I'm really sad we dont have to see Emmet in the game, imagine both haviong lost memories, and helping each other to retrieve it without knowing their common past
@@K.Shino_ he’s from BW and is one of two people who run the battle subway. Which is basically the games Battle Tower. I forget if he runs singles or doubles I know his colleague Emmet runs the other
Well the truth, for me, is that I believe that the ancestor of these two is that technically he was called ingo and at the time, when he was born ingo (Actual BW) in his family as an honor to his ancestor they gave him the same name as his ancestor , For it is the confusion that the ancestor of the twins Subway bosses of the same name
I was commenting to my wife about how sad it was for Cylene’s family to fall so far, and drag descendants of others into evil. It’s clear to me that eventually Cylene takes control of Galaxy and eventually Cyrus, her descendant, warps it into team Galactic. She would be so ashamed of him.
The same goes to the ancestors of the members of Team Galactic, they would be ashamed how far their descendants had fallen, but still this good story writing tbh
Another possibility is that modern team galactic is not the same as the galactic-expedition, just Cyrus digging up some information on his ancestor and using a patriotic name for his extremestic organisation to get goodwill from the public.
@@lenka781 Kinda yeah given that over time, the genetic traits that make you will be spread out among your descendants who could have kids together (inbred or not) there would be a slight chance that all your traits could be replicated by someone down the line. Which in turn would make you again. The Quantum Leap part though does seem wrong as there isn't that many generations to work with unless we're talking some serious Alabama family trees here.
I like how they gave the 3 bandits pokes that the ancestors use clover/candice, abamasnow Coin/saturn, toxicroak Charm/agatha and bertha, gengar/rhydon
@@josemejias5656 in Japanese their names are only a letter apart kikuko and Kikuno so it would make sense, even in English they both end the same And I feel like they wouldn’t make them look so similar on accident
It is pretty cool the connection with unova this game seems to give off. A ton of unovan Pokémon with hisuian forms, new force of nature, Clays ancestor, etc. it has nods to pretty much every other region too
I like how they're not all ancestors to just Sinnoh characters, but characters from all over. Really gives a bigger sense of interconnection. Something BDSP lacked...
This game answered a lot of stuff that has happened in the Sinnoh region and other based lore. This is my favorite Pokémon game and hopefully we’ll get more like this
I like how all the ancestors have distinctive facial features or hair colors that clearly indicate who their descendants are, and then you have Lian with *h a t*
Imagine if palkia and dialga went into a frenzy causing a space time distortion merging past and future causing the present descendants meet their ancestors as a DLC ... I can't fathom how a kind hearted arezu becomes an antagonistic mars.
if I remember correctly, in the pokemon tie-in manga for sinnoh, Mars turns on Galactic in the climax of the story and fights Satern. I could be wrong however as it's been almost a decade since I've read the manga. Edit: Went to the wiki (Used Bulbapedia) and it turns out I was partially correct, both Satern and Mars turn on Galactic. On an unrelated note, just remembered that the version of dawn in that manga was aged up but still had the same outfit and it had a fairly short shirt and, if I remember correctly, made her chest a bit too prominent.
A lotttt of people are saying she looks like one of the two rivals from Pokémon Duel, and I can kinda see it! It would be neat if they were acknowledging some of their spin-off franchises, though I think that one is a bit too random/niche.
I can see the clan leaders being original, especially since I’m hard pressed to name anyone who looks close to Adaman, but I think it would be weird to have most of the wardens be ancestors to known characters and just a few random newbies out of no where
@@NYXREBORN then why does he look exactly like dawn and lucas? my theory is that after the pearl/platinum diamond events a few years passed and the MC fell into the spacetime rift
you know what? I thought that wasn’t the case… until i read this comment and it all makes sense, pokemon legends arceus is literally lucas/dawn time travling thanks to the space rift and because of that some residents of the hisui region are aware of this, IMAGINE THE ENDING OF LEGENDS ARCEUS!
@@NYXREBORN 5:26 Nah! He seems to know Ingo though. 🤔 Journeying with you? In this New World? What does that mean!? They Travelled back in time together? 😯 Did we just went back to the Future and fetch him or something!?
That's actually kind of interesting that both Archie and Maxie appear to both have ancestors that were a part of the pearl and diamond clans respectively. Some things never change I suppose
Team Magma's Maxie is one that looks at progress which the diamond clan and time focus on, while Archie believes in nature's preservation and Pearl clan believing in maintaining the old ways and respecting them so fitting their ancestors are in those clans.
Calaba, Mellie, Laventon, Iscan, Palina, Adaman and Irida are probably the ancestors of characters we didn't met yet. I'm not sure Zisu is Buck's ancestor and same thing with Beni and Aaron. And Ingo is just Ingo.
i personally think that calaba is thorton's ancestor (from the gen 4 frontier brains) you can see they both have the droopy eyelids that look more similar than mina's as well as green sections in their hair, with calaba's being slightly more faded.
Nah dog Thorton just looks done with a nine to five from a quick google search meanwhile Mina looks like she took a toke (haha I am hip and cool with the kids who do the drugs sarcasm) from a Hisuian Typhlosion and Calaba looks like that. However yours also make scene if you wanted to keep her blood in Sinnoh
The dead-giveaway with these Ancestor characters is that they have very similar hair styles + colours to other characters. Calaba isn't anybody's ancestor because she doesn't have a unique hair style. It's the same with a lot of these characters in this video. You're basing it on the eye shape, but Calaba and Thorton's eyes are completely different up-close. You're wrong. Sorry.
You know what i like about Volo? He literally has a togepi and a gible in his team last time i battled him… and because cynthia has garchomp as her ace and togekiss on her team… yeah hes the ancestor of cynthia… whats next hes gotta get a shellos or a feebas? But damn irida is may’s ancestor? What about brendan? OR BARRY?! Actually, i don’t wanna know at all, for now i’m kinda surprised that volo almost has some of cynthia’s pokemon.
Pretty sure the main character cant be the ancestor because he is from the future he even has a phone which gen 4 dosent have which means he might even be from the future after the events of gen 4.
@@KZN02 either he got sent back too Or he doesn't know ingo did, and unless ingo makes it back, dies not knowing what happened to his brother Yeah Sad shit
I have seen time travel shows where a family bloodline was created only because the person was sent in the past. So its possible that ingo could stay in the past and create his very own family then future ingo being destined to go into past. Like a cycle.
We know that Kamado is the ancestor to Professor Rowan because they flat out told us that was the case in an early trailer for the game. However seeing that Komado is known in game to use sumo moves on both people and Pokémon alike I feel like that there's a non-zero chance that he could also be the ancestor to Drayden from the Gen V games.
Irida doesn't resemble May at all... And deep down, we all know that player characters would get explicit ancestor doubles only if the region they debuted in will get this same kind of game.
Wait, ingo isn't a ancestor, they are the same person. (Spoilers) In the main story, ingo was transported into the rift, like you, and is sent to the hisui region in the past
1:45 I thought he'd be Brycen's ancestor due to both of them having long blue hair; then again, he could be related to both Brycen and Wulfric. 3:58 Maybe she or one of her descendants was used as the template for the Nurse Joy clones?
@@Ruinous_Dev its a mix of both. think about it, Avery and Lucian both use psychic types, and Lucian has purple hair, while Avery has long hair. Melli was suppose to be a mixture of both, all the mannerisms from Avery are on Melli
Even though Iscan isn’t in this video but I get the feeling Iscan is the ancestor of Marlon. The eighth gym leader for Black & White 2. There both fishermen and have blue hair. I mean it’s not 100% confirmed, but I get huge connection vibes between the two.
Mars got such a damn glow up in this game. She was usually just a "better option than Jupiter" for me when it came to their portraits in base D/P, but she's actually really cute now.
I actually thought that Volo was Lusamine's ancestor because of all the Æther look resemblance, his desire to research Pokémon and the sense of both loosing their minds eventually because an obsession w/ a legendary pokemon(?)
@@ElectroBlastLuigi Thats precisely the point. I would've liked to see the overworld and cutscenes in this style. The chibi art style just didnt work with some of the more serious cutscenes.
@@ElectroBlastLuigi First of all, I never said anything to the contrary so I'm really not sure what you're on about or why you're getting this defensive. Secondly, just because I disliked the use of them here doesn't mean I hate them in general. So calm down.
Yeah but also remember that most of the galaxy guild came from another region so technically they could of gone back at some point to there home region
I think Sabi is also a Hapu ancestor. They are both short, use ground-types, and coincidentally have the same face from their eyebrows to the pink cheeks
Sanqua has to also be an ancestor to clair in the side quest with the pichu in her house you can look in her closet and it says there is a tight suit and a cape in there
I love how this game is a tribute to all the past generations! I love stuff like that! Similar to Cobra Kai almost. I like how some of them look EXACTLY like their ancestors. Like Clover and Candice and Mars and her ancestor! XD
Its strange how there's anyone past gen 5 since the regions aren't in Japan, unless they migrated later down time or this so ancient that somehow all continents still connected
There's characters talking about Galar, a character that states he migrated from Alola. Laventon clearly traveled to Alola, Johto, and Unova based on the starters he's giving out.
Non of characters are born in this region, all of theme came from outside and are trying to study the region the clans and few people in jublife village are the only ones who want to live here, most of the galatic team are going to go back to their home lands later. Btw the entire jublife village is made up of galactic team members or ginko guild members.
@@vansh6038 it’s not feudal Japan, it’s the industrial revolution timeframe which is late 1800s early 1900s. The main games as such could be considered to be based sometime around 2100-2600 considering they have stinking warp panels as standard technology.
I'm seeing a lot of counter claims about ancestry and I need to make one thing perfectly clear Family trees exist One character from this game could be the ancestor of several modern characters, and we won't know anything until it is confirmed by GAME FREAK.
I should also mention I think Arezu might be an ancestor of Silver as well: her eye shape is closer to his, and her hair color about halfway between Mars and Silver's colors, as well as the front of the hair being styled similarly.
[See's Beni] That's Wally. He just changed his name. [Cyllene] Still waiting for her to go "HA! IT WAS ME CYRUS ALL ALONG!!! But, the past is awesome. Let me stay pls."
We really dont know if the player character is actually an ancestor, since you fell through the space-time warp, but the other character you don't choose is definitely an ancestor of dawn or lucas
I was really sad that Azeru turned into Mars in Diamond and pearl. She's probably my favorite character in PLA and to see her descendants turning into egotistical snot rags hurt my heart.
Quick theory, the main protagonist is the same as bdsp main character just 5 years older, they mention he’s around 15 which would make sense if you are 10 in bdsp
@@enderwalkgang They wear shirts from different regions at the beginning of the game (Dawn wears an Alola shirt while Lucas gets a Kalos one), so they probably started traveling between regions after the events of DPPt/BDSP.
I do think Volo has more too him other than just being Cynthia, I think that Cogita is the full ancestor to Cynthia but I feel like Volo is a mix of Cynthia and Ghetsis, either Ghetsis or lucamine. I'm still not sure about Adaman tho
@@kayschut9327 ik that and I'm not saying Yolo isn't Cynthia at all, but, Volo's personality doesn't exactly match Cynthia's, especially towards the post game, so Volo may pull from someone else as well as Cynthia.
@Zkar Zalgo: I think Volo's similarity in appearance to Cynthia was an intentional deception by Game Freak. Unless he's confirmed to be related to her by blood, Cogita is the True Ancestor of Cynthia that they kept hidden for players to discover in-game. If not officially related to Cogita, my best guess to Volo's Descendants is Barry/Noland: They're constantly bumping into you (though Volo's isn't _literal_ ); they have ties to big business - Noland is the Tower Tycoon, after all!; and Volo's knowledge of Hisui can be explained by his association with Cogita. If you've read this far, here's your Spoiler Warning! -------------- Volo also turns out to become manipulated by Giratina into releasing it from the Distortion World: This is something that likely wouldn't work against the Willpower of someone related to Cynthia's bloodline - Noland's on the other hand, would probably be susceptible to mind-control shenanigans...
@@lianaverwood9810 I didn't know who Noland was until I just looked him up. He screams "side character" to me, but that maybe just me tho. But while you do have a point with Cynthia's bloodline having the willpower to go with their own will, further disproving that Cynthia is related to Vol, I don't think they'd take a character as "side character" esc as Noland. What I do think however is that Volo may have the appearance of Cynthia, having her hair colour and eye colour, but because of his personality in the post game and his hair style during the post game. I have to say and stick with Ghetsis. I also don't think Volo was manipulated, but rather using the player as a tool to discover legendary beings and gather the plates to kill arceus with Giratina. Ghetsis did something extremely similar with N, raised him and used him as a tool to take over Unova with a legendary dragon. How he gets giratina, idk which maybe where my thought process kind of falls. But that's just my thought on it tho.
@@zkarzalgo5849 Just so you know, Noland is Barry's Father - that's why I put them together. Noland may seem like more of a side character, but once you factor in his relation to Barry it helps to explain the facial features on Volo. I do feel that Game Freak might be saving an Ancestor of Ghetsis for the potential Sequel to this game if it did well (it did, beyond all expectations), but that and the lack of other distinguishing physical features are the only things I can come up with against Ghetsis. Of course what I've said isn't proof of Volo being related to Noland and Barry, only evidence to explain the aspects of Volo's character that don't match with Barry on his own. And this is only my opinion, I'm not going to push it onto anyone - just making the suggestion and providing evidence.
Ok but if you play as a boy, you're not Lucas' ancestor. You ARE Lucas who was transported from present to past. Edit: Lucas is gen 4 male protagonist's canon name (if you don't know)
Actually the main character in Legends Arceus is the same person in DP. Like come on. His clothes were futuristic and he had a phone. Arceus made him travel back in time. Not an ancestor
The question is: Which MC is canon to the story? If Dawn is, then Rei could be the ancestor to Lucas. If Lucas is Akari could be the ancestor to Dawn. (Dawn and Akari have quite similar names as well as Dawn is called Hikari in japanese)
I'd like to point out something that most likely have overlooked about Pesselle, while Mira does have the same hair color and style she really doesn't look anything like Pesselle. If anything the various Nurse Joys in all the main games look more similar to Pesselle on top of the fact both she and them are nurses. Also I'd like to say I disagree with those saying they don't see the resemblance between Iraida and May cause I do, the second I saw her I thought of May cause they have similar facial structure and also wear similar looking clothes not to mention both wear a bandana that is red. While yes its odd to have one protagonist's ancestor show up yet the other doesn't, who's to say that Iraida's family stays in Hisui/Sinnoh? Perhaps some of her kids decide they'd rather go somewhere thats a good bit warmer and settle there rather than stay where its really cold, I mean if Benny truly is Wally's ancestor (who hints at moving to somewhere much warmer) theres nothing that suggests other ancestors eventually move to the other lands. And Ingo isn't his own ancestor, he's the same Ingo from B/W but got amnesia.
I'd like to think that Volo's family just has a really aggressive piano that they pass down as a heirloom. And Beni might be a potato mochi Ninja, but he doesn't have his descendants bitchin theme.
Ingo, well. He's just the same Ingo as always. He's not an ancestor: he's him.
I'm really sad we dont have to see Emmet in the game, imagine both haviong lost memories, and helping each other to retrieve it without knowing their common past
I never got a chance to play the game he was from. I was bending over backwards trying to figure out who he was 😂
@@K.Shino_ he’s from BW and is one of two people who run the battle subway. Which is basically the games Battle Tower. I forget if he runs singles or doubles I know his colleague Emmet runs the other
Well the truth, for me, is that I believe that the ancestor of these two is that technically he was called ingo and at the time, when he was born ingo (Actual BW) in his family as an honor to his ancestor they gave him the same name as his ancestor , For it is the confusion that the ancestor of the twins Subway bosses of the same name
@@rontheauraknight9606 they actually are twins
I was commenting to my wife about how sad it was for Cylene’s family to fall so far, and drag descendants of others into evil. It’s clear to me that eventually Cylene takes control of Galaxy and eventually Cyrus, her descendant, warps it into team Galactic. She would be so ashamed of him.
The same goes to the ancestors of the members of Team Galactic, they would be ashamed how far their descendants had fallen, but still this good story writing tbh
@@bradwhite5884 Other than Coin...
@@lucysdogdays6781 True, but like how the descendants of the other two sisters had switched, but love to see some reverals too
Perhaps the idea came from (spoiler) during the postgame of LA. (Spoiler) had the goal to create the new world long before Cyrus adopted it.
Another possibility is that modern team galactic is not the same as the galactic-expedition, just Cyrus digging up some information on his ancestor and using a patriotic name for his extremestic organisation to get goodwill from the public.
Ingo isn't ancestor. He's literally the Ingo from Unova.
Yep ^^^ god sent him a text msg as well but instead of catch Pokémon he said “Enjoy amnesia mother f*****”
I mean, it's possible he could be his own ancestor and it's like the one episode of Quantum Leap where the dude is his own grandpa
@@artsyryder that makes no sense you just cant be your own grandparent
@@lenka781 Kinda yeah given that over time, the genetic traits that make you will be spread out among your descendants who could have kids together (inbred or not) there would be a slight chance that all your traits could be replicated by someone down the line. Which in turn would make you again.
The Quantum Leap part though does seem wrong as there isn't that many generations to work with unless we're talking some serious Alabama family trees here.
@@artsyryder like futurama?
I like how they gave the 3 bandits pokes that the ancestors use
clover/candice, abamasnow
Coin/saturn, toxicroak
Charm/agatha and bertha, gengar/rhydon
Wait Agatha and Bertha are related?
@@josemejias5656 ,
Just a theory, never was confirmed i think. But because of Charm's pokemon, i think she's the ancestor of both Bertha and Agatha
@@josemejias5656 Could be that they're distant relatives
@@josemejias5656 in Japanese their names are only a letter apart kikuko and Kikuno so it would make sense, even in English they both end the same
And I feel like they wouldn’t make them look so similar on accident
@@enanoiii Charm iirc also mentions being from Kanto. So, her being Agatha ancestor is possible
The Pokémon lore just expanding more and more in each iteration that's why I still continue with the series
Digimon is better
The devs said not to pay much attention to the overall lore cause it’s not really cohesive and wasn’t written properly to work together
It is pretty cool the connection with unova this game seems to give off. A ton of unovan Pokémon with hisuian forms, new force of nature, Clays ancestor, etc. it has nods to pretty much every other region too
There's people who play for the lore?
@@lesserafim_gidle_FOREVER troll
I like how they're not all ancestors to just Sinnoh characters, but characters from all over. Really gives a bigger sense of interconnection.
Something BDSP lacked...
This game answered a lot of stuff that has happened in the Sinnoh region and other based lore. This is my favorite Pokémon game and hopefully we’ll get more like this
It sold like hot cakes it number 5 in the top 5 best selling Pokemon titles of all time .
@@PepperKatLancer xd
Ye. My previous favorite was ultra moon, but this game just blew it out of the water.
Damn bro the resemblance of Ingo and Ingo were spot on
I’m not sure if you’re joking, but ingo is the same ingo from black and white
@@TheDoremifan1 yes I am joking
Yeah, I know right? It’s mind blowing! 😂
Hopefully Game freak does the same with Generation 5 & 6 with the great war/unseen Pokémons.
Pokemon Legends Zyguard
I’m hoping we see the original dragon for gen 5 if they make more of these.
@@someoneawesome8717 More like, Pokémon Legends AZ’s (never released) Floette
@@Kanethedragon now THAT could be cool
@@Kanethedragon yeah, kalos from 3000 years ago in the great war and the forgot the name canon.
I like how all the ancestors have distinctive facial features or hair colors that clearly indicate who their descendants are, and then you have Lian with *h a t*
I mean, Lian’s eyes and hair match Clay’s eyes and hair so the hat wouldn’t be the only connection.
Clearly, he's into subtlety.
Imagine if palkia and dialga went into a frenzy causing a space time distortion merging past and future causing the present descendants meet their ancestors as a DLC ... I can't fathom how a kind hearted arezu becomes an antagonistic mars.
Or Volo and Coriga realizing their many-great’s granddaughter is an absolute badass with a similar passion for myths.
I do not think so... She just does her job
if I remember correctly, in the pokemon tie-in manga for sinnoh, Mars turns on Galactic in the climax of the story and fights Satern. I could be wrong however as it's been almost a decade since I've read the manga.
Edit: Went to the wiki (Used Bulbapedia) and it turns out I was partially correct, both Satern and Mars turn on Galactic.
On an unrelated note, just remembered that the version of dawn in that manga was aged up but still had the same outfit and it had a fairly short shirt and, if I remember correctly, made her chest a bit too prominent.
@@griffstanker670 hmmmmmm...interesting (*Cynthia-related?*) hmmmmmm...
@@ellienugent2000 volo vs cynthia
Volo's final battle proves without a doubt that he is the ancestor of cynthia
Same team, remixed music, same blonde with one eye covered
Just with the goals of a certain someone else. It would explain why Cynthia is more active in Platinum with regard to stopping said someone else.
And also is Barry and his Dad related?
Like say his aunt?
As in is Cynthia Barry's Aunt?
Just 1derng
I really don’t see May or Serena in Irida. I think she’s just an original character.
I'm sure the clan leaders, 3-4 of the wardens and the Professor are all original characters or ancestors of future gen characters
A lotttt of people are saying she looks like one of the two rivals from Pokémon Duel, and I can kinda see it! It would be neat if they were acknowledging some of their spin-off franchises, though I think that one is a bit too random/niche.
I can see the clan leaders being original, especially since I’m hard pressed to name anyone who looks close to Adaman, but I think it would be weird to have most of the wardens be ancestors to known characters and just a few random newbies out of no where
She looks really similar to paulo from masters tbh
How about Misty ?
Just saying, Ingo is the same ingo from black and white, just also a time traveler
He just doesn't know it.
Not time traveler, he got in the same situation as the protagonist. Except not falling from a mysterious rift where god himself came out of XD
They're botj Fallers, like Anabel in Sun and Moon.
this
He could technically be his own ancestor though, lol
The playable character you choose in PLA is Dawn or Lucas (time travel) and the character you didn't choose in PLA is Rei or Akari
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Think the MC is just a random child from our world
@@NYXREBORN then why does he look exactly like dawn and lucas? my theory is that after the pearl/platinum diamond events a few years passed and the MC fell into the spacetime rift
you know what? I thought that wasn’t the case… until i read this comment and it all makes sense, pokemon legends arceus is literally lucas/dawn time travling thanks to the space rift and because of that some residents of the hisui region are aware of this, IMAGINE THE ENDING OF LEGENDS ARCEUS!
@@SleepyOtter8806 ive already beat the game. The ending is sick
@@NYXREBORN 5:26 Nah! He seems to know Ingo though. 🤔
Journeying with you? In this New World? What does that mean!?
They Travelled back in time together? 😯
Did we just went back to the Future and fetch him or something!?
That's actually kind of interesting that both Archie and Maxie appear to both have ancestors that were a part of the pearl and diamond clans respectively. Some things never change I suppose
Yeah!!! Thank ypu for explaining this detail to mee!!! I didn't think of it that way!!!
Sabi looks more like Hapu, and I don't think Irida does resemble May. The rest are kinda neat btw.
That's what I thought
Sabi and Cheryl’s hair are identical, if you look at character art of Cheryl
Irida looks like Serena to me
@@chohouse711 Serena doesn't have a short hair in the games. It was anime only.
@@wikiuser92 You can get the same exact hair cut that Serena has in the games.
Glad I’m not the only one who thought Volo was cougar chasing Cogita.
Clearly he was successful, and their genes managed to produce the modern god of Pokémon that is their many-great’s granddaughter Cynthia.
for me Volo and Cogita are already related
this is absolutely amazing how you were able to find all of these out!
Team Magma's Maxie is one that looks at progress which the diamond clan and time focus on, while Archie believes in nature's preservation and Pearl clan believing in maintaining the old ways and respecting them so fitting their ancestors are in those clans.
Love how Ingo's just here.
He's not an ancestor btw it's just Ingo.
Calaba, Mellie, Laventon, Iscan, Palina, Adaman and Irida are probably the ancestors of characters we didn't met yet.
I'm not sure Zisu is Buck's ancestor and same thing with Beni and Aaron.
And Ingo is just Ingo.
Rei>Dawn
Akari>Lucas
The french version make it more obvious.
Rei: Aurel
Dawn: Aurore
Akari: Lucia
Lucas: Louca
Buck and Flint are brothers so if Zisu is Flint's ancestor, she's Buck's too
Palina is quiet similar to Ilima, I think?
@@SoapyPartiallyCleanDishes Can I have the link of where it is said?
@@justinganaden7149 The eyes and the hair doesn't really match.
(I won't say skin colors since Alola is a very sunny region)
i personally think that calaba is thorton's ancestor (from the gen 4 frontier brains)
you can see they both have the droopy eyelids that look more similar than mina's as well as green sections in their hair, with calaba's being slightly more faded.
Nah dog Thorton just looks done with a nine to five from a quick google search meanwhile Mina looks like she took a toke (haha I am hip and cool with the kids who do the drugs sarcasm) from a Hisuian Typhlosion and Calaba looks like that. However yours also make scene if you wanted to keep her blood in Sinnoh
Maybe both Thornton and Mina are related?
The dead-giveaway with these Ancestor characters is that they have very similar hair styles + colours to other characters. Calaba isn't anybody's ancestor because she doesn't have a unique hair style. It's the same with a lot of these characters in this video. You're basing it on the eye shape, but Calaba and Thorton's eyes are completely different up-close.
You're wrong. Sorry.
@@jadduck cry
@@user-ye9bc7nw2c It's okay, it's just a theory. No need to get upset bro x
Also Palina is burgh, she has a butterfly on her scarf and Iscan is Lenora, lives with normal types, both unovan, maybe why they like eachother.
You know what i like about Volo? He literally has a togepi and a gible in his team last time i battled him… and because cynthia has garchomp as her ace and togekiss on her team… yeah hes the ancestor of cynthia… whats next hes gotta get a shellos or a feebas?
But damn irida is may’s ancestor? What about brendan? OR BARRY?! Actually, i don’t wanna know at all, for now i’m kinda surprised that volo almost has some of cynthia’s pokemon.
You'll find out soon enough, you get to fight him after the main story but I won't spoil it for you :)
*laugh in distance*
I like how Volo being consumed by Giratina's wickedness is so similar to Lusamine being brainwashed by Nihilego.
@@justinganaden7149 I agree, but uh... Spoilers dude
I think Volo is the ancestor to:
1. Cynthia
2. Barry
3. Bianca
4. Lusamine
5. Lillie
6. Gladion
Pretty sure the main character cant be the ancestor because he is from the future he even has a phone which gen 4 dosent have which means he might even be from the future after the events of gen 4.
The protagonist on what you don’t choose is the Ancestor.
The protagonist what you do choose isn’t related.
He/she is the Protagonist of D&P just older
i think the PLA protags are DPPt protags but now they are 15 years old instead of 10/11/12
@@arek.k8688 this is what I was thinking. Lore wise this sets up a cycle in time if true and thts pretty cool. Some Black Ops zombies shit
Ingo is Not an Ancestor! They're One in the same.
Yup! Ingo is Ingo.
The question is, what happened to Emmet?
That’s a great question….
@@KZN02 either he got sent back too
Or he doesn't know ingo did, and unless ingo makes it back, dies not knowing what happened to his brother
Yeah
Sad shit
I have seen time travel shows where a family bloodline was created only because the person was sent in the past.
So its possible that ingo could stay in the past and create his very own family then future ingo being destined to go into past. Like a cycle.
Some of these seem spot on and intentional, others seem like a stretch or drawing conclusions from the most random of details.
I laughed so hard at Candice's ancestor when I first saw her. My reaction: "Candice's ancestor is a common thief!???? LMFAO"
We know that Kamado is the ancestor to Professor Rowan because they flat out told us that was the case in an early trailer for the game. However seeing that Komado is known in game to use sumo moves on both people and Pokémon alike I feel like that there's a non-zero chance that he could also be the ancestor to Drayden from the Gen V games.
Volo related to: Cynthia
But how he acted like: Lusamine
Irida doesn't resemble May at all...
And deep down, we all know that player characters would get explicit ancestor doubles only if the region they debuted in will get this same kind of game.
Wait, ingo isn't a ancestor, they are the same person. (Spoilers)
In the main story, ingo was transported into the rift, like you, and is sent to the hisui region in the past
But that begs the question. If Ingo was here then what happen to Emmet? Did he also got transported or he got left behind as soon Ingo disappeared?
That might have also happened, but who knows
I wonder if Archie's and Maxie's ancestor has some issues like their decendants, so i can make a "like ancestors, like decendants" jokes XD
ingo isnt ingo's ancestor, it's literally just ingo
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I thought he'd be Brycen's ancestor due to both of them having long blue hair; then again, he could be related to both Brycen and Wulfric.
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Maybe she or one of her descendants was used as the template for the Nurse Joy clones?
Makes you wonder with some of these characters, why everybody in the family kept the same hairstyle for hundreds of years.
I’m assuming we will see Adaaman and Irida’s ancestors in the next generation of pokemon
I actually think theyre both related to Gordie and Melony
@@komomn Hair is there, but I'm still hoping my theory of them being descendants of the future character's in GEN 9 is the correct thing
i really thought those two were barry's ancestors. adaman always gotta go fast and has brown eyes and irida's sassy and has the blonde hair.
Melli and Avery is too loose for me imo. Reminds me way more of Lucian.
Personality wise it really fits though.
Ikr, ngl just because they share the same personality, doesn't mean anything, Lucian fits alot more design wise i think
@@Ruinous_Dev its a mix of both. think about it, Avery and Lucian both use psychic types, and Lucian has purple hair, while Avery has long hair. Melli was suppose to be a mixture of both, all the mannerisms from Avery are on Melli
@@ImQuirkless ah i see, i can see that, i wish he actually had some sort of psychic powers tho
Melli literally reuses Avery’s animations
Even though Iscan isn’t in this video but I get the feeling Iscan is the ancestor of Marlon. The eighth gym leader for Black & White 2. There both fishermen and have blue hair. I mean it’s not 100% confirmed, but I get huge connection vibes between the two.
That'd be so fun
Mars got such a damn glow up in this game. She was usually just a "better option than Jupiter" for me when it came to their portraits in base D/P, but she's actually really cute now.
Did you realise that all 3 bandits had pokemon relating to their descendance
I actually thought that Volo was Lusamine's ancestor because of all the Æther look resemblance, his desire to research Pokémon and the sense of both loosing their minds eventually because an obsession w/ a legendary pokemon(?)
This just makes me want a D/P remake in this art style even more.
This kinda is? The entire sinnoh map is here.
And we did get that in BDSP. Just in certain cutscenes and battles, not the overworld.
@@ElectroBlastLuigi Thats precisely the point. I would've liked to see the overworld and cutscenes in this style. The chibi art style just didnt work with some of the more serious cutscenes.
@@MayCryist Just because its set in Sinnoh doesn't mean its D/P. But yeah, this is probably the closest thing we're gonna get.
@@ElectroBlastLuigi First of all, I never said anything to the contrary so I'm really not sure what you're on about or why you're getting this defensive. Secondly, just because I disliked the use of them here doesn't mean I hate them in general. So calm down.
Damn, so many characters are technically from Hisui/Sinnoh, even characters that live far away now, like Unova and Alola
Yeah but also remember that most of the galaxy guild came from another region so technically they could of gone back at some point to there home region
If we do get DLC for this I really hope Emmett gets to reunite with Ingo
*Sees Volo while the PTSD entensifies*
I think Sabi is also a Hapu ancestor. They are both short, use ground-types, and coincidentally have the same face from their eyebrows to the pink cheeks
>uses DPP footage
>also uses BDSP footage
Make up your mind already! Lmao
I’m curious how you found out some of these, I would have never guessed a few of them.
Luck
@@UnownDepth as in he just guessed? Cuz I mean some I can understand the connection but others like Beni being related to Wally surprised me.
@@ktoon4725 understandable
Sanqua has to also be an ancestor to clair in the side quest with the pichu in her house you can look in her closet and it says there is a tight suit and a cape in there
Funny that Ginter sitting references Volkner's sitting artwork from the DP series lol
I find it funny how a Team Galactic member is the descendant of one of the nicest people in the game
I'm afraid of Candice's ancestor her appearance frightens me.
who's candice
@@Amonut run while you still can
@@Amonut candice guy have a nice day
@@Amonut lmaooo, runnn
@@Amonut ._.
I love how this game is a tribute to all the past generations! I love stuff like that! Similar to Cobra Kai almost.
I like how some of them look EXACTLY like their ancestors. Like Clover and Candice and Mars and her ancestor! XD
Basically if they have the same hair, they’re related.
I mean, if that wasn't the case, then most ancestry findings would be a stretch.
Cogita:
If Lady Dimitrescu & Cynthia are fused together
C'mon I can't be the only one?😆
Its strange how there's anyone past gen 5 since the regions aren't in Japan, unless they migrated later down time or this so ancient that somehow all continents still connected
No it's based on feudal Japan
So they migrated from different regions already revealed in PLA
There's characters talking about Galar, a character that states he migrated from Alola.
Laventon clearly traveled to Alola, Johto, and Unova based on the starters he's giving out.
Non of characters are born in this region, all of theme came from outside and are trying to study the region the clans and few people in jublife village are the only ones who want to live here, most of the galatic team are going to go back to their home lands later.
Btw the entire jublife village is made up of galactic team members or ginko guild members.
@@vansh6038 it’s not feudal Japan, it’s the industrial revolution timeframe which is late 1800s early 1900s. The main games as such could be considered to be based sometime around 2100-2600 considering they have stinking warp panels as standard technology.
Excuse me, Nintendo Unity? HOW THE HELL IS CALABA MINA'S ANCESTOR. THEY DON'T EVEN LOOK ALIKE NOT EVEN THE SLIGHTEST?
Arezu is lovely... im sorry but short haired girls are my weakness
It’s kinda funny how Candice’s ancestor is a bandit
How is it funny
If you think about it Candice is a good person in Diamond and Pearl but her ancestor is bad
I should've known Gaeric resembling Wulfric wasn't a stretch, so Wulfric has ancestry from way out of Kalos 🤔
I like how you can tell whos an ancestor of who by the hair style lol
Ingo is just ingo, he too fell thru the rift like the protag but ended up losing his memories
So this means that Saturn, Candice, Bertha, and Agatha are all related even if it’s only distantly.
nah, theyre from different clans so im p sure its more of a sisterhood type thing than them actually being sisters
I love the concept of characters being related :3
Alternative title: Meeting familiar faces for 9 minutes
I'm seeing a lot of counter claims about ancestry and I need to make one thing perfectly clear
Family trees exist
One character from this game could be the ancestor of several modern characters, and we won't know anything until it is confirmed by GAME FREAK.
I should also mention I think Arezu might be an ancestor of Silver as well: her eye shape is closer to his, and her hair color about halfway between Mars and Silver's colors, as well as the front of the hair being styled similarly.
@@anonymousfog501 That would make her Giovanni's ancestor.
@@LittleAl016 Not necessarily. We've never seen Silver's mother.
@@anonymousfog501 True. But at the same time, we don't know what she looks like.
Who else started screaming swear words when Volo whipped out Garchomp?
I think Calaba is also looks similar to Ramos, the Grass Type Gym Leader in Kalos Region.
Amazing to see charon get some more love
Oh damn I thought the pink haired lady was a Proto-nurse joy. I didn’t even realize there was an even closer match
[See's Beni]
That's Wally. He just changed his name.
[Cyllene]
Still waiting for her to go "HA! IT WAS ME CYRUS ALL ALONG!!! But, the past is awesome. Let me stay pls."
We really dont know if the player character is actually an ancestor, since you fell through the space-time warp, but the other character you don't choose is definitely an ancestor of dawn or lucas
Clay will always be SMOL
ZISU IS RELATED TO RONALD MCDONALD?!
All these black and white references in the game there has to be a remake being make
Is it me or Candice, Saturn, and Agatha (or Bertha) are actually distant relatives?
A side by side comparison would be nice
I was really sad that Azeru turned into Mars in Diamond and pearl. She's probably my favorite character in PLA and to see her descendants turning into egotistical snot rags hurt my heart.
Quick theory, the main protagonist is the same as bdsp main character just 5 years older, they mention he’s around 15 which would make sense if you are 10 in bdsp
Also explains why they are such a monster at pkmn battle, they were at some point a Champion.
The means conically it took them about five years to cross the region maybe at most
@@enderwalkgang They wear shirts from different regions at the beginning of the game (Dawn wears an Alola shirt while Lucas gets a Kalos one), so they probably started traveling between regions after the events of DPPt/BDSP.
I didn't expect to know that Lian is a descendent of Clay from Pokemon Black and White.
The generations really elevated Candice's family if you know what I mean.
And now we know that Liam is also an ancestor of Lacey.
WAIT! That's Irida girl is reallly May's ancestor!? Holy cow!😮
Lian is obvious due to the hat, if Lian didn't have the hat, no one would know who he's the ancestor of
I do think Volo has more too him other than just being Cynthia, I think that Cogita is the full ancestor to Cynthia but I feel like Volo is a mix of Cynthia and Ghetsis, either Ghetsis or lucamine. I'm still not sure about Adaman tho
There's no reason Cogita and Volo can't both be though
@@kayschut9327 ik that and I'm not saying Yolo isn't Cynthia at all, but, Volo's personality doesn't exactly match Cynthia's, especially towards the post game, so Volo may pull from someone else as well as Cynthia.
@Zkar Zalgo: I think Volo's similarity in appearance to Cynthia was an intentional deception by Game Freak. Unless he's confirmed to be related to her by blood, Cogita is the True Ancestor of Cynthia that they kept hidden for players to discover in-game.
If not officially related to Cogita, my best guess to Volo's Descendants is Barry/Noland: They're constantly bumping into you (though Volo's isn't _literal_ ); they have ties to big business - Noland is the Tower Tycoon, after all!; and Volo's knowledge of Hisui can be explained by his association with Cogita.
If you've read this far, here's your Spoiler Warning!
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Volo also turns out to become manipulated by Giratina into releasing it from the Distortion World: This is something that likely wouldn't work against the Willpower of someone related to Cynthia's bloodline - Noland's on the other hand, would probably be susceptible to mind-control shenanigans...
@@lianaverwood9810 I didn't know who Noland was until I just looked him up. He screams "side character" to me, but that maybe just me tho. But while you do have a point with Cynthia's bloodline having the willpower to go with their own will, further disproving that Cynthia is related to Vol, I don't think they'd take a character as "side character" esc as Noland.
What I do think however is that Volo may have the appearance of Cynthia, having her hair colour and eye colour, but because of his personality in the post game and his hair style during the post game. I have to say and stick with Ghetsis. I also don't think Volo was manipulated, but rather using the player as a tool to discover legendary beings and gather the plates to kill arceus with Giratina. Ghetsis did something extremely similar with N, raised him and used him as a tool to take over Unova with a legendary dragon. How he gets giratina, idk which maybe where my thought process kind of falls. But that's just my thought on it tho.
@@zkarzalgo5849 Just so you know, Noland is Barry's Father - that's why I put them together. Noland may seem like more of a side character, but once you factor in his relation to Barry it helps to explain the facial features on Volo.
I do feel that Game Freak might be saving an Ancestor of Ghetsis for the potential Sequel to this game if it did well (it did, beyond all expectations), but that and the lack of other distinguishing physical features are the only things I can come up with against Ghetsis.
Of course what I've said isn't proof of Volo being related to Noland and Barry, only evidence to explain the aspects of Volo's character that don't match with Barry on his own. And this is only my opinion, I'm not going to push it onto anyone - just making the suggestion and providing evidence.
For me Irida looks more like Serena ancestor (or Lillie ancestor but with blue eyes)
Irida and May have practically the same face
Serena doesn't have a short hair in the games.
Serena's a player avatar. Irina isn't.
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Aw man, I was jamming to the Unova Gym Leader Theme!
Everyone: gets a cutscene of gameplay
Leon and Hop: 👨👦
Mar’s ancestor is just clever, Arezu, Arez, Ares, MARS!
Ok but if you play as a boy, you're not Lucas' ancestor. You ARE Lucas who was transported from present to past.
Edit: Lucas is gen 4 male protagonist's canon name (if you don't know)
Finally I’ve been waiting for a video like this to come out!
Actually the main character in Legends Arceus is the same person in DP. Like come on. His clothes were futuristic and he had a phone. Arceus made him travel back in time. Not an ancestor
Hisui is kinda modern day already,it has multiple mentions to galar and alola
But, the lead character is just modern day Dawn and Lucas that gets sent to the past.
The question is: Which MC is canon to the story? If Dawn is, then Rei could be the ancestor to Lucas. If Lucas is Akari could be the ancestor to Dawn. (Dawn and Akari have quite similar names as well as Dawn is called Hikari in japanese)
I'd like to point out something that most likely have overlooked about Pesselle, while Mira does have the same hair color and style she really doesn't look anything like Pesselle. If anything the various Nurse Joys in all the main games look more similar to Pesselle on top of the fact both she and them are nurses.
Also I'd like to say I disagree with those saying they don't see the resemblance between Iraida and May cause I do, the second I saw her I thought of May cause they have similar facial structure and also wear similar looking clothes not to mention both wear a bandana that is red. While yes its odd to have one protagonist's ancestor show up yet the other doesn't, who's to say that Iraida's family stays in Hisui/Sinnoh? Perhaps some of her kids decide they'd rather go somewhere thats a good bit warmer and settle there rather than stay where its really cold, I mean if Benny truly is Wally's ancestor (who hints at moving to somewhere much warmer) theres nothing that suggests other ancestors eventually move to the other lands.
And Ingo isn't his own ancestor, he's the same Ingo from B/W but got amnesia.
More and more lore !!
(Thanks for this video)
I'd like to think that Volo's family just has a really aggressive piano that they pass down as a heirloom.
And Beni might be a potato mochi Ninja, but he doesn't have his descendants bitchin theme.
Seeing these ancestors especially Cyllene it makes me wonder what affected the Galaxy Expedition team? What made them into Team Galactic?