Guy, you are (and have been for some time now) my best source for all watch talk! You're doing a fantastic job.....nobody goes into quite as much detail as you, you seem to touch on all the points us watch guys want to know. I can only say, keep up the good work and I really look forward to your future content. 👍
Just got my new Speedmaster today. I was able to size the bracelet without having to heat up the screws. There was thread locker on the screws, but they loosened up fine. They do need to make this bracelet more micro adjust friendly, and I may go the new clasp route. I did have a Mark II a while back, and that clasp is awesome. My most pressing dilemma now is how to smuggle in the Speedmaster box into the house from the trunk of my car without my wife noticing it. That box is ridiculous.
I never needed to heat the screws when I size these new Omega bracelets in fact I just sized one yesterday for a customer a Speed Master but it was not the Hesalite version which I've done many. The head of the screw has enough surface area in the slot that you can get enough torque on them to break through the thread locker, but one time Omega went to town on one and I soaked the screws in solution that I use to clean watch parts for 10 minutes or so and tried and again and it was broken loose. Same solution I use to loosen the screw out bolt pins on Rolex's when they are too tight. Would not recommend heating because you can singe the side of the links and it burns it blue and you have to polish the link to get it off. What I like to use is a watch anvil that I cover with a cotton polishing cloth so no metal to metal contact on a nice and hard flat surface. Then I use a Bergeon 2mm screw driver they cost only 10 bucks and you can sharpen them they are the best you can get. Once the screws are out I put them in a cover tray so you don't lose them along with the pins which you can push out with a long watch punch by hand no hammering needed. Using a visor or a watch loop which I wear is a must so that you can see what you are doing and I have excellent up close vision. Don't like to use tweezers too much, I prefer the rodico clay no chance of the screws going flying and has just enough friction to re-install them and hold them as I apply the purple thread locker. With out applying thread locker those link screws will come out eventually. Would recommend letting it dry over night up to 24 hours before wearing the watch again.
Thanks Guy - yes, I was concerned about the bracelet. Not because of the lack of micro adjust, although now that I see that on your video that is unfortunate. But for me my wrist tends to swell a good bit throughout the day. I cannot deal with a bracelet that is too tight, yet at the same time I hate it when the watch bounces around. Even if the micro adjust is dialed in perfectly for me, that will likely change throughout the day due to swelling. The fact that you can adjust this clasp “on the fly” throughout the day makes all the difference in the world to me.
This clasp is a must have in my opinion. I have let it in or out a click several times already just depending on the state of my wrist. Super easy to do on the fly.
Hey Guy, congrats on the speedmaster! I bought mine about a year ago as my first luxury watch purchase and I'm glad I did. It really is an awesome watch. The bracelet is pretty nice, but one of the things that I like most about the watch is that it looks great on so many different types of straps. I usually wear mine on a nice handmade horween leather strap that is black with white stitching. It looks fantastic I think. I also wear it on different natos from time to time. I'm currently saving for my next purchase which will be a ceramic no date submariner. It's going to take a while but it'll be worth it. Then I see myself finishing off the collection one day with a Grand Seiko for my dress watch. Anyway, congrats again on the speedy, hope you enjoy it for years to come.
Thanks JB. I’ll probably try it out on different straps eventually but I’m mostly a bracelet kind of guy and had to be sure to have that squared away before anything else.
Speedy sub and Reverso is my dream 3 piece collection. But the truth is as soon as I get close my taste will probably move to a patek annual calendar 😂
I love your channel! I also agree that lack of, easy, on the fly micro adjustment is unacceptable for a watch of this price. I'm glad you were able to sort it out but im really baffled by the fact that Omega does not ship these watches like this out of the factory.
The Omega Adjustable Clasp I added to my 2254.50 SMP has been perfect and didn't require any additional OEM Omega parts. I used a cheap Chinese watch repair kit with multiple size pin pushers, a jewelers block, and an illuminated jewelers loupe I had at hand. 15 minutes max. That clasp is a huge improvement.
I just want to thank you for the video, i order the parts from omega boutique, install the clasp and the end links and now have a perfect fit, it was a real issue for me, now i have a perfect fit with the modification of the clasp, its worth it!!!
As for the look, I think the new clasp looks great and I love that functionality. Even as detail-oriented as I am, I wouldn't be bothered by those end links since they are just about always pretty subdued on the bottom of the wrist. Good job!
“A lot of people” said you could get an adjustable clasp? I thought I was the only one. Seriously though it’s definitely worth every penny. Not sure I could buy an expensive watch without a micro adjustment at this point. For others considering this I ordered the parts through my AD and they put it on for me in about 10 minutes. Guess it depends on if you trust your AD. Wear it in good health as they say.
I think 4 or 5 might have suggested it, but you may have been first if that’s any consolation! And ya I didn’t trust them to do a better job than I could.
Congratulations on the Speedy, Guy! I really need this for my Seamaster Pro bracelet. If I take out a link, it’s way too tight and if I put the link back in , it’s too loose. My Speedmaster bracelet fits perfectly, however. Enjoy the Speedy, it’s a great watch. Along with your Sub, you have two of the most iconic watches out there !
Not sure why I waited so long but ordered this clasp and links today. Cost me £300 from London omega boutique and they were really friendly but assured me they would not fit the part or guarantee it, as it’s not meant for this watch. I already have a Mitsukoshi dial and hands on mine... so the warranty ship has sailed long ago! Not sure how long it will take to arrive but hopefully a week or so she said. I actually prefer the look of the clasp with the polished bevelled edges and it’s longer length. It was more expensive than when you got it- I guess more people are doing it and omega put their prices up regularly (I paid £2700 for the speedy pro in 2018- it’s now £4200 rrp) Anyway- £300/$330 all in, not so bad for how much more wearable the watch will be. I could probably sell my old clasp for £100+ on eBay
For those worried about water rating I wash mine with dish soap under the kitchen sink all the time. Here’s a couple tips. One, always hold it crown side down when holding it under the faucet. Also you don’t need too much water pressure, just a steady stream will do. Second, after washing or anytime it gets wet the water can sit in the crevices under the buttons. It can literally sit there for several hours. If you push one of the buttons before it dries the water will go straight into the case. Always make sure there’s no water under the buttons before pushing if the watch was wet recently.
I did the same and added the new clasp on my smpc. Just remember to keep the original clasp because Omega want service and the warranty doesnt work if you send the watch to omega with the glidelock.
Do you have direct experience or evidence of Omega refusing to service a watch with an authentic Omega clasp other than the original that came on the watch? Just curious.
Glad you liked the mod. Myself, I went for the smaller PO 39.5mm clasp. Only three adjustment positions, but that's enough for me and it means the clasp has a smaller footprint than the 6-position one.
Thomas, did you need to get the end links for the smaller clasp? And do you have the part number for the PO clasp? I am also am having a hard time getting a good fit on my Speedmaster, but this new clasp looks a little big for my liking. How it the PO clasp working out for you?
I can answer this. The '4666' clasp is similar to this one but is much shorter and has just 3 micro-adjust positions. I've got one on my Speedy and now it fits perfectly! I recommend highly. You'll still need new endlinks though, just like the clasp in the video.
That is exactly the solution I was thinking of. Thanks for trying it out and making a video of it. I'm glad, that in my case, the bracelet fits well. I agree, Omega should (have) add(ed) this feature to the normal bracelet. Cheers from Switzerland
This clasp seems to be a new standard issue now. I’ve Just had an insurance replacement and it came with a screw bracelet and micro adjust clasp. Much better than my original
Guess I was lucky. After removing one link my Speedy fit me perfectly. Now, my Seamaster was another story. Just as you mentioned, it was too tight or too loose. I had to install half link to get that comfortable fit.
I was told in the boutique to use a lighter as I’d taken it in to them to size after buying online (with 30% off from grey market dealer 😂). They were really helpful in the regent st London OB and sized it with a free coffee and explained that the glue holding them in would be loosened by a lighter flame and any marks would wipe off
Not sure yet...got diagnosed with MS and lost part of my left hand, so the future's a little in flux at the moment.. MRI's and stuff going on lately.. however my pre-ordered Seiko Jade Monster just showed up today if you're interested in reviewing it...
Im a bit confused..my speedmaster came with bracelet and leather and natos..but my bracelet seems different...it has pins not screws from what i can see...and 3 micro adjust positions....it all came from an AD with remaining omega warrenty...do you know if this is ok..are the newer ones all screws.....my watch was made in 2016 sold in 2017??
I don’t know when they changed over to the bracelet and clasp like I have, probably at the same time as they put it I. The giant display box if I was gonna guess. But yeah I think not too long ago it was a pin style like yours.
@@JustBlueFish yeah looked at a few vids it all seems ok...but i have the giant display box etc ....glad you went for it in the end its a great watch..the other problem you had with winding the crown is easily fixed by flipping the watch over then you can get your thumb more on the winder....must say i still cant get used to winding a watch though.....but i suppose its part of the charm.... It looks great on leather band as well...ive got the normal one but im thinking of putting it on a mustard yellow alligator...maybe... Hope you enjoy your watch...thanks for getting back to me😁😁🖐🖐
Very informative video. However, I believe you currently have the wrong end-link on the speedmaster. I recently went through the upgrade, and was directed to the end-link that is in this video. Noticed the fit was not fluid. Spoke to a manager at the KOP Omega boutique, and was told there is a Speedmaster end-link, and a Seamaster endlink. What you have is the Seamaster end-link. The manager installed the new part (Speedmaster endlink), and the fit was flawless. There were no jagged edges, it was slightly curved, and much shorter. I hope this post help others that are considering the upgrade.
I was surprised you went with the Speedmaster after you said that you do not want to tamper with the original bracelet. Instead I thought you would have bought the Tudor after you gave it such a good review. At any rate, I look forward to the full review - I am looking to buy a new watch this fall, and I am not sure if I want to get an Nomos Club/Tangente/Orion to accompany my Sinn 104, or I could sell the Sinn and get an Speedmaster or an Tudor Black Bay 36/GMT.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews Nice to hear that you like the watch. If I end up going with the Speedmaster I would probably end up changing the clasp as well, because where I live the winters are cold and summers are warm, so changing the length of the bracelet on the go is a necessity.
@@JustBlueFish yea man, I called a jeweler from whom someone on the forums got his clasp & links, $240 for the clasp, $50 per link. Thinking this must be a store markup, I reached out to my local Omega boutique and they hit me with the same price. Maybe you got a customer loyalty discount since you bought your speedy from them?
Did you consider buying an original used Omega half-link for the original bracelet on ebay? It's like adding another 2-3 micro-adjust holes to the original clasp, much less expensive, and keeps the watch original. My 2254 with original bracelet has one.
I really don't know what to say. You must be in love with that watch. Omega obviously knows about the problem.This is not a new design. I guess as long as people keep buying the watch as is, then fork over a couple hundred more for their better clasp, why improve the design. Any way, congrats on the new speedy.
I don’t think it’s that cut and dry. They could just put the new clasp on the watch by default and raise the price, saving people the hassle of doing it after the fact. I mean they put the watch in a bigger box and raised the price, so it’s not like they shy away from that sort of thing. I don’t know why they don’t do it, but I don’t think it’s any sort of scheme to get people to buy the clasp later. Perhaps they just want the watch to be more traditional and traditionally it didn’t come with what would be described as a dive watch clasp?
Hi Guy. Not quite what l meant. You said yourself at the end of the video come on Omega get with it, but if you buy the watch and the clasp they win twice. Three times actually, they don't have to innovate. Comfort trumps tradition always. That type of clasp will soon be available on all watches sold with a bracelet. Have a lot of fun with the new watch. Companies will only change if you hit them in the wallet.
it was problem for me for quite a number of Omega watches. When I reacquire a Speedy Pro I will have to look into this. The one I had before I just left it on strap....
This was an awesome upgrade until Omega jacked the price up on the clasp and endlinks. If you want to do this in 2021 it's going to run you about $450.
My AD tried to order the parts from Omega, but Omega refused to send them as I couldn't quote the relevant Seamaster bracelet part number. Now I have to go personally to the AD and check if they have the Seamaster with that clasp, and quote that number... bummer...
So, I tried to do this and wanted to order the parts. Omega straight up refused to sell me these parts because that would change the face of the speedmaster the way it was designed to be and they wouldn't allow that. I'm so put off Omega now that I am seriously contemplating selling the speedmaster and never getting another Omega. The arrogance of plain out ignoring me as a customer is laughable.
Hey Guy, seems like you've had the Speedmaster for quite some time and it appears that you are going to keep it. Could you do a full review on the watch and the accuracy? Thanks in advance!
That seems to be a perennial and perverse problem with expensive purchases. You should not have to risk damaging a new Wath using heat on it and without the expertise or Omega tools. The Rolex AD showroom manager who took a link out of my GMT-Master II used their official Rolex supplied tool box with colour coded intercchangable screw heads for around 3 different torque set screwdriver bodies. He said he used 'super-glue' cyano acrylate and I wasn't happy as you will shear off the head unscrewing it. They sometimes supply a solution which dissolves the bond, which is acetone or nail varnish remover. I think they should use grease instead, which enables a screw thread to hold the torque you put in. The GMT-Master II Easylink clasp is narrower and shorter than the Glide lock on your Submariner and makes it more comfortable to wear as it doesn't affect the flexibility of the bracelet as you have more links in. You could try an engineering shop to get someone to accurately mark the original clasp and drill several additional holes, otherwise it's like the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms you reviewed, you get it on the sail cloth strap with pin buckle.
Thanks for watching Andrew I appreciate it. I’m sure I could have asked the dealer to install the new clasp but honestly I was confident I could do a better job without scratching the watch or messing up any screws.
I think in the same way that the planet ocean clasp can be used some of the half links from other watches will fit but may not fully match. Omega staff will always dissuade anyone from using “franken parts” or may not know. But either way I’d rather have the adjustable clasp
Hi - Is this available for my Seamaster 2264.50.00? It was made in 2006 but has a Speedmaster style bracelet but with pins, not screws. There no adjustment at all on the clasp, but the bracelet came with a half link. I, like you found it is too tight especially when its hot or humid outside but too loose if I put the half link in. I currently have 6 links on 1 side and 5 on the other.
For anyone wondering what pricing looks like these days for the parts...it has certainly come up. Just got off phone with my OB. Clasp- 117STZ001154 $260.XX 118ST1589- $52.XX So roughly around $365.00 to get an adjustable bracelet on your Speedmaster. Give the cost of the watch, I don't think it's too hateful. Just ordered the parts from local OB. Can't wait to get a perfect fitting bracelet! Also for anyone wondering. I have a roughly 8-8.25" wrist. Every link installed & clasp fully extended. The watch fits, however it's a little snug & I know in the heat when sweating it will be very snug. So this modification I feel very worth it IMO. Watch- 1861 Speedmaster Professional in Hesalite.
Has anybody tried other Omega clasps with micro adjustments that will help with this problem? This clasp looks a little too big for my liking. Just wondering if there are other viable options before I go ahead with this conversion. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks
That is a smaller version of this with 3 adjustment points instead of 6 like the one I bought that you could look into. I don't know the part number of that clasp.
Fish, just a quick update. I went ahead and did the conversion with the 3 adjustment clasp, unfortunately fit is still not perfect. Not sure if I will try the 6 adjustment clasp (I know that would solve the problem) but I have very small writs and that clasp would eat up most of the bracelet. Wish Omega would come out with half link for this bracelet. Will have to give this some thought, total BS that Omega cant make a clasp with enough micro-adjustments. The good news is that the Speedy looks great on a black leather racing strap that I picked up. Thanks again for the info.@@JustBlueFish
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews For me, it's the overall presentation and aesthetics of the watch itself. I like your Submariner much better. I don't hate the Speedmaster, but I'd rather get a nice Tissot.
I thought of trying the shorter version but if I’m not mistaken that one only has 3 points of adjustment. I think if the standard 2 points on the default clasp isn’t enough 1 extra position might not help.
On their website Omega states that it should be in a range of -1 to +11 seconds per day. I haven't had mine long enough to test it thoroughly but it seems to be well within that range so far.
In Berlin, Germany I cannot buy this clap neither from an AD or official Omega Boutique. The Boutique only offers me the Micro adjustment clasp from the Speedmaster Apollo 17 version which only has 3 holes. They charge 225€ for it. Anyone has experience with the smaller micro adjustment clasp, is it enough?
Watches & BBQ 6. It is quite a bit bigger than the original clasp. I’m not sure if I like it that much because of the size to be honest. It depends on personal taste. I’ll keep it on for a few days and if I still cannot get used to it I may have to give it back or sell it.
@@MrRealstanley Thanks. I'm also still a bit torn between this and the smaller 3 adjustment one. Then I'm not sure if 3 holes are sufficient. Would be nice if you could share your final thoughts. Can you tell which boutique in Frankfurt it was?
Am I the only one who thinks that the new bracelet is absolutely horrific? Never mind the lack of micro adjustment, the bracelet screws are completely retarded. #epicfail
What a performance to just get the right fit. A total disgrace. Why not incorporate 3 or 4 micro adjustments ? Any 10 dollar watch has the pinholes, but no not Omega. I have a Seamaster without any micro adjustments. Luckily there are some half links, but the performance when after a long warm day the watch is too tight. Yes you have a divers extension, but who is using that? Who is diving with a 4000 dollar watch? Be practical Omega, please.....
My name is Fred Gordon Herbert, and I go by Fred Herbert. But some people would go by Gordon, let's say, even though it's their middle name... y'know? I'm seventy two yearsh old, and I've... I've f%%%ed up every relationship I've ever had. It'sh ruining my life
Purchased one... not impressed - to be brutally honest it was a piece of shit. New watch. Speck on the dial, movement issues (intermittently stopped) Omega service butchered the lugs and scratched the case and refused to repair. Sold it for an enormous loss back to the dealer. Never again and I wouldn't recommend you purchase one.
It was. I was so bummed after I was initially very excited about the watch. The movement issues were not resolved after two trips to service. Not meaning to poop on your watch and I think your reviews and attention to detail is outstanding. Please keep the videos coming.
Oh... Nah dude. I'm sorry I may be anal but no that just won't do thousands of dollars on such a wonderful time piece and it couldn't even get the end links correct. I may be wrong here but to me that just screams out I don't care I'm going to just make it to sell it.
Guy, you are (and have been for some time now) my best source for all watch talk! You're doing a fantastic job.....nobody goes into quite as much detail as you, you seem to touch on all the points us watch guys want to know. I can only say, keep up the good work and I really look forward to your future content. 👍
Thanks James I appreciate that.
Just got my new Speedmaster today. I was able to size the bracelet without having to heat up the screws. There was thread locker on the screws, but they loosened up fine. They do need to make this bracelet more micro adjust friendly, and I may go the new clasp route. I did have a Mark II a while back, and that clasp is awesome. My most pressing dilemma now is how to smuggle in the Speedmaster box into the house from the trunk of my car without my wife noticing it. That box is ridiculous.
Haha good luck hiding the box. I guess you can tell her you bought new luggage.
I never needed to heat the screws when I size these new Omega bracelets in fact I just sized one yesterday for a customer a Speed Master but it was not the Hesalite version which I've done many.
The head of the screw has enough surface area in the slot that you can get enough torque on them to break through the thread locker, but one time Omega went to town on one and I soaked the screws in solution that I use to clean watch parts for 10 minutes or so and tried and again and it was broken loose.
Same solution I use to loosen the screw out bolt pins on Rolex's when they are too tight. Would not recommend heating because you can singe the side of the links and it burns it blue and you have to polish the link to get it off.
What I like to use is a watch anvil that I cover with a cotton polishing cloth so no metal to metal contact on a nice and hard flat surface. Then I use a Bergeon 2mm screw driver they cost only 10 bucks and you can sharpen them they are the best you can get. Once the screws are out I put them in a cover tray so you don't lose them along with the pins which you can push out with a long watch punch by hand no hammering needed. Using a visor or a watch loop which I wear is a must so that you can see what you are doing and I have excellent up close vision.
Don't like to use tweezers too much, I prefer the rodico clay no chance of the screws going flying and has just enough friction to re-install them and hold them as I apply the purple thread locker. With out applying thread locker those link screws will come out eventually. Would recommend letting it dry over night up to 24 hours before wearing the watch again.
Thanks for watching and sharing your tips.
Drop the bracelet in a cup of boiling water. Easy!
Thanks Guy - yes, I was concerned about the bracelet. Not because of the lack of micro adjust, although now that I see that on your video that is unfortunate. But for me my wrist tends to swell a good bit throughout the day. I cannot deal with a bracelet that is too tight, yet at the same time I hate it when the watch bounces around. Even if the micro adjust is dialed in perfectly for me, that will likely change throughout the day due to swelling. The fact that you can adjust this clasp “on the fly” throughout the day makes all the difference in the world to me.
This clasp is a must have in my opinion. I have let it in or out a click several times already just depending on the state of my wrist. Super easy to do on the fly.
Hey Guy, congrats on the speedmaster! I bought mine about a year ago as my first luxury watch purchase and I'm glad I did. It really is an awesome watch. The bracelet is pretty nice, but one of the things that I like most about the watch is that it looks great on so many different types of straps. I usually wear mine on a nice handmade horween leather strap that is black with white stitching. It looks fantastic I think. I also wear it on different natos from time to time. I'm currently saving for my next purchase which will be a ceramic no date submariner. It's going to take a while but it'll be worth it. Then I see myself finishing off the collection one day with a Grand Seiko for my dress watch. Anyway, congrats again on the speedy, hope you enjoy it for years to come.
Thanks JB. I’ll probably try it out on different straps eventually but I’m mostly a bracelet kind of guy and had to be sure to have that squared away before anything else.
Speedy sub and Reverso is my dream 3 piece collection. But the truth is as soon as I get close my taste will probably move to a patek annual calendar 😂
Asked my AD and was told this was impossible. Great video
I love your channel!
I also agree that lack of, easy, on the fly micro adjustment is unacceptable for a watch of this price. I'm glad you were able to sort it out but im really baffled by the fact that Omega does not ship these watches like this out of the factory.
The Omega Adjustable Clasp I added to my 2254.50 SMP has been perfect and didn't require any additional OEM Omega parts. I used a cheap Chinese watch repair kit with multiple size pin pushers, a jewelers block, and an illuminated jewelers loupe I had at hand. 15 minutes max. That clasp is a huge improvement.
Hi can I ask about your adjustment please?
@@anthonyonline4740 Sure.
@@dmlchannel3262 thanks. You needed end links I imagine?
I just want to thank you for the video, i order the parts from omega boutique, install the clasp and the end links and now have a perfect fit, it was a real issue for me, now i have a perfect fit with the modification of the clasp, its worth it!!!
Glad the new clasp worked out for you. It made a huge difference for me.
@@JustBlueFish yessss for me too, and its so easy to use the new clasp, its tottaly worth it !!
As for the look, I think the new clasp looks great and I love that functionality. Even as detail-oriented as I am, I wouldn't be bothered by those end links since they are just about always pretty subdued on the bottom of the wrist. Good job!
Thanks for watching I appreciate it. The end links aren’t a big deal, still it would be nice if they matched up perfectly.
Nice conversion, glad you pulled the trigger on a nice historic piece.
Thanks Dan, then clasp upgrade is a must have. Stay tuned for the full review of the watch.
The red loctite is all i use on car parts. Gotta love that you need a impact to bust bolts loose, cause they aint comin out runnin down the highway
Lol sounds about right.
Thanks for the review Guy. I put this same clasp in my Seamaster Pro & I love it. Enjoy your new watch...it's awesome!
Thanks Chris. The new clasp really makes all the difference.
“A lot of people” said you could get an adjustable clasp? I thought I was the only one. Seriously though it’s definitely worth every penny. Not sure I could buy an expensive watch without a micro adjustment at this point. For others considering this I ordered the parts through my AD and they put it on for me in about 10 minutes. Guess it depends on if you trust your AD. Wear it in good health as they say.
I think 4 or 5 might have suggested it, but you may have been first if that’s any consolation! And ya I didn’t trust them to do a better job than I could.
Congratulations on the Speedy, Guy! I really need this for my Seamaster Pro bracelet. If I take out a link, it’s way too tight and if I put the link back in , it’s too loose. My Speedmaster bracelet fits perfectly, however. Enjoy the Speedy, it’s a great watch. Along with your Sub, you have two of the most iconic watches out there !
Thanks LS98. Definitely do the modification on your Seamaster, nothing more annoying than having a watch that doesn't fit well on the wrist.
Just got mine fitted. So much better, question; does your clasp make noise when tapped from underneath? Mine makes a jangle noise
Not sure why I waited so long but ordered this clasp and links today. Cost me £300 from London omega boutique and they were really friendly but assured me they would not fit the part or guarantee it, as it’s not meant for this watch. I already have a Mitsukoshi dial and hands on mine... so the warranty ship has sailed long ago!
Not sure how long it will take to arrive but hopefully a week or so she said. I actually prefer the look of the clasp with the polished bevelled edges and it’s longer length. It was more expensive than when you got it- I guess more people are doing it and omega put their prices up regularly (I paid £2700 for the speedy pro in 2018- it’s now £4200 rrp)
Anyway- £300/$330 all in, not so bad for how much more wearable the watch will be. I could probably sell my old clasp for £100+ on eBay
To be honest I opened this to see if you got it! Congrats man🙏
Guilty!
For those worried about water rating I wash mine with dish soap under the kitchen sink all the time. Here’s a couple tips. One, always hold it crown side down when holding it under the faucet. Also you don’t need too much water pressure, just a steady stream will do. Second, after washing or anytime it gets wet the water can sit in the crevices under the buttons. It can literally sit there for several hours. If you push one of the buttons before it dries the water will go straight into the case. Always make sure there’s no water under the buttons before pushing if the watch was wet recently.
Thanks for watching buddy.
I did the same and added the new clasp on my smpc. Just remember to keep the original clasp because Omega want service and the warranty doesnt work if you send the watch to omega with the glidelock.
I’ll definitely keep the original.
Do you have direct experience or evidence of Omega refusing to service a watch with an authentic Omega clasp other than the original that came on the watch? Just curious.
Glad you liked the mod. Myself, I went for the smaller PO 39.5mm clasp. Only three adjustment positions, but that's enough for me and it means the clasp has a smaller footprint than the 6-position one.
Ya I thought about going with that one but figured better to be safe and get the bigger one.
Thomas, did you also find you had to use heat to remove the original clasp?
Thomas, did you need to get the end links for the smaller clasp? And do you have the part number for the PO clasp? I am also am having a hard time getting a good fit on my Speedmaster, but this new clasp looks a little big for my liking. How it the PO clasp working out for you?
I can answer this. The '4666' clasp is similar to this one but is much shorter and has just 3 micro-adjust positions. I've got one on my Speedy and now it fits perfectly! I recommend highly. You'll still need new endlinks though, just like the clasp in the video.
Thanks Chris, much appreciated. I will check it out, do you know the part# of that clasp? I assume '4666' is not the part #.
That is exactly the solution I was thinking of. Thanks for trying it out and making a video of it. I'm glad, that in my case, the bracelet fits well. I agree, Omega should (have) add(ed) this feature to the normal bracelet. Cheers from Switzerland
Hey Frank, thanks for the suggestion, it worked out pretty well. Appreciate it.
Fit is definitely important..!!
Great demo & fix..!
Thanks for sharing..!👍
Thanks Don.
Cool video thanks for sharing. I wish all watch bands were made like that. Seiko could add that part to their bands.
I agree. Thanks for watching!
Congrats on your new speedy
Thanks Daniel.
This clasp seems to be a new standard issue now. I’ve Just had an insurance replacement and it came with a screw bracelet and micro adjust clasp. Much better than my original
Thanks for watching I appreciate it.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews great videos. Keep up the good work.
I think it is super well done !
Thanks for watching.
Guess I was lucky. After removing one link my Speedy fit me perfectly. Now, my Seamaster was another story. Just as you mentioned, it was too tight or too loose. I had to install half link to get that comfortable fit.
Its a good idea to use soldering iron with a solder on the tip to heat up the screws. No open flame.
I’ve never used one, I wouldn’t know how. The lighter worked well enough.
I was told in the boutique to use a lighter as I’d taken it in to them to size after buying online (with 30% off from grey market dealer 😂). They were really helpful in the regent st London OB and sized it with a free coffee and explained that the glue holding them in would be loosened by a lighter flame and any marks would wipe off
Man for that kind of price it should be standard! Either way enjoy the watch!
Ya it would be nice.
Thank you for this. Very much appreciated.
No problem thanks for watching.
Congrats - great watch, great job with the video too as always!
Thanks buddy. You still thinking about going with a Speedmaster for yourself?
Not sure yet...got diagnosed with MS and lost part of my left hand, so the future's a little in flux at the moment.. MRI's and stuff going on lately.. however my pre-ordered Seiko Jade Monster just showed up today if you're interested in reviewing it...
Damn sorry to hear about that, you've got my prayers.
Im a bit confused..my speedmaster came with bracelet and leather and natos..but my bracelet seems different...it has pins not screws from what i can see...and 3 micro adjust positions....it all came from an AD with remaining omega warrenty...do you know if this is ok..are the newer ones all screws.....my watch was made in 2016 sold in 2017??
I don’t know when they changed over to the bracelet and clasp like I have, probably at the same time as they put it I. The giant display box if I was gonna guess. But yeah I think not too long ago it was a pin style like yours.
@@JustBlueFish yeah looked at a few vids it all seems ok...but i have the giant display box etc ....glad you went for it in the end its a great watch..the other problem you had with winding the crown is easily fixed by flipping the watch over then you can get your thumb more on the winder....must say i still cant get used to winding a watch though.....but i suppose its part of the charm....
It looks great on leather band as well...ive got the normal one but im thinking of putting it on a mustard yellow alligator...maybe...
Hope you enjoy your watch...thanks for getting back to me😁😁🖐🖐
Very informative video. However, I believe you currently have the wrong end-link on the speedmaster. I recently went through the upgrade, and was directed to the end-link that is in this video. Noticed the fit was not fluid. Spoke to a manager at the KOP Omega boutique, and was told there is a Speedmaster end-link, and a Seamaster endlink. What you have is the Seamaster end-link. The manager installed the new part (Speedmaster endlink), and the fit was flawless. There were no jagged edges, it was slightly curved, and much shorter. I hope this post help others that are considering the upgrade.
Do you have the part number?
@@dgbucko I can try and get it....gotta contact the store.
I was surprised you went with the Speedmaster after you said that you do not want to tamper with the original bracelet. Instead I thought you would have bought the Tudor after you gave it such a good review.
At any rate, I look forward to the full review - I am looking to buy a new watch this fall, and I am not sure if I want to get an Nomos Club/Tangente/Orion to accompany my Sinn 104, or I could sell the Sinn and get an Speedmaster or an Tudor Black Bay 36/GMT.
I really didn’t want to be bothered with changing the clasp, but I decided it was worth the effort and expense because I really like the watch.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews Nice to hear that you like the watch. If I end up going with the Speedmaster I would probably end up changing the clasp as well, because where I live the winters are cold and summers are warm, so changing the length of the bracelet on the go is a necessity.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews Hi Guy, when can we expect the full review?
Soon I hope. Super busy getting caught up with videos on watches that are loaned to me.
My friend, ive been while trying to find a place to buy that T shape screw, thank you so much
Love it ! Thank you for the info
Thanks for watching.
Man the price of the 117STZ001154 clasp has really gone up. From $110 here to $240 as of my latest quote from my local Omega boutique. -_-;;
What!?!?!
@@JustBlueFish yea man, I called a jeweler from whom someone on the forums got his clasp & links, $240 for the clasp, $50 per link. Thinking this must be a store markup, I reached out to my local Omega boutique and they hit me with the same price. Maybe you got a customer loyalty discount since you bought your speedy from them?
Did you consider buying an original used Omega half-link for the original bracelet on ebay? It's like adding another 2-3 micro-adjust holes to the original clasp, much less expensive, and keeps the watch original. My 2254 with original bracelet has one.
I really don't know what to say. You must be in love with that watch. Omega obviously knows about the problem.This is not a new design. I guess as long as people keep buying the watch as is, then fork over a couple hundred more for their better clasp, why improve the design. Any way, congrats on the new speedy.
I don’t think it’s that cut and dry. They could just put the new clasp on the watch by default and raise the price, saving people the hassle of doing it after the fact. I mean they put the watch in a bigger box and raised the price, so it’s not like they shy away from that sort of thing. I don’t know why they don’t do it, but I don’t think it’s any sort of scheme to get people to buy the clasp later. Perhaps they just want the watch to be more traditional and traditionally it didn’t come with what would be described as a dive watch clasp?
Hi Guy. Not quite what l meant. You said yourself at the end of the video come on Omega get with it, but if you buy the watch and the clasp they win twice. Three times actually, they don't have to innovate. Comfort trumps tradition always. That type of clasp will soon be available on all watches sold with a bracelet. Have a lot of fun with the new watch. Companies will only change if you hit them in the wallet.
it was problem for me for quite a number of Omega watches. When I reacquire a Speedy Pro I will have to look into this. The one I had before I just left it on strap....
The new clasp has worked great on mine. Highly recommend.
This was an awesome upgrade until Omega jacked the price up on the clasp and endlinks. If you want to do this in 2021 it's going to run you about $450.
Bravo !!! Great solution...cheers !
Great Video, is there a chance to put that micro clasp on a tappered bracelet ? For excample a uncle seico? Thanks
My AD tried to order the parts from Omega, but Omega refused to send them as I couldn't quote the relevant Seamaster bracelet part number. Now I have to go personally to the AD and check if they have the Seamaster with that clasp, and quote that number... bummer...
That's strange. I got the parts from an Omega boutique and there was no problems at all.
It’s not a seamaster clasp. It’s from the MarkII Speedy.
Such a great video. Subscribed
So, I tried to do this and wanted to order the parts. Omega straight up refused to sell me these parts because that would change the face of the speedmaster the way it was designed to be and they wouldn't allow that. I'm so put off Omega now that I am seriously contemplating selling the speedmaster and never getting another Omega. The arrogance of plain out ignoring me as a customer is laughable.
Don't order directly from Omega, visit an authorized Omega dealer. Although I've heard the clasp has increased in price since I made this video.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews I did, I want to an AD and they inquired with Omega who responded with above reasoning
Hey Guy, seems like you've had the Speedmaster for quite some time and it appears that you are going to keep it. Could you do a full review on the watch and the accuracy? Thanks in advance!
It’s on the list, I just have so many videos to do.
That seems to be a perennial and perverse problem with expensive purchases. You should not have to risk damaging a new Wath using heat on it and without the expertise or Omega tools. The Rolex AD showroom manager who took a link out of my GMT-Master II used their official Rolex supplied tool box with colour coded intercchangable screw heads for around 3 different torque set screwdriver bodies. He said he used 'super-glue' cyano acrylate and I wasn't happy as you will shear off the head unscrewing it. They sometimes supply a solution which dissolves the bond, which is acetone or nail varnish remover. I think they should use grease instead, which enables a screw thread to hold the torque you put in. The GMT-Master II Easylink clasp is narrower and shorter than the Glide lock on your Submariner and makes it more comfortable to wear as it doesn't affect the flexibility of the bracelet as you have more links in. You could try an engineering shop to get someone to accurately mark the original clasp and drill several additional holes, otherwise it's like the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms you reviewed, you get it on the sail cloth strap with pin buckle.
Thanks for watching Andrew I appreciate it. I’m sure I could have asked the dealer to install the new clasp but honestly I was confident I could do a better job without scratching the watch or messing up any screws.
You do know that there are half links available?
Not unless they have been made available in the last year, because I called Omega directly and they said no half links exist for this bracelet.
I think in the same way that the planet ocean clasp can be used some of the half links from other watches will fit but may not fully match. Omega staff will always dissuade anyone from using “franken parts” or may not know. But either way I’d rather have the adjustable clasp
Hi - Is this available for my Seamaster 2264.50.00? It was made in 2006 but has a Speedmaster style bracelet but with pins, not screws. There no adjustment at all on the clasp, but the bracelet came with a half link. I, like you found it is too tight especially when its hot or humid outside but too loose if I put the half link in. I currently have 6 links on 1 side and 5 on the other.
I’m not sure, I don’t know the specifics on that Seamaster model. I’d say jump on the Omega forums and inquire there.
For anyone wondering what pricing looks like these days for the parts...it has certainly come up. Just got off phone with my OB.
Clasp- 117STZ001154 $260.XX
118ST1589- $52.XX
So roughly around $365.00 to get an adjustable bracelet on your Speedmaster. Give the cost of the watch, I don't think it's too hateful. Just ordered the parts from local OB. Can't wait to get a perfect fitting bracelet! Also for anyone wondering. I have a roughly 8-8.25" wrist. Every link installed & clasp fully extended. The watch fits, however it's a little snug & I know in the heat when sweating it will be very snug. So this modification I feel very worth it IMO. Watch- 1861 Speedmaster Professional in Hesalite.
I think I'll just send the whole bracelet to the service center and pay them to do it lol
What’s up Russell!
So why oh why don’t Omega fit this as standard!? Seems odd to me unless they now do since this vid was made?
Has anybody tried other Omega clasps with micro adjustments that will help with this problem? This clasp looks a little too big for my liking. Just wondering if there are other viable options before I go ahead with this conversion. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks
That is a smaller version of this with 3 adjustment points instead of 6 like the one I bought that you could look into. I don't know the part number of that clasp.
Thanks Fish, I will look into it, I hate not being able to get a good fit on my Speedy.
Fish, just a quick update. I went ahead and did the conversion with the 3 adjustment clasp, unfortunately fit is still not perfect. Not sure if I will try the 6 adjustment clasp (I know that would solve the problem) but I have very small writs and that clasp would eat up most of the bracelet. Wish Omega would come out with half link for this bracelet. Will have to give this some thought, total BS that Omega cant make a clasp with enough micro-adjustments. The good news is that the Speedy looks great on a black leather racing strap that I picked up. Thanks again for the info.@@JustBlueFish
Very good video, Guy. I'm just not a Speedmaster fan.
No, why not?
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews For me, it's the overall presentation and aesthetics of the watch itself. I like your Submariner much better. I don't hate the Speedmaster, but I'd rather get a nice Tissot.
That’s fair, there’s popular watches I don’t really love. Sometimes a design just doesn’t work for us individually.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews Yep, and that wide variety of design allows for an even broader subjectivity.
Hey, ill buy your old clasp since I just broke mine few days ago. I'm in Canada :)
cheers, let me know.
Anyone know if this will work on a speedmaster racing 40mm?
Maybe you should have shown the adjustment
Ummm what?
I think this clasp is 20 mm instead of 18 mm.
Yeah maybe I didn’t measure.
@@JustBlueFish As long as it's functional I think it should be ok; I am considering to buy the shorter version of the clasp. Thanks for your feedback.
I thought of trying the shorter version but if I’m not mistaken that one only has 3 points of adjustment. I think if the standard 2 points on the default clasp isn’t enough 1 extra position might not help.
Fyi...The upgrade pushq clasp is much cheaper than the original.
What is the accuracy of the omega Speedmaster ?👌👍
On their website Omega states that it should be in a range of -1 to +11 seconds per day. I haven't had mine long enough to test it thoroughly but it seems to be well within that range so far.
I did not same to my Seamaster GMT
In Berlin, Germany I cannot buy this clap neither from an AD or official Omega Boutique. The Boutique only offers me the Micro adjustment clasp from the Speedmaster Apollo 17 version which only has 3 holes. They charge 225€ for it. Anyone has experience with the smaller micro adjustment clasp, is it enough?
Watches & BBQ I just got one from an omega boutique in Frankfurt. Charged 330 EUR for a clasp and two end links.
@@MrRealstanley which clasp? 6 or 3 micro adjustments?
Watches & BBQ 6. It is quite a bit bigger than the original clasp. I’m not sure if I like it that much because of the size to be honest. It depends on personal taste. I’ll keep it on for a few days and if I still cannot get used to it I may have to give it back or sell it.
@@MrRealstanley Thanks. I'm also still a bit torn between this and the smaller 3 adjustment one. Then I'm not sure if 3 holes are sufficient. Would be nice if you could share your final thoughts. Can you tell which boutique in Frankfurt it was?
Watches & BBQ of course. I’ll reply here in a few days. The boutique is the omega boutique store at Goetheplatz.
Unacceptable bracelet for an awesome watch, I would have asked the AD to gift me the adjustable clasp!
I’m not that good at negotiating.
Am I the only one who thinks that the new bracelet is absolutely horrific? Never mind the lack of micro adjustment, the bracelet screws are completely retarded. #epicfail
What a performance to just get the right fit. A total disgrace. Why not incorporate 3 or 4 micro adjustments ?
Any 10 dollar watch has the pinholes, but no not Omega. I have a Seamaster without any micro adjustments. Luckily there are some half links, but the performance when after a long warm day the watch is too tight. Yes you have a divers extension, but who is using that? Who is diving with a 4000 dollar watch? Be practical Omega, please.....
You should toss one of these clasps on your Seamaster.
The not 100% perfect is worth dealing with for the clasp upgrade.
My name is Fred Gordon Herbert, and I go by Fred Herbert. But some people would go by Gordon, let's say, even though it's their middle name... y'know?
I'm seventy two yearsh old, and I've... I've f%%%ed up every relationship I've ever had. It'sh ruining my life
How can Omega be so stupid? They spend so much time and money creating a watch yet can't be bothered to make it fit all wrist sizes.
I don’t really know.
Purchased one... not impressed - to be brutally honest it was a piece of shit. New watch. Speck on the dial, movement issues (intermittently stopped) Omega service butchered the lugs and scratched the case and refused to repair. Sold it for an enormous loss back to the dealer. Never again and I wouldn't recommend you purchase one.
That sounds like a cluster f*ck.
It was. I was so bummed after I was initially very excited about the watch. The movement issues were not resolved after two trips to service. Not meaning to poop on your watch and I think your reviews and attention to detail is outstanding. Please keep the videos coming.
Oh... Nah dude. I'm sorry I may be anal but no that just won't do thousands of dollars on such a wonderful time piece and it couldn't even get the end links correct. I may be wrong here but to me that just screams out I don't care I'm going to just make it to sell it.