That system is starting to become standard equipment for Ford USA. I'm a locksmith, and use these tools daily. The only vehicle with this key system that isn't chipped is the Ford Transit- they make most of them non chipped. Anyway, I don't use that pick all that often, but the CY24 Chrysler, FO38 older Ford, GM37, and GM39 for older GM and I use the 💩 load of them. I don't support this version of Lishi. It's a long story, but this particular pick came from a chinese copy house. The real Lishi picks have old man Li's picture laser etched in them. I broke my right wrist 4 years ago, however, that didn't keep me down. I learned to pick with Lishi Picks with just my left hand. It's work - or bankruptcy. I chose work. It's amazing what a person can do if the will and desire are there.
FIRST off, Adam A (fellow locksmith here) .... BRO.... DAMN, I have got to give you mad love here.... Most folks don't realize, that if you seriously mess up your wrist, elbow, shoulder (or knees) on this job, you could end up starting from square one and have to learn it all over again backwards in this job.... If you own your own business the healthcare plan is usually "don't get sick" which don't help things heal when they do break.... I tore the heck out of my rotater cuff a few years back, got some nerve damage which results in some numbness in my right hand... A lot of folks wouldn't think it wouldn't make much of a difference, but you know... Six month out of work just so I could carry a tool bag, another few relearning how stuff should feel and get back to my old level... but I can still do it right handed, just had to adapt to how things feel with two numb fingers... That crap was hard, I would highly not recommend it.... So, YOU, SIR are a FREAKING ROCKSTAR having to relearn it left handed..... If you're ever in Savannah, GA, you have a beer coming to you on me. Secondly, I've been resisting getting into auto, other than classics for a while because of the cost, but these days unless you got a never ending string of industrial or commercial contracts, that's where the money is, you have to... So I've been working on learning it.... I got THIS version of the Lishi in GM39, figuring, "I'll learn on my own vehicle before I put a tool in a customer's"... I've had it for MONTHS, I've prolly put in 60 hours or work on it, and STILL can't open my old GM work vehicle, even my neighbors have gotten used to seeing me, on a stool, in my driveway, trying to pick my own door open at this point... Finally had a few local buddies of mine who are also locksmith's, and who SPECIALIZE in auto, try it with my tool versus theirs, and while it's a (redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted) PITA, with theirs, it's impossible with mine... Lesson learned, so for anyone still paying attention, get the one with Mr. Li's picture, that's what my buddies cleaning up doing auto locksmithing use. It's my next purchase... Then I can figure that out and, then figure out where the rest of the money is coming from... lol ALSO, and I'm sure Bill knows this, and I know you do as well, but for anyone else, again, still paying attention,, as I've said in other comments on other videos, working on a practice lock in the shop is NOT the same as working on locks in the field... Even my locksmith buddies who specialize in auto find my old 2002 work vehicle a PITA to try to unlock... The Lishi's not really needed for mine, since there's both inside the door, and in the vehicle openings for it, but that's not my point here... Especially since the dawn of remote unlocks, most car locks, especially either on the coast or in areas where they salt the roads during winter, are SO out of shape and corroded after quite a few years, they might even lock up with the ACTUAL key... So, once again, it's another tool in the toolbag, it's not a magic wand...and it still takes a load of practice to get it right....
Bill I am a locksmith; I have found your chanel late as my career is only beginning. I want to thank you so very much for your dedication, and your devotion, to your craft. Your videos are invaluable and I truly wish the best for you and your endeavors Alex Z. 🤙🏻🙋🏼♂️⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thanks for the class. I recently started using these tools to open and produce keys for my customers. THEY ARE GOD SENT! It usto take 2 road techs 1.5 hours to produce a key by undoing the door panel, removing door lock, disassembling the lock and writing down wafers. Only to find out that door lock was different than ignition cylinder. Now it's me by my lonesome self and my lichis. 5 minutes and wala!, $180 bucks richer. This one tho? It gave me a run for my money. Practice practice practice and patience but now I learned that I was doing it all wrong. I was guessing what was what but now I know what to look for and writing down the up/down left/right wafers. When I disassembled the door lock i realized that wafers had L1,R2 and so forth but didn't realize what that meant. You clarified allot of things for me THANKS! As for dodge, nissan, ford and GM models, I do those with my eyes closed but not with one hand tied behind my back.
The automotive stuff is pretty cool. Granted more and more cars have chipped ignitions so picking won't let you start the car but man am I more and more an advocate of alarms for the doors and trunk. Another interesting video, thanks.
What an awesome tool! I RARELY deal with car locks, but this makes me want to go out and start practicing with it. That thing is really a work of functioning, technical art.
Very neat little tool! To echo some of the other comments, you are an excellent teacher Bill, one of the few with a lot of knowledge on a subject AND able to relay that info to others in a simple manner. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the video! I'm a residential locksmith breaking into auto locksmithing and it's a learning curve for sure! Thanks for helping us noobs. It's much appreciated.
So glad you’re showing an automotive lock , i have the vw , ford and vauxhall (UK) .... after some practice these are so easy to use . My job involves rescuing peoples keys when locked in their cars .. Ive found once you have one wafer picked correctly it still has a slight spring to it but only springs between two depth markers
Bill I use LISHI tools all the time. When you pick the wafer and you don't feel a little spring back, you have overset the wafer. You should always FEEL a little spring back, but not a heavy push.
I'm a locksmith in the UK, and I use those 2in1 picks all the time, the most popular car lock is the VAG HU66, the VAG stands for Vaxhall & Aldi Group, the HU66 is fitted to Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, SEAT, Škoda and Volkswagen cars to name but a few.
I'll probably never try picking these type locks, and will pass on this giveaway, BUT that doesn't mean I don't want to understand more about these locks and the tools used on them. It's the same with LPL, doing a lot with lever locks now. I'm still fascinated with all types of locks, what can I say, I'm just a lock nerd. Thanks for doing this Bill.
Great job!PS:Just a little tip.The way you’ll know when a wafer is set is at the shear line(Not over set)after picking it,is if it only springs one depth after palpating it with the pick.For instance if you pick say the 10th wafer,hear and feel the click,gently probe it again and the indicator stops at the #3 depth on the scale and when released bounces back up to the #2,you got it.
All good, one little detail..... you have an internal transmitter on those keys... well on the newer models... you open the door, but no joy on the ignition... great video, as always... wonderful, and pricy tool.
rickhard rockpt True, but, if your keys are locked inside the car or in the trunk, these are great. Yes, there are car door unlocking tools out there but they often set off the alarm which activates a security protocols in the car bypassing other electric door locks and electric trunk releases. But picking the lock will bypass those protocols and not set the alarm off. And this is primarily used to decode keys for cutting new ones with the chip in the key. LS will program the newly cut transponder key to the car, and viola, $250+/-, you now have a key to the one you lost that will start your car. If the LS has to call the dealer to get the key code to cut the key, they often will charge you more as they are charged by the dealer to get that code. For a lock picker, these are overkill. For a LS, or roadside technician like me who has to get keys out of trunks, these are priceless!
Don't know if you saw it or not, but the tool is actually showing you your left and right top and bottoms at least for this particular lock. 10,9,6,5,2,1 all on top of the tools scale the rest on bottom.
I did notice it but decided not to mention it lest viewers think that all locks would work like that. This one was a fluke, as I've never had any other locks line up so nicely like that.
@@bosnianbill Yeah I suppose, but it kinda makes me curious if they do the numbers that way to make it easier to separate groups or if all the locks line up like that.
I am guessing that they separated the numbers like that to reduce confusion on what pin your on. It makes it easier on the eyes when operating the tool.
could also be that those are the typical standard for most cars but as manufacturers are inclined to do they will change it up if they feel the need to still its best not to instill crutches on the student and to demonstrate to them how to go about feeling for the positions themselves its like most british peoples attitude to driving you learn how to drive a manual (stick shift) then you can drive a automatic afterwards so should you ever have to you can still drive manual transmission
Thank you! I've been trying to figure out how these work through just the photos. A lot easier once this is explained how to properly insert, what the tensioner was, and how to read.
I've watched most of your vids then I decided to go out and buy a set of picks off amazon, in my first 24hrs I've picked my gate lock which a 5 pin disc lock and another 5 pin disc lock and I picked my front door which is a 6 pin euro cylinder, in under a minute single pin picking had no luck raking
Nice work, but don't forget the two rules of lockpicking. 1) Never pick a lock that isn't yours or you aren't explicitly allowed to pick. (Obviously :) ) 2) Never pick a lock that is in use. (Unless forced to by circumstances of course. Picking leaves forensic marks inside the lock and damages it in a different way than usual key use. And if the lock had a master key or some rekey system, you can easily lose a master wafer or whatever the rekey system uses during opening, breaking the lock for one of the keys. In short, even though it is unlikely when you know what you are doing, the lock may break.)
I have been meaning to make such a tool for Aussie Lockwood locks for years!! Never yet got around to it. But my one will have a lever for every pin!! Whether it be a 5pin, 6pin or 7pin. It will get damn crowded inside that keyway! Maybe inox will be too soft/flexible to make it work. May have to use something harder like tool steel. I hope its possible!! May need to make a scale model first. Large scale. Like 4 times normal size. Then of course I'd need a scaled up practice lock!! Made of perspex probably. Made with the help of either one or both of the following tools: CNC machine & LASER engraver/cutter. Luckily I know someone who has both. But he's SOO BUSY, I'd never get the chance to use them! :(
I would recommend the cy24 for beginners its the Dodge Jeep chrysler. Bill likes learning the hard way. yes they are expensive but for a automotive locksmith they are worth every penny
Lol, Bill, the numbers on the tool tell you where the pins are notice the 10,9,6,5,2,1 markings are at the top and 8,7,4,3 are on the bottom of the grid. The tool was speaking, you just didn't listen!
onimusha5dm just in case the top tool is covering the lower numbers, you can tell what pin you are on.... also allows you to pick locks with non-standard pin allocation.
@Paul M Absolutely true. On a Ford Fusion door for example wafers 2/3, 6/7 and 10 are on the same side. There is no wafer in position 1. You should test every lock unless you know for sure.
Holy shit. This is exactly what the locksmith I called last month used to cut my key for my truck after I lost the whole set. He wouldnt tell me where he got it. Not that I could have cut my own key or anything, but still.
You can call in the manufacturing vin# code on the vehicle's dash and the car company can tell you the key cut settings. They charge a fee for this. Have to do this to set the fob if it doesn't transmit anymore.
Wow! Awesome, Bill! Ive been waiting for you to pick some auto locks. Now i can get rid of my old way of opening "Lock-Out" car doors - my ASP BATON ! Ha ha ha 😃😂 !!
Seeing that my employer has now given me permission to pick automotive locks, and Range Rover being a deadlock system, I really could use this tool. I sure hope I finally win a drawing.
Great video, very informative. I have to make one suggestion/correction that may help beginners with a good eye . At the end of the video when you are talking about the bitting of the key and you show your key there is a mismatch. You decode the lock with the Lishi tool as 2112433442 or 21 (12) 43 (34) 42. I think you are off by 1 digit or depth on each of the bottom numbers (numbers inside parenthesis). I paused your video on your key and read the cuts of the key as 2123434542 or 21 (23) 43 (45) 42. When I replayed your video, you appear to be reading the Lishi tool correctly but I think your tool might have gotten a little bent or tweaked. If you add 1 to each of your numbers inside of parenthesis you get my bitting. If you look closely at your key there are no two cuts the same height next to each other. If there were your key would have a longer “flat spot”. Your verbal bitting call-out has 3 sets of cuts at the same depth next to each other, a 11, a 33, and a 44. If this was your case you would have 3 longer “flat spots” and your key does not look like that. In fact each one of your 10 spaces is only one depth different, in either direction, to the space next to it except for the #1 and #2 spaces. That space (closest to the bow) has a depth difference of 2 and that can be seen by a steeper ramp between the 4 depth and the 2 depth.
Newbie question. If the cylinder can only rotate when all of the pins (or wafers - whatever the proper terminology is) are at their proper depth... I dont understand how it can 'partially rotate' when just some of the pins are at the proper depth. For as long as any single pin is not at the proper depth - shouldn't that single pin prevent the cylinder from rotating? Thanks for explaining...
These tools are great to use but takes practice and make sure the lock is not gummed up by using plastic safe cleaner... just lubricate after your done
Great little tool, just so pricey. And this one done 3 time as much as the typical. But the decoding is worth its weight in Gold. Lol Thanks for sharing.
Nice tool for decoding! but I don't like that it's not fully universal. If it was, I think it's be well worth buying. But for just standard entry, I'll sick with door wedges and/or slim Jim's. Those are typically universe lol
Very good video, so how would you enter this key code into a cut to code machine (xhorse Dolphin) , im not sure if you read it left to right or right to left, thanks
Second newbie question... In this example we see that for the ten 'wafers' that are opposing. Left wafers having springs happen to be #10,9,6,5,2,1. Right wafers having springs happen to be MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE OF THIS - or #8,7,4,3. Is this mutual exclusivity always true? Or can there ever be a case where the same wafer number has a spring in both the left and right position?
Cool! I was wondering if you were going to review this item, I see a lot of locksmiths that just LOVE this pick.. But you don't see much locksporters using it for obvious reasons.. Thanks a lot for sharing Bill, I'm working towards becoming a locksmith and I might just have to invest in these one day..
And progressions all depend of the quality of the door lock. Ive spent hours on certain vehicles bc my tool read 1 cute wrong by 1 depth while it not only turned in the door but I spent an hour or two going thru progressions with the wrong cut/cuts
Amusing to think of trying to pick a car lock...every time we have been locked out they use a pad thing with a blood preasure cuf like pump and pry the window corner away then just reach in with a rod/hook and grab the handle or poke the unlock button. Maybe 30 seconds tops to open it.
Autolocksmith know the wafer directions and sequences for fast picking them. They make the job easier but given how many there are it's expensive if you aren't in the trade. I have about 60 of them and I don't have all of them. You should try the new vag locks with 4 sided laser cut keys. Their easy but the pick looks v futuristic.
This tool is not made for gaining entry to a vehicle even though you can open car that way. Its made for "lost keys". Instead of taking door apart to remove lock cylinder to find lock code to cut a key. You pick the lock with Lishi Tool so then you can then read the wafers in door key lock so you then can cut a key without taking customer's door all apart to take out lock cylinder out for key code. And it's less work and faster then taking door apart (door panel and other parts) and reassembly. If you can actually pick lock over to read the wafers. Cylinder must be pick over to read wafers cuts.
Can not agree on thet. What is then the Lishi Readers for? The 2-in-1 can do both. They seems so good, and i really like the invention. They must have turned the auto lockpicking up-side-down, as I see it. But you'll need a bunch of them and it get fairly expensive. But for those using them daily, they just become cheap. At our store we can not justify the cost, with too few asking for a car door open. And I can't understand why there should be so many ppl lock in their keys (or lose them) daily. And if people lost their keys, you also have to program in a new key to the car. The Lishi only opens the door (can turn the ignition as well), but will not start the car. Wish I had some Lishis to try out. Becaus they need a lot of practice to work out (some are easier, but some evil).
man, im a locksmith, or ex locksmith, i used these on a daily, i had thought about sending you a set to try out with some locks, but never went to the junk yard to find some locks, and never got the chance, if you want to see a wider variety let me know, i would love for you to check them out, but if it does not interest you thats fine
Thank you! Yes, it was quite a challenge to learn this new tool and I'd be interested to see if the skill translates over to other models of the pick and different locks. I appreciate your kind offer. The address is: LockLab, P.O. Box 2160, Merrifield, VA 22116. THANKS!
yeah, they absolutely feel different, ill send my kit for you to check out, and ill look around see if i can find some locks lying around my old locksmithing stuff wish i could start my own business, instead of self contracting like i used to, i may ask for them back if i ever do, but until then, im happy as all hell being a bike mechanic xD
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That system is starting to become standard equipment for Ford USA. I'm a locksmith, and use these tools daily. The only vehicle with this key system that isn't chipped is the Ford Transit- they make most of them non chipped. Anyway, I don't use that pick all that often, but the CY24 Chrysler, FO38 older Ford, GM37, and GM39 for older GM and I use the 💩 load of them. I don't support this version of Lishi. It's a long story, but this particular pick came from a chinese copy house. The real Lishi picks have old man Li's picture laser etched in them.
I broke my right wrist 4 years ago, however, that didn't keep me down. I learned to pick with Lishi Picks with just my left hand. It's work - or bankruptcy. I chose work. It's amazing what a person can do if the will and desire are there.
FIRST off, Adam A (fellow locksmith here) .... BRO.... DAMN, I have got to give you mad love here.... Most folks don't realize, that if you seriously mess up your wrist, elbow, shoulder (or knees) on this job, you could end up starting from square one and have to learn it all over again backwards in this job.... If you own your own business the healthcare plan is usually "don't get sick" which don't help things heal when they do break.... I tore the heck out of my rotater cuff a few years back, got some nerve damage which results in some numbness in my right hand... A lot of folks wouldn't think it wouldn't make much of a difference, but you know... Six month out of work just so I could carry a tool bag, another few relearning how stuff should feel and get back to my old level... but I can still do it right handed, just had to adapt to how things feel with two numb fingers... That crap was hard, I would highly not recommend it.... So, YOU, SIR are a FREAKING ROCKSTAR having to relearn it left handed..... If you're ever in Savannah, GA, you have a beer coming to you on me.
Secondly, I've been resisting getting into auto, other than classics for a while because of the cost, but these days unless you got a never ending string of industrial or commercial contracts, that's where the money is, you have to... So I've been working on learning it.... I got THIS version of the Lishi in GM39, figuring, "I'll learn on my own vehicle before I put a tool in a customer's"... I've had it for MONTHS, I've prolly put in 60 hours or work on it, and STILL can't open my old GM work vehicle, even my neighbors have gotten used to seeing me, on a stool, in my driveway, trying to pick my own door open at this point... Finally had a few local buddies of mine who are also locksmith's, and who SPECIALIZE in auto, try it with my tool versus theirs, and while it's a (redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted) PITA, with theirs, it's impossible with mine... Lesson learned, so for anyone still paying attention, get the one with Mr. Li's picture, that's what my buddies cleaning up doing auto locksmithing use. It's my next purchase... Then I can figure that out and, then figure out where the rest of the money is coming from... lol
ALSO, and I'm sure Bill knows this, and I know you do as well, but for anyone else, again, still paying attention,, as I've said in other comments on other videos, working on a practice lock in the shop is NOT the same as working on locks in the field... Even my locksmith buddies who specialize in auto find my old 2002 work vehicle a PITA to try to unlock... The Lishi's not really needed for mine, since there's both inside the door, and in the vehicle openings for it, but that's not my point here... Especially since the dawn of remote unlocks, most car locks, especially either on the coast or in areas where they salt the roads during winter, are SO out of shape and corroded after quite a few years, they might even lock up with the ACTUAL key... So, once again, it's another tool in the toolbag, it's not a magic wand...and it still takes a load of practice to get it right....
@@derekbroestler7687 can't you just use a wedge or long thin piece of metal to open a car door? It's all i use and it almost always works
His channel would then be called, "JimmyJoes" if he did it like that.
It small businesses like yours, that mske America Great. Glad you didn't give in or up.
@@stompingpeak2043 these are used to make keys
Bill I am a locksmith; I have found your chanel late as my career is only beginning. I want to thank you so very much for your dedication, and your devotion, to your craft. Your videos are invaluable and I truly wish the best for you and your endeavors Alex Z. 🤙🏻🙋🏼♂️⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thanks for the class. I recently started using these tools to open and produce keys for my customers. THEY ARE GOD SENT!
It usto take 2 road techs 1.5 hours to produce a key by undoing the door panel, removing door lock, disassembling the lock and writing down wafers. Only to find out that door lock was different than ignition cylinder.
Now it's me by my lonesome self and my lichis. 5 minutes and wala!, $180 bucks richer.
This one tho? It gave me a run for my money. Practice practice practice and patience but now I learned that I was doing it all wrong. I was guessing what was what but now I know what to look for and writing down the up/down left/right wafers. When I disassembled the door lock i realized that wafers had L1,R2 and so forth but didn't realize what that meant. You clarified allot of things for me THANKS!
As for dodge, nissan, ford and GM models, I do those with my eyes closed but not with one hand tied behind my back.
Man I miss Bill's videos. A real humble and honest voice in the lock picking youtube community.
What do you mean "Man I miss Bill's videos"? Did something happen to him??
I love lishi tools. They were invaluable for me as a car locksmith. They also tell you your bitings so you know what to cut the key to.
The automotive stuff is pretty cool. Granted more and more cars have chipped ignitions so picking won't let you start the car but man am I more and more an advocate of alarms for the doors and trunk.
Another interesting video, thanks.
What an awesome tool! I RARELY deal with car locks, but this makes me want to go out and start practicing with it. That thing is really a work of functioning, technical art.
It's about fucking time someone did a good video on these. Thank you
Very neat little tool! To echo some of the other comments, you are an excellent teacher Bill, one of the few with a lot of knowledge on a subject AND able to relay that info to others in a simple manner. Thanks for the video!
What a really neat little tool!! Definitely something worth having for the price.
One of the best videos since a while Bill. Please more videos on car locks.
Thanks for the video! I'm a residential locksmith breaking into auto locksmithing and it's a learning curve for sure! Thanks for helping us noobs. It's much appreciated.
So glad you’re showing an automotive lock , i have the vw , ford and vauxhall (UK) .... after some practice these are so easy to use . My job involves rescuing peoples keys when locked in their cars ..
Ive found once you have one wafer picked correctly it still has a slight spring to it but only springs between two depth markers
Bill I use LISHI tools all the time. When you pick the wafer and you don't feel a little spring back, you have overset the wafer. You should always FEEL a little spring back, but not a heavy push.
I dont think he lubricated the lock because it would show blurs for the video so the springs woild be rigid without lubrication.
@@robertwilkins839 no
I'm a locksmith in the UK, and I use those 2in1 picks all the time, the most popular car lock is the VAG HU66, the VAG stands for Vaxhall & Aldi Group, the HU66 is fitted to Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, SEAT, Škoda and Volkswagen cars to name but a few.
Last I checked vag was Volkswagen Audi group ; -)
I'll probably never try picking these type locks, and will pass on this giveaway, BUT that doesn't mean I don't want to understand more about these locks and the tools used on them. It's the same with LPL, doing a lot with lever locks now. I'm still fascinated with all types of locks, what can I say, I'm just a lock nerd. Thanks for doing this Bill.
Great job!PS:Just a little tip.The way you’ll know when a wafer is set is at the shear line(Not over set)after picking it,is if it only springs one depth after palpating it with the pick.For instance if you pick say the 10th wafer,hear and feel the click,gently probe it again and the indicator stops at the #3 depth on the scale and when released bounces back up to the #2,you got it.
Original Lishi is far superior in build quality and precision. Thanks for doing a Auto Lock Bill! I use Lishi every single day!
are the china copy of this tool any good ?
All good, one little detail..... you have an internal transmitter on those keys... well on the newer models... you open the door, but no joy on the ignition... great video, as always... wonderful, and pricy tool.
rickhard rockpt True, but, if your keys are locked inside the car or in the trunk, these are great. Yes, there are car door unlocking tools out there but they often set off the alarm which activates a security protocols in the car bypassing other electric door locks and electric trunk releases. But picking the lock will bypass those protocols and not set the alarm off.
And this is primarily used to decode keys for cutting new ones with the chip in the key. LS will program the newly cut transponder key to the car, and viola, $250+/-, you now have a key to the one you lost that will start your car. If the LS has to call the dealer to get the key code to cut the key, they often will charge you more as they are charged by the dealer to get that code.
For a lock picker, these are overkill. For a LS, or roadside technician like me who has to get keys out of trunks, these are priceless!
I just recently started watching and subscribed. You have ignited my lock picking fire. Keep up the fantastic work. I just love these videos.
Awesome video with great detail as always, great job Bill 💪👌👌
Don't know if you saw it or not, but the tool is actually showing you your left and right top and bottoms at least for this particular lock. 10,9,6,5,2,1 all on top of the tools scale the rest on bottom.
I did notice it but decided not to mention it lest viewers think that all locks would work like that. This one was a fluke, as I've never had any other locks line up so nicely like that.
@@bosnianbill Yeah I suppose, but it kinda makes me curious if they do the numbers that way to make it easier to separate groups or if all the locks line up like that.
They probably built the training lock to match up with the tool.
I am guessing that they separated the numbers like that to reduce confusion on what pin your on. It makes it easier on the eyes when operating the tool.
could also be that those are the typical standard for most cars but as manufacturers are inclined to do they will change it up if they feel the need to still its best not to instill crutches on the student and to demonstrate to them how to go about feeling for the positions themselves
its like most british peoples attitude to driving you learn how to drive a manual (stick shift) then you can drive a automatic afterwards so should you ever have to you can still drive manual transmission
What an excellent little tool. You make a great teacher, Bill.
Thank you! I've been trying to figure out how these work through just the photos. A lot easier once this is explained how to properly insert, what the tensioner was, and how to read.
WOW... that is really cool...... now i have to buy one. thanks bill
Absolutely great teaching! I feel as if I could do this on the 1st day by the way you described it. Nice and now I want all of these! LOL
Had been hoping you would demo one of those. seen them before but wanted your take on how well they work Thank you Bill
Very cool tool! I've seen it before, but didn't know exactly how it worked. Thanks very much for explaining it in detail! ^_^
I've watched most of your vids then I decided to go out and buy a set of picks off amazon, in my first 24hrs I've picked my gate lock which a 5 pin disc lock and another 5 pin disc lock and I picked my front door which is a 6 pin euro cylinder, in under a minute single pin picking had no luck raking
Nice work, but don't forget the two rules of lockpicking.
1) Never pick a lock that isn't yours or you aren't explicitly allowed to pick. (Obviously :) )
2) Never pick a lock that is in use. (Unless forced to by circumstances of course. Picking leaves forensic marks inside the lock and damages it in a different way than usual key use. And if the lock had a master key or some rekey system, you can easily lose a master wafer or whatever the rekey system uses during opening, breaking the lock for one of the keys. In short, even though it is unlikely when you know what you are doing, the lock may break.)
I am watching from north iraq is a very useful video thank you
Thank you for being so comprehensive
I have been meaning to make such a tool for Aussie Lockwood locks for years!! Never yet got around to it. But my one will have a lever for every pin!! Whether it be a 5pin, 6pin or 7pin. It will get damn crowded inside that keyway! Maybe inox will be too soft/flexible to make it work. May have to use something harder like tool steel. I hope its possible!! May need to make a scale model first. Large scale. Like 4 times normal size. Then of course I'd need a scaled up practice lock!! Made of perspex probably. Made with the help of either one or both of the following tools: CNC machine & LASER engraver/cutter. Luckily I know someone who has both. But he's SOO BUSY, I'd never get the chance to use them! :(
I would recommend the cy24 for beginners its the Dodge Jeep chrysler. Bill likes learning the hard way. yes they are expensive but for a automotive locksmith they are worth every penny
Lol, Bill, the numbers on the tool tell you where the pins are notice the 10,9,6,5,2,1 markings are at the top and 8,7,4,3 are on the bottom of the grid. The tool was speaking, you just didn't listen!
what are the 8,7,4,3, at the top right under 10,9,6,5,2,1, do? Or is it a display of it at the top were all the tumblers are place in the lock?
onimusha5dm just in case the top tool is covering the lower numbers, you can tell what pin you are on.... also allows you to pick locks with non-standard pin allocation.
LOL Seemed that way but I wasn’t wanting to say that.
I figured that out right away.
@Paul M Absolutely true. On a Ford Fusion door for example wafers 2/3, 6/7 and 10 are on the same side. There is no wafer in position 1. You should test every lock unless you know for sure.
Awesome tool. Simple process of elimination of possabilities
Glad to see you do auto locks 😃
You make the best videos
Thats brilliant! plus I learned how decoding works :)
Thanks man iv allso be braking my head to read the code on the lishi,your video made it very easy to understand..awesome☺
Seen some vids on this but this one is way more explained on how to use it
Surprisingly easy WOW.
That’s really cool, but not sure I have the patience for it. Definitely a genius tool, I bet they went through many fails to get to this product.
Holy shit. This is exactly what the locksmith I called last month used to cut my key for my truck after I lost the whole set. He wouldnt tell me where he got it. Not that I could have cut my own key or anything, but still.
You can call in the manufacturing vin# code on the vehicle's dash and the car company can tell you the key cut settings. They charge a fee for this. Have to do this to set the fob if it doesn't transmit anymore.
Thanks a million!
You definitely added some insights on how to master this tool.
Very good demo thanks Bill.
7:52 had me rolling.
"You're wrong... Don't do it"🤣
Thats a rather smart pick, very cool
Wow! Awesome, Bill! Ive been waiting for you to pick some auto locks. Now i can get rid of my old way of opening "Lock-Out" car doors - my ASP BATON ! Ha ha ha 😃😂 !!
You are very educated sir!
Thanks for the explaination
Oh now that's something I want when doing repairs
What a neat idea.
Love that lishi
Seeing that my employer has now given me permission to pick automotive locks, and Range Rover being a deadlock system, I really could use this tool. I sure hope I finally win a drawing.
Very cool giveaway Mr.Bill, You always have GREAT giveaways. Thank you for your info
Great video, very informative. I have to make one suggestion/correction that may help beginners with a good eye . At the end of the video when you are talking about the bitting of the key and you show your key there is a mismatch. You decode the lock with the Lishi tool as 2112433442 or 21 (12) 43 (34) 42. I think you are off by 1 digit or depth on each of the bottom numbers (numbers inside parenthesis). I paused your video on your key and read the cuts of the key as 2123434542 or 21 (23) 43 (45) 42. When I replayed your video, you appear to be reading the Lishi tool correctly but I think your tool might have gotten a little bent or tweaked. If you add 1 to each of your numbers inside of parenthesis you get my bitting. If you look closely at your key there are no two cuts the same height next to each other. If there were your key would have a longer “flat spot”. Your verbal bitting call-out has 3 sets of cuts at the same depth next to each other, a 11, a 33, and a 44. If this was your case you would have 3 longer “flat spots” and your key does not look like that. In fact each one of your 10 spaces is only one depth different, in either direction, to the space next to it except for the #1 and #2 spaces. That space (closest to the bow) has a depth difference of 2 and that can be seen by a steeper ramp between the 4 depth and the 2 depth.
Which Autolock decoder works on the door locks for Commercial trucks? Freightliner, Peterbilt etc?
awesome video and very cool tool!
Very nice and smart tool... nice explanation i really want it!!
Very nice tutorial 👍
Thanks for the demo Mr. Bill -- well done
Soo, do you know if you would you be able to start the ignition on a 1980's Ford Bronco with this tool?
This is a really cool tool, hope I win this one! I'm impressed with these finds you share bill, thanks for the great content !
Newbie question. If the cylinder can only rotate when all of the pins (or wafers - whatever the proper terminology is) are at their proper depth... I dont understand how it can 'partially rotate' when just some of the pins are at the proper depth. For as long as any single pin is not at the proper depth - shouldn't that single pin prevent the cylinder from rotating? Thanks for explaining...
These tools are great to use but takes practice and make sure the lock is not gummed up by using plastic safe cleaner... just lubricate after your done
Interesting tool, thanks for the explanation. Thanks to Adam A for his input!
Great little tool, just so pricey.
And this one done 3 time as much as the typical. But the decoding is worth its weight in Gold. Lol
Thanks for sharing.
Nice tool for decoding! but I don't like that it's not fully universal. If it was, I think it's be well worth buying. But for just standard entry, I'll sick with door wedges and/or slim Jim's. Those are typically universe lol
What a great tool 😀
Very good video, so how would you enter this key code into a cut to code machine (xhorse Dolphin) , im not sure if you read it left to right or right to left, thanks
🤔🤔🤔😎Insightful and informative.
Great way to get the most out of a tool, thanks for making this video😘👍👍
Awesome show
The chart matches the one on the tool! 2-2-2-2 alternating
That will only hold true for the training lock, which is designed that way.
Second newbie question... In this example we see that for the ten 'wafers' that are opposing. Left wafers having springs happen to be #10,9,6,5,2,1. Right wafers having springs happen to be MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE OF THIS - or #8,7,4,3. Is this mutual exclusivity always true? Or can there ever be a case where the same wafer number has a spring in both the left and right position?
Cool! I was wondering if you were going to review this item, I see a lot of locksmiths that just LOVE this pick.. But you don't see much locksporters using it for obvious reasons.. Thanks a lot for sharing Bill, I'm working towards becoming a locksmith and I might just have to invest in these one day..
Nice lockpicking
Whow...very nice tool!!!!
Wow! That was great. I really would love to have that.
pretty cool. very informative
Which Lishi model is used for a 2004 Toyota Tacoma? Thanks for the help
And progressions all depend of the quality of the door lock. Ive spent hours on certain vehicles bc my tool read 1 cute wrong by 1 depth while it not only turned in the door but I spent an hour or two going thru progressions with the wrong cut/cuts
You will notice the live wafers have the number on that side. Must be a default lock config.
10,9 top 8,7 bottom, 6,5 top, 4,3 bottom, 2,1 top.
I know this was four years ago but, is it the same basic process today on most cars?
Wow, that was pretty cool
Amusing to think of trying to pick a car lock...every time we have been locked out they use a pad thing with a blood preasure cuf like pump and pry the window corner away then just reach in with a rod/hook and grab the handle or poke the unlock button. Maybe 30 seconds tops to open it.
Thanks
Thank you
Have you tried the Honda HU66?
Couldn’t understand the sequence although I turned it 45• twice but couldn’t finish the process and decode it
Does these decoder picks work for classic cars like 1964 lincoln contenental. We lost our keys wondering the best one for ignition and door locks
@730 you said make a chart but the tool already has them laid out to show you which were on the top and bottom respectively
The audio was very good.
Autolocksmith know the wafer directions and sequences for fast picking them. They make the job easier but given how many there are it's expensive if you aren't in the trade. I have about 60 of them and I don't have all of them. You should try the new vag locks with 4 sided laser cut keys. Their easy but the pick looks v futuristic.
Pretty cool
Really cool
Can the lishi's open laser cut key locks or just standard wafers?
Semilovr12 HU101 is a laser profile. They have tools for both.
How do you register on locklab ? i really can't find it.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Middle of the page, HUGE purple button marked "Weekend Review Giveaway". Try that one.
Thank you my wife lost key before cost me 80gbp just for lock Smith to unlock car I’m assuming the hu66 works the same
Bill, you bring me Zen.
the numbers on the tool are either on one side or the other one, and they seem to indicate which level should be used for each of the 10 cuts
This tool is not made for gaining entry to a vehicle even though you can open car that way. Its made for "lost keys". Instead of taking door apart to remove lock cylinder to find lock code to cut a key. You pick the lock with Lishi Tool so then you can then read the wafers in door key lock so you then can cut a key without taking customer's door all apart to take out lock cylinder out for key code. And it's less work and faster then taking door apart (door panel and other parts) and reassembly. If you can actually pick lock over to read the wafers. Cylinder must be pick over to read wafers cuts.
Can not agree on thet. What is then the Lishi Readers for? The 2-in-1 can do both.
They seems so good, and i really like the invention. They must have turned the auto lockpicking up-side-down, as I see it. But you'll need a bunch of them and it get fairly expensive.
But for those using them daily, they just become cheap.
At our store we can not justify the cost, with too few asking for a car door open. And I can't understand why there should be so many ppl lock in their keys (or lose them) daily.
And if people lost their keys, you also have to program in a new key to the car. The Lishi only opens the door (can turn the ignition as well), but will not start the car.
Wish I had some Lishis to try out. Becaus they need a lot of practice to work out (some are easier, but some evil).
man, im a locksmith, or ex locksmith, i used these on a daily, i had thought about sending you a set to try out with some locks, but never went to the junk yard to find some locks, and never got the chance, if you want to see a wider variety let me know, i would love for you to check them out, but if it does not interest you thats fine
Thank you! Yes, it was quite a challenge to learn this new tool and I'd be interested to see if the skill translates over to other models of the pick and different locks. I appreciate your kind offer. The address is: LockLab, P.O. Box 2160, Merrifield, VA 22116. THANKS!
yeah, they absolutely feel different, ill send my kit for you to check out, and ill look around see if i can find some locks lying around my old locksmithing stuff wish i could start my own business, instead of self contracting like i used to, i may ask for them back if i ever do, but until then, im happy as all hell being a bike mechanic xD
Can you use them on ignitions??