@@elmojon19jace is nothing but a bastard of house strong he is no prince he can't inherent the iron throne. Both of them are bastards so they are equals
This episode kinda ruins most Jace's character for me mostly how he treated Ulf and Hugh. In the books and so far in the series we have seen him be a cable player and his fears in regards to the dragonseeds are understandable. Which is why it's so mind boggling as to why he's treating them poorly. Jace should have try to befriend them and yes Ulf kind of hits a sore spot for Jace claiming to be a Bastard (of his Great Grandfather). Kindly tell both Ulf and Hugh about how nobility operate and help them navigate the tricky politics of the Black Faction.
Yeah. Like imagine this random ass dude just coming up to you and acting like you’ve known each other for years all the while disrespecting you. I’d be pissed too.
@@jakebrookhis fucking prince why he befriend a disrespectfull Smallfolk in your own place , in Westeros no matter your achievment pecking order must followed Duhhh..just look at Daemon a Dragonrider who still follow a Dragonless Viserys I as King .
Ulf wouldnt never step to Daemon like this lol, first out of reputation and second i am pretty sure he remember Daemon days as commander of the city watch "cleaning" the streets of flea bottom
@@jamesduffy7549 Bastards whose parents are both highborn are considered nobles, even if they're beneath trueborns. Edric Storm is also a noble bastard, being the son of King Robert and Delena Florent, making him above the lowborn likes of Gendry.
I like how Ulf is acting like a cool uncle to Jace at first, and then Jace utterly destroys him because he may be a bastard like Ulf but he is a prince who will not be challenged or treated like a child
@@3dwaygreek What are you even talking about? Jace IS a bastard. A bastard is someone born out of wedlock, not someone who isn't from a noble family. Edric Storm and Joffrey Baratheon have both highborn parents, and they're still bastards. Jace is 100% a bastard. A highborn bastard is still a bastard.
How would you react if a stranger had their feet up on your table and disrespecting your manhood by calling you "boy" in your own home?? Jace reacted appropriately
In the books, Daemon likes Ulf so much he wants to give him Storm’s End. Rhaenyra and Corlys had to step in to stop it. I think Daemon finds Ulf’s carefree attitude refreshing. I sympathize with Ulf because he had to grow up alone as a poor commoner barely surviving in Kingslanding. Being carefree, likable, and expressive was the only behavior he had to give to survive. Jace not even understanding where Ulf comes from shows how distant the southern nobles are from the people they serve. Daemon knew the smallfolk so he would’ve done something different with Ulf. The Northern Lords, the Lords of the Vale, and the Riverlords showed how much they cared for their people. Also, the Hightowers do well in governing Old Town which barely had any conflict for centuries.
I can't keep up with how they keep changing up Ulf and Hugh's demeanor knowing what's to come too I thought with how nice Ulf has been shown unlike Hugh that it be Hugh who would be the first to betray and cajole Ulf but here he seems more respectful now since he has Vermithor where as Ulf has changed to being a someone who thinks he is entitled to stuff and can get away with things which sets up his betrayal, also feel like Rhaenyra really should have had a chat with them about who their family is and learn out that they are somewhat close family too.
@@kaustralishamal2054 its only a very small bit but think its Ulf who starts it off by saying how they sbould be mighty lords instead or even be the king, Ulf was granted a lordship but declined as he felt he should be given Highgarden XD the fool
I don't think they're changing their demeanor at all. Ulf has always been a prick, the very first time we see him he steals an apple from another person's basket and he goes around the city claiming to be a Targaryen bastard so that people will pay him free drinks. And they're already setting up Hugh's betrayal, he doesn't seem too keen in using his newfound dragon to burn innocent people, which seems to be the way Rhaenyra is heading towards now. Knowing what happens to Rhaenyra later on, I can totally see her orders becoming more unhinged, making Hugh feel like he chose the wrong side and turning against her eventually. And with the way Ulf is, it's not that hard that he'd follow suit.
@@kaustralishamal2054Greed in a sense but it was also Rhea’s doing as she promised them a prominent position within the 7 kingdoms but goes back on her word and grants them only small pieces of land in driftmark
Ulf is being disrespectful, he is not taking what is going on seriously. Not to mention Jace is his prince and heir to the throne he should have more respect for him.
@debamlyabanerjee4067 No Jace has a greater status as the son of the Queen. His claim and status is greater, even as a bastard. Ulf is not the son of a reiging monarch just related distantly to one.
Hugh is the responsible coworker that you can genuinely have a conversation with anytime during work. Ulf is the unwanted dude that tags along with you and the homies on break.
@@kohanakvitka5958 true he’s his great uncle. He’s a dragon rider, he can behave however he wants, if Jace has a complaint he can get on his sad little hatching and try his luck against silver wing
They're no longer following the books though. It was mentioned in the previous episode that Hugh's wife has a brother in Tumbleton. The wife asked Hugh to go meet her brother there to find job. So think about it. In the book, you know what they did to Tumbleton.
Не думаю, что Ульф хотел как - то оскорбить или обидеть Джейса, он просто ведёт себя как ему привычно)) И он выглядел таким растерянным, когда Джейс в открытую стал наезжать на него... В любом случае Джейсу надо учиться сдерживать свою бастардофобию)) 😅
Ulf will betray Them out of ambition and arrogance, while Hugh will betray the Blacks simply for feeling betrayed. Aegon promised fair payment in return for hard work. Instead there was a blockade that starved and killed many in the city including his own daughter. Now he is being asked to fight the Biggest Dragon in the world and to fight and ultimately burn the Green Armies whille his reward for his service would be knighthood.... a "Honor" highborns gain for something as easy as catching a poacher or simply beimg part of a powerful family. All this while being treated harshly by Jace and being treated as low class Men when Ulf and Hugh now have the power of Old Valyria to assert their own claims to the throne.
@@frankensteinmurillo446Hugh will probably will betray them because his wife is in Tumbleton if your familiar with this place then you will probably know the Biggest reason why Hugh will turncloak while Ulf is straight -up betrayer.
@@frankensteinmurillo446Hugh know how to follow the Pecking order because he was raised by his mother who is the Former Targaryen Princess while Ulf is straight up grow up in poverty Hugh may hate her Mother but his always following the Pecking order while Ulf is a total maverick .
Bro was actually tried to make a connection with another illegitimate dragonrider. Jace really got offended even though they should be making the new dragonriders feel welcome.
Jace isn't my favourite but ulf seems funny and hammer might be badass. Aegon,larys,cole and the Two queens had good stuff. Aemond and daemon was a letdown imo
Its all over the place but my top 3 this season is Aegon Jace Criston Aegon is a joy to watch, jace has become realistically complex like he is actually the most reasonable person on the blqcks but his insecurities gets in the way. And criston is criston.
How was he being a duck if there calling him boy don’t respect him and putting his feet on the table just no respect can’t blame have them he makes a remark about his hair which could get him killed I like ulf but he was a dick here
SPOILERS Watching this episode really made me realise that Jace probably wouldn’t have made a very good king. He clings too much to his mother and his “name”. He doesn’t inspire loyalty or anything. He comes across as a one of those insufferable nepo babies. “But my mums the queen” head ass. If he wants to be a good king, he should be his own man and learn how important it is to inspire those around him.
I don't get why many are so against ulf: all his life this mam had been in the street fending for himself, alone, while his *royal* family had been living the greatest of life (yeah, you too Jace). And now that he's become a dragonrider, probably feels like finally being accepted by this family and part of something greater than himself, he's joyful. He lacks manners indeed, but he was commoner like minutes ago. I like him and the other dragonseed (hugh and addam): way more than jacaerys.
Yeah, people didn't cry and seethe when it was Bronn who behaved like this around the highborn. Or even Shagga and Tormund. Even Gendry was ill-mannered with the highborn people in the books. But if Ulf does it, it's bad. The watchers have been brainwashed into supporting this noble mentality...when they'd be smallfolk themselves if this was real.
@@noemialcaide672 por su caraterisacion, si lo es. Porque nunca El ha estado tan cerca de aristocraticos y nisiquiera creya totalmente a su horigines targaryen. Haber vencido Alasdeargento fue Como una validacion por El. Por El traimento, bueno quiero ver Como lo actuaran. Lo siento, no hablo español muy bien.
Jace WAS kind of a dick. But to be honest, Ulf's complete lack of a sense of decorum made a civilized interaction... hard to say the least. I can picture a private conversation in which Hugh talked in a more reasonable manner with Jace going better. Sadly, I'd say the well got its first drops of poison here.
For some reason, Jace never commands respect and fear. I wish Ulf had met Daemon. We all saw what he did to Vaemond. His tongue was still intact when Daemon was through with him.
@@jubalnwaobi8129 Daemon in the books loves rebels and carefree people, and only gets mad when the insults are done for the sake of insulting and being spiteful.
@@gooby214 Well, if you've read the books, then I'm sure you know what Ulf later did. Therein lies my anger with the guy. He was even a coward until he claimed the dragon and now he feels invincible and later turns into a traitor. I can already see him betraying and I already know why; he wants power and glory. The one I'm curious to know why he betrayed is Hugh Hammer. He has a calm demeanor. I'm sure whatever his motives are for betraying would have some honorable intent behind it.
@@jubalnwaobi8129 Yes. The show made Hugh a lot more sympathetic in this version, and I wasn't expecting that. That makes you wonder what will make him betray the blacks in this version. With Ulf, you can already see where this is heading. I hope the show doesn't cut Daeron's storyline and lets us see the war in the Reach.
Si si igualito, borracho, irrespetuoso, encima no sabe lo que es la lealtad. Un targaryen puro, que pena que daemon no estaba ahi para ponerlo en su sitio
Ulf is a drunk who shouldn't have been near a dragon, Jace is first in line to the throne and was politicking the entire season, while Ulf was drinking, Hugh at the very atleast knows to respect Jace
@@lukethegoldenminecart1297Jace’s claim is no less valid then Ulf. The fact that Ulf claimed a full grown dragon and Jace merely took a hatchling makes him superior honestly. Jace should be happy his superior is treating him so kindly
Yeah calling it now Ulf and possibly Hugh will stab Jace in the back at the Gullet. Honestly he is being such a prick to them that I won't be angry about it.
you jnow he is the heir to the iron throne, dont you? And they are srunks that just gor dragons and have to obey and show they are on thwir knees dont you?
More likely Ulf but i doubt it because when the battle of Gullet will happen it look like both Addam , Ulf & Hugh are in Kingslanding after they take it with Rhaenyra & Daemon while both Jace and Baela stay in Dragonstone .
The heir has no authority to decide such a matter on his own. No one would never obey your order. They'd just go consulting your mother...you know, the QUEEN. So keep dreaming.
Jace with Aegon II are the only characters that make sense in this show. I’m no team green or black , I just want them to fucking destroy every others idiots. We are already in a fan fiction , Aegon II and Jace have to become besties and win the war with Larys. Btw Aegon II will claim the Cannibal because Sunfyre will die and Alicent will be the one poisoning him because he is a « monster that kill my friend ». This is the ending we will have , you can screen
She is. Which is part of why Jace is so pouty. Before he was a bastard with a dragon. Now he's a bastard with a much smaller dragon than the others. The thing that made him and his claim "Special" isn't so meaningful anymore.
@@Lansone31 They are, he is bastard and it doesn't matter his mother said opposite. He would never take throne in peace if he went after her, she ruined that chainces just by having him.
we keep forgetting that the greens and blacks are royalty/nobility. all those types of people do/have done throughout history is hog glory and power for themselves and demonize lower classes for trying to attain the same, its game of thrones and fictional but it's all the same kinda shit.
@KhalilC17 What you said irrevelent. He is still the prince and heir so he has rank over him. Not to mention Ulf is in his house with his feet on the table and calling him a boy to his face. Ulf is also not taking the war seriously. So yes Jace has every right to be pissed.
It's not bullying, Ulf just wants to be friendly. He is proud on himself, he was right about being special and now he feels it, his stories were truth.
You can see Ulf is gonna be trouble. People are crazy attacking Jace when they should know full well that Ulf is doing this on purpose. We saw Ulf in the Tavern how he knows full well to bow down and Hail the King when Aegon entered the tavern. This behavior is not ignorance of protocol - Its arrogance and blatant disrespect. Ufl is growing arrogant here and both Jace and Rhaenyra are absolutely right to call him on it. We can see he irritates everyone around him not just Jace with his behavior. We also saw him stealing like its nothing. Just because the actor does infuse the character with charisma- doesnt mean Ulf is a good or moral lad. He aint and trust me soon all these people who laugh at Ulf's antics will learn to hate him. There is an old saying: If you wanna see a man's true nature-bestove him with power.
How would you react if a stranger had their feet up on your table and disrespecting your manhood by calling you "boy" in your own home?? Jace reacted appropriately
@@GeeNoniGee If it was the main reason he would've taken his anger out on Hugh too, but in the moment he was disrespected by Ulf, and acted like anyone with a spine would in their own home
The "Prince"....heh. I don't see why you support the insufferable and entitled "this is noble, show respct to your betters omg!!!!" What are you, Pycelle?
Episode 8 ? It is released here in central EU 42 minutes ago, i haven't even had a chance to look at it either, i so hate what's ongoing on YT with this new series, spoliers everywhere after 5 !!! Minutes... yeah lessgo ruin it for the others
Can i do a question How the fuck a targaryen out of marriage looks like a bastard But when a targaryen has a child with another noble house the child gets exactly the targaryen characteristics.. I mean it doesnt .. make sense in biology..
Ulf is that uncle that you meet at family gatherings who just wants to drink, chill and has no concept of personal boundries
funny enough Ulf is Jace's grand uncle, half brother of his grandfather Viserys
@@kaustralishamal2054 Well all dragonseeds are Jaces uncles, in a way. So they not only raised an army of bastards, but also of uncles.
Ulf hitting all of Jaces insecurities 😭😭😭😭😭
At ONCE! 🤣
Jace is a prince and heir to the throne. Ulf should show more respect and take the fact they are at war seriously. That is what he is getting at.
@@elmojon19jace is nothing but a bastard of house strong he is no prince he can't inherent the iron throne.
Both of them are bastards so they are equals
Ulf looks more targaryen then jace that's why angry 😤
@@debamlyabanerjee4067 And the stupid thing is. He points it out.
Crazy how people in comments calling Jace a dick. But ulf chilling with his feet on table like he own the place. Then called him boy lol like what ?
This episode kinda ruins most Jace's character for me mostly how he treated Ulf and Hugh. In the books and so far in the series we have seen him be a cable player and his fears in regards to the dragonseeds are understandable. Which is why it's so mind boggling as to why he's treating them poorly. Jace should have try to befriend them and yes Ulf kind of hits a sore spot for Jace claiming to be a Bastard (of his Great Grandfather). Kindly tell both Ulf and Hugh about how nobility operate and help them navigate the tricky politics of the Black Faction.
Yeah. Like imagine this random ass dude just coming up to you and acting like you’ve known each other for years all the while disrespecting you. I’d be pissed too.
@@jakebrookhis fucking prince why he befriend a disrespectfull Smallfolk in your own place , in Westeros no matter your achievment pecking order must followed Duhhh..just look at Daemon a Dragonrider who still follow a Dragonless Viserys I as King .
@@jakebrook thing is he has to make sure he presents himself as above them
Jace is a dick and getting more annoying but we all know this is probably the dragonseed that will betray her
Ulf triggering 110% of Jace's bastardphobia in one scene was amazing.
Ulf is lucky he didn’t mention what a STRONG boy the prince is.
@@countingzatara9621 Is that you, Aemond? 😂
"Let us raise our cups to these three STRONG boys".
if that was Deamon He Disrespected He Probably Chop His Head Off right there
Ulf would be lucky if thats all Daemon did
Ulf wouldnt never step to Daemon like this lol, first out of reputation and second i am pretty sure he remember Daemon days as commander of the city watch "cleaning" the streets of flea bottom
Yes, and lose a dragonrider, because Daemon is a fucking idiot
Ulf's lucky Jace didn't kill him. Hugh has been present at Court, however briefly, so he, at least knows how to address and act around the nobles.
@@kakashigirl2139 jace isn't noble though, him and ulf are both equal as bastarzs
Kill him ulf can kill jace
@@jamesduffy7549 you are right my friend
@@jamesduffy7549 He's still a Prince and has been raised as such.
@@jamesduffy7549 Bastards whose parents are both highborn are considered nobles, even if they're beneath trueborns. Edric Storm is also a noble bastard, being the son of King Robert and Delena Florent, making him above the lowborn likes of Gendry.
I love how the more Ulf does to endear himself to Jayce the more he unintentionally pisses him off.
Just a Normal conversation between 2 bastards😂😂😂
It's in their genes 😂
Jacaerys was legitimized as velaryon lol,
@cautarepvp2079 No, he wasn't the whole point of his claim that he claims to be targaryen. Addam and Alyn were, however legitimazed as velaryons.
@@cautarepvp2079 Yeah but we got eyes
@@cautarepvp2079yea,Lord Strong 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like how Ulf is acting like a cool uncle to Jace at first, and then Jace utterly destroys him because he may be a bastard like Ulf but he is a prince who will not be challenged or treated like a child
Not exactly a bastard cauz his father was from noble family
@@3dwaygreek What are you even talking about? Jace IS a bastard. A bastard is someone born out of wedlock, not someone who isn't from a noble family. Edric Storm and Joffrey Baratheon have both highborn parents, and they're still bastards. Jace is 100% a bastard. A highborn bastard is still a bastard.
@@gooby214That still puts him at a higher status than Ulf here. Jace's position was recognised by noble houses such as Starks and Freys.
@@gooby214 yes i know that i didnt mean it that way
I mean it like he is a bastard but from noble families while ulf is a bastard from a whore mam
@@gooby214 joffrey was not a bastard.He was an incest product 😂🤢
How would you react if a stranger had their feet up on your table and disrespecting your manhood by calling you "boy" in your own home?? Jace reacted appropriately
Indeed he may be a bastard but he is the bastard of the whore of dragonstone not flea bottom have some respect
"maybe if I mew even harder Ulf will respect my authority"
-Jace probably
Jace is 16 . He is as a boy as any 16 is
Jace is a child and it is his mother’s home.
He should show respect to his betters
@@duyanh4609 In their world 16 is considered an adult
At this point I just want Ulf to play a Hobbit in something, he's so jovial.
THAAAT'S who he reminds of...
He's like Bilbo
I thought Gimli first, or most dwarves by that matter: loud, fun-loving, a bit too proud of himself, and loves to drink.
Love how Ulf treats bastard jace as one of the boys
Me too, he’s such a surprisingly likeable guy.
@@t-rexcellentreviews1663Waiting until it happens
@@xDazaiijust enjoying the moment mate.
@@t-rexcellentreviews1663The problem, its the wrong thing to do.
They need to make themselves ready, without discipline Vaegar will tear them appart.
Which will get them killed.
In the books, Daemon likes Ulf so much he wants to give him Storm’s End. Rhaenyra and Corlys had to step in to stop it. I think Daemon finds Ulf’s carefree attitude refreshing.
I sympathize with Ulf because he had to grow up alone as a poor commoner barely surviving in Kingslanding. Being carefree, likable, and expressive was the only behavior he had to give to survive. Jace not even understanding where Ulf comes from shows how distant the southern nobles are from the people they serve. Daemon knew the smallfolk so he would’ve done something different with Ulf.
The Northern Lords, the Lords of the Vale, and the Riverlords showed how much they cared for their people. Also, the Hightowers do well in governing Old Town which barely had any conflict for centuries.
I can't keep up with how they keep changing up Ulf and Hugh's demeanor knowing what's to come too I thought with how nice Ulf has been shown unlike Hugh that it be Hugh who would be the first to betray and cajole Ulf but here he seems more respectful now since he has Vermithor where as Ulf has changed to being a someone who thinks he is entitled to stuff and can get away with things which sets up his betrayal, also feel like Rhaenyra really should have had a chat with them about who their family is and learn out that they are somewhat close family too.
Yes and yes. But in the book I remember reading it was not clear why they betrayed her, so I'm kind of scared about how the showrunners deal with it.
@@kaustralishamal2054 its only a very small bit but think its Ulf who starts it off by saying how they sbould be mighty lords instead or even be the king, Ulf was granted a lordship but declined as he felt he should be given Highgarden XD the fool
I don't think they're changing their demeanor at all. Ulf has always been a prick, the very first time we see him he steals an apple from another person's basket and he goes around the city claiming to be a Targaryen bastard so that people will pay him free drinks. And they're already setting up Hugh's betrayal, he doesn't seem too keen in using his newfound dragon to burn innocent people, which seems to be the way Rhaenyra is heading towards now. Knowing what happens to Rhaenyra later on, I can totally see her orders becoming more unhinged, making Hugh feel like he chose the wrong side and turning against her eventually. And with the way Ulf is, it's not that hard that he'd follow suit.
@@TheGrimHHH I guess, I sort of saw Early Ulf as a cheeky chappy type person till after getting Silverwing.
@@kaustralishamal2054Greed in a sense but it was also Rhea’s doing as she promised them a prominent position within the 7 kingdoms but goes back on her word and grants them only small pieces of land in driftmark
I appreciate that Ulf is trying to be a nice guy and a bro to Jace.
But that attitude is completely misplaced. If anything he should have expressed in a far more reserved manner
@@thedarkone9552Ulf isn’t what you would call a reserved guy.
Ulf is being disrespectful, he is not taking what is going on seriously. Not to mention Jace is his prince and heir to the throne he should have more respect for him.
@@elmojon19disrespectful jace is a bastard he is no different from ulf they are equals
@debamlyabanerjee4067 No Jace has a greater status as the son of the Queen. His claim and status is greater, even as a bastard. Ulf is not the son of a reiging monarch just related distantly to one.
I love Ulf and Hugh ngl lol. Hope they join the greens
Maybe Ulf just came on a little too STRONG there for Jace.
Ulf is that drunk uncle in every family reunion😂
Ulf is now my fav character, he has no idea what’s going on and frankly he doesn’t care
Ulf could say: "I don't have experience with dragon yet, Where were you?" 😀😆
Hugh is the responsible coworker that you can genuinely have a conversation with anytime during work. Ulf is the unwanted dude that tags along with you and the homies on break.
That guy is bilbo baggins
Ulf was incredibly disrespectful.
too bad Deamon wasn't wasn't around Dragon Stone Castle
cause would he probably cut Ulf's head off right there
@@leowashington8991you know, daemon being there would actually fix a lot of things.
He was just treating his nephew as an equal, Jace should be happy his betters don’t look down on him
@@kohanakvitka5958 true he’s his great uncle.
He’s a dragon rider, he can behave however he wants, if Jace has a complaint he can get on his sad little hatching and try his luck against silver wing
as he should be
lol. You can tell who hasn't read the books. Some of us know exactly who betrays who
They're no longer following the books though. It was mentioned in the previous episode that Hugh's wife has a brother in Tumbleton. The wife asked Hugh to go meet her brother there to find job. So think about it. In the book, you know what they did to Tumbleton.
@@wilcals5294well the events of tumbleton happen later on in the dance
Good for you, pat yourself on the back boy
@@wilcals5294doesn't mean crap m8
@@playoffmodesp2536 writers wouldn't bother adding that detail to the script if it means nothing..
Не думаю, что Ульф хотел как - то оскорбить или обидеть Джейса, он просто ведёт себя как ему привычно)) И он выглядел таким растерянным, когда Джейс в открытую стал наезжать на него...
В любом случае Джейсу надо учиться сдерживать свою бастардофобию)) 😅
Ulf gonna turn first, he loves his new life and aemond is going to get to him first and offer him gold and titles.
Finally, a character I actively cannot WAIT to see perish agonisingly.
"This guy doesn't lick royalty's boots he must die"
@@gabri3l92 nothing to do with bootlicking. You just don’t behave like that at the bloody queen’s table.
@@LifeOfRy That's exactly how one should behave at her table
@@gabri3l92 how did you figure that one out? No one else is behaving like a loutish tool
@@LifeOfRy They all should learn from him then
Ulf will betray Them out of ambition and arrogance, while Hugh will betray the Blacks simply for feeling betrayed. Aegon promised fair payment in return for hard work. Instead there was a blockade that starved and killed many in the city including his own daughter. Now he is being asked to fight the Biggest Dragon in the world and to fight and ultimately burn the Green Armies whille his reward for his service would be knighthood.... a "Honor" highborns gain for something as easy as catching a poacher or simply beimg part of a powerful family. All this while being treated harshly by Jace and being treated as low class Men when Ulf and Hugh now have the power of Old Valyria to assert their own claims to the throne.
Stop spoiling tf is your problem
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess a humble prediction for the Show Canon nothing more 🤐
@@frankensteinmurillo446Hugh will probably will betray them because his wife is in Tumbleton if your familiar with this place then you will probably know the Biggest reason why Hugh will turncloak while Ulf is straight -up betrayer.
@@frankensteinmurillo446Hugh know how to follow the Pecking order because he was raised by his mother who is the Former Targaryen Princess while Ulf is straight up grow up in poverty Hugh may hate her Mother but his always following the Pecking order while Ulf is a total maverick .
A prayer for the salty illiterate, lol.
3 bastards but Jace is a prince because his mother lied.
3 Bastards in a room having a conversation 😂
You mean THREE dragón grandsons and one Strong boy
Hugh - Headstrong, just, and resolute, with a will that even Vermithor acknowledged
Addam - Loyal, and eager to prove himself
Ulf - Unc
if you get the full dinner scene you’d be goated
Anyone else pissed off about the season finale?!?!
Most of the of the season not just the finale .
Bro was actually tried to make a connection with another illegitimate dragonrider. Jace really got offended even though they should be making the new dragonriders feel welcome.
Honestly all the best characters this season are right here.
It's just missing Aegon
Jace isn't my favourite but ulf seems funny and hammer might be badass. Aegon,larys,cole and the Two queens had good stuff. Aemond and daemon was a letdown imo
Its all over the place but my top 3 this season is
Aegon
Jace
Criston
Aegon is a joy to watch, jace has become realistically complex like he is actually the most reasonable person on the blqcks but his insecurities gets in the way. And criston is criston.
@@joshua6207aemond was awesome, daemon was boring
You forgot about Rhaenyra and Daemon
Hugh is probably gonna betray Jace at the gullet for being a dick
Was he being a dick thou? lol ulf is a drunk fool
Ulf has more beef with him. It would be a shocker if he pulled a aemond at the gullet
How was he being a duck if there calling him boy don’t respect him and putting his feet on the table just no respect can’t blame have them he makes a remark about his hair which could get him killed I like ulf but he was a dick here
Nah proly tumbleton
Hugh’s turn will be interesting. He’s a lot more nicer than Ulf.
My lord Strong……..
hugging royalty might be the funniest faux-pas i’ve ever seen in GoT etiquette lmao
SPOILERS
Watching this episode really made me realise that Jace probably wouldn’t have made a very good king.
He clings too much to his mother and his “name”. He doesn’t inspire loyalty or anything. He comes across as a one of those insufferable nepo babies. “But my mums the queen” head ass.
If he wants to be a good king, he should be his own man and learn how important it is to inspire those around him.
The audacity of Ulf omg 🤮
Jace is too kind
I don't get why many are so against ulf: all his life this mam had been in the street fending for himself, alone, while his *royal* family had been living the greatest of life (yeah, you too Jace). And now that he's become a dragonrider, probably feels like finally being accepted by this family and part of something greater than himself, he's joyful. He lacks manners indeed, but he was commoner like minutes ago.
I like him and the other dragonseed (hugh and addam): way more than jacaerys.
Yeah, people didn't cry and seethe when it was Bronn who behaved like this around the highborn. Or even Shagga and Tormund. Even Gendry was ill-mannered with the highborn people in the books. But if Ulf does it, it's bad. The watchers have been brainwashed into supporting this noble mentality...when they'd be smallfolk themselves if this was real.
A que es normal la falta de respeto que ha tenido? Un poco mas y le manda a Rhaenyra. Ademas es un traidor y sino lo veras mas tarde
@@noemialcaide672 por su caraterisacion, si lo es. Porque nunca El ha estado tan cerca de aristocraticos y nisiquiera creya totalmente a su horigines targaryen. Haber vencido Alasdeargento fue Como una validacion por El. Por El traimento, bueno quiero ver Como lo actuaran.
Lo siento, no hablo español muy bien.
@@cristinademartini6653 no te creas, escribes muy bien el español. Yo por lo menos he entendido todo
@@noemialcaide672 muchas gracias!
He's come a long way from working in that phone shop
Jacaerys come on dude lighten up 😂😂 - Mr serious 🙄🙄
Jace WAS kind of a dick. But to be honest, Ulf's complete lack of a sense of decorum made a civilized interaction... hard to say the least.
I can picture a private conversation in which Hugh talked in a more reasonable manner with Jace going better.
Sadly, I'd say the well got its first drops of poison here.
If Daemon was in Dragonstone during this time he would be another vaemond lol
After losing his daughter, is Hugh going to become Westeros version of Kratos?
He's gonna go to Essos to get married and have a BOI
Let’s be real if any one of us claimed a dragon we’d be like Ulf
Not me
He's too much of an extrovert to be like me. But I don't like how Jace behaves with him.
Perhaps i wouldn't put my feet on the table, but I would feel proud too, after being on the streets for all my life until now.
For some reason, Jace never commands respect and fear.
I wish Ulf had met Daemon. We all saw what he did to Vaemond. His tongue was still intact when Daemon was through with him.
Daemon loves Hugh and Ulf in the book,he even wanted to give them Storms End and Castery Rock
@@duyanh4609 Alright. But I doubt Daemon will tolerate any insult to his family no matter how much he likes you.
@@jubalnwaobi8129 Daemon in the books loves rebels and carefree people, and only gets mad when the insults are done for the sake of insulting and being spiteful.
@@gooby214 Well, if you've read the books, then I'm sure you know what Ulf later did. Therein lies my anger with the guy. He was even a coward until he claimed the dragon and now he feels invincible and later turns into a traitor. I can already see him betraying and I already know why; he wants power and glory.
The one I'm curious to know why he betrayed is Hugh Hammer. He has a calm demeanor. I'm sure whatever his motives are for betraying would have some honorable intent behind it.
@@jubalnwaobi8129 Yes. The show made Hugh a lot more sympathetic in this version, and I wasn't expecting that. That makes you wonder what will make him betray the blacks in this version. With Ulf, you can already see where this is heading. I hope the show doesn't cut Daeron's storyline and lets us see the war in the Reach.
They turned Jace into Ser Walder Rivers.
So isn't he his great uncle
I would be mad if Ulf with zero Valyrian speech has the dragon of the queen of Jaehaerys LOL
It’s all until the deamon arrives 😅
I feel like maybe that dragon was a little slow or something. Never imagined one choosing Ulf lol
Ulf looks more targaryen then jace that's why he is angry
Si si igualito, borracho, irrespetuoso, encima no sabe lo que es la lealtad. Un targaryen puro, que pena que daemon no estaba ahi para ponerlo en su sitio
@@noemialcaide672 my friend please use english
@@debamlyabanerjee4067Google Is your friend
Is Ulf in the stitch that who's gonna die first?
Ulf outlives both Jace and Hugh.
Go read the book and you too read ? Jace dies at the gullet and dismembered
It’s uncle Ulf to you boy. Don’t act strong in front of your uncle.
Can't wait for them to turn cloak. They deserve better...
Right…
Ulf was disrespecful as sht bruh, i would've acted the same as jace
Ulf is a drunk who shouldn't have been near a dragon, Jace is first in line to the throne and was politicking the entire season, while Ulf was drinking, Hugh at the very atleast knows to respect Jace
@@lukethegoldenminecart1297Jace’s claim is no less valid then Ulf.
The fact that Ulf claimed a full grown dragon and Jace merely took a hatchling makes him superior honestly.
Jace should be happy his superior is treating him so kindly
@@Jdjdjdujakzgsha huh? Jace is literally the heir to the throne, no matter the father. While ulf parentage is not even confirmed
Yeah calling it now Ulf and possibly Hugh will stab Jace in the back at the Gullet. Honestly he is being such a prick to them that I won't be angry about it.
How ?? Ulf was being a drunk fool. And he did nothing to Hugh
They should learn to respect The Prince. He is their superior and shall act as such.
I mean, Ulf was being disrespectful as hell
you jnow he is the heir to the iron throne, dont you? And they are srunks that just gor dragons and have to obey and show they are on thwir knees dont you?
More likely Ulf but i doubt it because when the battle of Gullet will happen it look like both Addam , Ulf & Hugh are in Kingslanding after they take it with Rhaenyra & Daemon while both Jace and Baela stay in Dragonstone .
Ulf is lucky it wasn’t Daemon that walked in instead of Jace.
Daemon is fond of Ulf in the book. And wanted to make him Lord of Storm's End. Much to the outrage of everyone else.
If i were the heir to the seven kingdoms and ulf clearly implied i was a bastard, i wouldnt give any warnings, it'd be straight to the block with him.
The heir has no authority to decide such a matter on his own. No one would never obey your order. They'd just go consulting your mother...you know, the QUEEN. So keep dreaming.
ADHD is a killer bro
Ulfs a bit of a knob if we're being honest .
Jace with Aegon II are the only characters that make sense in this show.
I’m no team green or black , I just want them to fucking destroy every others idiots.
We are already in a fan fiction , Aegon II and Jace have to become besties and win the war with Larys.
Btw Aegon II will claim the Cannibal because Sunfyre will die and Alicent will be the one poisoning him because he is a « monster that kill my friend ».
This is the ending we will have , you can screen
Ulf… just… crawl away and leave Jace with Hugh. Just go
I like ulf
If Ulf is my hope to win the war against dragons
I'm leaving that shithole and sailing east
Funny, because he lives longer than Rhaenyra and Jace.
Isn't Ulf's dragon bigger and badder than Jace's?
She is. Which is part of why Jace is so pouty. Before he was a bastard with a dragon. Now he's a bastard with a much smaller dragon than the others. The thing that made him and his claim "Special" isn't so meaningful anymore.
@@randomcenturion7264he"s still the heir of the Queen, so no, they are not equal.
@@Lansone31 They are, he is bastard and it doesn't matter his mother said opposite. He would never take throne in peace if he went after her, she ruined that chainces just by having him.
Jace doesn't think, his dragon is young and these two have beast that could easily take him. Honey over vinger.
His disdain for bastards is his weak point.
I do not like what Jace did here. He acts like a gatekeeper.
Nah had ulf humbled himself. This would have gone smoother. Homie had his feet on table and called him boy
we keep forgetting that the greens and blacks are royalty/nobility. all those types of people do/have done throughout history is hog glory and power for themselves and demonize lower classes for trying to attain the same, its game of thrones and fictional but it's all the same kinda shit.
@KhalilC17 What you said irrevelent. He is still the prince and heir so he has rank over him. Not to mention Ulf is in his house with his feet on the table and calling him a boy to his face. Ulf is also not taking the war seriously. So yes Jace has every right to be pissed.
@@elmojon19 he doesn't have rank, bastards ars all of equal standing
@@KhalilC17 Exactly, Jace more than anyone cannot be familiar with them.
Jace is not mad about Ulf's bad manners. He hates Ulf because Jace is insecure about being a bastard, while Ulf is proud of it. It's typical bullying.
It's not bullying, Ulf just wants to be friendly. He is proud on himself, he was right about being special and now he feels it, his stories were truth.
You can see Ulf is gonna be trouble.
People are crazy attacking Jace when they should know full well that Ulf is doing this on purpose. We saw Ulf in the Tavern how he knows full well to bow down and Hail the King when Aegon entered the tavern. This behavior is not ignorance of protocol - Its arrogance and blatant disrespect.
Ufl is growing arrogant here and both Jace and Rhaenyra are absolutely right to call him on it. We can see he irritates everyone around him not just Jace with his behavior.
We also saw him stealing like its nothing. Just because the actor does infuse the character with charisma- doesnt mean Ulf is a good or moral lad. He aint and trust me soon all these people who laugh at Ulf's antics will learn to hate him.
There is an old saying: If you wanna see a man's true nature-bestove him with power.
Rhanerya has no one to blame but herself
@@JonBlack413who knew giving nukes to random people would backfire.
Nah, keep yapping all you want. Ulf did nothing wrong, and I love that he betrays the Blacks later. Highborn deserved exactly to be treated like this.
Ulf reminds me of Lambert from the Witcher. Kind of an ass, but his charisma is plain to see.
Shit! Betrayal!
The only reason Jace is acting is the way he is is because he hates other bastards
How would you react if a stranger had their feet up on your table and disrespecting your manhood by calling you "boy" in your own home?? Jace reacted appropriately
@@PgarRexOh, please. We know why he's *really* mad. He's not "special" anymore.
@@GeeNoniGee If it was the main reason he would've taken his anger out on Hugh too, but in the moment he was disrespected by Ulf, and acted like anyone with a spine would in their own home
@@GeeNoniGeeit makes you a clown
@@GeeNoniGeeThat is bullshit then why did he not act that way with Hugh.
I hate Ulf, acting like he’s a somebody cause he has a dragon…show some respect!
The "Prince"....heh. I don't see why you support the insufferable and entitled "this is noble, show respct to your betters omg!!!!" What are you, Pycelle?
Also, where was such sycophantic behavior when it was Bronn disrespecting nobles, huh? Or the wildlings?
Am not comfortable with this type of person like ulf....
Please don't upload if you are going to cut it so horribly.
Episode 8 ? It is released here in central EU 42 minutes ago, i haven't even had a chance to look at it either, i so hate what's ongoing on YT with this new series, spoliers everywhere after 5 !!! Minutes... yeah lessgo ruin it for the others
Can i do a question
How the fuck a targaryen out of marriage looks like a bastard
But when a targaryen has a child with another noble house the child gets exactly the targaryen characteristics..
I mean it doesnt .. make sense in biology..