Given that impressioning can be difficult, and laminated and most solid-body padlocks can’t be disassembled nondestructively, I feel that Lishi tools for Master products certainly earn their keep!
I have a question: I have three master locks. I used the 2 in 1 m1/ms2. it opened all of them once, but when I tried the second time, it just doesn't seem work in none of them. any clue why is this happening?
From my experience it's too much tension or too little tension. There's times I can open them up in a matter of 45 seconds. Other times I can't get into them at all so it boils down to getting that right amount of tension to picking I'm a beginner so I still have tons to learn.
When I got the Lishi for M1/M2 locks, there seemed to be absolutely no repeatable pattern for opening a Master Lock 3, other than putting immense pressure on the tension arm. Sometimes, on 1 of my ML3's, I just had to pick 1 and 3 to get the open, other times it would open when I picked 1, 3 and 4, and the feedback is non existant. On a different ML3 I have to pick all 4 pins, but in different orders. 😂😂🤣 Master Lock, ya gotta love 'em.
I just rec'd this Lishi tool (from the backorder shipment that just came in recently) and I also have the SAME PROBLEMS with it. I was quite shocked to have the same results, in that it had trouble opening several Master 4 pin padlocks that are just so easy to pick. I was wondering if mine was damaged or manufactured incorrectly in some way. My picking tip is also somewhat curved and tends to stick or hang up near the bottom of chamber # 3 if you just operate it free hand, (i.e., without it even being in a keyway). Wonder if these are a bad lot? I'm quite displeased with it -- now interesting to know someone else has same problems...
I feel like a few others including yourself and myself have had issues with the picking aspect. It is a strange finding. I am happy enough because I got the decoding to work. But it is strange because it works perfect on my Brinks lock.
The thing with the Lishi tool is that you need to make sure that it not just for the brand of lock but also for the key way of the lock. For example the BE2-6 is only for Best lock with an “A” keyway. It won’t work on any other key way. Do your homework before ordering a Lishi tool.
@@HelpfulLockPicker Me neither. I've mad a little money with the Lishi's but I'll never make my money back unless I start locksmithing as a business. In WV you don't need a license or anything.
My Kronos opens all my master locks... Try wiggling the tension wrench back and forth quickly while gunning. Also long sparrows needles from my snap gun work better
My friend bought a used chev, and the ignition switch was replaced. He has an ignition key, but no keys for the doors, so he cannot lock it. Can I use my lishi MIT8 to decode his door locks and order a key?
If you have the correct Lishi for the correct lock you can pick and decode it. I am cautious about giving advice about locks in use especially ones attached to automobiles
Looked like you got the tool a little further into the lock tonight, maybe the core moving about inside the lock was at fault last night. Glad you never took my advice to get the files out lol
I was just watching your weekend update video about Andy Mac and in the middle of watching it went private and kicked me out of watching it. Idk what happened but I wanted you to know if you didn't ready know. And now it's not even in your video list on your channel. Thanks
I know you can change it but isn't the tensioner usually on the other side of the lishis? Sometimes I think the epgs have to much power. If it won't open sometimes I can get it open with my Manuel pick gun and it will open lol it's not a cheap Chinese one it's a good one where the pick moves straight up and down with no curve! When I bought my epg I asked them why they had a less powerful gun at same price and I was told mostly everyone buys the more power full one cause it's the same price! I sometimes wish I would of bought the less powerful model
I opened all those locks before I filmed it but of course being live it didn't cooperate LOL. Also my tension was clockwise and you can rotate the handle to the other side if you just undo a screw and flip it over. I didn't want my hand in the way
My M1/MS2 picks well but that's all it can do. The Lishi pin chart isn't accurate so the cut numbers I gave my locksmith weren't correct. I wasted my money on this 'quality' tool that can't even decode a cheap 4 pin padlock. You notice he didn't cut a key using the numbers he read on the Lishi. Actions speak louder than words..
Unfortunately you have bad form, on both tools. I’ve made more money than I can count with both the Kronos and the MS1 decoder. If you can save someone a padlock by being able to make them a new key without impressioning, stupidly enough, they’ll love you forever and send you more and more business.
I'm very confused how you are having so much trouble picking using the Lishi tool. I can pick so much faster with those. Single pin picking or zipping is much less effective for me personally. Not sure about the vibrator thing you used lol
@@roysammons2445 sure thing. I use the Kronos daily for work. On most electric pick guns (not the dyno) there is a right and wrong way up to inset it. The motor flicks the needle that is sprung in one direction already. Effectively if used the wrong way then you are holding the needle away from the motor. The correct way with the Kronos would be with that thumb screw on the opposite site to the pins.
I don't want to jump to conclusions, but do you single pin pick locks? Raking a lock or using an electric pick... well, that will leave a forensic mess for anyone interested in looking
Thanks for checking it out! I have found when it works, it works and when it doesn't it doesn't. I did open these with it a few times but the angle required for filming made it super awkward which did not help
Don't waste anymore money on those Kronos tools. You can get the same thing or modify it even better, by making your own from an oral b toothbrush. And if you keep the toothbrush part to slip back over the pick it appears to be a normal toothbrush, not a questionable lock opening device, when someone finds it in your pocket.
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Given that impressioning can be difficult, and laminated and most solid-body padlocks can’t be disassembled nondestructively, I feel that Lishi tools for Master products certainly earn their keep!
I am happy that mine is working better now! It does have a few flaws but I much rather deal with those than impression the lock
This lishi does work for master locks. I have it and works for me
Thanks for sharing, I still don't really like it
@@HelpfulLockPicker you’re welcome.
I have a question: I have three master locks. I used the 2 in 1 m1/ms2. it opened all of them once, but when I tried the second time, it just doesn't seem work in none of them. any clue why is this happening?
From my experience it's too much tension or too little tension. There's times I can open them up in a matter of 45 seconds. Other times I can't get into them at all so it boils down to getting that right amount of tension to picking I'm a beginner so I still have tons to learn.
Mine sucks... Got it from Temu though
When I got the Lishi for M1/M2 locks, there seemed to be absolutely no repeatable pattern for opening a Master Lock 3, other than putting immense pressure on the tension arm. Sometimes, on 1 of my ML3's, I just had to pick 1 and 3 to get the open, other times it would open when I picked 1, 3 and 4, and the feedback is non existant. On a different ML3 I have to pick all 4 pins, but in different orders. 😂😂🤣 Master Lock, ya gotta love 'em.
Once picked, if you place a bolt or old shackle in the shackle hole, core will not want to spring closed.
Stratmando
Cool, thanks for sharing!
I’m having the same problem and I’ve followed every instructions.
Thank you for sharing your experience
I just rec'd this Lishi tool (from the backorder shipment that just came in recently) and I also have the SAME PROBLEMS with it. I was quite shocked to have the same results, in that it had trouble opening several Master 4 pin padlocks that are just so easy to pick. I was wondering if mine was damaged or manufactured incorrectly in some way. My picking tip is also somewhat curved and tends to stick or hang up near the bottom of chamber # 3 if you just operate it free hand, (i.e., without it even being in a keyway). Wonder if these are a bad lot? I'm quite displeased with it -- now interesting to know someone else has same problems...
I feel like a few others including yourself and myself have had issues with the picking aspect. It is a strange finding. I am happy enough because I got the decoding to work. But it is strange because it works perfect on my Brinks lock.
Where can I find the clamp setup that you’re using?
The thing with the Lishi tool is that you need to make sure that it not just for the brand of lock but also for the key way of the lock. For example the BE2-6 is only for Best lock with an “A” keyway. It won’t work on any other key way. Do your homework before ordering a Lishi tool.
Thank you for sharing!
HelpfulLockPicker love your channel. Keep up the good work.
Vey finicky for sure, i found using a lot of tension and releasing slowly worked better. Decoding is very accurate compared to Kwikset.
Good job well executed
Thanks
Thx for the Redo
I am happy to do it :)
Great analysis glad you made a second video
Thanks Roon!
Will the lishi tool work on commercial no. 1 masters?
they should
tip is curved so it doesnt fall all the way to the bottom of the tool. if you look at it close it rest on a little lip
Thanks for sharing!
Neat, simple approach carries the day!!
Thanks for checking it out!
Master finally has done something right. It's Lishi resistant but not pick resistant. LOL. BTW, can you zip with Lishi?
Thanks for sharing
Haven't been able to use my Lishi on any master lock so far. I have all the resedential Lishi's and the AM5 and no problems just that one...
I don't like it
@@HelpfulLockPicker Me neither. I've mad a little money with the Lishi's but I'll never make my money back unless I start locksmithing as a business. In WV you don't need a license or anything.
My Kronos opens all my master locks... Try wiggling the tension wrench back and forth quickly while gunning. Also long sparrows needles from my snap gun work better
Thanks for sharing these tips!
Where can I find the bitting from the blind code?
A lock database
My friend bought a used chev, and the ignition switch was replaced. He has an ignition key, but no keys for the doors, so he cannot lock it.
Can I use my lishi MIT8 to decode his door locks and order a key?
If you have the correct Lishi for the correct lock you can pick and decode it. I am cautious about giving advice about locks in use especially ones attached to automobiles
@@HelpfulLockPicker so if I successfully decode it, that is the code for the correct key?
@@parapicktog7734 Yes, it is
I just got one of these - it doesn't fit in any of my masterlocks! :-(
Thank you for sharing
Looked like you got the tool a little further into the lock tonight, maybe the core moving about inside the lock was at fault last night.
Glad you never took my advice to get the files out lol
Yes, the core on my lock has a fair bit of play and that could be part of the problem!
We're did you buy your vise
Amazon
I was just watching your weekend update video about Andy Mac and in the middle of watching it went private and kicked me out of watching it. Idk what happened but I wanted you to know if you didn't ready know. And now it's not even in your video list on your channel. Thanks
I uploaded the livestream to go live and it will republish at 4 p.m.
I know you can change it but isn't the tensioner usually on the other side of the lishis? Sometimes I think the epgs have to much power. If it won't open sometimes I can get it open with my Manuel pick gun and it will open lol it's not a cheap Chinese one it's a good one where the pick moves straight up and down with no curve! When I bought my epg I asked them why they had a less powerful gun at same price and I was told mostly everyone buys the more power full one cause it's the same price! I sometimes wish I would of bought the less powerful model
I opened all those locks before I filmed it but of course being live it didn't cooperate LOL. Also my tension was clockwise and you can rotate the handle to the other side if you just undo a screw and flip it over. I didn't want my hand in the way
My M1/MS2 picks well but that's all it can do. The Lishi pin chart isn't accurate so the cut numbers I gave my locksmith weren't correct. I wasted my money on this 'quality' tool that can't even decode a cheap 4 pin padlock. You notice he didn't cut a key using the numbers he read on the Lishi. Actions speak louder than words..
Unfortunately you have bad form, on both tools. I’ve made more money than I can count with both the Kronos and the MS1 decoder. If you can save someone a padlock by being able to make them a new key without impressioning, stupidly enough, they’ll love you forever and send you more and more business.
Thanks for sharing
The video you just posted is now private. And I can find Andy's channel. Help
I uploaded the livestream to go live and it will republish at 4 p.m.
I think you confused the Kronos by putting it in a Master lock.
Lol
I'm very confused how you are having so much trouble picking using the Lishi tool. I can pick so much faster with those. Single pin picking or zipping is much less effective for me personally. Not sure about the vibrator thing you used lol
The M1 is not easy to use
What happened to your update video? Anyway i send you a mail yesterday with something to share
I uploaded the livestream to go live and it will republish at 4 p.m.
I'll check your email out in a little bit
I did think it is quite funny that the Master Lock resisted a very expensive Kronos Multipick.
Lol
He can’t pick
He used it the wrong way
@@GxAxV How come? I have never used an electric pick gun like that before, would you elaborate please?
@@roysammons2445 sure thing. I use the Kronos daily for work. On most electric pick guns (not the dyno) there is a right and wrong way up to inset it. The motor flicks the needle that is sprung in one direction already. Effectively if used the wrong way then you are holding the needle away from the motor. The correct way with the Kronos would be with that thumb screw on the opposite site to the pins.
I don't want to jump to conclusions, but do you single pin pick locks? Raking a lock or using an electric pick... well, that will leave a forensic mess for anyone interested in looking
Luckily this is lock sport and forensics isn't of concern due to only picking locks one owns or has permission to open
Very cool video!! Nice second look!!!
Stay safe my friend!! I can’t pick much with my Kronos 😿
🐈👍🐈🐾👏😷
Thanks for checking it out! I have found when it works, it works and when it doesn't it doesn't. I did open these with it a few times but the angle required for filming made it super awkward which did not help
Don't waste anymore money on those Kronos tools. You can get the same thing or modify it even better, by making your own from an oral b toothbrush. And if you keep the toothbrush part to slip back over the pick it appears to be a normal toothbrush, not a questionable lock opening device, when someone finds it in your pocket.
Thanks for sharing!
You have to make the small tit totally disappear by pushing up on the round end of the main guide
You half assed and held the tool wrong...
I appreciate your input
For one your pick is backwards 🤯
Thanks
Took you way too long to pick that particular padlock
Thank you
Alternate title: How one half-baked video can spread so much misinformation...
Thanks for sharing
@@HelpfulLockPicker Glad I could help... = )
@@noahway13 👍
Attention folks dont waste your money on tbis products. Does not work
Not as easy as advertisements
Thank you for sharing