X-yachts has a cruising line, the “XC.” They are better comps for Ben/Jen cruisers. The main sheet is on a traveler forward of the companionway, led back to winches by the dual helms. They are easily single-handed. They are definitely not as roomy below, but have better stowage, and their cockpits seem quite small (some people would say much safer). Fit and finishes are far superior, and the keel-steeped mast with rod rigging to chain plates attached to the steel grid holding the keel are something to behold. X has the “XP” line, explicitly for racing (P for performance”, the straight “X” which you reviewed and the XC. The “X” might be called a gentleman’s racer with a sideline in cruising. However, the XC, despite its narrower cruising hull also points at 35° and is astonishingly fast. It isn’t designed for planing, It’s designed to be faster than a flat bottomed boat when not planing. Someone please tell me how many cruisers actually expect to plane their flat-bottomed boats?
There is another plus from the flush deck. Two years ago we put custom produced very thin solar panel over the whole roof top of one these. Just think about all the amps you produce. All cables went straight under deck. For us it was a bit nerve wracking to drill a dozen holes through the roof of a new boat. Very important to do the caulking right ;-)
It's a lovely boat, but only for a very specific group of very well off sailors. Yep, those hatches are silly, but I assume you can afford to "fix" them. Some seats for the helms must be an option, but the single rudder is good. I'm damning this boat with expensively faint praise! Thanks Tim. ⚓
I think if you see in person, you would change your mind on the hatches. I have traditional old style hatches on my boat, and certainly wouldn't have the foredeck one open when sailing other than in the calmest weather, a lip helps, but any way wave will go right over it. These flush hatches have a built in drainage channel around them, which stops any surface water or rain water from getting below, it would only leak if an actual wave washed across it while open. The advantage (other than the looks) is being able to lie down on coach roof and foredeck without a hatch sticking into your back, when sailing in fair weather it would make a fantastic sunbathing spot.
As I'm fond of saying "what you don't see is what you are paying for". The grid system, which used to be galvanized steel but now i believe is carbon fiber, the foam core in the hull and deck. All equates to an exceptionally strong hull.
Its still galvanised steel, only carbon on the racing lines. (The XP I think) I looked around an X43 at the Southampton boat show the other week, really really lovely boat when seen in person. Sadly I don't have a spare 600k under the pillow!
Love the channel. Understand the focus on the BVIs, ICW and East Coast cruising, but I'm assuming a lot of your viewers are like me - not on the East Coast and more interested in go-fast boats (on a budget). More of that content as well please!
I don't have the numbers, but for the keel: it has a very strong steel matrix. we service a few of them (north Germany and south Denmark) and they all look good and stronger built than normal "production boats". But if you run aground hard, that's another story. we just have one in repair where the aft end of the matrix came loose from the hull after hitting a rock (the keel is build from cast iron and a lead bulb both laminated over. there was a big chunk of lead missing... ). so if you hit something, you need to repair it. but that's quite usual with performance keels, isn't it?
Interesting comment about the flush ports on the bow being susceptible to spray. However, I was also thinking how nice to have a flat deck to sleep on instead of curling around hatches that "stand proud." Thanks for fine review.
I think the question about the Neels is how well do they hold up? What problems do they have? I've learned that everything looks great at the boat show, everything is a nightmare for the first six months, but what's it like after a year or two? And are they really faster sailing than the cats? And what about the teeter totter rocking at anchor?
Looking for our first "island hopper" Currently tarrgetting a Catalina 380 with the rear island queen. Having some issues finding other "smaller" boats with island queen beds. Can you help?
Hi Tim Just traded in our 2003 BENETEAU 423 for a 2014 BENETEAU Oc 45 . I think this will be a good fast cruising boat. Single rudder and hull that is not as flat as the newer models. Time will tell . Love your honest reviews Mike and Janice
It seems to me that a 6' draft on this boat is probably pushing the stability limits, and attempting to go even shallower would be dangerous for a boat with this much HP. The designers would also need to add even more ballast if reducing draft further - not the best recipe for a performance boat. X Yachts is not attempting to compete with Bahama / ICW designs - they are creating a discriminator for people who care little for those capabilities.
How does this relatively expensive boat square with the channel name "Practical Sailor"? What is practical about this boat? The video covered other similar sized Beneteau or similarly priced $700,000 boats. But did not directly define its purpose nor compare it with other boats with a similar purpose.
Terrible cruising boat. Great race boat! Deep fin keels and spade rudders wide open transoms don’t belong on a cruising boat. (Of course I wouldn’t even buy a bene or Jen ether for cruising
@@dr.daveaussickerph.d.8395 wrong. 80 percent of the X-Yachts in the Baltic (thats their main market) are used purely for Crusing. When do you ever see a X in the Bahamas or East coast? Even in the Med they are rare. Status symbols like Najad, Comfortinas, Hallberg Rassys. German, Danish and Swedish Marinas are full of them. Quality not as good as pretended here....same as Swan.
Yes you can cruise on it. Just sailed from California to Tahiti and back on an X Yacht. A fantastic ride!
XC? They have a crusing range ...
Love these Boat tour videos thank you for taking the time to make them!
X-yachts has a cruising line, the “XC.” They are better comps for Ben/Jen cruisers. The main sheet is on a traveler forward of the companionway, led back to winches by the dual helms. They are easily single-handed. They are definitely not as roomy below, but have better stowage, and their cockpits seem quite small (some people would say much safer). Fit and finishes are far superior, and the keel-steeped mast with rod rigging to chain plates attached to the steel grid holding the keel are something to behold.
X has the “XP” line, explicitly for racing (P for performance”, the straight “X” which you reviewed and the XC. The “X” might be called a gentleman’s racer with a sideline in cruising. However, the XC, despite its narrower cruising hull also points at 35° and is astonishingly fast. It isn’t designed for planing, It’s designed to be faster than a flat bottomed boat when not planing. Someone please tell me how many cruisers actually expect to plane their flat-bottomed boats?
but still the XC lines dont have true shoal-draft keels which is a must in many waters
No, definitely not Bahamas bound boats. The 45 is not ICW friendly either at 71’. But that leaves most of the rest of the world
Narrow?
There is another plus from the flush deck. Two years ago we put custom produced very thin solar panel over the whole roof top of one these. Just think about all the amps you produce. All cables went straight under deck. For us it was a bit nerve wracking to drill a dozen holes through the roof of a new boat. Very important to do the caulking right ;-)
Would like your thoughts on a Sirius 40DS. Maybe you can get a boat tour.
It's a lovely boat, but only for a very specific group of very well off sailors. Yep, those hatches are silly, but I assume you can afford to "fix" them. Some seats for the helms must be an option, but the single rudder is good. I'm damning this boat with expensively faint praise! Thanks Tim. ⚓
I think if you see in person, you would change your mind on the hatches. I have traditional old style hatches on my boat, and certainly wouldn't have the foredeck one open when sailing other than in the calmest weather, a lip helps, but any way wave will go right over it.
These flush hatches have a built in drainage channel around them, which stops any surface water or rain water from getting below, it would only leak if an actual wave washed across it while open.
The advantage (other than the looks) is being able to lie down on coach roof and foredeck without a hatch sticking into your back, when sailing in fair weather it would make a fantastic sunbathing spot.
Thanks Tim.
As I'm fond of saying "what you don't see is what you are paying for". The grid system, which used to be galvanized steel but now i believe is carbon fiber, the foam core in the hull and deck. All equates to an exceptionally strong hull.
Its still galvanised steel, only carbon on the racing lines. (The XP I think)
I looked around an X43 at the Southampton boat show the other week, really really lovely boat when seen in person. Sadly I don't have a spare 600k under the pillow!
Love the channel. Understand the focus on the BVIs, ICW and East Coast cruising, but I'm assuming a lot of your viewers are like me - not on the East Coast and more interested in go-fast boats (on a budget). More of that content as well please!
Where are the stability calcs? I am leery of such beam, and a very vulnerable keel.
I don't have the numbers, but for the keel: it has a very strong steel matrix. we service a few of them (north Germany and south Denmark) and they all look good and stronger built than normal "production boats". But if you run aground hard, that's another story. we just have one in repair where the aft end of the matrix came loose from the hull after hitting a rock (the keel is build from cast iron and a lead bulb both laminated over. there was a big chunk of lead missing... ). so if you hit something, you need to repair it. but that's quite usual with performance keels, isn't it?
Love X-yacht. Thanks Tim.
How do these new boats handle wind vane steering?
Look at the new Xyachts 47C
Interesting comment about the flush ports on the bow being susceptible to spray. However, I was also thinking how nice to have a flat deck to sleep on instead of curling around hatches that "stand proud." Thanks for fine review.
The new J/40
I think the question about the Neels is how well do they hold up? What problems do they have? I've learned that everything looks great at the boat show, everything is a nightmare for the first six months, but what's it like after a year or two? And are they really faster sailing than the cats? And what about the teeter totter rocking at anchor?
Do the Catalina 426 next! We have been wanting one so bad and there just doesn’t seem to be any to go see on the west coast.
Can’t wait to used HH
Tim, what would you recommend with Capt. day rental for tourist in South Carolina. ICW, Little river inlet areas.
Looking for our first "island hopper" Currently tarrgetting a Catalina 380 with the rear island queen. Having some issues finding other "smaller" boats with island queen beds. Can you help?
Check out the X4.0… Less expensive and better layout. Just as much fun to sail
Perfect example of If you can't be rich...have rich friends! I.E. I'll never get a ride on one of these...but it would be fun in a blow!
Mohr Divide
Hi Tim
Just traded in our 2003 BENETEAU 423 for a 2014 BENETEAU Oc 45 . I think this will be a good fast cruising boat. Single rudder and hull that is not as flat as the newer models. Time will tell . Love your honest reviews
Mike and Janice
That's a cool boat for the Scandinavians! The rest of the word is much better of with a new Elan E6 or E5 for (less than) HALF of that money, though.
It seems to me that a 6' draft on this boat is probably pushing the stability limits, and attempting to go even shallower would be dangerous for a boat with this much HP. The designers would also need to add even more ballast if reducing draft further - not the best recipe for a performance boat. X Yachts is not attempting to compete with Bahama / ICW designs - they are creating a discriminator for people who care little for those capabilities.
Hair Transplant.🤠
Sirus yachts
Wrbg
How does this relatively expensive boat square with the channel name "Practical Sailor"?
What is practical about this boat?
The video covered other similar sized Beneteau or similarly priced $700,000 boats.
But did not directly define its purpose nor compare it with other boats with a similar purpose.
Practical Sailor has been published since the mid 70's. "Practical" has never been synonymous with "cheap" in this context.
Sometimes it's fun to learn about boats ⛵⛵⛵
He is biased against Jeanneau and Beneteau for some strange reason.
@@dr.daveaussickerph.d.8395not a strange reason. A good reason
Nope nope nope
Still sticking with my Catalina 380
Terrible cruising boat. Great race boat! Deep fin keels and spade rudders wide open transoms don’t belong on a cruising boat. (Of course I wouldn’t even buy a bene or Jen ether for cruising
No one would by X for cruising! Not to mention the outrageous price tag!
@@dr.daveaussickerph.d.8395plenty of people cruise with their X-yachts.
@@dr.daveaussickerph.d.8395 wrong. 80 percent of the X-Yachts in the Baltic (thats their main market) are used purely for Crusing. When do you ever see a X in the Bahamas or East coast?
Even in the Med they are rare. Status symbols like Najad, Comfortinas, Hallberg Rassys. German, Danish and Swedish Marinas are full of them. Quality not as good as pretended here....same as Swan.
Capsize ratio 3.4?
You lost credibility by your pointless criticism of Jeanneau and Beneteau.
I'm sure you're fun at parties.
What B/Jenny you got?