In the UK we can only buy the new BMW M3 and M4 as their Competition variants which means with an 8spd Auto gearbox, but in other markets there's also the Non-Competition with a manual. Where better to find out what it's like than for a quick lap at the Nurburgring!
i disagree - automatic is also "fun" on the track, just a different kind of fun. i'd say if you buy a sportscar mainly for the road then go manual, if you buy it mainly for trackuse get the auto (if its double clutch).
To no honest, manuals are slightly overrated nowadays. Yes, they are getting rarer in performance cars, people say they’re more fun, but you’re driving on the highway / motorway 90% of the time in your car, where a manual would be troublesome. I think the manual hype is more of people wanting to fit in with other petrolheads and sticking to the “petrolheads rules”.
@@th3orist i think when you're looking to have fun you want the max engagement which the manual provides, except when you're after laptimes then i guess auto atw
@@Nur__ I'm not saying you are wrong, but with these cars I think the manual just doesn't fit anymore. noise insulation and weight are both so much on this car, it feels stale with the manual IMO. I personally think the added power and being able to shift mid corner would be more exciting and also better for doing some skids.
@@yungboicontigo9278 I do enjoy them, i had 3 of them, e46, e90 and now f30. All brilliant to drive and didn't had anything significant to repair, also done 200 k + km on all of them.
ikrrr i was jus bout to comment bout that ..shmee thought the guy was gonna move and actually braced for a second but that megane moved last sec but yeah!
This Car is the Ultimate M car the kidney grill for me has given the car even more personality ... Would have bought it straight away had I had the cash
Everyone waxes poetic about manual gear boxes and I learned on them and enjoy them as well! But wait til you get older w replaced knees, etc! You’ll be VERY thankful for auto! 😎😎😎
Manual transmission cars are fun, this will test your driver skills on how will you be able to use certain techniques like heel and toeing and how will you mix and match the clutch, brake and throttle pedals.
Can we just appreciate the noise that car makes, a lot of cars sound good from on the inside while you drive but most you need to stand behind to really love, this thing sounds awesome from the drivers position
I do not like any BMW after the e46, but seeing a manual transmission on an m4 just made me watch this video from start to finish. props BMW for keeping the manuals alive.
It's good to see that Shmee is actually a great driver unlike alot of RUclips personalities. Someone who can push the car and do what it was made for instead of cruising around just talking about it.
I'm considering ordering a G82 M4 with a manual. I have had manuals since 1969 when I bought new Mercury Cougar to drive across the US from Sacramento, California. I've never owned an automatic since, and currently have a 2015 F82 M4 with a manual. I guess I'm old school, but then I'm 75 so I and retired, so it figures I would be.
*BRO!* 1. LOOK AT YOUR DRIVING! Massively improved! 2. Driving that looks FUN AF! I've never wanted to try to learn how to drive there as much. That's a far far dream though. 😅
Great video. I got out last year but doesn’t look like I will be able this year. Nice to watch someone else enjoying it so that’s the next best thing I guess.
I've watched your videos every now and then for a very long time. But I think all these laps take the channel to another level. It's also fun to see how your driving is improving. I guess the Nordschleife is the perfect track for youtube. The content' wouldn't be the same with a shorter track! Great work Tim! 👍
That was the most intense driving I’ve watched in a long time and the angles were what made it work so well. Well done driving and keeping out of the other cars. I puckered my ass a few times. Best one of your vids yet for me and I’ve watched many. Sounds just like my 2020 M4 from inside so I can’t imagine putting my car on the Ring.
There is truly nothing better then ending a long day with a great shmee video, Thank you a lot Tim for making every night a little bit better for all of us 🙏❤️
Fantastic driving. Also, I am shocked you are talking so much while driving. I couldn't handle it while at a track like that but I guess that shows your experience out there. Bravo!
That was awesome Shmee! Man, us Americans are missing out! I would love to have something like the Nurbergring in my area 😆 That looks like so much fun! Great video 👍🔥
The manual in this g8X series is the best. im getting me second now went from g80 manual to g82 manual. Just put a short shift kit on it and its shifts as good as a gt3. love this platform!! This atmosferic linear engine is perfect for the manual!
there were already a few non-competition m3s and m4s which were dynoed and they tend to output way more than the 480hp. Usually, even the non-competition ones do above 500hp
For the track nothing is faster than the auto but for most people that like to have a connection with their car like only a manual can give the manual is definitely the way to go. Most people that cry about manuals going away buy autos so what are they crying about? And most don’t track their cars and let’s face it, the milliseconds or even seconds in a race that the auto has over the manual, who cares unless big money is on the line and those aren’t daily driver aspects for most people. Tim tore up that track and made the Bugatti driver that took Misha around look like a Putz. M4 smoked the Bugatti time more than likely because the driver was scared he would wreck and ruin car sales...lolol Well done TrackMasterSchmee150 or 250...lol
Tim: Manuals give you the connection to your car that you don't get with autos...you don't have that purity, old school engaging feel Also Tim: We've got the gear shift setting which is auto-rev matching, we've got that on Oh and Tim can actually drive!! Nice
I just saw the new 4 series, and in the flesh, it works better than in video where the car looks massive, but the hips just don't work for me. The previous 4 series on the road, with the flared fenders, has such a presence, with a very planted stance. The m steering wheel looks so so thick. Tims abilities are now more that acceptable, watching hip lap the ring is really cool
My ideal specification if I had the money . The only diference between this and the one I would have is mine would be blue and have comfort seat. Like I said if I had the money. One can dream 😉
Mine would be something dark (maybe satin black or gray). Still struggling with that front facia & why I still have my M2C (currently shopping for a CS). It'll be interesting to see what the 2023 M2 looks like. Cuz I love how the current M2 looks.
There’s nothing like driving a legit gated manual....I learned to drive manual in an early ‘70’s Ford pickup with “3 on the tree”....I’ve driven everything from that to a 13-speed Peterbilt cab and about everything in between....I still have my ‘04 Saturn Vue SUV with a 5-speed just because it’s a stick....anyways great content as always and CHEERS from across the pond!!
Hi Tim, that was a fun ride! If anyone doubted Shmee can properly drive performance cars, just check out this video. I didn't expect it to be quite so quick, I wonder if it is a little lighter then the M3 comp? The manual is the biz especially with the auto-blip. That small erection in the seats is flawed though ;)) Cheers!
Cool to see Misha and the guys in the background. 👍 A couple of those passes looked a little iffy, not sure they saw you coming. 😬 I agree, autos are faster on the track, manuals are fun and engaging! 😀
For me, I would go with sliding doors on family cars. In fact, that’s why I’d choose an MPV for a family car over an 7-seater SUV. You still get a decent raised driving position, they’re very practical, have so many more useful features in terms of cubbyholes and storage bins, and the sliding doors mean tight parking spaces are no problem.
"It is a significant step up from the previous m3", gets gapped from a 15 year old bmw with 300hp less thru wippermann ,brünnchen till the end. And shmee is a good driver, that just shows that the new cars are no faster in the corners than the older ones and that 98% of drivers can't even put them to use.
E36 is the common king of the ring. A well built example that is stripped out with semis and suspension is very hard to beat with an experienced driver in it. A lot of supercar owners get sad when they do their first laps at the ring and realize they are much slower.
In the UK we can only buy the new BMW M3 and M4 as their Competition variants which means with an 8spd Auto gearbox, but in other markets there's also the Non-Competition with a manual. Where better to find out what it's like than for a quick lap at the Nurburgring!
Does it start with a card? I drove a 2021 M440i a while ago that had no keys, just a card lol
So, you're telling me that BMW likely de-tuned the manual so the auto-box would be faster.
You gonna get the Giulia GTAm?
Will the M3 Touring be available with a manual? If so, that would jump to the top of my list of desirable wagons/estates.
100% prefer auto to manual 🚗💨
your laps are getting extremely entertaining as you get more and more comfortable on the ring. Good stuff Tim!
I never thought I’d see blarg comment on a shmee video
Goonns ?
Dude, seriously. When did Tim become such a beast?
just felt that 10:07 when passing the Renault，the Renault didn‘t move right which makes that moment a little bit scary
I'd av shat ma sen!!!!
Tight pass! Tim was really feeling the M4.
Unpopular opinion: the engine noise through the speakers actually makes for better RUclips sound. There, I said it!
Tim's driving is actually quite excellent.
Yes thank you
@@trashboat8530 traaash boooaat, woooooooooo
Tim: ”public road so its not a race”
*goes full throttle the whole track*😂
Its kind of like the autobahn but with corners, so nothing wrong with that :D
@@JoDON111 facs
Except it doesn’t go anywhere
@@doughnuts5364 However, you do have fun while driving
@@JoDON111 yep that’s why i respect tim, because he isn’t scared to drive full throttle even if it’s not his car😁
Fact: The only time Shmee has driven a car in anger was when he was looking for a charging port for his Taycan :3
Yep, it’s safe to say you can certainly drive the ring very well and very fast now! Looking forward to more! 👍
Automat is faster.
Manual is fun.
End of debate
i disagree - automatic is also "fun" on the track, just a different kind of fun.
i'd say if you buy a sportscar mainly for the road then go manual, if you buy it mainly for trackuse get the auto (if its double clutch).
To no honest, manuals are slightly overrated nowadays. Yes, they are getting rarer in performance cars, people say they’re more fun, but you’re driving on the highway / motorway 90% of the time in your car, where a manual would be troublesome. I think the manual hype is more of people wanting to fit in with other petrolheads and sticking to the “petrolheads rules”.
@@th3orist dude, it's just a matter of different people has a different idea of what fun is anyway
@@th3orist i think when you're looking to have fun you want the max engagement which the manual provides, except when you're after laptimes then i guess auto atw
@@Nur__ I'm not saying you are wrong, but with these cars I think the manual just doesn't fit anymore. noise insulation and weight are both so much on this car, it feels stale with the manual IMO. I personally think the added power and being able to shift mid corner would be more exciting and also better for doing some skids.
That sky was incredible! Beautyfull blue horizon and magestic white clouds. Perfect backdrop.
The M4 is a fun car. I’m more of a fan of the M5 and the M3.
@@yungboicontigo9278 boring 😂😂😂
@@yungboicontigo9278 bmw childish
@@yungboicontigo9278 Nobody cares.
@@yungboicontigo9278 I do enjoy them, i had 3 of them, e46, e90 and now f30. All brilliant to drive and didn't had anything significant to repair, also done 200 k + km on all of them.
@@yungboicontigo9278 Nice job cherry-picking the most unreliable of the bunch LOL
I have to say, the turn by turn commentary while driving the manual was impressive, Tim.
2:13 “but this thing between your legs, it’s VERY VERY VERY odd” - Shmee 2021
Someone needs to make a t-shirt with this
Not gonna lie, I got worried around 10:05. Moron in the black car definitely wasn’t paying attention.
ikrrr i was jus bout to comment bout that ..shmee thought the guy was gonna move and actually braced for a second but that megane moved last sec but yeah!
Anyone else love the new in car front facing camera angle?
Problem is he needs 1 less camera view. Watch smoking tire he has the perfect angles.
@@Chris-hw4mq true, we don't need to see his face so he should axe that
This Car is the Ultimate M car the kidney grill for me has given the car even more personality ... Would have bought it straight away had I had the cash
Fair point actually
Raza... Just buy it we know u have the cash ....
@@mncedisiluhlanga2024 hahaha ... Nice joke but I am just a student looking for a job so it's a far dream for me now atleast
The nurburgring content is my favorite 🔥
Everyone waxes poetic about manual gear boxes and I learned on them and enjoy them as well! But wait til you get older w replaced knees, etc! You’ll be VERY thankful for auto! 😎😎😎
Agree 100%. Well said MJ.
@@BMW7series251 thank you👍
Replace your knees so you have fresh ones for the clutch!
@@travis3810 hahaha
Shmee is really good at driving/doing Nurburgring commentary at the same time now after all those previous laps
Very candid evaluation of the manuel gear change. I enjoy manuel shifting, but more than likely not on the track any longer. Thanks, Tim.
Manual transmission cars are fun, this will test your driver skills on how will you be able to use certain techniques like heel and toeing and how will you mix and match the clutch, brake and throttle pedals.
your track driving id improving Tim. great drive
Can we just appreciate the noise that car makes, a lot of cars sound good from on the inside while you drive but most you need to stand behind to really love, this thing sounds awesome from the drivers position
Dunno if its your ears or mine but to me that thing sounds like a muffled didgeridoo
@@rinirax I personally liked the sound, there are worse sounding cars
@@TVCHLORD Oh yea forgot a lot of cars have that now :(
I do not like any BMW after the e46, but seeing a manual transmission on an m4 just made me watch this video from start to finish. props BMW for keeping the manuals alive.
It's good to see that Shmee is actually a great driver unlike alot of RUclips personalities. Someone who can push the car and do what it was made for instead of cruising around just talking about it.
I'm considering ordering a G82 M4 with a manual. I have had manuals since 1969 when I bought new Mercury Cougar to drive across the US from Sacramento, California. I've never owned an automatic since, and currently have a 2015 F82 M4 with a manual. I guess I'm old school, but then I'm 75 so I and retired, so it figures I would be.
I don’t get how he can talk and still drive fast I wouldn’t be able to say a word
Thank you for the hard work to entertain us with awesome daily video Tim..
Very nice driving. You can see the training
*BRO!*
1. LOOK AT YOUR DRIVING! Massively improved!
2. Driving that looks FUN AF! I've never wanted to try to learn how to drive there as much. That's a far far dream though. 😅
Great drive,enjoyed watching this,keep up the good work
Great video. I got out last year but doesn’t look like I will be able this year.
Nice to watch someone else enjoying it so that’s the next best thing I guess.
Can't wait to buy the Touring version in 3years
I've watched your videos every now and then for a very long time. But I think all these laps take the channel to another level. It's also fun to see how your driving is improving. I guess the Nordschleife is the perfect track for youtube. The content' wouldn't be the same with a shorter track! Great work Tim! 👍
These G80 M3/4s don't really get recognition they deserve. Their performances are astonishing for performance sedans!!!!
That was the most intense driving I’ve watched in a long time and the angles were what made it work so well. Well done driving and keeping out of the other cars. I puckered my ass a few times. Best one of your vids yet for me and I’ve watched many. Sounds just like my 2020 M4 from inside so I can’t imagine putting my car on the Ring.
Very helpful. The M3 M4 are best in class.
It's impressive how fast Shmee has gotten around the ring, faster than many many others out there!
There is truly nothing better then ending a long day with a great shmee video, Thank you a lot Tim for making every night a little bit better for all of us 🙏❤️
Fantastic driving. Also, I am shocked you are talking so much while driving. I couldn't handle it while at a track like that but I guess that shows your experience out there. Bravo!
So excited for the near future. Gt black shmuseum. Love the videos keep up the great work
Two really exciting things to come to the channel soon
Best shmee video I've watched in a long time. Love the commentary!!!
Bloody hell Schmee, some proper driving here, awesome to watch.
That was awesome Shmee! Man, us Americans are missing out! I would love to have something like the Nurbergring in my area 😆 That looks like so much fun! Great video 👍🔥
The manual in this g8X series is the best. im getting me second now went from g80 manual to g82 manual.
Just put a short shift kit on it and its shifts as good as a gt3. love this platform!!
This atmosferic linear engine is perfect for the manual!
That closing speed was impressive. That thing turns into a monster.
Tim 'Full Send' Shmee!
It’s so good to see you, at your happe place
It sure is! I love doing laps here
Wow, really impressed by your driving skills Mr Shmee
This is probably the most reckless I’ve ever seen Tim drive... and I’m all here for it!😂
Impressive driving, You have enough going on with driving the car on track let alone giving an ongoing commentary of thoughts and experience.
That grey car at the end (couldnt see at all what that was) was showing out for the camera. Dude was fast asf
Yes, yes. The track. Top work.
Old gen M4 ,the f82 was the best, looks and performance both were crazy
That was legitimately impressive driving, especially through traffic - well done! Hope to see you at Quail again this year. 👍🏾🏎
there were already a few non-competition m3s and m4s which were dynoed and they tend to output way more than the 480hp. Usually, even the non-competition ones do above 500hp
For the track nothing is faster than the auto but for most people that like to have a connection with their car like only a manual can give the manual is definitely the way to go. Most people that cry about manuals going away buy autos so what are they crying about? And most don’t track their cars and let’s face it, the milliseconds or even seconds in a race that the auto has over the manual, who cares unless big money is on the line and those aren’t daily driver aspects for most people. Tim tore up that track and made the Bugatti driver that took Misha around look like a Putz. M4 smoked the Bugatti time more than likely because the driver was scared he would wreck and ruin car sales...lolol Well done TrackMasterSchmee150 or 250...lol
Your a mad man Tim for driving the ring talking the whole time and giving a review on the car at the same time 😂🤣😂
Tim: Manuals give you the connection to your car that you don't get with autos...you don't have that purity, old school engaging feel
Also Tim: We've got the gear shift setting which is auto-rev matching, we've got that on
Oh and Tim can actually drive!! Nice
I just saw the new 4 series, and in the flesh, it works better than in video where the car looks massive, but the hips just don't work for me. The previous 4 series on the road, with the flared fenders, has such a presence, with a very planted stance. The m steering wheel looks so so thick. Tims abilities are now more that acceptable, watching hip lap the ring is really cool
At least you're going much faster than 200 kph now 😅
My ideal specification if I had the money . The only diference between this and the one I would have is mine would be blue and have comfort seat. Like I said if I had the money. One can dream 😉
Mine would be something dark (maybe satin black or gray). Still struggling with that front facia & why I still have my M2C (currently shopping for a CS). It'll be interesting to see what the 2023 M2 looks like. Cuz I love how the current M2 looks.
Excellent review and dsg is just the best for anyone to enjoy 😎
Its called the zf, the DSG is in VAG group cars
4K video please 🙏, amazing video !
This was so entertaining! Great driving Tim!!!
Looking very fast Shmee. Well done. Peace
Your the most polite racer ever , love the channel bro
Just nice to see this man having big fun in a nice car
Great info from you - particularly on the seats with MT . Thanks.
Great video. Wish you did not edit parts out! I actually appreciate the commentary you make on the corners and being off line etc! Great video
This video deserves a million views!!
Nah you drove like a mad man low key🤯 I like it💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Shmee is next level now. Doing the nurburgring while commentating on every cars paint colour
Manual for me .your lines round the ring are great by the way
Jesus Shmee.... I never knew you had balls of steel 😳 watching you drive like a mad man! 😈👍
11:00 “The Red car and the Blue car had a race!”
There’s nothing like driving a legit gated manual....I learned to drive manual in an early ‘70’s Ford pickup with “3 on the tree”....I’ve driven everything from that to a 13-speed Peterbilt cab and about everything in between....I still have my ‘04 Saturn Vue SUV with a 5-speed just because it’s a stick....anyways great content as always and CHEERS from across the pond!!
Hi Tim, that was a fun ride! If anyone doubted Shmee can properly drive performance cars, just check out this video. I didn't expect it to be quite so quick, I wonder if it is a little lighter then the M3 comp? The manual is the biz especially with the auto-blip. That small erection in the seats is flawed though ;)) Cheers!
One thing I will say is Tim is a very good driver!
Having some fun back in Germany eh, Tim? :)
For sure
I drove this car around Phillip Island race track, but auto version of course. Very impressive car, even gives you a drift rating!
Cool to see Misha and the guys in the background. 👍 A couple of those passes looked a little iffy, not sure they saw you coming. 😬 I agree, autos are faster on the track, manuals are fun and engaging! 😀
Beautiful M4
Anything is more fun with a manual 🙌
Cant wait to see You Do laps with the gt black and lambo sto
Shmee driving really good
Shmee, what trend in vehicles were you excited about but never made it to become widespread in the industry?
For me, I would go with sliding doors on family cars. In fact, that’s why I’d choose an MPV for a family car over an 7-seater SUV. You still get a decent raised driving position, they’re very practical, have so many more useful features in terms of cubbyholes and storage bins, and the sliding doors mean tight parking spaces are no problem.
"this thing between my legs feels very, very, very, very odd". Taking pout of context, this sounds very very very strange.
Tim. You’re a really good driver 🤝
Man, I like (love) your channel.. More on the nurburgring
A manual M3 remains a future dream Dad car of mine
This red color is so amazing, don't you think that it is more beautiful than the color that you chose for your M3??
It's nice, but the Isle of Man Green is the best for me on these cars
Very cool car!!
That looked like some fine driving 👌🏽
That thumbnail is awesome!
Amazing car!
"It is a significant step up from the previous m3", gets gapped from a 15 year old bmw with 300hp less thru wippermann ,brünnchen till the end. And shmee is a good driver, that just shows that the new cars are no faster in the corners than the older ones and that 98% of drivers can't even put them to use.
I wonder what mods he had, but yeah that was impressive on his part!
E36 is the common king of the ring. A well built example that is stripped out with semis and suspension is very hard to beat with an experienced driver in it. A lot of supercar owners get sad when they do their first laps at the ring and realize they are much slower.
I think UK Should get the 6-Speed Manual M4
It would be nice to at least have the option
I actually seen a g82 4 series last night was a m440i and I have to say they did well with seperating the grill with the number plate plinth :)
the stick shift is the same E36 M3 stick design. Nice.