Thankyou so much I was in such a state after paying for my tyres to be fitted then to discover a locking nut like this on my car and them wanting £55 to remove it! So turned to good old youtube and found your vid gave it a try and it worked! I'm so happy right now although I'm now having to pay fitting charges again to have my new tyre put on ,but still saved overall !! Thankyou!!
My advice is for everyone to remove and scrap your security nuts and replace them with a second hand wheel bolt While your at home and not stuck on the side of the road with no tools in the rain
security nuts and replace them with a second hand wheel bolt you not been to liverpool , i had all my wheels taken twice in 2 weeks , i think was the taxi driver who had the same car
Ive gone to every mechanic and tire shop and everyone said they cant get it off. 2011 jetta with spinnig locking nut. Im gonna have to pull out the dremel and bits and grind the sleeve off. Thanks for making this video
I have this same problem with a used car I recently bought. However, there's not enough clearance between the locking lug's outside diameter and the well it's in to get a grinding stone into to remove that collar. However, your (basically) brute force approach has given me some ideas. Thanks!
Diamond bits.... I faced off with one of these yesterday. Cut a slice in the facing to expose the slip ring, then drill it with drill bits, or a diamond rotary bit. The pain in the ass part is that you have to cut it in two places to get the ring out of there.
Same I have a different style on my Lexus ls400 wheels. I’m gonna grind two slots to put a socket into the slots so it’s covering as much as the lug as possible and take a cheater bar to crack it off
ive just knocked the spinning collars off 4x mcgard wheel locks with a hammer and screwdriver took 5 mins they are hard but brittle they smashed on the third smack with the hammer.
It's just off Amazon brand is goxawee I got it in the sale was about 45 UK pounds. It is pretty powerful and came with 170 bits so yeh I'm pretty happy with it for the price
Isnt the point of these lug nuts to delay & deter like any other lock instead of being unremoveable without key? Can imagine thieves not being interested in making a shit load of noise for 40 minutes. Great way to do it if the key is lost though, havent seen ur method before
yes it is the point of them, however my key was broken as also my wheels are not worth any money there standard kia wheels, id advise putting lock nuts back on if you have expensive wheels you dont want stealing
Hi Dremel are the best. You also can use the metal glutted mini cutters. One problem is stopping the spinner moving . Best wedge in with another screw driver. And use thin card to protect when. Dremel extension is thinner than the machine. Just done 4 in 2 hours. Irwin reverse bolts are great.
The spinning collar locks look like a good deterrent for the thief considering the length of time needed as well as the noise. Excellent video. Thanks! If anyone knows of a radius seat spinning collar lock let me know.....
Hi mate I need to do the same thing roughly. Should I buy a cheap mig welder or one with the electrode sticks. My lock screw is more sunken inwards,so not a lot of room around the lock nut. so don't know what i should buy.
Hi I wouldn't like to advise on welders I've never used one. U Can u try a drill and a thin pinch. Drill a hole between the collar and the nut and put the punch in and whack it till the collar splits then put the socket on to screw it of
Could not be done on my yesterday on my SLK Mercedes, access deep to the locking nut and no space for socket if was possible to remove spinning collar😢
I wonder how long or how hard it is to apply some anti seize grease to bolts when installing wheels on I’m currently struggling with a Mercedes that has deep bolt wells and some asshole who fitted my brakes must have just gunned them back on dry on my second lock key and now bolt is stripped I’m gonna attempt this then I’ll use an easy out if this fails and if that fails think I’ll be using my 12” petrol grinder to cut the alloy off, all this can be avoided if people just take time and use anti seize
I’ve drilled the collar off 2 sides had to break out with punch, tomorrow I’m going to belt a twist socket or socket on, I’ll also prob hit it with map gas to the hub.....
Update I got it out using a grip socket from toolstation had to grind it down to fit inside wheel well also I think the heat and penetration fluid helped over the course of 5 days 😂
I’m hoping this works on my 2009 Renault MEGANE because the inside of the wheel bolt is buggered and I’ve tried everything so I’m going to try it this weekend and hopefully I can get it off
Good job but not sure why you used a Torque wrench when you over tightened it several time. Once it clicked if Torque is set correctly you should stop.
Been searching for months for a good way to get my last collar bolt off my 2015 jeep cherokee and finally found this! I don't think I can do the grinding way, but comments gave me ideas for just getting the collar off... Let's hope this works today as I need to get grinding brakes fixed asap
Diamond dremel bits, a few regular tiny drill bits, and a lot of patience. The one I had to deal with was a jeep, had to drill the ring in two places in order to get it out of the recess, then a 12 point socket hammered on there got it right out. That fucking slip ring is designed to prevent using a socket from pulling it by being slightly larger.
Good that you could get to the side of the spinning collar, the ones on my Golf are sunk right into the wheel holes, and the metal seems too hard for drill bits.
Damn good idea. I just dealt with this ridiculously tough locknut after losing my key. We got all 4 off but it was a massive pain. I wish I would've seen this first
Thanks for another option, food for though. I'm having the same problem with a 2010 volvo v50, it seems its a common problem so am looking at either piloting and drilling with cobalt bits or this. Appreciate your help 👏
I would use a grinder to cut a CROSS ( Philip's Head ) or cut the 6 sides a bit like a nut then you're able to remove the wheel lock Nut ! Another way to remove it is to weld the wheel lock nut to an ordinary nut of similar size then remove it with an Impact Wrench !
A cobalt helical die grinder or dremel bit works a bit better for recessed nuts and Fiat lug bolts. Also a sharp centre punch will drive in where a screw driver wont fit. If the bolt or nut is partially seized a female spiral 7/8 " nut remover will work where the 12 pt socket will just strip out.
Drill 2 holes into the slot, insert pin punches. then use a lever between pin punches.... If I need to continue with this explanation then you probably should take the car to a mechanic.
Us a locking wheel nut removal socket bang it on with hammer and use a impact gun and spin the duck out of the ring and it will get hot and expand and fall off
Why do they put those on in the first place?! It is not as if that type of wheel would be much subject to getting stolen is it! And you can't replace your wheel if you have a flat somewhere during a trip either! Quite absurd!
I tried for 3 hours...gave up....the 19 mm socket goes on tight...but when turned to remove it just spins....gave up...I forgot where I bought the wheel locks....I will call McGard anyway on Monday....
Have u drilled put the spinning collar. If so try a 18mm socket and hammer it on should hold tight. You peobly need a vice to hammered the socket back off the nut for the next wheel but should work
Firstly why the locking nuts on a shit car and shit alloys in the first place. Anyways alternative is to just order a new locking nut key from the main dealer.
Yeah, at midnight, in the middle of nowhere with atrocious weather ... you are going to do that ... man you need counselling ...The best is to buy a spare key, yes, you can order it ...and leave it with someone who can be disturbed to bring it to you ... otherwise call a locksmith and pay hundreds of pound for the negligence of not looking after the key
Well the tutorial isn't for if u get puncture at midnight is it. Then you would call a breakdown service this is for if you at home and need your wheels off and have lost your key. Its not mean to be a road side fix
Thankyou so much I was in such a state after paying for my tyres to be fitted then to discover a locking nut like this on my car and them wanting £55 to remove it! So turned to good old youtube and found your vid gave it a try and it worked! I'm so happy right now although I'm now having to pay fitting charges again to have my new tyre put on ,but still saved overall !! Thankyou!!
that's why i did it myself in the 1st place kwik fit wanted 95 quid to remove all 4
Thank you so much for this video. You have saved me so much anguish and pain. Wheel nuts *2 removed yesterday from my Mercedes CLS 250
My advice is for everyone to remove and scrap your security nuts and replace them with a second hand wheel bolt
While your at home and not stuck on the side of the road with no tools in the rain
Brilliant advice
security nuts and replace them with a second hand wheel bolt you not been to liverpool , i had all my wheels taken twice in 2 weeks , i think was the taxi driver who had the same car
Nice one. Just gave up trying to remove the spinning nuts from my wife's car. Will try this. Thx
Just done this, drills just snapped but this worked easily thanks for posting
Glad it helped!
That video was the best I've seen on RUclips regarding getting the locking nut off ya wheel 👍
Thanks 👍
Ive gone to every mechanic and tire shop and everyone said they cant get it off. 2011 jetta with spinnig locking nut. Im gonna have to pull out the dremel and bits and grind the sleeve off. Thanks for making this video
In the same boat with my golf, not sure what I'm gonna do
I have this same problem with a used car I recently bought. However, there's not enough clearance between the locking lug's outside diameter and the well it's in to get a grinding stone into to remove that collar. However, your (basically) brute force approach has given me some ideas. Thanks!
Clearance could be an issue. Can you find a flat grinding bit anywhere might help
Diamond bits.... I faced off with one of these yesterday. Cut a slice in the facing to expose the slip ring, then drill it with drill bits, or a diamond rotary bit. The pain in the ass part is that you have to cut it in two places to get the ring out of there.
Same I have a different style on my Lexus ls400 wheels. I’m gonna grind two slots to put a socket into the slots so it’s covering as much as the lug as possible and take a cheater bar to crack it off
I've had this in the past, I just hammered an IRWIN bolt extractor on it, it compressed the ring enough to hold on tight. ;)
Might try that.
ive just knocked the spinning collars off 4x mcgard wheel locks with a hammer and screwdriver took 5 mins they are hard but brittle they smashed on the third smack with the hammer.
Having this issue now except lug is in a hole as only the front is exposed. Can you cut it with an air chisel? Or a cold chisel maybe?
What is the die grinder you’re using? Looks like a fantastic piece of kit.
It's just off Amazon brand is goxawee I got it in the sale was about 45 UK pounds. It is pretty powerful and came with 170 bits so yeh I'm pretty happy with it for the price
Nice greetings from argentina, so what's the best locks, to avoid them getting off stealing your wheels,, or all all the same?
Isnt the point of these lug nuts to delay & deter like any other lock instead of being unremoveable without key?
Can imagine thieves not being interested in making a shit load of noise for 40 minutes.
Great way to do it if the key is lost though, havent seen ur method before
yes it is the point of them, however my key was broken as also my wheels are not worth any money there standard kia wheels, id advise putting lock nuts back on if you have expensive wheels you dont want stealing
Thank you good man.. Your video quality and a camera position is really excellent.
Thanks
Thinking about it again, you probably still have to do some grinding or using dremel cut off disc to get the nut extractor to fit
Thanks, this was a life saver
Good job, well done! Need to remember this.
Nice video. Where did you get the grinding attachment from? All the ones I got from Screwfix disintegrated on contact? Thanks
It came with it from amazon tbh honest it went through 2 or 3 or them think the key is not to force it or let them heat up to much
@@KarlFixes okay cheers. A chisel and sledge hammer got mine off in the end anyway.
Hi Dremel are the best. You also can use the metal glutted mini cutters. One problem is stopping the spinner moving . Best wedge in with another screw driver. And use thin card to protect when. Dremel extension is thinner than the machine. Just done 4 in 2 hours.
Irwin reverse bolts are great.
Wow dat spinning collar is a real autothef deal thnks kia!
The spinning collar locks look like a good deterrent for the thief considering the length of time needed as well as the noise.
Excellent video.
Thanks!
If anyone knows of a radius seat spinning collar lock let me know.....
Thats what they are there for anti theft however if you loose the special nut or it gets broken there a pain to remove.
They look like c uns to get off.
Hi mate I need to do the same thing roughly. Should I buy a cheap mig welder or one with the electrode sticks. My lock screw is more sunken inwards,so not a lot of room around the lock nut. so don't know what i should buy.
Hi I wouldn't like to advise on welders I've never used one. U Can u try a drill and a thin pinch. Drill a hole between the collar and the nut and put the punch in and whack it till the collar splits then put the socket on to screw it of
Could not be done on my yesterday on my SLK Mercedes, access deep to the locking nut and no space for socket if was possible to remove spinning collar😢
I wonder how long or how hard it is to apply some anti seize grease to bolts when installing wheels on I’m currently struggling with a Mercedes that has deep bolt wells and some asshole who fitted my brakes must have just gunned them back on dry on my second lock key and now bolt is stripped I’m gonna attempt this then I’ll use an easy out if this fails and if that fails think I’ll be using my 12” petrol grinder to cut the alloy off, all this can be avoided if people just take time and use anti seize
Can u weld a nut on and try that In your case instead of cutting the wheel off
I’ve drilled the collar off 2 sides had to break out with punch, tomorrow I’m going to belt a twist socket or socket on, I’ll also prob hit it with map gas to the hub.....
Update I got it out using a grip socket from toolstation had to grind it down to fit inside wheel well also I think the heat and penetration fluid helped over the course of 5 days 😂
I’m hoping this works on my 2009 Renault MEGANE because the inside of the wheel bolt is buggered and I’ve tried everything so I’m going to try it this weekend and hopefully I can get it off
did it work?
Good job but not sure why you used a Torque wrench when you over tightened it several time. Once it clicked if Torque is set correctly you should stop.
i wasn't tightening it i was using the longer bar of the torque wrench as breaker bar, i know bad idea but it worked int he end
Been searching for months for a good way to get my last collar bolt off my 2015 jeep cherokee and finally found this! I don't think I can do the grinding way, but comments gave me ideas for just getting the collar off... Let's hope this works today as I need to get grinding brakes fixed asap
I actually was able to grind it off!! So relieved that it can be done with this bolt!!!!
Diamond dremel bits, a few regular tiny drill bits, and a lot of patience. The one I had to deal with was a jeep, had to drill the ring in two places in order to get it out of the recess, then a 12 point socket hammered on there got it right out. That fucking slip ring is designed to prevent using a socket from pulling it by being slightly larger.
Hey sir , what size is the socket after you took the collar off?
I dont know for sure think it was a 19mm but it really depends on the size of the nut on your car. You need one to fit that
First off Who the hell would steal a Kia’s wheel .. so why have a lock nut on it for !! Lol
No idea came with the car
Lol...I was wondering the same thing. Who would be dumb enough to put one of those on one of those
I said the same thing with old clio alloys when they came into our garage 😂
I was thinking the same thing, especially that ugly thing.
Maybe someone with a Kia?
will this work on a cx5
Should work on any that has a spin collar
I wouldn't use your torque wrench as a breaker bar mate.
Yeh I know mate wasn't a great idea but they weren't on mega tight so risked it
Good that you could get to the side of the spinning collar, the ones on my Golf are sunk right into the wheel holes, and the metal seems too hard for drill bits.
Same as my zafira. Brimming annoying and no one can remove it so far.
Also my Mercedes slk. Many peeps have tried this week. Eventually removed by specialist engineers.
Nicely done.
think i would have used a stud extractor, but hay what works works ,great vid dude
I dont have one handy
A stud extractor on a nut eh.....
Use 24 mm socket to drive back the anti theft spinner first then with the tool he is using they come right off.
Damn good idea. I just dealt with this ridiculously tough locknut after losing my key. We got all 4 off but it was a massive pain. I wish I would've seen this first
Always check youtube it had the answers to every thing. At least u got the job done
What sized socket was tht?
Think 22mm but it depends on the size of your own wheel nuts. It must needs to be a tight fit so it grips hard
That is WV Škoda Audi Bolt????
Kia ceed
Using a grind stone is slow. More chances to remove the nut if you have a nut extractor socket
that's a lot of work my friend. you need a magic wand from harry potters.
Great 👍 thanks.
Good job!! But dont use a torque wrench , use a breaker bar instead.
yeh i know its the only long bar i had at the time
Why would anyone put wheel locks on those wheels ??
There on there from factory
Thanks for another option, food for though. I'm having the same problem with a 2010 volvo v50, it seems its a common problem so am looking at either piloting and drilling with cobalt bits or this. Appreciate your help 👏
Lmao Volvo C30 here
I couldn't get in to do what you did so I made myself a part to fit on my milling machine.
I don't have a milling machine lucky there was enough room to get into the bolt really
You don't have a milling machine you little fiber
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@@userwl2850 ok I will.i hope I don't have to eat my hat
@@thegeneral3094 I have a video of me making it.. hope your hat is made of chocolate 🤣👍
I would use a grinder to cut a CROSS ( Philip's Head ) or cut the 6 sides a bit like a nut then you're able to remove the wheel lock Nut ! Another way to remove it is to weld the wheel lock nut to an ordinary nut of similar size then remove it with an Impact Wrench !
good tips
@@KarlFixes Thanks ! Actually I learnt these 2 from other RUclipsrs ...
Could not yesterday on my mercedes slk, as too deep for access to locking nut.
A cobalt helical die grinder or dremel bit works a bit better for recessed nuts and Fiat lug bolts. Also a sharp centre punch will drive in where a screw driver wont fit. If the bolt or nut is partially seized a female spiral 7/8 " nut remover will work where the 12 pt socket will just strip out.
Main dealer???
You can chisel collar off no need to grind
Is the socket 23mm ?????
I'm not 100% sure the exact size I guess it depends how big your own lug is. Just use one that is slightly larger than the lunar nut so it grips
Just weld a nut to the end then turn the nut... you made this so difficult.
Most normal people don't have a welder just sitting around there house. That's the problem with that
You are a star!Thanks mate
And with that you lost the socket. It would be better to weld a nut onto the bolt and remove it with a wrench.
most people dont have a welder lying around there house.
Drill 2 holes into the slot, insert pin punches. then use a lever between pin punches....
If I need to continue with this explanation then you probably should take the car to a mechanic.
What kind of pin punches can handle that torque?
Does this actually work
I love drilling .............
Us a locking wheel nut removal socket bang it on with hammer and use a impact gun and spin the duck out of the ring and it will get hot and expand and fall off
may i ask you does this technique work on all type of lockers with spinning ring or only some?
Does anyone still pinch wheels those days? I thought it went out with the 70s
mine got pinched 2 years ago in manchester
Yeah to order.
Great video Karl thanks. I've got to do all four on my Ford.
No problem mate here to try help we're I can
I did mine way easier, use the nut removing tool and would save your nut "no cut" just hammer.
why the heck one would put lock nuts on crappy wheels in the first place?
Came as standard with the car.
Shame, that wheel nut was half the value of your car.
I know mate that's why I wanted rid tbf it's been a good reliable car. No need to get rid of it eats the miles and never fails
Why do they put those on in the first place?! It is not as if that type of wheel would be much subject to getting stolen is it! And you can't replace your wheel if you have a flat somewhere during a trip either! Quite absurd!
Totally agree
we can remove in 10 seconds, we can discuss.
It's better to buy a new socket to not destroy the all of the other
Just get an air chisel in and get it off no drilling drinking needed
what if you put super glue in there and then try removing it
Crude but effective
I tried for 3 hours...gave up....the 19 mm socket goes on tight...but when turned to remove it just spins....gave up...I forgot where I bought the wheel locks....I will call McGard anyway on Monday....
Have u drilled put the spinning collar. If so try a 18mm socket and hammer it on should hold tight. You peobly need a vice to hammered the socket back off the nut for the next wheel but should work
Use a standard screwdriver that will work .
Ues a standard screwdriver
And this is how you ruin a torque wrench!
God idea
Firstly why the locking nuts on a shit car and shit alloys in the first place. Anyways alternative is to just order a new locking nut key from the main dealer.
Because they come.with the car as standard I didnt put them on as aftermarket.
You can take a 19 mm 12 star socket and smack it over it lol
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Yeah, at midnight, in the middle of nowhere with atrocious weather ... you are going to do that ... man you need counselling ...The best is to buy a spare key, yes, you can order it ...and leave it with someone who can be disturbed to bring it to you ... otherwise call a locksmith and pay hundreds of pound for the negligence of not looking after the key
Well the tutorial isn't for if u get puncture at midnight is it. Then you would call a breakdown service this is for if you at home and need your wheels off and have lost your key. Its not mean to be a road side fix
Thieves like to work fast though.
Im.sure thieves probably have master keys cut to take these off with ease but the normal people its not that easy
www.locking-wheelnut-removal.co.uk for all who have this problem!
Your outta control
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