Man this is the first channel i have seen that is trying to completely cover the history of roman conquest chronollogically, its like watching a series. I am looking forward to see how the later major events will be represented, like sulla's civil wars, Ceasar's civil war, Aurelian's restoration, justinian's reconquest, basil the second ...
I work long 10 hour shifts as a welder 5 times a week and i work hard and long so when i come home to see upload even though i had msny things to do i still could not stop myself from watching your video they bring me joy and peace i love you (english is mot my first language)
Ah yes, this part of history is always skipped.. always goes, the Romans won the 1st war, the Carthaginians couldn't pay the mercs, then Rome took the other 2 islands
14:35 feigned retreats were by no means simple or easy to pull off. Only a highly disciplined and advanced military prowess would be able to pull something like that off. Even today it would be extraordinarily difficult to pull off, back then it was even more challenging. It shouldn’t be understated how difficult it would have been. Love your videos tho.
Learnt a lot of new things from this video. Carthage must’ve not been the most popular with its subjects considering the amount of support the rebels managed to stir up.
It's in stark contrast to how the Italian cities remained largely faithful in the Second Punic War. Despite Hannibal stomping Legions left and right, he was confounded the other cities never rose up and joined him. Of course, Rome ruined this eventually and they'd have the Social War to pay for it.
En apenas 50 años, Roma sufrió 5 guerras civiles y la Guerra espartaquista (no todos eran esclavos extranjeros) además de varias guerras exteriores no siempre victoriosos. No es de extrañar la rápida pérdida de espíritu militar en Italia. Agotamiento social y muerte de los mejores elementos.
Excellent video just like the rest of them; the attention to details and events happening around Rome really nourishes the understanding of politics and campaigns during the Roman era. Eager to see your next video!!!
People don't realize just how bad the first war was to both sides. Inflation was a problem for the rest of the century across the Roman and Carthaginian realms, and they both needed those silver mines in Spain. They basically fought a war that was so costly to both sides that neither was ever gonna back down, because then all that loss was for nothing. Only the Romans of the 3rd century can match the scale and volume of hardship overcome.
I swear yall are the best. I can only compare it to being like if Oversimplified actually uploaded frequently. Arguably one of the best history RUclips channels and the best for this time period. Keep up the work ❤!
It is also generally not a good idea to base your entire military on foreign mercenaries. Foreign mercs do not care if your country burns or not, they only care if they get paid. They can always go home if things go bad.
Great video. I had always wondered why the Carthaginians would just not pay their mercenaries, as this fact was mentioned but not explored in other videos on the Punic wars I've seen. This video pretty much explains it. Gotta say I can't blame the mercenaries for trying to extort the Carthaginians after not being paid for so long, but they really should have relented when the Carthaginians refused.
There is a reason Carthage was so obsessed with Sardina and why retaking it was seen as a bigger goal than humbling Rome. One reason they never sent Hannibal any backup in the second Punic war was that they didn't agree with his war goals. Sure making an alliance of anti-Roman southern Italiens and Greeks might be nice. But they just wanted Sardinia back. In their minds, Hannibal getting victories was just giving them a bargaining chip to retake Sardinia. And to be honest, that wasn't a bad idea. Trying to resupply Hannibal with no control over Sicily or Sardinia would be difficult. But if they retook Sardinia, then giving Hannibal a bigger army isn't needed, they could just use his presence in Italy to get Rome to say "OK, you can have your island back and here's some money now go away." Plus a Carthaginian presence in Sardinia could threaten Roman grain supply, even if they wouldn't actually risk their fleet in a battle against the Romans. The problem was that at the Battle of Decimomannu, Hasdrubal the Bald got his butt kicked. Now that the Carthaginians didn't have what they really wanted, they would need to take land from the Romans to trade for it, but now resupplying Hannibal was dangerous. Also the Carthaginians thought Rome cheated them out of the islands because they already signed peace after the first Punic war, but Rome basically stole them in the mercenary war.
Only playing Rome II Total war did i actually recently realize the sheer effect, at least psychologically, if not physically, that just a coiple dozen elephants can have on thousands. It is truly astonshimg that an army that is hard to truly imagine how big it is would be so terrified by massive animals that most people will probably never see.
Every time I watch your videos, I'm tempted to go play Imperator Rome. Anyway, another great video! I also like how everyone most of the time has a pretty normal look, but the horses are always angry, lol.
Would be awesome to have a series covering the diadochi and hellenistic era! obviously we will get pieces of that coming up but having a different series would be nice, love the content!
The worst part about the surrender is that Hamilcar feared that 2,200 talents of silver (which were equal to 40 million US Dollars in 2022) would cripple Carthage. And once the Romans altered the terms at the last second, Carthage was infuriated. But Rome really crossed the line by taking advantage of the Mercenary War, taking Sardinia and Corsica, even making Carthage pay even more money. Whatever Rome had hoped to achieve by doing all of this, they only succeeded in enraging Carthage!
Actually🤓, 1 silver talent is 40 million USD more or less, Rome first asked 2200 talents, then switched the terms and asked 3200 talents, after taking Corsica and Sardinia they increased it to 4400 silver talents, so in total Carthage owed Rome more or less 176 billion dollars in today’s money
I'm sure there is missing information or things about the situation I don't understand, but it seems incredibly reckless to bring back combat-hardened mercenary troops to your homeland AND your capital that you intended to stiff on the bill.
No me explico como Roma tenia tantas ganas de extorsionar a Cartago, cuando sus propias reservas humanas debian de estar al limite. Los bosques de Italia estarian talados a estas alturas para reconstruir una flota tras otra. Pienso en la Gran Flota aniquilada por una tempestad al sur de Sicilia con 300 naves y casi 100.000 hombres. Solo la destruccion de la segunda armada de Kublai Khan en Japon se puede comparar.
Polybius covers all major events in the Mediterranean between the years 264 BCE and 146 BCE. He doesn't focus only on Rome, but on Greece and Carthage as well. But, considering that period coincided with a great expansion of Rome it mainly focuses on Roman wars. Sadly most of his work is lost so we have to use the works of later authors.
i think u should change the background music as it is boring and monotonous u should use something that keeps the spectator more engaged like a playlist of classical music
Wouldn't it be cheaper and better to have a locally recruited citizen army, train them and improve them, and not use mercenary? I think the only case for mercenary is when you really have no one now and a war suddenly came up, so you have no time to train and need to use mercenary.
Although the Romans did take Corsica during the expedition in 237, it wasn't a part of this treaty. The details on Corsica are somewhat lacking as most authors don't even mention it.
26:30, not to be entierly unfaire with Hamilcar, when he showed linience the rebels answered with massacres. So he just though that if he let them go they would reorganised and kill more of his people.
A guy named Spendius kicking off a revolt over Carthage's inability to pay will never not be funny to me
I’d suppose it would dissolve to sbendias
Man this is the first channel i have seen that is trying to completely cover the history of roman conquest chronollogically, its like watching a series.
I am looking forward to see how the later major events will be represented, like sulla's civil wars, Ceasar's civil war, Aurelian's restoration, justinian's reconquest, basil the second ...
Sir, have you ever heard of Dovahhatty?
@@NessieAndrew he is in no way nearly as detailed as the videos of this channel.
I work long 10 hour shifts as a welder 5 times a week and i work hard and long so when i come home to see upload even though i had msny things to do i still could not stop myself from watching your video they bring me joy and peace i love you (english is mot my first language)
Thanks for this guide to the most confusing bit of Polybius
Ah yes, this part of history is always skipped.. always goes, the Romans won the 1st war, the Carthaginians couldn't pay the mercs, then Rome took the other 2 islands
The consequences of oversimplified have been a disaster for the human race
@mappingshaman5280 true but I think oversimplified is good for getting people not normally into history interested... I mean it is in the name
@@JOGA_Wills personally I like oversimplified I just like the meme too
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Thank you, its a fresh breath to see creators try to explore new topics instead of doing the 15th video on yt about the same historical event.
14:35 feigned retreats were by no means simple or easy to pull off. Only a highly disciplined and advanced military prowess would be able to pull something like that off. Even today it would be extraordinarily difficult to pull off, back then it was even more challenging. It shouldn’t be understated how difficult it would have been. Love your videos tho.
Didn’t know much about the mercenary war, it’s amazing to see tactics Hannibal later used done by his father
Learnt a lot of new things from this video. Carthage must’ve not been the most popular with its subjects considering the amount of support the rebels managed to stir up.
It's in stark contrast to how the Italian cities remained largely faithful in the Second Punic War. Despite Hannibal stomping Legions left and right, he was confounded the other cities never rose up and joined him. Of course, Rome ruined this eventually and they'd have the Social War to pay for it.
En apenas 50 años, Roma sufrió 5 guerras civiles y la Guerra espartaquista (no todos eran esclavos extranjeros) además de varias guerras exteriores no siempre victoriosos. No es de extrañar la rápida pérdida de espíritu militar en Italia. Agotamiento social y muerte de los mejores elementos.
It's a sin this channel without millions of subs.
It will get there for sure, just gotta spread the word
Beautiful things dont ask for attention
Excellent video just like the rest of them; the attention to details and events happening around Rome really nourishes the understanding of politics and campaigns during the Roman era. Eager to see your next video!!!
Ooo the Mercenary War, this one will be interesting
People don't realize just how bad the first war was to both sides. Inflation was a problem for the rest of the century across the Roman and Carthaginian realms, and they both needed those silver mines in Spain. They basically fought a war that was so costly to both sides that neither was ever gonna back down, because then all that loss was for nothing. Only the Romans of the 3rd century can match the scale and volume of hardship overcome.
Just found this gem of a channel. Great work 👏
I swear yall are the best. I can only compare it to being like if Oversimplified actually uploaded frequently. Arguably one of the best history RUclips channels and the best for this time period. Keep up the work ❤!
I am so glad I found this channel.
Man, those flash game type visuals are so nice and unique
Incredible video man, this channel is so underrated
New classic channel just dropped
Glad to have caught this one close to when it was uploaded! Great stuff as always guy.
Always pay your mercenaries on time. Never try to swindle them, or else you go the way of the Fourth Crusade.
I learned that playing ck2 and watching AI get taken over by mercenaries. Always drop before you run out of money.
It is also generally not a good idea to base your entire military on foreign mercenaries. Foreign mercs do not care if your country burns or not, they only care if they get paid. They can always go home if things go bad.
very informative 👍🏻 thank you for your good work and I am looking forward for any new videos
Great video. I had always wondered why the Carthaginians would just not pay their mercenaries, as this fact was mentioned but not explored in other videos on the Punic wars I've seen. This video pretty much explains it.
Gotta say I can't blame the mercenaries for trying to extort the Carthaginians after not being paid for so long, but they really should have relented when the Carthaginians refused.
I mean he said in the end the war cost Carthage far more than they owed the mercs, so they really should have just paid up.
I will continue commenting until this channel has a milly subs
I am looking forward to the future of this channel
There is a reason Carthage was so obsessed with Sardina and why retaking it was seen as a bigger goal than humbling Rome. One reason they never sent Hannibal any backup in the second Punic war was that they didn't agree with his war goals. Sure making an alliance of anti-Roman southern Italiens and Greeks might be nice. But they just wanted Sardinia back. In their minds, Hannibal getting victories was just giving them a bargaining chip to retake Sardinia. And to be honest, that wasn't a bad idea. Trying to resupply Hannibal with no control over Sicily or Sardinia would be difficult. But if they retook Sardinia, then giving Hannibal a bigger army isn't needed, they could just use his presence in Italy to get Rome to say "OK, you can have your island back and here's some money now go away." Plus a Carthaginian presence in Sardinia could threaten Roman grain supply, even if they wouldn't actually risk their fleet in a battle against the Romans. The problem was that at the Battle of Decimomannu, Hasdrubal the Bald got his butt kicked. Now that the Carthaginians didn't have what they really wanted, they would need to take land from the Romans to trade for it, but now resupplying Hannibal was dangerous. Also the Carthaginians thought Rome cheated them out of the islands because they already signed peace after the first Punic war, but Rome basically stole them in the mercenary war.
Only playing Rome II Total war did i actually recently realize the sheer effect, at least psychologically, if not physically, that just a coiple dozen elephants can have on thousands. It is truly astonshimg that an army that is hard to truly imagine how big it is would be so terrified by massive animals that most people will probably never see.
Every time I watch your videos, I'm tempted to go play Imperator Rome. Anyway, another great video! I also like how everyone most of the time has a pretty normal look, but the horses are always angry, lol.
Horses never wanted to be here in the first place!
P.s. here at Magistra Vitae we prefer Crusader Kings 3 to Imperator
You're actually gonna surpass Oversimplified in the Punic Wars. Go man go
Good video, glad I found your channel
Would be awesome to have a series covering the diadochi and hellenistic era! obviously we will get pieces of that coming up but having a different series would be nice, love the content!
Perhaps you're in luck 😉
@MagistraVitae it's my favourite time period!
I love you adorable history. That thumbnail was cute. It was a cutesafiction
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Keep up the great work!🙂
That duolingo easter egg
The worst part about the surrender is that Hamilcar feared that 2,200 talents of silver (which were equal to 40 million US Dollars in 2022) would cripple Carthage. And once the Romans altered the terms at the last second, Carthage was infuriated. But Rome really crossed the line by taking advantage of the Mercenary War, taking Sardinia and Corsica, even making Carthage pay even more money.
Whatever Rome had hoped to achieve by doing all of this, they only succeeded in enraging Carthage!
Actually🤓, 1 silver talent is 40 million USD more or less, Rome first asked 2200 talents, then switched the terms and asked 3200 talents, after taking Corsica and Sardinia they increased it to 4400 silver talents, so in total Carthage owed Rome more or less 176 billion dollars in today’s money
Hell yeah rome vs carthage
Vitae vs oversimplified, who will get to the 2nd Punic war first?
I'm sure there is missing information or things about the situation I don't understand, but it seems incredibly reckless to bring back combat-hardened mercenary troops to your homeland AND your capital that you intended to stiff on the bill.
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What a story
Well rold, too.
LETS GO IM EARLY TO A VIDEO
Keep posting
Man, that must have destroyed the manpower Carthage had available.
Very cool content... Eagerly waiting for the next episode
Only 34 comments? I will feed the algorithm!
love this stuff, got nothin' but likes and comments to offer though
No me explico como Roma tenia tantas ganas de extorsionar a Cartago, cuando sus propias reservas humanas debian de estar al limite. Los bosques de Italia estarian talados a estas alturas para reconstruir una flota tras otra. Pienso en la Gran Flota aniquilada por una tempestad al sur de Sicilia con 300 naves y casi 100.000 hombres. Solo la destruccion de la segunda armada de Kublai Khan en Japon se puede comparar.
Does Polybius cover events like the Macedonian wars, and the wars in Illyria, or did he just write about the Punic wars?
Polybius covers all major events in the Mediterranean between the years 264 BCE and 146 BCE. He doesn't focus only on Rome, but on Greece and Carthage as well. But, considering that period coincided with a great expansion of Rome it mainly focuses on Roman wars. Sadly most of his work is lost so we have to use the works of later authors.
Thank you for answering
Thinking about the Roman Empire is swell, but I find myself thinking more about Carriage and Persia. Imagine if they had survived.
The carthaginians were too greedy and should’ve taken the deal. Gotta pay those expenses
historia civilis stands in awe without being on arms
i think u should change the background music as it is boring and monotonous u should use something that keeps the spectator more engaged like a playlist of classical music
One new subscriber two amazing job on the animations and audio three can I ask you something four I want pins of you cute little guys
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@@MagistraVitae can I do react to your amazing videos
Sorry, we generally don't condone react videos
Call me Jubal cuz I’m early
Como cartago se recupero tan rapido he inicio la segunda guerra punica?
They captured great parts of Iberia rich with silver
Cuando sale la otra parte?
Im NOT early :(
A human life passed like that of a cockroach in those times.
YES!
carthage really is cooked
Wouldn't it be cheaper and better to have a locally recruited citizen army, train them and improve them, and not use mercenary? I think the only case for mercenary is when you really have no one now and a war suddenly came up, so you have no time to train and need to use mercenary.
What a well trained citizens with years combat can harm can you nation
Look at Rome: Oh....
Another example of a time when birth control was not required.
W video 🎉
Wait Corsica wasn't also ceded at the end of this war?
Although the Romans did take Corsica during the expedition in 237, it wasn't a part of this treaty. The details on Corsica are somewhat lacking as most authors don't even mention it.
Cuando aparece el legendario hanibal barca?
26:30, not to be entierly unfaire with Hamilcar, when he showed linience the rebels answered with massacres. So he just though that if he let them go they would reorganised and kill more of his people.
I hope you lie oversimplified finish his second Punic war series before you finish your second Punic war series
Agremnet with teh Romans mean Rome does what she needs but you do what is agreed on and more.
I'm early yeah
Comment for the comment Gods
wait, so Rihanna's "B*tch better have my money" was actually about the Carthaginians all along?
Its over for trucels 😂
delenda est carthago!
The Romans should have enacted a final solution to the Carthage question before there were any sequels to the Punic Wars
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Mercenaries aren't that great...
Falo
7:05 price of corn ?
Corn as in cereal crops (like wheat, barley and others)
actually, the punic armies used the greek like common language