What Did the Real Antikythera Mechanism Do And Who Actually Made It?

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  • Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
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    In 2023’s Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, the latest entry in the iconic adventure film series, everyone’s favourite swashbuckling archaeologist/grave robber hunts after the titular dial, a mechanism invented by Ancient Greek mathematician Archimedes to predict the appearance of fissures in time, allowing the user to travel between the present and the past…because, sure, why not? But while this fantastical plot element might sound like the product of a particularly drunken session of antiquities-themed Mad Libs, amazingly, it is actually based on a real-life artifact called the Antikythera Mechanism, funny enough. Dating from the 1st century B.C.E, this incredibly sophisticated assembly of bronze gears has baffled archaeologists for over a century, predating the earliest known mechanisms of its kind by more than a millennium. Only in recent years has its true function been determined, revealed to be an ancient form of analogue computer - the oldest on record. This is the story of the most incredible example of ancient mechanical and mathematical genius ever discovered. So let’s dive into it, shall we?
    Author: Gilles Messier
    Host: Simon Whistler
    Editor: Daven Hiskey
    Producer: Samuel Avila
    This video is #sponsored by Fishing Clash.

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  • @TodayIFoundOut
    @TodayIFoundOut  2 месяца назад +18

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    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 2 месяца назад +1

      What if a Time-traveler went back in time and tried to Industrialized Bronze Age Egypt?

    • @ExpanSV
      @ExpanSV 2 месяца назад +3

      That code doesn't work...

    • @shanbannan17
      @shanbannan17 Месяц назад

      you would think humanity would come together and build rockets so we can spread out in the universe if we ar going to die from this sun in the end well we get what we deserve

    • @jmanyoyoyo
      @jmanyoyoyo Месяц назад +1

      This add reminded me why I unsubscribed from this channel

  • @davidspencer7254
    @davidspencer7254 2 месяца назад +388

    I look forward to seeing Simon forget all this on a Decoding episode in half a years time.

    • @the80hdgaming
      @the80hdgaming 2 месяца назад +38

      Half a year? I figured he'd be more like 3-4 days and it's gone... Like Homer Simpson... "Every time I learn something new, something old gets pushed out of my brain"... 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Balrog-tf3bg
      @Balrog-tf3bg 2 месяца назад +34

      I swear he’s done a video on this already

    • @the80hdgaming
      @the80hdgaming 2 месяца назад +24

      @@Balrog-tf3bg probably done 5 across all his channels tbf... 🤣🤣🤣

    • @davidroddini1512
      @davidroddini1512 2 месяца назад +6

      Heck,that’s better than me. I’ll forget by the end of the video! 😝

    • @HDTech22
      @HDTech22 2 месяца назад +4

      He already forgot.

  • @2020_Visi0n
    @2020_Visi0n 2 месяца назад +71

    We often assume our historical progress is like a hill, steadily but consistently gaining altitude. When in truth it's more like the waves on a violent ocean, occasionally crashing into the cliffs.
    Given enough time the cliffs will be eroded as though they never even existed. Only to be replaced by another

    • @Gamerzsociaty
      @Gamerzsociaty Месяц назад +3

      The sad part is that historical progress has always been limited by war. Either a dominant and advanced state gets overthrown by a coalition of smaller states or a smaller state gets annexed into a larger state.

    • @Jokerwolf666
      @Jokerwolf666 Месяц назад +2

      Well we're living in a post-apocalyptic world now clearly

  • @mikal4452
    @mikal4452 2 месяца назад +72

    That device is absolutely mind boggling.

  • @paulford9120
    @paulford9120 2 месяца назад +33

    Excellent video but... what scatterbrain dreamed up that fishing commercial?

  • @jeffsuter344
    @jeffsuter344 2 месяца назад +138

    Now I am waiting for a buried Stargate to be discovered in Egypt.

    • @litigioussociety4249
      @litigioussociety4249 2 месяца назад +15

      I love that episode where the guy builds a single use one in Sam's basement.

    • @spencerrichard4304
      @spencerrichard4304 2 месяца назад

      @@litigioussociety4249episode number? I loved watching reruns as a kid and have been thinking about watching the show all the way through

    • @2020_Visi0n
      @2020_Visi0n 2 месяца назад +13

      Cue SG-1 theme music

    • @mikalmos369
      @mikalmos369 2 месяца назад +2

      I see I wasn't the only nerd that wanted to leave this comment

    • @tiborbogi7457
      @tiborbogi7457 2 месяца назад

      I am waiting for MAT1 on the Moon😀

  • @Tophperry
    @Tophperry 2 месяца назад +251

    Clickspring has a series of videos where he makes one using period correct tools and he makes the tools.

    • @captiannemo1587
      @captiannemo1587 2 месяца назад +39

      Clickspring kicks ass

    • @duathhadron5040
      @duathhadron5040 2 месяца назад +19

      I was gonna comment this! For anyone who hasn’t seen his videos, I’d highly recommend them!

    • @robwoodring9437
      @robwoodring9437 2 месяца назад +10

      They are addictive!!!

    • @mr_voron
      @mr_voron 2 месяца назад +18

      That series has been going on for 7 years! Granted, he did take a break to publish some research papers on it.

    • @DrFiero
      @DrFiero 2 месяца назад +14

      Even makes his own tools from scratch, using only the known materials of the period.

  • @janetchennault4385
    @janetchennault4385 2 месяца назад +78

    A key observation is that this mechanism did not spring, full grown, from the head of Zeus. It implies decades or centuries of knowledge and experimentation with gears and mechanical devices. There are more of them, out there. Somewhere.

    • @us3rG
      @us3rG 2 месяца назад +3

      The royals in those days knew a LOT. It was how they remained royal. Ever wonder if they had magnifying glass?

    • @balinthehater8205
      @balinthehater8205 2 месяца назад +15

      ​@@us3rG ... Royals? None of the famous Greek philosophers and thinkers were royals to my knowledge. They were often nobility, yes, but that is a given as that status actually frees up time for studying the world. The point is that none of them ruled a city state.

    • @justadad6677
      @justadad6677 2 месяца назад

      @@balinthehater8205 Who is to say this knowlegde were in the hands of the wise ones? Royalty have always learned to keep secrets, from the Sunmerians all the way through the Egyptians. Much of the knowledge was kept for priests and the royal only. Imagne how much the Vatican keeps from Humanity, or the royals of Euroe after they plundered the continent.

    • @catbevis1644
      @catbevis1644 2 месяца назад +7

      Absolutely! One thing that rarely gets mentioned is the gears themselves- producing such fine-toothed, evenly-spaced, interconnecting cogwheels is a skill in itself (in the modern era it held back advances in clockmaking). Whoever made those gears had centuries of knowledge behind them, and I doubt they were invented purely for astronomical devices- there would have been previous uses in simpler devices. Anyone interested in the mechanical geekery, I urge you to look up the movie "Longitude" about the clockmaker John Harrison (available on here), it gives you a real appreciation of just how difficult mechanics were even in the last few hundred years. Retreat those thoughts back two thousand years and it's just mind-blowing.

    • @marcpeterson1092
      @marcpeterson1092 2 месяца назад

      Or there were.

  • @QBCPerdition
    @QBCPerdition 2 месяца назад +24

    As amazing as the Antikythera Mechanism is, it seems to me that it is most likely the end result of iterative invention. A simple invention of a few gears to show the planets in epicycles, refined over time. Then someone decides that they can add another few gears to get the phases of the moon, or maybe a separate device to show the phases of the moon existed, and someone figured out how to combine them. More and more gets added on, and eventually you have a very complex device.
    So I doubt someone invented the whole mechanism from whole cloth. It was a long process, probably of many people, adding something new and refining each bit to be as exact as possible.

    • @feedingravens
      @feedingravens Месяц назад

      I agree that I in no way would say they cannot possibly have done that.
      But that what you say is exactly my problem:
      Engineering is an evolutionary process, it develops step by step.
      And I see no steps.
      You would expect to see examples of sheet metal of the flatness that these gears require.
      You would expect to see super-precise circular cutouts.
      You could expect e.g. mechanical calculators for merchants.
      Or devices to calculate your position for navigation
      Or devices to measure distances
      And and and... Not of the extreme quality like the Anti-Kythera, but nevertheless an "ey, great, we can calculate mechanically, go for it",
      Imagine how tedious it was until VERY recently to determine the values for sine, cosine, tangens. Each single value as series expansion. Every single calculation on (precious) paper by hand.
      In my opinion the Babylonians uses 60 as base because you can divide it by 1,2,3,4,5,6.
      And 360 you can divide by 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9- only 7 is missing.
      A dozen, loved in merchandry, 1,2,3,4,6
      A "shock" (i heard that only from eggs in german) - 12 dozen.
      All traditions from the time when people had to everything with their brains and not with their fingers or by asking Alexa...

    • @QBCPerdition
      @QBCPerdition Месяц назад +1

      @feedingravens but we do find simpler things. And they tended to use these only for religious purposes, and may not have realized the use of these for simple calculations. Plus, the time and effort that went into making these may not have lent itself to massnproduction, only making one or two for important shrines/people.
      So, while they could make thin metal and perfect circles, it was a very tedious exacting practice, so there may not be many examples created, let alone surviving to today.

  • @Shauma_llama
    @Shauma_llama 2 месяца назад +24

    "Who made it?" Did everyone think of that guy with the crazy hair going "Aliens!" 😂

    • @us3rG
      @us3rG 2 месяца назад +3

      Everybody knows him as that guy with the crazy hair lol

    • @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
      @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 2 месяца назад +5

      Aliens would have brought a heliocentric model, though.

    • @gmoney4980
      @gmoney4980 2 месяца назад +3

      A-hem.... I think you mean "Ancient Alien Astronauts".... 😂😂😂

    • @us3rG
      @us3rG 2 месяца назад +1

      @@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 not if they know about the human brain, the human brain at the center of everything

    • @ldubt4494
      @ldubt4494 2 месяца назад

      Yes they obviously came all the way to Earth with interstellar travel just to show humans how to build gears. Because humans are stupid, they wouldnt have known how to do it, they were all cavemen back then. (Sarcasm)

  • @JDubyafoto
    @JDubyafoto 2 месяца назад +6

    There's a chap in Australia who is making an Antikythera Mechanism using brass. He makes all of the plates, gears, screws and other parts by hand. He's got a couple of YT channels showing various steps in the creation of his device. His channel is called ClickSpring and both of his channels are well worth watching.

  • @billthomas7644
    @billthomas7644 2 месяца назад +25

    Not all the ancient Greeks believed in the Geocentric model of the solar system. Aristarchus of Samos was a leading supporter of the Heliocenrtic model

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 2 месяца назад

      Step aside, Copernicus, Aristarchus spoke of it first.

  • @sapphiron21
    @sapphiron21 2 месяца назад +13

    This really make you appreciate the importance of preserving knowledge, so much progress could have been made in the period between the loss of these inventions and their reinvention centuries later

    • @theabristlebroom4378
      @theabristlebroom4378 2 месяца назад +2

      Especially when you realize that the math incorporated into this computer was only possible because the Greeks had access to the observational data from the Babalonian observations of the night sky....over hundreds of years!

    • @barbthegreat586
      @barbthegreat586 2 месяца назад +1

      The most important things are not making the knowledge secret and education, transmission of the knowledge to future generations. Educating everybody and writing down the knowledge help, too.

  • @morrigan908
    @morrigan908 2 месяца назад +46

    From all the comments that feel the need to say it over and over, I'm getting a hunch that Clickspring might be building one. Just a wee, nagging thought in the back of my mind.

    • @peterclancy3653
      @peterclancy3653 2 месяца назад +2

      There is a complete video series of clickspring building this machine by hand using the tools available at the time. Up there with the Samson boat company!

  • @MrMudtit
    @MrMudtit 2 месяца назад +14

    Whoever designed and/or built that must have been a genius off the scale. It's a pity that so much has been lost to time.

  • @abc-coleaks-info3180
    @abc-coleaks-info3180 2 месяца назад +53

    The Clickspring channel is recreating the device using period tools. He is working with another team studying the device. He has 12-videos on it so far but he isn’t done yet.

  • @durk5331
    @durk5331 2 месяца назад +17

    It really makes you wonder just how much was lost every time the Library of Alexandria was burned down x.x

    • @ldubt4494
      @ldubt4494 2 месяца назад

      Nothing, that wasnt when knowledge was lost, it was the early middle ages, when knowledge became a thing of only monasteries and the uppest of upper classes.
      Alexandria wasnt the only place with a library, and there would have been copies of all those books anyway in use everywhere.
      In the early middle ages, which were at different points in time depending on the region, were a period of ignorance, and simpler life, and much of the "unnecesary" old stuff simply found no use to the people and got forgotten or destroyed during the countless wars and raids of that time.

    • @durk5331
      @durk5331 2 месяца назад +8

      ​@@ldubt4494 You do realize that the Library of Alexandria was the greatest of the ancient world and was the most important of most of human history. These are facts. At its peak, before the fire in 48 AD, accidentally started by Ceasar, it contained hundreds of thousands of books, including unique texts from the best Greek scientists through History. Its last burning was only 200 years before the start of the Dark Ages, and you could potentially say, it not being rebuilt after this helped create the decline into the Dark Ages >.>

    • @ldubt4494
      @ldubt4494 2 месяца назад

      @@durk5331 No. ruclips.net/video/yGX0Wr0MYaM/видео.htmlsi=hxixTN6KVPkiLXFV (video by h0ser i just found, no conspiracy or whatnot)

    • @ldubt4494
      @ldubt4494 2 месяца назад

      @@durk5331 No, h0ser for example made a quick video on that. ruclips.net/video/yGX0Wr0MYaM/видео.htmlsi=hxixTN6KVPkiLXFV

    • @ldubt4494
      @ldubt4494 2 месяца назад +1

      @@durk5331 theres a video from h0ser about this.
      The library of alexandria wasnt the only libarary, nor was it as unique as some say. Also it focused on poetry.
      The last burning was with the arab invasion, and this was probably the only one where it was actually bad.

  • @stepheng1523
    @stepheng1523 2 месяца назад +72

    You literally stuck an animated science graphic in your ad, thats commitment to the bit

    • @Hellfr4g
      @Hellfr4g 2 месяца назад

      unfortunately its wrong, there are ways to make the sun last tens of billions of years
      ever heard the term "star lifting"
      no? only because u cannot think of a way, doestn´t mean its impossible... a scientist shouldn´t talk in defintits... humanity has not found a way to travel faster than light or go back in time... most likely its impossible, but u dont know
      there are no black swan, all swans are white.... then ships returned from australia
      do i get a heart too or will this be hidden :D
      or just make a video about star lifting lol

    • @user-rm4ez8pb6x
      @user-rm4ez8pb6x 2 месяца назад +11

      The ad also had a finger bang joke in it. I laughed, but I have a tasteless sense of humor.

    • @mikaylamast4695
      @mikaylamast4695 Месяц назад

      @@user-rm4ez8pb6xI audibly gasped

  • @sockMonster241
    @sockMonster241 2 месяца назад +53

    Imagine making that thing, 1000 years before it's time and then it SINKS INTO THE OCEAN.

    • @us3rG
      @us3rG 2 месяца назад +7

      Someone definitely got punished

    • @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
      @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 2 месяца назад +3

      Could it have been carried on the ship as some sort of navigational aid, when (if it's true) good clocks had not yet appeared?

    • @timewave02012
      @timewave02012 2 месяца назад +13

      What incredible fortune for us that it did. Sometimes the only artifacts preserved are the ones that were lost.

    • @inorogNL
      @inorogNL 2 месяца назад +5

      Imagine all devices that had to be made so one can create this one. Also the tools needed to make such complicated gears...

    • @EBDavis111
      @EBDavis111 2 месяца назад +1

      Imagine making that thing and it doesn't work. No wonder it ended up in the bottom of the ocean.

  • @RealJohnnyAngel
    @RealJohnnyAngel 2 месяца назад +36

    Glad to see all the Clickspring Rep in the comments. Period tools and methods he makes himself to prove it. Going through the process he made some discoveries that have since been published.

    • @markbernier8434
      @markbernier8434 2 месяца назад +4

      Published, peer reviewed, and others have also published work on his discovery. Cited in his most recent video.

  • @Heywoodthepeckerwood
    @Heywoodthepeckerwood 2 месяца назад +30

    Those of us in the Prokythera camp would disagree.

    • @KarlBunker
      @KarlBunker 2 месяца назад +1

      😄👍

    • @Enyavar1
      @Enyavar1 Месяц назад +1

      The counter-island to Andikythira is just called Kythira, n pro is involved.
      It's a common naming scheme, there is also Andikeros, Andimilos, Andiparos, Andipaxos... The "Anti-islands" are always the smaller ones right next to the larger whose name they share.

  • @zombiechicken7114
    @zombiechicken7114 2 месяца назад +3

    I love the mixture of knowledge needed for them to understand this. Greek history generally, Greek gods&beliefs, sites of the olympics, astronomy, maths, engineering etc etc. Fabulous stuff. Then the modern inventions needed to see into the corroded device and rebuild it. I wish we always could all cooperate and expand knowledge instead of petty fighting and arguing over beliefs.

  • @matthewring8301
    @matthewring8301 2 месяца назад +17

    The person that said that it is too complicated and easier methods were possible never thought to put a calculator and a phone and a flashlight in one device.

    • @michab4083
      @michab4083 2 месяца назад +4

      Well, why would anyone want do this? Besides being too complicated and not very useful, such a device would be by far too expensive. I reckon the worldwide market would amount to four or five devices - at maximum. ;-)

    • @bobreams5178
      @bobreams5178 Месяц назад

      Very good point!

    • @moogle68
      @moogle68 25 дней назад

      I get that you're trying to make a joke, but you do understand that they were essentially refuting an earlier theory on the grounds that the same result was achievable with methods and knowledge known to exist at the time, right? Like, they weren't claiming that the device "couldn't be _that_ complicated," just that the _mechanisms_ used inside the machine to make it work likely didn't involve differential gears (which Simon pointed out wouldn't be seen for another 1600 years), but that the device likely used much simpler gearing/mechanisms that were used at the time it was made in other devices to achieve the same effect that a differential gear would've provided.

    • @matthewring8301
      @matthewring8301 24 дня назад

      @@michab4083 yes the “market” would have been for the elite only. In the courts of kings most likely. I was talking about technology and innovation not mass production. We only get to see a slice of history never the whole thing so there could only one of them (a prototype?) or dozens. We will never know the answer to that one. As for why? Because rulers what knowledge. Because people are curious. Because someone said “what happens if I do this thing.” Lastly, the fact that this exists means that there is a chance that the stories of other devices might be true, and that makes me happy.

  • @carcj1983
    @carcj1983 2 месяца назад +30

    CLickspring built it and placed it in the past in the time machine he is yet to build.

  • @ProfVaharrak
    @ProfVaharrak 2 месяца назад +6

    HOLY MOLY IS THAT DAVEN??? Its been years since I last heard the TIFO podcasts but I will never forget that voice.
    So happy to know they're doing well.

  • @FrankOdonnell-ej3hd
    @FrankOdonnell-ej3hd 2 месяца назад +12

    when I first saw this thing I thought it was so cool. It proves once again that the ancients were just as smart as we are despite having much less scientific and technical knowledge. Wonder what new future incredible artifacts we have yet to discover! ⚛😀

    • @yugimotobutjacked3231
      @yugimotobutjacked3231 2 месяца назад +3

      No it doesn't. Read an actual paper on it, even just the wikipedia article. This guy is a charlatan.

    • @FrankOdonnell-ej3hd
      @FrankOdonnell-ej3hd 2 месяца назад

      @@yugimotobutjacked3231 ok will check out the wiki article though it's often not the most reliable source for information about anything. If this machine is just some sort of over-hyped or made up object it's funny how the media keeps talking about its wonders while no one has exposed it as the massive fraud you claim it is.⚛😀

    • @Bell.-
      @Bell.- 2 месяца назад

      ​@@yugimotobutjacked3231You sound dumb.

    • @us3rG
      @us3rG 2 месяца назад

      Especially the Greeks where more wiser than most scientists living today

    • @balinthehater8205
      @balinthehater8205 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@yugimotobutjacked3231 Wikipedia backs up what is stated in the video and Simon cited actual research papers as proof of what he said. The people in the classical era people were a lot more advanced that we give them credit for with their knowledge of mathematics, this and various megaprojects like the pyramids of egypt and greek temples of the Mediterranean coast are surviving proof of that.

  • @justadad6677
    @justadad6677 2 месяца назад +1

    In my Fantasy book the Antikythera Mechanism was used for setting an anchor in time, a magic tool used by the God of Wisdom to extend forward in time, while being anchored to the device. So not a time traveling device, but a device that can rewind time when set and used.

  • @pioneercynthia1
    @pioneercynthia1 2 месяца назад +7

    Antiquities-themed Mad Libs. I'd play the hell out of that.

  • @mister_magister3798
    @mister_magister3798 2 месяца назад +18

    12:13 jumpscare

  • @jbuchana
    @jbuchana 2 месяца назад +18

    Over ont the clickspring RUclips channel, Chris is making a working duplicate of the Antikythera mechanism use period-correct tools. Worth checking out!

  • @PetesGuide
    @PetesGuide 2 месяца назад +35

    Only at 0:25 but I’m really hoping you give a massive shout out to the ClickSpring RUclips channel’s deep hands-on research in building a replica using replica tools that he hand-makes. He’s already published one peer-reviewed paper on the Antikytheria mechanism, and is also from a Commonwealth country.

    • @isoufacker
      @isoufacker 2 месяца назад +5

      clickspring is great

    • @tomlegge4880
      @tomlegge4880 2 месяца назад +3

      Yeah, that project is awesome.

  • @dreamking4321
    @dreamking4321 2 месяца назад +22

    honestly one of the best ad reads ive ever heard lmao

    • @jeffreypeterson8386
      @jeffreypeterson8386 2 месяца назад

      Sorry, who the hell is this guy? Did I miss some announcement where Simon started cooperating with Mr excitement?

    • @semaj_5022
      @semaj_5022 Месяц назад

      @@jeffreypeterson8386 That's Daven! He's been here on this channel from the start. Producing, writing and occasionally hosting. You can always tell if something was written by him because of the existential dread and pessimistic nihilism sprinkled throughout the script. Like this ad read!

  • @rolanddeschain965
    @rolanddeschain965 2 месяца назад +5

    Been following this since it was still an unidentifiable yet interesting blob it's been eye opening to watch the reactions of the archeologists etc.

  • @ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER
    @ZOMBIEHEADSHOTKILLER 2 месяца назад +2

    you forgot to mention that ClickSpring is making one from scratch, by hand, with classic style tools.

  • @jrcat2258
    @jrcat2258 2 месяца назад +13

    I started watching while doing something else and after three minutes I got really confused, I thought I'd clicked on a fishing video... why are ads 2 minutes these days?

    • @joeyr7294
      @joeyr7294 2 месяца назад +2

      Drives me insane!!! I get so annoyed when I'm trying to go to sleep and I'm kinda listening, get good and comfortable.....5 minute ad pops up talking about how to become a self made millionaire. Like, at what point is it no longer a ad but a damn paid programming infomercial like the ones that use to come on after 2am on cable tv lol

    • @philipmcdonagh1094
      @philipmcdonagh1094 2 месяца назад +1

      Their called adumentary's .

    • @judyfps5059
      @judyfps5059 2 месяца назад

      It’s called being a shill with zero integrity. If you wanna watch people with better morals, watch Fact Fiend. They don’t take shitty mobile game sponsorships, and Karl used to write for this channels website.

  • @jimgraham6722
    @jimgraham6722 2 месяца назад +5

    Those of us involved in aviation have been using circular computers since the 1930s

    • @bikerdude923
      @bikerdude923 2 месяца назад

      Bezel slide rules are surprisingly useful, I have one on one of my watches. I also have an actual slide rule that my boss gave me, that one is less useful as it is missing a part, though I plan to fix it soon. Lol

  • @sternencolonel7328
    @sternencolonel7328 2 месяца назад +7

    I have to disagree, there are only 3 Indy Movies

  • @Jesse-zk9ge
    @Jesse-zk9ge 2 месяца назад +8

    Man that mechanism is so astounding. Still kind of hard to believe that thing would be practically the equivalent as if I travel back in time and lost my phone in the ancient past. Amazing.

  • @codedinfortran
    @codedinfortran 2 месяца назад +6

    Hey Simon (& co)
    I've been watching/reading everything I could find about the Antikythera device for years.
    You and your writers do such a good job on topics I know, that it gives you great credibility whenever you're telling me about something new.👍🏻
    And I don't actually care that Simon has forgotten most of it by the time he gets home to his kids.
    One of us learned something new!😉
    Well read, Simon!
    And well written, team.👏🏻

  • @tooturtly
    @tooturtly 2 месяца назад +3

    the attachment fell off the clippers and i buzzed a chunk of hair off.. now we're twins! :)

  • @kandreasworld4374
    @kandreasworld4374 2 месяца назад +3

    There is a subliminal frame of David at 12:10. 🤔

  • @MWhaleK
    @MWhaleK 2 месяца назад +5

    The Greeks or at least some Greeks were aware that the earth goes around the sun and they had roughly calculated the diameter of the earth.

    • @Michael75579
      @Michael75579 2 месяца назад +1

      It's difficult to be sure exactly how accurate Eratosthenes' figure was since we're not sure of the exact size of the units he was using, but on reasonable assumptions for their size he was between -2.4% and +0.8% of the current value. Pretty impressive for a man with a stick 😀

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes 2 месяца назад

      People back then had lots of spare time to stare at the stars and calculate the movements of heavenly bodies. They knew more than we give them credit for. Many of their calendars and astronomical treaties were highly accurate. The Mayans and Chinese also had vast knowledge of these things. Calculating the diameter of the Earth is a fairly trivial thing that you can do with a stick.

  • @usergiodmsilva1983PT
    @usergiodmsilva1983PT 2 месяца назад +3

    2:24 what is best in life? To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their fishing buddies!

  • @xaulted1
    @xaulted1 2 месяца назад +5

    It's truly amazing what a human mind can accomplish when it's not staring blankly at a phone 24/7.

    • @philipmcdonagh1094
      @philipmcdonagh1094 2 месяца назад

      Since the dawn of an the human brain has been getting bigger until lets say 2000. We are now getting stupider by the simple act of not exercising our brains the way we used to. No need to remember anything today, its all in the cloud or on the phone, the simple art of remembering a phone No or an address now gone.

  • @jasonjuneau2948
    @jasonjuneau2948 2 месяца назад +1

    Its crazy that they could build that so long ago. All the engineering and machining that went into it is mind boggling. Pins within grooves within grooves.

  • @Minalkra
    @Minalkra 2 месяца назад +4

    I love the sponsor dude randomly showing up in frames ...

  • @jaymac6041
    @jaymac6041 2 месяца назад +18

    Have a good day everybody and a good weekend

  • @fuffoon
    @fuffoon Месяц назад

    It couldn't make phone calls, crunch numbers, show videos, manage your budget, or the other million things the tablet I'm watching this on. Don't knock the genius of our era. Genius and creativity are growing exponentially

  • @sednavaporeon7226
    @sednavaporeon7226 2 месяца назад +3

    Ad ends around 3:16

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras 2 месяца назад +2

    The fact some one made this and made probably many others is mind blowing. Perhaps this inventor was drown on this ship wreck with his device and had he not may have invented the first computer 2000+ years ago. Its just absolutely insane to wonder.

    • @balinthehater8205
      @balinthehater8205 2 месяца назад +1

      I think it's likely that this isn't a unique piece, this sounds way too important for religious purposes for cultures that think the planets are embodiments of their gods.
      I would hazard a guess that the original crafter crafted a few and maybe trained a few apprentices as things went back then but eventually the knowledge was lost and the fancy mechanisms either sold, lost or smelted down during the troubled times of the region. It has been thousands of years, the fact that we were able to even find one defies the odds, it would be even more ridiculous if it had been unique in its time.

  • @adamloverin4125
    @adamloverin4125 2 месяца назад +2

    19:18 Gloves are cool.

  • @KarlRoyale
    @KarlRoyale 2 месяца назад +2

    The mechanism itself is mind blowing but for me the other aspect that blows my mind is this is PROOF of how little we understand about our history. If we can "forget" knowledge like this what else do we simply have no concept of?

    • @karenshadle365
      @karenshadle365 2 месяца назад +1

      Lots, I would imagine...

    • @iNCoMpeTeNtplAyS
      @iNCoMpeTeNtplAyS Месяц назад

      That's why free public education is important. It would be a shame if the greatest mind ever was some child of a poor farmer who, by birth, has to choose to help the family farm than go to school.

  • @mukulnag1578
    @mukulnag1578 2 месяца назад +1

    Love the surprise at 12:13 .... Didn't expect that 😅😅

  • @stardustypsyche8468
    @stardustypsyche8468 2 месяца назад

    One of your best presentations, packed with very well laid out detail text and animations.

  • @st.anselmsfire3547
    @st.anselmsfire3547 2 месяца назад +1

    Can we take a second and note that a dude built this thing with his bare hands and sketching the numbers on parchment with a reed? No computers. No other devices. Just his brain and skills.

    • @richardhall5489
      @richardhall5489 2 месяца назад

      Surely this is another unprovable assumption. If they could have built this then it might be fair to assume that other similar technology was available.

  • @mikemcconeghy4658
    @mikemcconeghy4658 Месяц назад

    Fascinating! Learned about astronomy and history in this one.

  • @markmuldoon805
    @markmuldoon805 2 месяца назад

    Brilliant presentation of the history of what should be regarded as the most amazing analogue computers of all time.

  • @bobbressi5414
    @bobbressi5414 2 месяца назад +1

    I have seen numerous pictures of this device and l am still perplexed by how they were able to extrapolate what all of the missing parts were and what they do based on the hunk of metal that they found.

    • @bikerdude923
      @bikerdude923 2 месяца назад +1

      Math, lots and lots of math. They probably also engaged to some level automatic/mechanical watch makers as many of the gearing principles are very similar to what is still used today for some watch complications.
      Complications are the extra functions that a mechanical clock might have, such as 24hr hands, day, date, month, year, leap year, moonphases, alarms, zodiac calenders (rare and very expensive), chronographs, chronograph totalizers (tracks, fractions of seconds, min, and hours, for the chronograph), main spring power reserves, and many others I am forgetting.

    • @jliller
      @jliller 2 месяца назад +1

      @@bikerdude923 Probably testing and discarding a lot of failed theories too.

  • @akrita81
    @akrita81 2 месяца назад +3

    I am trying to imagine Archimides reaction to Flat Earthers.

  • @Astrologon
    @Astrologon 2 месяца назад

    Great summary of the facts, it's just strange to me from a scholarly perspective that literally no one who has studied this artifact or reported on it in official capacity has ever even mentioned the word "astrology", which almost certainly must have had a lot to do with the purpose of such a device. After all, the ancients didn't need calculations this precise for just determining when to have holidays, and they obviously had no space program.

  • @playgroundchooser
    @playgroundchooser 2 месяца назад

    It's been mentioned, but a channel named Clickspring is building his own mechanisms. And, he's only using methods that were available to builders of the time. It's absolutely fascinating!!

  • @michaeljames5936
    @michaeljames5936 2 месяца назад

    The lack of an industrial revolution in ancient Greece, is a great example of the importance of materials science. Without the means to produce quality steel, just inventing the steam engine (as they sort-of did.) couldn't go anywhere, same for railways. Apparently the printing press couldn't have been created successfully by the Romans, or Greeks, or indeed Chinese, because it relied on the latest breakthroughs in steel manufacture to produce a typeface that would keep its crisp edges after repeated use.

  • @mcerruti77
    @mcerruti77 2 месяца назад +2

    16:07... Wth. 1 frame...

  • @avishai7830
    @avishai7830 2 месяца назад +8

    @clickspring is making a copy using original manufacturing methods!

    • @Tophperry
      @Tophperry 2 месяца назад +1

      Came here to say the same thing. It's pretty interesting.

  • @Fleato
    @Fleato Месяц назад

    It’s always my favorite when they see something like this and go “look they had giant clocks mechanisms, they were more advanced than us!” Yup…. We don’t have clockwork.

    • @semaj_5022
      @semaj_5022 Месяц назад

      The sentiment is generally "they were more advanced than we give them credit for," not "they were more advanced than us." People underestimate ancient/bronze age humanity, which is sad. We'd have nothing today if it weren't for the innovations of bygone eras.

  • @darubicon1501
    @darubicon1501 2 месяца назад

    About four years ago I found an accurate full motion GIF of the first year cycle of the mechanism. I downloaded it and used it as a face for my smartwatch, but I still need to check my phone for the time and date!

  • @ConorFenlon
    @ConorFenlon Месяц назад

    What if Clickspring Chris is a time traveler, and he knows so much about the mechanism because he made the only one, right in front of our eyes, and then he eventually sends it back knowing full well that he'll figure it out in tune future.

  • @robert.adamek
    @robert.adamek 2 месяца назад +2

    Indiana Jorrnes lol never gets old with those intrusive R’s

  • @raydunn2688
    @raydunn2688 2 месяца назад

    Excellent summary of decoding to date of this incredible artifact.

  • @pirobot668beta
    @pirobot668beta 2 месяца назад

    I got into 3d-printing to make one of these things.
    Sorry to be the one to tell y'all; it's a cross between mechanical 'Advent Calendar' and clock.
    It predicts the movement of the Moon and planets (using circular orbits, wrong) and keeps track of Olympic Games.
    It has to be set to a specific date: it has an 80 year 'window' where the predictions are fairly close.
    Outside of that window, the predictions 'drift' badly.
    80 years of accuracy? Might as well been a life-time!
    Not a computer, not alien... a fancy clock for wealthy patrons.

  • @jvin248
    @jvin248 2 месяца назад +1

    If the wreck was full of statues and artwork destined for a wealthy collector .. an antique historical measurement device should also be included in such a collection. The Antikythera Mechanism is likely very much older than the ship era. .. There is a reason ancient cultures were so very interested in tracking the moon and planets accurately, just like we have the NOAA Space Weather Enthusiasts site that tracks Solar activity -- there is danger up there. Ref Carrington Event, Younger Dryas, Micronova. .. Would the Antikythera Mechansim fit in a "handbag" like that depicted on monuments around the globe?

  • @MusicalRaichu
    @MusicalRaichu 2 месяца назад

    Allan Bromley did his research in the 1980s, not "the early 1900s". He was one of my university professors here in Australia. I helped translate a letter he received from Greece about his itinerary there.

  • @rayfunk5659
    @rayfunk5659 2 месяца назад +1

    Fishing Clash commercial was interrupted by RUclips commercials. Guess it was inevitable.

  • @scottmccrea1873
    @scottmccrea1873 Месяц назад

    This is astonishingly astonishing. It makes you wonder what else they'd invented that, somehow, no one ever even thought to implement on a larger scale. Think of Hiero's steam engines. I understand that they didn't have the metallurgy to fully exploit this at scale, but they don't seem to have even tried. That's just odd to me and the spirit of the modern age. Are question is, Why didn't you? When they don't appear to have even asked the question. And perhaps it was just that accident that no one came along who said, "Hey, what if we took this and did..."

  • @zollen123
    @zollen123 2 месяца назад

    I am equally shocked the ancient Greeks didn't apply the knowledge of this mechanism and this level of engineering to other areas of developments in their society.

  • @paulromsky9527
    @paulromsky9527 Месяц назад

    At 7:48 in the US, we pronounce "sidereal" as Si-deer'-e-al

  • @h-j.k.8971
    @h-j.k.8971 2 месяца назад

    A huge amount of knoweledge has been lost to mankind, today we view someone who builds a mere recreation of this as a genious.

  • @chrislong3938
    @chrislong3938 2 месяца назад

    There were either a bunch of these things built around that time or it was the most extreme bit of luck to find!
    It is also odd to me that similar, but less ingenious devices haven't been found anywhere!
    Astrolabes as ingenious as those were, had few if any moving parts!
    I could see someone like Heron (Hero) building something like this but I think this was way after his time. He was certainly smart enough!

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um 2 месяца назад

    On 8 February 2024, a 10X scale replica of the mechanism was built, installed, and inaugurated at the University of Sonora in Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico. With the name of Monumental Antikythera Mechanism for Hermosillo (MAMH), Dr. Alfonso performed the inauguration. Durazo Montano, Governor of Sonora and Dr. Maria Rita Plancarte Martinez, Chancellor of the Universidad de Sonora. The Ambassador of Greece, Mr. Nikoloas Koutrokois, and a delegation from the Embassy.

  • @Baldevi
    @Baldevi 2 месяца назад

    Hi Daven! 👋
    I love this video, I've been trying to convince a few lazy people that the Antikythera Mechanism is simply a Calendar-Caluclator and Planetarium-type device. They are ALL wanting to research how it can move them through Time, because the Movie claims that this is what it is for. Come ON.
    Sharing to them ALL.

  • @DILFDylF
    @DILFDylF 2 месяца назад +1

    Not even 10 minutes in and my eyes are already completely glazed over and I don't understand anything

  • @TheBS1000
    @TheBS1000 2 месяца назад

    12:13 that split second reappearance of the guy who did the ad spot was creepy.

  • @erikkornfeld785
    @erikkornfeld785 2 месяца назад

    Did anyone else wonder what he was on about about halfway through the ad read for Fishing clash? I'm treating this as a podcast while I am doing chores and it got weird.

  • @steve4296fred
    @steve4296fred 2 месяца назад

    Saw this in the museum in Athens a few years back - quite mind blowing when I saw it

  • @Nomad77ca
    @Nomad77ca Месяц назад

    I always imagine an ancient Greek or Roman watching one of our documentaries about them and saying "No, we knew that, how dumb do you think we were??"

  • @ADHD.Penguin
    @ADHD.Penguin 2 месяца назад

    Most abrasive ad read transition 😂 trying to fall asleep to Simon's consistent narration not whatever that fishing app ad was

  • @justme_gb
    @justme_gb 2 месяца назад +9

    And thus we get the machine from the island Myst...

  • @AmosS
    @AmosS 2 месяца назад

    1. I think that the Hijra (Muslim) calendar doesn't use the metonic cycle, that's the reason that the Ramadan keeps shifting around the season's every year - because it doesn't compensate for the ~11 days difference between the lunar and solar years.
    2. In the quote of the letter from Cicero there is a typo - it reads "gloves" instead of "globe"

  • @Illucient
    @Illucient 4 дня назад

    I wonder what progress wouldve been made if it hadnt been lost for so long,l ike if an earlier civlization had found it and used it to develop gear train way early on. Wild what ifs outta this

  • @fullspectrumalchemist
    @fullspectrumalchemist 2 месяца назад

    I had a dream of testing that mechanism with beetle technology (cavity Structural effect) time dilation based of the spectrum interaction or reduction of interaction of the molecules that make us up. Theory is Zeus and Hermes and all used it to fly and change time with in radius and would explain what they defined as under world 😉

  • @ShakerCheeseIsRite
    @ShakerCheeseIsRite 2 месяца назад

    I don't mean to "um akshually" an ad read, but it is hypothetically possible to siphon off energy from the sun with a Dyson construct, which could potentially prevent it from expanding as far during its red giant phase

    • @philipmcdonagh1094
      @philipmcdonagh1094 2 месяца назад

      You would probably need the entire natural resources of several solar systems planets to build a Dyson sphere. To siphon energy from the sun would speed up it becoming a red giant. I starts becoming a red giant as a result of running out of fuel.

  • @LadyValkyri
    @LadyValkyri 2 месяца назад

    I've been waiting for this one for a while now. Thanks, guys! Hugs

  • @SidecarBob
    @SidecarBob 2 месяца назад

    The sound problem is definitely in Simon's mic or the equipment used to record him because it wasn't present during the fishing advertisement. It sounds like really bad clipping. PLEASE FIX THIS

  • @mymanmiles393
    @mymanmiles393 Месяц назад

    hol up. your telling me this thing was studied since the spring of 1900, and then one day in the 1990's, some random curator just stumbled across a lost box full of fragments from it that had just never been accounted for over in the storage area?

  • @BoDiddle-ik1cg
    @BoDiddle-ik1cg 2 месяца назад

    Best in vid ad I've seen in memory.

  • @bonibroco1076
    @bonibroco1076 2 месяца назад

    7:44 "Sidereal" ...I've heard it mispronounced so many times but I never expected Simon to get it wrong too.

  • @alfredogonzalez1280
    @alfredogonzalez1280 Месяц назад

    My hypothesis is that the mathematical and metallurgical knowledge could most likely only come from Alexandria's library. It was full of experts that would not only store knowledge but research and build things. Humanity lost millenia of knowledge with the decay and final burning of that library.

  • @trien30
    @trien30 2 месяца назад

    Metonic cycle, adding 7 leap years every 19 years, was used by Chinese, Jewish and Babylonians but the Muslim calendar never used the Metonic cycle, so the seasons are out of whack every so often and the date of Ramadan ranged from April to September on the Gregorian calendar.

  • @kaldo_kaldo
    @kaldo_kaldo 2 месяца назад

    The Antikythera Mechanism is used to predict when Simon will release videos on the Antikythera Mechanism.

  • @whafrog
    @whafrog 2 месяца назад

    Just building the moulds to get the gears right and so precisely and evenly spaced is a marvel in its own right.

    • @frankieromnimon5898
      @frankieromnimon5898 2 месяца назад +1

      Actually, the gear teeth were hand-cut using thin steel files. The maker was starting from circular blanks made of brass sheet. I kid you not.

    • @whafrog
      @whafrog 2 месяца назад

      @@frankieromnimon5898 that is crazy to contemplate...imagine going around the circle and realizing you've left the tiniest gap...