@@Bruh___452 what’s crazy to me about the Punic War, is that Carthage didn’t have to invade Rome when they did. They had the financial advantage and they had more territory, they could have bidded their time for 5-10 years and built the biggest army the world has ever seen till that point with the riches from Spain. Imagine if Carthage had invested the efforts of Hannibal and their armies in to simply defending and keeping Spain from the scipios. Rome also depended heavily on trade to feed its population, and Carthage had control of the seas initially. They could have just raided romes grain shipments from Africa/Egypt for years and crippled them without even setting a foot on Roman soil. They never should have stepped foot on Italy until they had a large enough force to take Rome itself and seige all the major cities around it. Even Hannibal simply pulling out of Italy after the battle of Cannae to go back to crush scipios army in Spain probably would have been enough to tilt things heavily in carthages favor. Rome getting Spain as easily as they did was the reason Carthage ultimately lost the upper hand.
Sadly, there isn't much information on the final Roman conquest of Etruria. That part of history is described in some of Livy's lost books (books 14 and 15 probably). We will cover the Roman expansion into Cisalpine Gaul in the next video in the series.
Rome for all its imperfections teaches us some key valuable lessons for success, adapt with the times! If you fall off the horse you get right back up and eat that horse. Meaning persistence is key! Also lots of dudes ready to die for your cause. Keep your friends close and enemies closer… Then annex both of them! 🤣😂 Most focus on the empire portion of Rome but her republic days were by far the best and supremely entertaining! It’s like watching your child grow up and figure out who they are and what they want.
I wonder if you could have brought some elite Romans from the time of the Middle Republic into the future when the Julio Claudians were in control, would they have been impressed or horrified?
@@illerac84 Not to much difference in terms of gear or formations. Scutum, gladius stayed the same legions of the imperial day got better equipment and more standardized stuff, then the maniple was just a smaller unit in the legion format the imperial side would come to use, probably the weirdest thing to the imperial side to them would be the wealthy guys in the back with spears. And the fact the front was made up of seasonal fighters not professionals. If the middle republic was impressed I would probably say it was by the fact the imperial Legions had grown to 28 full time legions with some 350,000 men if at full strength 5,500 men per legion plus the auxiliaries compared to the 4,200 that composed them then and much less auxiliaries and how they had added to the manipular and scaled it up more so to accommodate this. The real ones that would be impressed would be the early Republic a bunch of phalanx style guys looking at an almost unrecognizable Imperial Rome. 🤣😂
@@illerac84 Lmfao oh easy Horrified at the fact the senators and the public weren’t included in government decisions and all things went through an Emperor or essentially a monarchy. They would probably be curious when this happened so they could avoid it. Which would create 2 scenarios. Kill Caesar as baby and probably loose their greatest General and political man to exist or rather than back him into a corner allowed him back to rome without all the threats of being punished. I always saw Caesar’s power grab as a man who wasn’t going to be labeled a traitor or punished for bringing Rome to its apex peak. If they had played nice I think Caesar would have retired out taken a province to administrate and watched the younger lads have their time. 🤷♂️ I live in the Camp Caesar didn’t wanna be king he wanted to fix a broken and corrupt Republic. Senators forced his hand, murdered him and his adopted Heir decided why not do what dad could have done if he wanted. Found an imperial dynasty 🤣😂
Fun fact (and this is from a certain point of view): The Carthaginians thought the Corvus would blow the Roman ships over in the wind. Unbeknownst to the Carthaginians…it didn’t.
Great video but slight point of contention. The Carthaginian army did not exclusively consist of mercenaries. Carthaginian sacred band units consisted exclusively of citizens, though these formations rarely left Africa. Carthaginian citizens were also frequently found among the cavalry. Mercenaries were the bulk, but many of these mercenaries were more comparable to roman auxillary forces than pure mercenaries. They were often supplied by Carthaginian allies/subjects as a form of tribute.
Yes, this is correct. We also contradict ourselves later in the video about this point. The army also had a large number of Libyans who were more of a levy than mercenaries (although they were also paid).
Question. In your video on the First Samnite war, you questioned Livy’s authenticity citing that his writing about the annexation of Campanians and the sacrifice of 300 men are similar in nature to other more famous events. Specifically, you mentioned that the sacrifice of 300 men bore resemblance to something in the first Punic War. What is that sacrifice in the first Punic war you’re referring to? I ask out of curiosity. Also, I watched your video on the first Samnite war, and then immediately watched all the videos past that. I love your work and that you discuss the sources of the information. Thank you
An excellent question! This even happened during the first consulship of Aulus Atilius Caiatinus (year 258 BCE, or possibly 257 as he was appointed as praetor and his command was prolonged). We are told (again by Livy) that Marcus Calpurnius Flamma led a company of 300 men on a suicide mission, to save the trapped legion. Unfortunately, this is described in Livy's 17th book which is lost to history, so we don't have much information about this incident. In his 22nd book, after a disaster in Cannae, he gives us a quote by Calpurnius: 'Let us,' he exclaimed, 'die, my men, and by our death rescue our blockaded legions from their peril' Other ancient writers don't mention this episode, so the truth is again questioned, although Pliny the Elder does mention that Calpurnius received a grass crown (he was the sole survivor). We decided against mentioning this episode as the details are unclear, and it has no impact on the greater narrative of the story. Hope this answers your question :)
@@MagistraVitae It does thank you. I will see if I can find this before I return the 22nd book to the library. I just finished a report on Livy’s writings on the battle of Cannae and the possibility of Mount Vesuvius erupting a year earlier in 217 BCE contributing to many “omens” the Roman’s thought were being imposed on them. There is evidence from ice cores taken from Greenland that suggests Vesuvius did in fact erupt around that time, which would contribute to some of the omens Livy described such as hot springs going cold (from the earthquakes that followed the eruption) and showers of stones. There were also other sources that mentioned the eruption so it seemed like something worth exploring to try and verify Livy’s claims.
Wait... I've seen this. And even then I wanted to comment that Dido ending her life deserves more than the sound of shattering glass and a scream. Not only because it's strange but because it foreshadows Hasdrubal's wife cursing her husband and burning herself to death.
Most people know, or should know, that Carthage was a colony of Phoenicians and that Syracuse was a Greek colony. But I didn't know the extent of Greek colonization in Southern Italy. We tend to think of things linear with the Sumerian city states, then Egypt, then hittie and Babylonian, then Persian, then greek with Carthage existing to propel the last civilization on the list, the romans to greatness. But Alexander the great was conquering Persia while Carthage was expanding in Spain and Sicily and while Rome was creating hegemony in Italy
280-240 is such a strange time in Roman military history. There's a lot of competent generals, but arguably 0 excellent ones, which seems to be balanced out by a crazy amount of great generals from 225-200. You could very well argue that this was the great lowpoint of Roman generalship for 500 years until another lowpoint during the Crisis. Not sure if that speaks more to how much harder campaigning was during this era, being the first outside of Italy, or just the sheer quality of their opponent, who probably made the Samnites not seem as bad.
Whenever people think we're different from ancient people just look back to any complicated treaty, legal document or political argument. The only difference between the Roman Senate arguing where to send the military to expand is that it was clear and obvious that the argument was driven by the families that would benefit. Now we say its to spread democracy or find WMDs. The romans didn't bother with the pretence
The Cothon Harbour has been dated to have been constructed after the 2nd Punic War. It wouldn't surprise me if it was the brainchild of Hannibal Barca when he was Sophet from 200-195BCE...
I wish someone would make a list of all Easter eggs and jokes or references they notice... every time I watch I notice a few more and I LOVE them. ...Okay, I'll start: at 1:18 in Dido's throne room the paintings: - the "Mona Lisa" which was painted more than 2000 years after this story - maybe a Doctor Who time travel reference? - the other painting is literally called "Dido and Aeneas" - insane level of (subtle?) foreshadowing, or maybe even irony "Aves non sunt vera" (Birds aren't real) sign in the excavation site at 5:45 - I think it's a reference to Roman obsession with bird omens and birds in general, like the Sacred Chicken in this video or Emperor Honorius and his chicken named "Roma"
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Please refrain from using disgusting quotes from disgusting rings of power show so I don't have to dislike 1:06:00
Hopefully Hamilcar won’t take it personally
I hope he doesn't do anything too crazy
Surely he wouldn’t have the audacity to invade Hispania!
@@Bruh___452 what’s crazy to me about the Punic War, is that Carthage didn’t have to invade Rome when they did. They had the financial advantage and they had more territory, they could have bidded their time for 5-10 years and built the biggest army the world has ever seen till that point with the riches from Spain. Imagine if Carthage had invested the efforts of Hannibal and their armies in to simply defending and keeping Spain from the scipios. Rome also depended heavily on trade to feed its population, and Carthage had control of the seas initially. They could have just raided romes grain shipments from Africa/Egypt for years and crippled them without even setting a foot on Roman soil. They never should have stepped foot on Italy until they had a large enough force to take Rome itself and seige all the major cities around it. Even Hannibal simply pulling out of Italy after the battle of Cannae to go back to crush scipios army in Spain probably would have been enough to tilt things heavily in carthages favor. Rome getting Spain as easily as they did was the reason Carthage ultimately lost the upper hand.
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I thought Hannibal had to take his route because of Roman naval power?
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Man this channel is underated. We all gotta spread the word
I like Hamilcar, i hope he doesnt get too mad about the war
I had already seen the individual videos, but an overview is always nice. Love the StarWars references too btw. Cant wait for the second punic war
Let's hope the series continue well into the Byzantine period
18:11 Warcraft III sounds are spot on.
I love adorable history. My fav history Channel since history squares
"The # of colors in the region made conflict inevitable" - I can't stop loving this line/truth/reality.
You and historia civilis are the best roman historians on youtube!❤
Great video!!
This guy is gonna finish the Punic wars before Oversimplified
Can you do the etruscan wars and other conquests to the north as a video? They happened around 272C for etruscans
Sadly, there isn't much information on the final Roman conquest of Etruria. That part of history is described in some of Livy's lost books (books 14 and 15 probably).
We will cover the Roman expansion into Cisalpine Gaul in the next video in the series.
Rome for all its imperfections teaches us some key valuable lessons for success, adapt with the times! If you fall off the horse you get right back up and eat that horse. Meaning persistence is key! Also lots of dudes ready to die for your cause. Keep your friends close and enemies closer… Then annex both of them! 🤣😂 Most focus on the empire portion of Rome but her republic days were by far the best and supremely entertaining! It’s like watching your child grow up and figure out who they are and what they want.
I wonder if you could have brought some elite Romans from the time of the Middle Republic into the future when the Julio Claudians were in control, would they have been impressed or horrified?
@@illerac84 Not to much difference in terms of gear or formations. Scutum, gladius stayed the same legions of the imperial day got better equipment and more standardized stuff, then the maniple was just a smaller unit in the legion format the imperial side would come to use, probably the weirdest thing to the imperial side to them would be the wealthy guys in the back with spears. And the fact the front was made up of seasonal fighters not professionals. If the middle republic was impressed I would probably say it was by the fact the imperial Legions had grown to 28 full time legions with some 350,000 men if at full strength 5,500 men per legion plus the auxiliaries compared to the 4,200 that composed them then and much less auxiliaries and how they had added to the manipular and scaled it up more so to accommodate this. The real ones that would be impressed would be the early Republic a bunch of phalanx style guys looking at an almost unrecognizable Imperial Rome. 🤣😂
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I should have been more clear as I meant the government structure.
@@illerac84 Lmfao oh easy Horrified at the fact the senators and the public weren’t included in government decisions and all things went through an Emperor or essentially a monarchy. They would probably be curious when this happened so they could avoid it. Which would create 2 scenarios. Kill Caesar as baby and probably loose their greatest General and political man to exist or rather than back him into a corner allowed him back to rome without all the threats of being punished. I always saw Caesar’s power grab as a man who wasn’t going to be labeled a traitor or punished for bringing Rome to its apex peak. If they had played nice I think Caesar would have retired out taken a province to administrate and watched the younger lads have their time. 🤷♂️ I live in the Camp Caesar didn’t wanna be king he wanted to fix a broken and corrupt Republic. Senators forced his hand, murdered him and his adopted Heir decided why not do what dad could have done if he wanted. Found an imperial dynasty 🤣😂
Amazing video as always.
Love this story! great version!
Been waiting for this! Next episodes are gonna be great!
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Great Channel ❤
Now is the time for Hannibal
Amazing video, it’s a shame that you don’t have more views
Fun fact (and this is from a certain point of view): The Carthaginians thought the Corvus would blow the Roman ships over in the wind. Unbeknownst to the Carthaginians…it didn’t.
"BOB GET YOUR CAMERA OUT, TAKE A PICTURE OF IT!"
But it did help losing 3 fleets to storms so...
Man Im super tired, made lovely food, and now I can watch it and enjoy. Thanks!!!!!!!
Really great video
Those ancient times were SO epic
CARTHAGO DELENDA EST
Keep going you are doing great❤❤
ONE HOUR OF PEAK QUALITY HISTORY?? oh lordy what did we do to deserve this
Great video but slight point of contention. The Carthaginian army did not exclusively consist of mercenaries.
Carthaginian sacred band units consisted exclusively of citizens, though these formations rarely left Africa.
Carthaginian citizens were also frequently found among the cavalry.
Mercenaries were the bulk, but many of these mercenaries were more comparable to roman auxillary forces than pure mercenaries. They were often supplied by Carthaginian allies/subjects as a form of tribute.
Yes, this is correct. We also contradict ourselves later in the video about this point. The army also had a large number of Libyans who were more of a levy than mercenaries (although they were also paid).
Great work!
Question. In your video on the First Samnite war, you questioned Livy’s authenticity citing that his writing about the annexation of Campanians and the sacrifice of 300 men are similar in nature to other more famous events. Specifically, you mentioned that the sacrifice of 300 men bore resemblance to something in the first Punic War. What is that sacrifice in the first Punic war you’re referring to? I ask out of curiosity.
Also, I watched your video on the first Samnite war, and then immediately watched all the videos past that. I love your work and that you discuss the sources of the information. Thank you
An excellent question! This even happened during the first consulship of Aulus Atilius Caiatinus (year 258 BCE, or possibly 257 as he was appointed as praetor and his command was prolonged).
We are told (again by Livy) that Marcus Calpurnius Flamma led a company of 300 men on a suicide mission, to save the trapped legion.
Unfortunately, this is described in Livy's 17th book which is lost to history, so we don't have much information about this incident. In his 22nd book, after a disaster in Cannae, he gives us a quote by Calpurnius: 'Let us,' he exclaimed, 'die, my men, and by our death rescue our blockaded legions from their peril'
Other ancient writers don't mention this episode, so the truth is again questioned, although Pliny the Elder does mention that Calpurnius received a grass crown (he was the sole survivor).
We decided against mentioning this episode as the details are unclear, and it has no impact on the greater narrative of the story.
Hope this answers your question :)
@@MagistraVitae It does thank you. I will see if I can find this before I return the 22nd book to the library. I just finished a report on Livy’s writings on the battle of Cannae and the possibility of Mount Vesuvius erupting a year earlier in 217 BCE contributing to many “omens” the Roman’s thought were being imposed on them. There is evidence from ice cores taken from Greenland that suggests Vesuvius did in fact erupt around that time, which would contribute to some of the omens Livy described such as hot springs going cold (from the earthquakes that followed the eruption) and showers of stones. There were also other sources that mentioned the eruption so it seemed like something worth exploring to try and verify Livy’s claims.
That's really interesting. I haven't heard of that eruption before
Wait... I've seen this. And even then I wanted to comment that Dido ending her life deserves more than the sound of shattering glass and a scream. Not only because it's strange but because it foreshadows Hasdrubal's wife cursing her husband and burning herself to death.
What do you mean you have seen it? It is brand new!
@@MagistraVitae I mean you`re technically right, but still weird to not at least write in the description that it`s a compilation.
You forgot the part where Regulus fights a fricking dragon
Most people know, or should know, that Carthage was a colony of Phoenicians and that Syracuse was a Greek colony. But I didn't know the extent of Greek colonization in Southern Italy. We tend to think of things linear with the Sumerian city states, then Egypt, then hittie and Babylonian, then Persian, then greek with Carthage existing to propel the last civilization on the list, the romans to greatness. But Alexander the great was conquering Persia while Carthage was expanding in Spain and Sicily and while Rome was creating hegemony in Italy
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280-240 is such a strange time in Roman military history. There's a lot of competent generals, but arguably 0 excellent ones, which seems to be balanced out by a crazy amount of great generals from 225-200. You could very well argue that this was the great lowpoint of Roman generalship for 500 years until another lowpoint during the Crisis. Not sure if that speaks more to how much harder campaigning was during this era, being the first outside of Italy, or just the sheer quality of their opponent, who probably made the Samnites not seem as bad.
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Xanthippus, an unexpected hero.
Scipio Asina... What a comeback!
To clarify, this video contains the entirety of ruclips.net/video/WgFzdwYVyro/видео.html, right?
Yes
Whenever people think we're different from ancient people just look back to any complicated treaty, legal document or political argument. The only difference between the Roman Senate arguing where to send the military to expand is that it was clear and obvious that the argument was driven by the families that would benefit. Now we say its to spread democracy or find WMDs. The romans didn't bother with the pretence
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The Cothon Harbour has been dated to have been constructed after the 2nd Punic War. It wouldn't surprise me if it was the brainchild of Hannibal Barca when he was Sophet from 200-195BCE...
dude i am doing an investigation titled "what was the social class that profited of the destruction of cartaghe" this video is solid gold for me
The answer is always "the rich" 🤣
@@MagistraVitae obviusly, but i need to make a study that not only says so, but it explains, how, where, who in particulally AND etc
Sounds like an interesting topic. I would love to read what you find!
Publius Cladius Pulcher... What an idiot!
I wish someone would make a list of all Easter eggs and jokes or references they notice... every time I watch I notice a few more and I LOVE them.
...Okay, I'll start:
at 1:18 in Dido's throne room the paintings:
- the "Mona Lisa" which was painted more than 2000 years after this story - maybe a Doctor Who time travel reference?
- the other painting is literally called "Dido and Aeneas" - insane level of (subtle?) foreshadowing, or maybe even irony
"Aves non sunt vera" (Birds aren't real) sign in the excavation site at 5:45 - I think it's a reference to Roman obsession with bird omens and birds in general, like the Sacred Chicken in this video or Emperor Honorius and his chicken named "Roma"
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I always think its funny how the victor writes history. Point being the American Civil War is written by .
Hanno the Great has a point.
Long live Lucius Manlius Vulso and Marcus Atilius Regulus!
4:05 "104" in italy is the law of the disabled people lmao
Hanno deserves better.
Hamilcar Barca, the Menace.
"aves non sunt vera" lol
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3:27 AOE2 sound effect. Based.
I love it. Better make the fire galleys
6:46 Polybius took part how?
He followed Scipio around, documenting the war from the first hand. He didn't actually fight in the war, he was around 50 at the time.
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After the success of the new Shōgun series on FX, I do have a dream that they would decide to do a series on the life of Polybius.