Mid Summer Weekend Chores With The Ford 8N! Brush-Hog Mowing & Final Plot Discing
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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Good drone work, good tune. Love the 8N's. Thanks for including us.
Man I need to get my old girl running and sounding that good. Been neglecting her but she works hard anyway.
Good old 8N! I love it! I learned how to run a tractor on one! 😀😃🙂🙃😊
Pre-work grease & oil check ???? Clearly you're not a real farmer....from what I've seen in last 25yrs as a machinist...real farmers don't add grease untill AFTER it's broke down . lol
The smart farmers check it and do what's needed. Unfortunately I'll bet you've not met many smart farmers due to the fact they take care of their equipment.
Thanks for the 8N tips! Excellent
Amazing how a 70+ year old tractor can still do work. So nice that your equipment isn't just a collection of garage queens.
Like those older Ford tractors. I have a 1952 Ferguson TO30 that I need to have restored.
They only have what 41 hp, but the torque is great!
Yep an old metal park bench in the shade trees, perfect!
The gearbox sounds like it was operated for a time without any oil in it
As you clearly pointed out, you absolutely must run coupler/overrunning clutch. I want to make thus suggestion/note for folks out there. Because the little Ford 8n's and similar tractors have a very different PTO/3 pt arm geometry than modern tractors getting a overrunning clutch on with those attachments can be impossible with a standard overrunning clutch and keeping your driveline angles reasonable. Case in point I picked up a RM600 Woods finish mower to use on it and once I started mounting everything up I figured out that the geometry was just all wrong and putting a standard overrunning clutch on it was going to make it worse.
Basically a standard overrunning style clutch moves the PTO back 6-8". In the case of the mower I purchased I would have to cut down the shaft so that it would only be 16" or so. This is a problem because you don't have any telescopic play in the shaft so if you lift the mower you will pull the shaft apart. The best solution in my case was to build a custom shaft with an overrunning clutch built into the pto shaft. Basically the end coupler that connects to the PTO on the tractor also has a overrunning clutch built into it. That way rather than pushing everything back 8" or more it was pushed back only 1-2". Unfortunately the only vendor I found that makes these Weasler doesn't make them for American spec shafts so I had to basically replace the whole shaft and modify it to fit the mower. It cost about $3-400 to build and machine the entire shaft but TBH it was the only way to keep the angles from too getting crazy. I still can't lift the mower all the way up (about 1/2 way) or it will pull the shaft out but at least it's manageable vs what it would have been with a regular overrunning clutch.
I have an 8N tractor. Enjoyed your video.
That can’t be a brush hog. Real brush hogs have holes rusted in the decks, big enough to drop beagles through. That way, owners can advertise them for sale as, “Good shape, works good. Could use a couple of welds.”
Fun to watch. Thanks.
Good music!
I thought maybe you ran away from home! 😆🤣😂😹
Maybe not quite as loud as yours, but my Countyline (same mfr., I think) has a growl too. Bought it used with not a lot of hours and did not look to be abused at all. The guy used it to clear a grassy lot before building his house and then sold it it me at a fraction of new. Cheap little mower, but works well behind the 8n and my NAA.
I thought my gearbox was loud but I believe you have me beat. Mine has been loud for 20+ years and still runs fine.
Yeah for the brush hog making that whining noise when it starts up is normal my stepdad has a 52 8n with a woods brush hog and it makes the same noise
Looks great
Love the video. If you have never got your finger smashed in those ring locks, you will. Also you will learn or create a few new words.
Grew up with an 8n pre overrun clutch, if you are fast on your feet you bump the throttle and slip the gearbox out of gear without touching the clutch to save yourself from a radiator change. there is a surprising amount of HP stored in the flywheel of that cutter disk.
I forgot about bumping the throttle to take the pto out of gear.
You can do that on any manual transmission to get it out of gear.
That's part of double clutching.
The reason why the mower‘s probably make the that noise is because the blade is spinning at higher rpm because I have a brush hard too when it makes that noise to it’s the blade spinning fast 6:56
Those Ford 8&9ns have a incredible balance they are amazing little tractors
My step dad bought one for the farm - he could work on it because it was what he used as a kid in the 1940's These things were made for many decades - a really awesome design that should still be made today.
No one that I know can afford a personal use modern tractor - sure for a working farm you want that John Deere A/C cab, but just for a family homestead or food plot that professional tractor is over priced and over kill
They sure were very nice tractors with the Ferguson 3 point hitch on there.
Too bad they didn't have a better clutch system and a better loader bucket on them.
What about the 2Ns? 😁
@@TF856 to be fair I don't have any experience with the 2ns but I've heard they are good too
I remember watching last year's hoggin' video like it was yesterday 🤠
Thanks for the memories. I remember driving the "little Ford' on my Grandmother's farm. Grandpa had passed but my uncle showed us how to drive it. Don't think I was much more than 7 or 8 years old. Always liked those little Fords since those wonderful days
As a little kid of maybe four years old, I can remember the lot my dad built our house on, being cleared by a Ford tractor that looked a LOT like this, from around 1951. I LOVE those old Fords, and yours is beautiful!
my mower makes noise to, i got it used, the guy even used it the day befor i got it so i just assumed it was all good, then one day i decided to check the oil and there was hardly anything in it, so of course i topped it off, i will just use it as is.
I should have never sold my 8N, I miss it !!!
8N Ford purring real nice!
I would often flip into neural to keep from getting pushed into the fence rows.
Love that you use your old iron
The old Ford tractor did a excellent job with the mower and disc
About the only draw back on the 8N is not being able to use the three-point hitch when the PTO is disengaged. Other than that I like my 8N.
I have the same King Kutter brush cutter and my gearbox is noisy also. I decided not to go to your machine shop up north but instead interviewed a guy in a nearby town. He seemed to fit the bill so I brought it to him. Everything went fine except for some reason he thought he should punch the the rear cam welch plug out and it happened to be swaged in the block. I am now working with a shoulder in the block the thickness of the new welch plug that is holding the plug in the block. I was not too happy with the shop for that mistake. I am going to use some original JB weld epoxy to help hold it in and drill and tap holes in the block in the cam journal 180 degrees apart and put a metal strap across the welch plug. Everything is ready to go back together as far as the engine is concerned. I took your advice and had them install the sleeves. Thanks for all you share on your channel.
Regarding Senior's food plots;-make sure you include some Chinese Chestnuts. Bigger nut than American and they are very disease resistant. There may be a GMO American with most of the disease resistance of the Chinese - but it won't be commercially available for years.
Great video I have a k k mower like yours and I mixed grease in with the oil in my gear box and it will quite it down also if you're seal was to leak it won't hurt the gear box grease can't get through the seal
Hey Squatch I’ve had my king Kutter 6 foot mower about 20 years-heard the same gear noise. Also several other KK products & im throughly satisfied with their equipment. More rocks for the pile- looking good. Thanks, John
Almost killed myself running an 8N and a bush hog without a runout clutch. Saw some big rocks in the brush at the last second and I was standing on the brakes when the momentum of the blades pushed the tractor into the rocks. It just about bucked me over the hood and stopped when the bush hog hit the rocks with a loud bang. Someday I need to go back and look for the scars on the rocks.
Those little fords are a dangerous little tractor if not used properly. 😊👍 I grew up on one
A bush hog almost pushed the M I was on into a drainage ditch before I could get it stopped.
Long ago experience with the N and haven't driven one for decades. But if you clutch and shift the transmission to neutral the tractor would come to a stop.
I grew up in the 40s-50s with a 9n 1937 on a orchard farm in south Alabama. I operate a early Ford 2000. I love watching your 8n work.... Great camera shots....RTR
Woods makes a really good bush hog. My gearbox is silent.
The dump has a pretty good collection of old cans laying there already so why not add a few more empties!
The music, the view, and that little n are like neon flashing "Americana" in the best possible sense. I approve of all three. Thumbs up good sir!
Wow that gearbox is loud, would drive me nuts.
Awesome little tractor. I traded in my 8 N for The Dexta because it didn't have live PTO. But there are times I miss it. Got a subscriber great channel.
Very interesting video OP. I mentioned in a tractor forum recently, that I might buy a Ford N series tractor for bush hogging, and was told not to. That they don't have a 'live PTO' and were terrible for that purpose. But your's seems to do the job just fine.
Late 49 up have live pto! I just bought an early 49 like the new one we got when I was a kid and this one is like new. If you get use to the pto and lift working off the clutch it's no big deal.When I was 14 to 16 yrs I mowed 50 acre pecan groove about once every month and it was nice. tractor.
I pick up on everything, I saw you had the blades turning when you put the clipper back under the shed.
The gearbox certainly is noisy!
as he said, its cheap, so probably straight cut gears in it. Gonna be noisier than helical cut gears. Plus that top deck is gonna act like a speaker and amplify any sound like a drumhead
Are you bringing the ford down to Albany pioneer days next week? Hope to see you there!
Glad to see that most if not all 8n’s either are, or they all sound like they misfiring. I always thought it was just mine. I have a 48’, and they sound identical. I also had no clue that adapter you have on the PTO shaft to make it free spin even existed. Would have been nice to have that when i seen something laying in field that shouldn’t be there, or in close quarters. Had to push in the clutch, and pray it will stop before you run over it. Just bought a 67’ David Brown 780 Selectamatic wanted something for more HP, and the PTO is separated from lift. Keeping the 8n for now because it seems like everybody and their brother is selling them right now. It’ll be 75 years old next year, and runs just like yours. You have a better paint job. Im typically not a ford guy, but they definitely done good built these little tractors.
I love your 8N Ford tractor and it looks good after you got through mourn the grass what's the purpose of the disc
I have the older version of that king cutter brush hog ,however, my gear box doesn't sound like yours try removing the gear oil and replacing it with lucas oil additive read the instructions for the oil and additive ratio . I use lucas in all my motors and gear boxes it makes gear boxes run quite .
I am seriously looking hard at getting ahold of an 8N for my small 8AC property.
I will be mainly using it for Bush hogging the pastures from time to time, box-blading the gravel driveway, and bailing hay.
Do you think it would be good for all those jobs???
I will be using a square baler.
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OK. Thank you. I will look into something else then.
The old Ford 8 and 9's were great little tractors. I missed out on a 8 not long ago for 1500 bucks. It needed some work but was usable. Really enjoy the drone footage. Cheers squatch253
I never drove an 8N, I did some on a Jubilee but most of my bush hogging was done with a pull behind bush hog to either a WD 45 or D 17 Allis Chalmers. Both of those tractors had a hand clutch that would allow the PTO to keep running when it was engaged but the foot clutch would not. I got pushed into a wooden gate and broke the gate. My father was not a happy man about that. I mostly cut cotton stalks or corn stalks, after they were harvested by a corn picker, before the ground was turned over with a moldboard plow. Cotton stalks were the worst, the bolls that never ripened would be caught by the mower and often came out the front of mower. They were really bad on the D 17 because the back of your legs were just below the rear axles and they would come out with enough force to really hurt.
I used a old allis tractor that had the pto like that I remember I was mowing and came up to a creek and needed to stop I hit the clutch and it kept going my rear end clamped the seat tight lol it stopped just short of going in needless to say I was way more careful after that
I wonder if cotton picker spindle grease in the gearbox instead of oil would quiet that thing down. Gearbox manufacturer probably used cheap cut gears, the rest of the mower looks tough. What size tires are you running on the front?
This is awesome. My father and I recently purchased a property that came with a running 8N. We have zero idea how to operate it but this video was great for seeing what the possibilities are.
That's great, my grandpa has 1 of these. It's always been a good little tractor.
I want to say on the gear shifter, it's backwards
I love driving vintage tractors!!!
Good video, though it might be wise to attach check chain onto the PTO drive shaft outer cover to stop it rotating along with the main shaft.
I did not know about the PTO Overdriving coupling.. Were did you get yours??
I have a field of sticks, roots and rocks. I am hoping to follow your lead of cultivating. I also have a dump rake I was thinking of getting a hitch on and pulling through after cultivating to get the junk into piles or rows would be easier to pick up then too
I bought a Ford N8 and I would like to know what kind of bush hog you have on that tractor and nice job.
Thank you
Very, very well done! Great videography! Thank you. We have a 2n, and are picking up a 51 8n this week, very therapeutic video! 😀
Hi, Squatch and viewers I'm rebuilding a John Deere 750 compact tractor 1984 model I am in need of a tachometer JD part number is ch15209 can’t find it anywhere. Any ideas would help.
According to this other fella the top portion of your brush hog is assembled incorrectly. that square welded on block is to support the brush hog and allow for the brush hog to pop up is hitting something and act as a stopper when lifting the brush hog with the arms, see video. ruclips.net/video/3MaL5cC0eNw/видео.htmlsi=DNsgzCeLJDgpGawT I'm new to this stuff, well the hands on portion, Dad was always one to "watch me work" kinda guy and didn't want any help and kinda resented when I offered to do something. Take a look and see whet you think. I have the next version of the 8N , it's a 600 or 800, I think but the PTO shaft is the same way, it will continue to drive the tractor forward and I wonder if also backward when in reverse? I want to get under the trees as far as possible so there is not the buffer of crap between the trees and field so if the PTO thing happens in reverse that could be a problem. So I'm going to look into that PTO coupling you have an also give my tractor a bath so it looks more like yours than a moving grease pile. LOL
My Dad had an 8 N and it was a little beast for dragging logs out. And brushhogging. That would be the only Ford I would own...LOL..HAHA.
.Great Video. You need one those little roofs they made for those 8N's. Dad had one on his. They help for all they are...
Awesome use of the old Ford I have a 1940 9N I'm restoring.
my dad had a to20 that thing was dangerous
We put a ih b-250 through a barn on a brush hog. Didn’t have a over running pto
I know a guy that had a bush hog behind an Oliver 70 and it pushed him right through the barn
Some mores having over-running clutch right on the gearbox which is Handy also
As soon as I read the title I dropped what I was doing and hit play. Why??? Because I knew if anyone would set up and operate a brush hog to my standards it would be squatch. And by God - you did not disappoint. THe tai wheel positioned to support the deck, the deck running level to the area being mowed - all with a tiny antiques Ford tractor and a cheap brush hog. This video should be mandatory for anyone who operates a brush hog - usually the tail wheel is in its highest position, the entire weight of the brush hog deck is hanging off the hitch and the deck is about 20 degrees out of level with the back end dragging in the dirt (or close to it). Drives me nuts that people don't have a little bit of respect for their equipment and any self respect for the quality of their work. What is the turf height you are set up for? Thanks buddy! 😊
SAFETY FIRST Please put PTO shield on tractor
It's got the power didn't bog the tractor even a tiny bit . From your description that overrun is a major safety device that should be on any simular tractor.
That pto seems to be spinning super fast 1000 rpm's . 😜
Any updates on 5J1113? I know you're working on outdoor projects just was curious if there items you sent out that may have come back or not. Keep up the good work.
This brings back memories. My dad used to have an old Ferguson TE20. Pretty much the same tractor.
You weren’t kidding! That cutter box is noisy!
I always badmouthed the N series Ford tractors. But then a buddy of mine asked me to get his running. I now have respect for them. Easy for a old automotive tech like me to relate to.
What size is the rotary mower? 5 foot? I have a line on an used 5 footer, and the guy is telling me it would almost be too much for an 8N.
@@squatch253 ok, that makes sense. Thanks for responding back to me.
We had a massy Ferguson 35. Ran a small crops and dairy farm. Did Hill work every day. Never let us down.
You should see if any neighbors want to graze cattle or sheep on that grass. Might save you some time.
My dad has been farming for 70+ years. I told him you were using the stabilizers with the disc. He said not the best way to do it. With them I makes it harder to steer while using the disc. He said you need to let the disc swing free side to side.
I like the way your mower shaft connects. My friends Woods mower and 8N had a clevis pin to connect the shaft to the PTO.
The N series tractors are probably the worst brush hogging tractors ever! An 860 power master with 5 speed transmission would be far better tractor for brush hogging.
Talk about the drive shaft cover on your brush hog. You let it spin with the shaft. Mine all have chains to attach that hold them still. Thought it was a safety thing.
Love watching you work. Sense of humor is pretty good too.
Drop o sawdust'll quieten her down, buh! ;)
I think the noise of the mower gear box noise is being amplified by the flat top plate of the mower.
Now if I hadn't been watching this video. I'd have mown my postage stamp.
Another good 'un Toby! And I'm with you 100% with that rest area! :-)
Why plant evergreens when you could have planted food crops?
Just a waste IMO to plant anything that you can't eat. That could have been a row of apples down one side and pears with black berries down both sides - what a waste of land and effort. IMO
@@squatch253 HAhahahaha thanks for the speedy and personal reply
My mom had a cherry tree out in the front yard - we never got a single cherry - we would watch the fruit mature and the day they were ripe enough to be picked a huge flock of birds would eat every cherry in half an hour at the break of dawn.
If it was my tree I would have netted it, but she didn't care to do it - she liked feeding the birds I guess.
I grow bamboo for a noise barrier, but this is in town with a small city lot. the house and fence are 4 feet apart and form a natural barrier for overgrowth - they grow quickly, small shoots can be eaten, and they make great fishing poles, kite frames, and other building project material.
I love the music. I used to have a 9 N and I learned real quick i need the overrun clutch when mowing. I have some red cedars that were no bigger than a pencil when i planted them. Must at least be 12" in diameter now.
I had a relative with an 8N and they used it w/o an overrun clutch. Their tractor still had the original spline PTO shaft, but someone put an adapter on it to make it a modern spline. It had been on so long that only a knowledgeable 8N owner would have noticed. Well, modern splines are about twice as long so only about 1/2 the the adapter was really "powered" and the rest was just taking up space.
Eventually they twisted that adapter right off.
I learned about over run clutches and found one for them.
I did grow up on a farm, but everything we had was equipped with live PTO's and, if an overrun clutch is even needed there, it's probably built into the tractor.
TBH, never got to do any tractor repair work, I just drove 'em, lol.
Nice video! We love our Ford 8N.
When you're mowing the really thick stuff have you ever had your pto kick out of gear? I've been having that problem lately.
No, we’ve never had this tractor do that.
This is why my ford 641 is much nicer than a 8n or 9n, same size, but more power and live hydraulics.
And your bushog still has the little wheel at the back and most of the deck has not rotted away... lucky mines, well, junk...
I love the smell of disked ground!
I do the same thing with my mower drive shaft
Yes, it's nice farm. Good working on land, isn't it?
We run chains on our brush hog. Leave the PTO attached and leave the lift lever down. So much easier in my opinion, but we also do not have to drive down the road.
The state DOT I work for, we use a length of chain instead of a top link. Allows us to get in and out of ditches easier!!
Might as well start welding that junk pile into a picnick table and benches. :-)
Never understood why Ford connected the hydraulics to the PTO. On my Farmall H my dad and granddad taught me to just pop it our of gear when you want to stop. Either just grab the lever and pull to neutral or maybe give the clutch a light kick and release while moving the shifter to neutral. That's always worked for me.
Had the kk shredder at work and it sounds the same
Where do I purchase a quality PTO over ride like on your PTO shaft?
I just bought this one from my local farm supply store, and it’s held up well.