had a conversation with a very wise, capable, and experienced contractor who told me that people often complain about architects and engineers, even though they usually get 99.999% of their work correct. He admitted that his own track record, and that of his peers, was rarely that good. He emphasized the importance of a good contractor checking the drawings and asking for additional information before starting work with saws and hammers.
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@@gregorymacneil2836Agreed. We are a team; we need each other!
@@gregorymacneil2836 this is correct. The best contractors are people with engineering and architectural backgrounds that get into contracting
Well said. In my area “contractors” get their work by word of mouth. Small towns are the worst because the same mediocre builder gets the jobs because people know who he is. And only because of that. I worked for a guy that is the local “youth leader” at the biggest church in the county. He’s extremely overweight and lazy. I wouldn’t pay him to build a doghouse.
He keeps his business because Mississippi is really light on codes and regs. He wouldn’t last a month in a place like Houston or Nashville. I feel bad for the people that give him money to screw up their house.
Love your Channel , 30 + carpenter. Hoping no one has to deal with this as I know I did many times.
Yeah. Our buggest cost was the time professional framets medsed up. The crew leader knew best. ($$$). Thank you. Stay safe.
I wonder if any of those missing dimension would create an over-constraint situation. Obviously that's still not an excuse to place a driven dimension.
@@JBLewis over-constraint?
@@AwesomeFramers In Fusion360, at least, but I suppose in any parametric CAD, if one tries to put too many dimensions on a drawing, you'll get an "over constraint" warning. A simple example would be drawing a rectangle, specifying that the corners are right angles, and then if you to dimension both long edges, the second will make the drawing "over constrained". The last version of AutoCAD I worked with was v12 back around the mid 90s, but I've been learning Fusion360 for the last few years.
you simply add it as a reference dimension. there's nothing stopping the architect from putting more than bare minimum.
@@13fullnelson I don't disagree with you!
What’s good on paper isn’t always practical in reality
When are there going to be framers on the East Coast like you?
That lift is SICK with the pivot at the end of rhe boom. Respect from Massachusetts ✌🏻⛈️🔨🪚⛈️
Every time I see that pivot, I think "Kyle Stumpenhorst could use that on his telehandler!"
The place I work has been doing building upgrades and renovations in the last couple years - and the architect is always a pain in the butt. From the first meeting we have, we tell him WE NEED A TELCOM CLOSET IN THE NEW SECTION. It isn't. MAYBE by the time construction starts he's added it. But usually cable drops are missing. Power is too far away. It's annoying.
Is there any benefit in putting the nails through at an angle into the LVL of the flange of the I-Joist?
I can't remember if that is how its shown in the literature. I'd say do it the way they show it for your brand of literature, but I would think it doesn't matter. They aren't there for uplift, but to keep them in place laterally.
Not to question your abilities, but how did you make sure the joists were plumb and on layout when you nailed them off?
Is it, that the bottom surface of the LVL part is so reliably dead flat, that they plumb themselves automagically when they get 1 nail on each side or is eyeballing good enough?
I'm asking because I didn't see you marking layout on top of the rim joist.
When I nail the top plate on a short wall like this, still pull layout on the top. Then we do again on the top of the plates for the joists.
Yeap you got the ima naileverything itis .let someone else use the nail gun dude your all about teaching .telling someone how to do or u know something.let them nail it.
Complains about authority, works a "Let's go Brandon" into the mix and goes on about the news media...
The other framer's name is Brandon. I did NOT work a "let's go Brandon" in there as a reference. The joke about the media is a joke. Where was the complaint about authority? A complaint about the lack of quality is not the same thing. You hearing this through the filter of your own bias.
I personally think any architects or engineers should be required to have 2-3 years of working in the field after their education before they can get their certifications. Some are really good, but not enough of them.
I don't disagree. In schoole they also made us learn basic drawing. Always good to see both sides.
They do have to work under a licensed architect or engineer for several years before they get their PE. While it's not required to be in the field, they are frequently the ones who go to the field, especially if the municipal inspectors aren't able competent for evaluating the construction (typically commercial), or to approve field deviations from the plan. So, they should have since field experience, but not necessarily in the type of construction they do when they first started.
@@AwesomeFramershey dad from New York
After completing their degree, graduate architects undergo a 3-4 year internship under the direct supervision of a licensed architect. During this period, they must gain experience working on various types and sizes of projects. The internship is based on logged hours and requires certification from a licensed and supervising architect. After successfully completing the internship, they must pass national examinations, which are known to be quite challenging. It’s not common to encounter architects who are under the age of 28. Architects must complete mandatory continuing education each year in order to maintain their license.
A licensed architect's primary responsibility is to protect the public. Most issues between architects and clients are contractual in nature. Many clients shop for the lowest price, which is obviously a mistake in any marketplace.
A very wise, capable and experienced contractor once told me that everyone likes to complain about architects and engineers even though they typically get 99.999% of their work correct. He freely admitted that his track record and that of his peers were rarely that good. A good contractor checks the drawings and asks for additional information before they pull out a saw and hammer.
After completing their degree, graduate architects undergo a 3-4 year internship under the direct supervision of a licensed architect. During this period, they must gain experience working on various types and sizes of projects. The internship is based on logged hours and requires certification from a licensed and supervising architect. After successfully completing the internship, they must pass national examinations, which are known to be quite challenging. It’s not common to encounter architects who are under the age of 28. Architects must complete mandatory continuing education each year in order to maintain their license.
A licensed architect's primary responsibility is to protect the public. Most issues between architects and clients are contractual in nature. Many clients shop for the lowest price, which is obviously a mistake in any marketplace.
A very wise, capable and experienced contractor once told me that everyone likes to complain about architects and engineers even though they typically get 99.999% of their work correct. He freely admitted that his track record and that of his peers were rarely that good. A good contractor checks the drawings and asks for additional information before they pull out a saw and hammer.
6:17 Was that a Pterodactylus antiquus flying overhead?
exactly 😁
Scary 😮
Every Framer I’ve EVER MEET can do the Job of Every Architecture or Engineer. There not Needed over paid on paper! But couldn’t nail a board to a board if there life depended on it! Now a stapler they can work well! Lmao
When I was a young apprentice working for my uncle he was building an addition designed by a nationally known architect for a best selling author. The plans had a schedule of window sizes, the plan view showed the location of each window, but the elevations showed no dimensions how far above the floor to place the windows. Uncle Art had sat with the plans one evening scaling those dimensions. The day after we had framed and sheathed what would become the new front entrance to the house the the homeowner’s wife came out and said she didn’t think the window openings flanking the front door looked right. The architect was called and he showed up around noon and proclaimed the window rough openings to be correct.
I will never understand leaving a dirt floor crawlspace...
It gets a vapor retarder
Where I live almost every crawl space is dirt... but 6'+ tall so plenty easy
Why not? Thousands of houses like that around here like that.... Even without good drainage they are lasting 100+ years without major issues
Did you happen to mention telehandlers when you met up with the Perkins Bros? I can't believe they don't rent/own one for their builds, ESPECIALLY after seeing everything you can do with yours.
They are old school. Maybe I should pitch showing up driving a telehandler up the road 🙂
I tried to have this conversation with an older and now retired builder about how blueprints require so much work at the job site and there has to be a better way. Your comment about them neglecting useful measurements because they can click a mouse twice and get it. What prevents the builder from having that access at the job site? Digital blue prints that is. Your decades of experience help show problem solving and working on the fly but that’s a steep learning curve and when you are seeing million dollar+ houses framed by hacks then what more proof do you need that there is an issue?
Why should the framer invest in that to get measurements that should have been on the plans?
@@AwesomeFramers I would love to see a video showing you laying out with a set of blue prints on site and adding the useful measurements to the blue prints and naming them. Ps I don’t think framers should have to invest to get that info but if you did have a laptop or tablet with the plans on them could you get relevant info to speed up your job?
With that orange jacket you need to change kyles name to kenny
And I'm over here about to pay to purchase chief architect and a good laptop to start doing my own drawings to avoid headaches
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I use Sketchup to visualize
@AwesomeFramers i looked into sketchup, only reason I'm not doing it is i think Chief will be better with details. But who knows. I've only hand drawn my stuff. i don't know anything about this stuff.😂 I believe in crash course learning.
@@davidt8145 I think you are right. SU is good for 3D and for me very basic. I'm not good with it
@@davidt8145 well... SU is free...
Just wow, how do I share with all what I did? I can not post pics of similar that get deleted. Did 23 feet in a 9 inch steel beam destroying a center hall colonial. You really need to think about mixing “steel” with wood. Jump farther with composite lumber with the help of steel.
If you do just composite lumber your like a “co-axe” speaker,,, if you add “steel” to the mix, it is like adding a subwoofer. And doing massive spans, it’s like mixing commercial with residential. You can go farther, and f the architect.
Pro tip with the repeat back the number.
I always do it that way, no response, no cut 😂
90% of architects are a waste of time and money. Hire a good draftsmen if you can’t find a good architect.
I draw plans. I run a string of dimensions that start at the outside corner, go to the center of the first opening, then align with the near edge of the first wall, the center of the next opening, the near edge of the next wall, etc., all the way until the far side of the building. I go back and run a second string that only shows wall locations, NO openings. I finish that side of the building with a single dimension that shows the overall, outside to outside.
If there are walls in the interior that are not located by the exterior dimension strings, I run as many interior strings as required.
What I described is supposed to be standard, but I have seen a lot of plans that do not do it that way.
One thing I do that is not standard, I'll draw one dimension to some wall that's out in the middle. You are supposed to give two dimensions, one on each side of the wall. But by the time you are dimensioning the center area, you already have a crowded drawing and muddying it up any further with a redundant dimension seems to cause more problems than it solves.
One other thing that I do is put the dimensions on a floor plan that is ONLY there for dimensions. No notes, no door or window sizes, nothing but dimensions so a person has a decent chance of reading them. That means the framer has to refer to two sheets to get dimensions AND determine nominal opening sizes, but I think that being able to read the dimensions clearly is more important. I haven't heard any complaints from framers, but I'd be interested to hear feedback.
One thing to add if you haven't already is a window/door schedule with R/O (rough-openings) for the manufacturer to reference. One less thing for the site crews to confirm in the field. We also add the load points from above so the support can be built with the walls. Not necessary for experienced framers but I would like to think it saves time backframing. Cheers!
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I don't spec door or window brands, I just write the nominal size and type in place on the drawing. I have done door and window schedules for architects I've worked for, but even they seem to be backing away from them for residential jobs. They add a lot of extra work, and clients have a tendency to change their mind about products between the time the plans are drawn, and the house gets built. That's why I leave the selection of door and window brands and models to the owner. The contractor can sway them towards the type they prefer if they like.
As for posts and columns, they are called out on the framing plan.
I didnt even know you needed to go to college to pound nails.
I bet it does feel nice under foot though.. cushy
Yet another brilliant video thanks guys😊 O Tim whats the out music ? Shazam couldn’t find it
I pay for Soundstripe to use on RUclips videos. This music may not be available outside of that, I'm not sure.
Love how you use the forklift to hand off materials to the boom lift in order to overcome that stupid pinch point in the driveway. Intelligent use of equipment!
00:29:36 what😂
I find architects waste a bunch of time not providing dimensions Toni bought a copy of autocad. Then I just send them an email of entry if I need to dimension as a CYA.
On a side note, what are we building in this homes back yard?
This is an ADU for the grandparents.
No sill packing? Norwegian code require sill packing between any wood and concrete - even treated wood
No need for the foam here by code when using treated wood.
I’ve worked with open web trusses and can see the advantage for plumbers, HVAC and electricians. They don’t have to cut holes in the I joists to route pipes, ducting etc. Which do you prefer? Are open trusses as strong as I joists? My bathroom floor was framed with I joists (over a garage) that were doubled up for a long span of like 25’ at least, 14” OC. (no lally column). There was significant movement in the floor and you could feel it. On a future build, I’m curious if open trusses would be better.
I would recommend you get pricing for both I Joists and floor trusses. I find there is more noticeable vibration with open web and for us the cost was much higher.
5:12 Let's go Brandon 😅😅😅
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Off topic but I want to show my daughter your astrophotography but I can't find the right video. Does anyone remember which one it was?
The one before this or instagram.com/awesomeframers/ instagram.com/sonicscrewdriver/
Ur not awesome unless you swing a 32oz framing hammer. :)
So true, for the 3 months until you need shoulder surgery 😄
A draftsman should be all most people need. They can provide plans at a fraction of the cost unless you are in an area that requires stamped and sealed drawings.
I agree. In all the years our company has been in business, we've used draftsman. We were handed this job with the permit already pulled. I think we could have saved this client 100k if we'd been involved earlier.
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Actually you wasted the architects time. Terrible framer
🤣🤣🤣 can't argue with that logic.
To the king of logistics, it is a beautiful handshake to see delivery, that said,,,,. If the anchor rods are that bad thenjust cut them all off and do masonry bolts to same code.
It is less time in your head thinking about it, when you know the solution is in the truck, solved in less than 30 minutes. ‘O” in that dustless thing in SDS, outside, ok, I’ll buy that for 30 seconds,, give me the 9 inch 60 volt, grinder, i have some short cutting to do.
Yes it is a DeWalt 6 inch grinder in Flex 60 volt custom built tool. Can also do 9 inch diamond blades. Give me 5 minutes,,, all those bolts are gone., Flat slab.
Never depend on anyone else , always depend on yourself
THEY ARE USELESS!!!!!
Where do you get those highly flexible air lines you use for your pneumatic nailers/tools the last ones I purchased were from Sears 25' and 50' lengths 3/8" and 1/4" and have been unable to find highly flexible air lines since in the Miami area. Ray
It's not just the architects. The building departments should make it mandatory to have demensions to all walls.
That access is terrible, got to figure that on to quote. Well done to the driver. Oh.... and you using my "cool beans"now? 😂😂 i love the i joists, been using for many years now. Had some clients who were great and easy going then as time gos ny their demands just get rediculous. Alwaus happy to say goodbye to those ones. Nice job guy. 👍 🇦🇺
What’s so special about the chainsaw that is being advertised? 729$ seems a bit, expensive.
Not an ad, just showing the one used.
@@AwesomeFramers why is there a price if it’s not an ad. 😂. That’s def an ad. And it lets me know that you get commission.
I’m wondering why it’s $729? Is it a special design or something.
@@The_Red_Off_Road RUclips puts up links to products used in the video. If someone buys it, I get a small commission. Imagine small, the divide by 1000.
The reason I use this saw is because gang cutting 2x12's as shown on other videos here over the last 4 years, and over the last 20 in real life, I've found the bigger motor does a better job. Plus we often cut down trees on our projects and firewood. You can check the Lakeshore Playlist here for that info.
After working for both sides of the drawing trade, Arch and sub-contractors (shop drawings) for decades, the drawing sets that make me shake my head are the ones that have more than one set of grid systems and no common work point to tie them together. Also recently I had a set come through the office for a multi-residential building with a nicely laid out grid system and not a single architectural dimension snapped to them. One can only assume that perhaps the general contractor has been given access to a live set of files to do as he pleases.
Second in line are detail drawings of the same location where the engineer shows an assembly and the architect shows something all together different. Coordination seems to be a lost skill lately.
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New Castle. Western slopes peaches will be missed
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just looking at those foundation heights, it looks like that whole project before you got involved was a mess, let alone putting all the dimensions on the plan
That looks like one of those cuss words. . work. 🤣
Like all your videos, it is very educational.
Where do you source 3x8 dressed Douglas fir lumber?
You wear pajamas to work?
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Of the hundreds of houses I framed, only ran across one good architect.
The fat ones are the worst.
Top of the morning to ya Tim or as the Irish say top of the morning to ya lad. Is that a Norwest greeting ?
The reason I-joists are more efficient is because bending loads put stress at the top and bottom of a beam, and it's a lot more stress than the transverse shear stress caused by the load. So top and bottom is where you want the bulk of the material in a beam.
Did i miss why there are two gaps in the i joist layout?
Did i just see hold downs like every 16 inches"
No, those are anchor bolts
@AwesomeFramers as soon as I typed it I knew what I had done... lot of anchor bolts high seismic area?
Love this channel!!
Is your supplier arrow lumber?
the forklift pushed that wall a hair
Can you do an updated Zip R sheathing video? Not sure to switch 2x4 exterior framing or stay with 2x6 and custom order door jambs and widen the foundation an inch.
Probably not anytime soon. You don't need to widen the foundation 1". Did you watch this video? ruclips.net/video/t-JihBdn77U/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Its important when looking at exterior insulation to consider what climate zone you are in. There are ratios involved in CI and wall depth/cavity insulation thickness. I would definitely ask someone who understand. Try my brother www.youtube.com/@PioneerBuildersInc
What drone do you use? I looked almost everywhere and can’t find it. Please forgive an old man with bad memory
Mavic 3
Awesome FO SHOWA!!!!!
I like that 3x on panel edges plan. I was thinking about doing all 3x on my next project but only doing it on panel edges is smarter.
The reason for the 3x is the tight nailing pattern. I wouldn't spend the money on 3x and lower the amount of insulation in the wall unless required by the engineer.
That is one tight neighborhood I couldn’t imagine having a house in my backyard lol
Its an ADU for the grandparents
Kyle pulling 6 inches of fresh chalk. Genius!
Old but useful trick
"Like the American news media..." Lmaooo
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Those things never hurt.
@@AwesomeFramers I plan on being the one to make pizzas on the job site. Bring cookies. And I’ve already told our builder that sometimes I need to be told, “ knock it off, I’ve got this”. And I told him I will not get mad when not if you say this to me. And lunches, tacos, burritos, for job site. Wanna come frame in Colorado!
Do you have the engineer oversize the depth of the TJIs a bit to reduce bounce? I’m considering using L/480 for the joist depth on my house rather than the standard L/360 (as recommended by Steven Baczek), but since you’re hammering on architects in this episode 😂, I wanted to get your take from the perspective of an expert framer. Thanks.
There are a few ways to reduce vibration. 1) deeper joists 2) increase the stiffness of the joists by going up a series 3) reduce the spacing. Ask the designer. All the I Joist manufacturers use software that will analyze the vibration and make suggestions.
@@AwesomeFramers more bridging, too.
What does ADU stand for?
Accessory Dwelling Unit
@@AwesomeFramers Thanks. I thought it might stand for "Awful Dirty Underwear".
Oh look, more anti-intellectualism broad strokes from some real “gems of humanity”. 😂😂😂
At 7:00, I'm hearing Waylon Jennings sing the Dukes of Hazard theme in the background.
14:39 😂😂😂
Just curious, why do you work a circular saw up-and-down when you cut
Old habit. Often material will bind and chopping in prevents that.