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Viking Longships? The old guard of Napoleon Mongol horse archers or something similar (I think smth similar might have been covered before) Maybe drummers or flutes or musicians in European armies during the era of muskets and line infantry
Next episodes candidates list Asia: 1. Han empire crossbow 2. Samurai 3. Korean navy 4. Thai elefantry Middle East: 1. Rajputas 2. Sasasnids heavy cavalry 3. Armenian archers/cavalry 4. Janisares Europe: 1. Gallowglass 2. Genoa crossbows 3. Winged hussars 4. Musketeers of the military household of the King of France Africa: 1. Mamluks 2. Dagomean Amazons 3. Ethiopians Shotelai 4. Zulu warriors America: 1. Aztecs Jaguar Warriors 2. Cherokee cavalry 3. Incas military forses 4. Mayas military forses
@@clarkstartrek Romans very much learned the hard way every time. They won a huge costs to their military and political infastructure which left the Greco Roman successors stuck with two corrupted institutions that formed the core of their society. Rome could have been so much more, and could have continued as a state to this very day instead of Italy had they tried to learn the easy way just once when it mattered.
@@geordiejones5618 that’s a big stretch. Romans prior to the empire period was extremely maleable in every facet of life: socially, militarily, politically, economically, etc. If you make an analysis based on everything we know nowadays, then the depth of said analysis turns out reductionist and shallow. Everyone is a genius in hindsight. During Romes time, no other nation adapted so well as the Romans.
@@fl3669 i mean, he probably talked about how everytime they adapted they did commit a mistake in order to correct it and learn how to face the situation
@@Tommy15670 yes, a mistake in hindsight. But Rome’s strength come from learning from those mistakes, unlike most nations during that period. The other guy said that these mistakes corrupted Rome’s institutions, but even if true (it isn’t, romes corruption comes from other causes) what was the alternative? Ending up like Carthage? Like the Gauls? Like the Etruscans?
The Carthage harbor is *mental*. Hell, the sheer number of enormous defensive measures and man-made harbors and such things people across history erected *without* motorized cranes and modern industry is amazing.
@@bjorntorlarsson That genuinely doesn't surprise me lol. "Alright. These ships have five thousand pieces, we've got five legions. Every man carries a piece!"
40:39 min? Geez guys, that is probably the longest video of this format and I love every second of it. Thanks for all the effort and the amazing quality as always 🥰
@@dtice69 yeah you're right, what I meant is that more and more channels in the community are becoming more interested in Carthage and and in this case making multiple videos about it, that wasn't the case a few years ago
@@R3LAX94 it's like saying what italy has to do with Rome, Carthage empire was in Tunisien land all it's history was there, our great grand fathers where part of it, don't understand the concep and if you check our DNA you will find Berber and Punic and Phoenician as well as of course Middle eastern .
as someone who's familiar with the subject I can imagine how much effort was put into this, outstanding video, hope this series gets the attention it deserves
18:23 It's really fantastic to be able to understand the Punic language, even barely. I speak Modern Hebrew and "Adirim" is now plural for "Adir", "Great One" or just "Great" or "Awesome" if used as a adjective. "Rab" or "Rav" in Hebrew is still used to indicate seniority, as in "Rav Aluf" - Senior General, the hightest rank in the IDF. "Mehanet" sounds alot like "Mahane", Camp or Base and Sheni means "Second", so that would probably be something like "Second Officer" translated. I am doing this without any sources, so if anyone actually knows better, do tell!
That's very interesting. Old Punic and modern Hebrew are of the same family but millenia apart. I once read how the old Indo-European word for "bear" became the modern word for bear in modern languages such as Sanskrit as well as nearly all the European languages. If I am not mistaken this and other Indo-European words also found their way into Chinese.
I'm glad that regular people are creating documentaries on the Carthage civilization. There are so FEW documentaries that cover Carthage and it's almost always about the Punic Wars.
Wow what are the odds I have been obsessed with carthage recently and not only that I’ve been trying to look for a naval video specifically in this channel and here we are lol
A superficial study of the Sicilian wars and later the first Punic war, seems to indicate that the Carthaginians didn't so much have maritime superiority because they had a good navy, but rather, because they had A navy. Something that most poorer contemporaries at the time most likely could not afford. But looking at their outcomes of the battles between Carthage and the Sicilian Greeks, and later the Romans, it looks like they lost at least as often as they won. So aside from possible historical bias, finding merit in Carthaginian prowess at sea, is not easy.
But didnt the romans copied Carthaginian's ships in order to beat them? Im not saying that what you say is wrong, but the Carthaginians did have a decent dedicated navy (at least on ship designs), i think that probably they suffered from the same problems we have today, states try to give soldiers the better equipment but they dont really give them what they need or dont command them effectively enough to avoid big loses
@@Tommy15670 Yea, they did That was also one of the strengths of Carthage. They could build good to first-class ships "quickly" and thus compensate for needs and losses.
To be fair with Carthaginians, that's not exactly what happened. It's true that they keep naval supremacy because pure force of numbers in early stages, but they were also skilled sailors. Carthaginian naval designs and maritime tradition were based on their Phoenician ancestors, and their ships and naval manoeuvres were far superior to those of most western Mediterranean peoples. Even if they became overwhelmed by heavier assault marines in boarding attacks, such as Romans and Greeks, they still had one of the most powerful navies of Antiquity up until the Second Punic War.
@@armandom.s.1844 that's indeed what we keep hearing (reading) from contemporary sources. How good they were in sailing, or how good were their ships. But even if all that was indeed so, the outcomes of their naval battles with other powers of similar might or determination seem to indicate otherwise. Either their maritime skill didn't translate well to the field-sea of battle, or it was seriously overestimated. Hence the hypothesis that perhaps their true might wasn't so much in prowess as it was in capability to maintain and project naval presence. After all, if you are the only one that can do it, you are automatically the best at it, right?
@@Tommy15670 i agree. And i'd even consider their navy more then decent. But was it really that good? Or just above average? Or were they considered the best just because they were the only ones that can do it? Indeed the sources say the Romans copied their design. And look what happened afterwards. In a decade they blasted the Carthaginians out of the water (so to speak). You don't become better then the best in such a short time. Not unless the best one isn't that good to begin with.
One of the best videos I've seen in my entire life. I LOVE Carthaginian history, and it is so interesting to think about how much different the world would be had the Punic Wars 1.) Not happened (unlikely, obviously) 2.) Turned out differently (possible) Or 3.) Culminated in the first war, forcing both empires to turn their attentions to other holdings in the long run, the Romans toward the East and North, and the Carthaginians toward the West and possibly even South. We know Carthaginian sailors sailed around West Africa, so it is possible that they would try to extend their imperial grip to West Africa!
Option #3 makes an interesting alternate history. Perhaps, Europe and the Eastern Mediterranean continue as Roman, whereas Western Africa forms an enlarged Carthaginian Empire. I could see contests for control of the British Isles, and possibly (on the side of the Carthaginians) exploration/colonization of the Western Hemisphere.
@@lausdeo4944 Absolutely. Exploring the Atlantic was extremely difficult even for Atlantic powers in our timeline until the invention of the Caravel, yet Carthage voyaged completely around West Africa hundreds of years before the death of Christ, let alone the end of the Western Roman Empire. In such a scenario, we might actually see much less of a bloodbath in the Americas (which in this timeline would likely be known as the Barcids, or something adjacent to that), as the wave of disease that weakened the Americas up for Spanish domination would have came without the capacity for intercontinental empire and, more importantly, cannons, to bombard coastal cities. The Natives would be able to repopulate, and would likely make fast friends with the Carthaginians, who were usually heavily interested in economic ties rather than war. This could butterfly out in any number of ways, but would likely lead to the development of urban centers on the coast of the Americas FAR earlier than in our timeline, and would bring about the sharing of scientific achievements between the continents, leading to a very different New World, one where it is scientifically and economically on pace with the Old World. Just imagine the art, culture and science that would come out of something like that.
It's amazing there's any records of Carthage at ALL, considering the way Rome aniahlated the civilization. Rome learned, We reap what We Sow !! GREAT video. Keep it up !!
This video impressed me. I never before saw such a deep dive into the Carthagenian navy (or dive down to, for those ships that went down). This video broadened my horizon, thanks.
Amazing video! Love the longer format, would be so cool if we got one on medieval southeast Asian navies since they are so underrepresented but so important to their history or Indian navies like the Chola.
Wonder what breakfast, lunch, & supper will consist of. Seems a co-op of Viking & Lebanon/Israel boat building would include meat, porridge w sugar, peanuts, butter, oats, and bread. Hauling a boat up those incline ? Rowing another co-opertive act to get together. Lowering of land tax near the water where these boat are practically ecologically utilized?
Last night, the crying of the children kept me awake...and I had a terrible vision. I saw the fall of our city: bleached bones under a harsh sun; Carthage, gone!
I'll be honest I never thought I'd be so interested in naval history, I've been neglecting looking into it. I'm exceptionally happy I stopped by! I'm looking forward to more naval videos
Historians never gave Carthage its now place especially those history channels make documentaries unfortunately they always had favored certain civilizations over others according to deliffernet agendas they may not even relates to History nevertheless Carthage is a prime example of that, a great civilization of its own that's only mentioned as rival to Rome and never as a protagonist of a story, once they controlled the mideteranian sea, masters of trade, expositions to Africa and had one of the best Navies, the Carthagenian ships as an example dwarfed anything the vikings has ever built yet there is 1000 years between them this video showed us some of that marvelous neglected history good video indeed
As someone writing a novel set in the ruins of Carthage after the Third Punic War, this really helped fill in gaps I hadn't even thought about. Sincere thanks for the research hours you just saved me!
Sam , how connected were Phoenician settlement, trading towns, boat maintenance area,- with good old Judaism back home in Lebanon near ISRAEL? Seems primary use of Phoenician boats was trade in the harbor outside , and Navy to defend , not conquer. Rab or Rav and Rabbi .
Oh my Tanit!!!! This is a dream you guys made this video!!!!! I will rewatch many times. Anyways my recommendations are more Carthaginian or Phoenician units. Or some Bronze age Canaanite military units. Thank you guys for covering this culture so much lately or the many other Carthaginian videos you guys have made before. Keep them coming!
Forget about Jutland, the battle of Agnomus, whether by the sheer number of ships or manpower involved, is by far the largest naval battle in all of human history. It's insane that such a concentration of men and warships was even possible in antiquity
A superb documentary! Thank you, Invicta! The rowers of these vessels must have undergone a tremendous amount of training to co-ordinate their actions so that their oars did not interfere with one another. Also, I can't help but wonder if some ancient naval engineers ever considered the possibility of hexaremes, heptaremes, etc.
They probably reached the limit of what could be powered by oar with the quinquereme. If they wanted to make bigger ships I imagine it would have been more worthwhile to rethink the design rather than try and figure out how to fit more rowers. Imagine trying to turn a ship as long as a quinquereme, now imagine trying turn a ship with hundreds of tons of displacement that's 50+ metres long.
Absolutely. On those warships, 300 men lived or died together, based on their skills to function as unit. During the Helenistic period, warships got quite large and ships with up to ten banks of rowers were common. In fact it got quite extreme, with absolute monstrosities built that were crewed by thousands. You'd probably like to read about it here :en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenistic-era_warships
I'm curious if the rowers were ever taught or incentivized to fight once two ships was grappled to increase the force from just a dozen of marines to hundreds
Well, im speaking without knowledge, but they're foreigners voluntarily working for the armies of a state rome is at war with, so they're ending as slaves or killed , so my guess is that yes, they fought.
I love the art ! But what impresses me the most is the quantity of ships and men as well as the massive organisation behind it all. It seems there was a lot of cannon fodder back then. Millions of people with short lifespan who could not live long enough to become conscious of the value of their life.
I dont recognize how 40 minutes passed. Well written and well researched video as always. Love the design of Carthagenian warships and harbour. It is sad the city and harbour didnt last to this day. I damn these Romans destroy this beautiful city. Thank you İnvicta for bringing us history.
Carthage was such great culture, they had a lot of potential and potentially they had even the chance to become an empire. But unfortunately, the house of the Barcids was extremely hostile to Rome and Rome too turned to hostile towards Carthage. In the end, there was no other chances than war. Maybe in an alternate universe civilization and peace have forged this world differently. It probably be, since there are infinite alternate universes.
The intro on Carthage was already better than much of the carthage docus Ive watched last couple of days! None mentioned Tyre by name, neither the difference in governance.
Para mi es impresionante que los romanos lograsen copiar la construcción de un barco cartaginés encallado en sus costas y eventualmente vencerlos en una batalla naval 🧐
Los romanos eran maestros en aprender de sus enemigos y adaptarse a nuevas formas de guerra. Por ejemplo, la espada de los legionarios, la Gladius, fue creada en base a la espada usada por las tribus ibéricas.
@@animicknath290 Yeah but also ironically during the days of the Byzantine Empire they also lost a naval battle against a people with no previous naval experience, the Arabs, during the Battle of the Masts
OMG, I am begging you to make a episode about the DACIANS and their feared weapon the Falx. We can see the Roman helmets being reinforced because of the Falx. This weapon sliced helmets in two and what was inside it with just one blow. I say Dacians are worth an episode.
Just finished the video of those flametrowers and now this... It's gonna be a long night. By the way did you ever get sponsored by Conqueror's blade? Would be a match made in heaven.
From a History documentary, it was discussed that a sunken Carthaginian warship had inscribed markings designating the construction of the ship. Like put part A into part B, like a factory operation. The Romans used this same construction process-in producing a tremendous number of warships in a short time, and then replacing their losses more quickly than the Carthaginians could do. Of course, the Romans had a much greater population to recruit their Armies especially from their Allies and so, the Carthaginians had to rely on unreliable Allies and mercenaries.
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Ancient Asian warships?
Spartans
Viking Longships?
The old guard of Napoleon
Mongol horse archers or something similar (I think smth similar might have been covered before)
Maybe drummers or flutes or musicians in European armies during the era of muskets and line infantry
Next episodes candidates list
Asia:
1. Han empire crossbow
2. Samurai
3. Korean navy
4. Thai elefantry
Middle East:
1. Rajputas
2. Sasasnids heavy cavalry
3. Armenian archers/cavalry
4. Janisares
Europe:
1. Gallowglass
2. Genoa crossbows
3. Winged hussars
4. Musketeers of the military household of the King of France
Africa:
1. Mamluks
2. Dagomean Amazons
3. Ethiopians Shotelai
4. Zulu warriors
America:
1. Aztecs Jaguar Warriors
2. Cherokee cavalry
3. Incas military forses
4. Mayas military forses
This video was excellent. Nice job Invicta.
Gotta love the Romans approach to naval conflict.
"Learn to sail?"
"Nah, let's turn it into a land battle"
@@clarkstartrek Romans very much learned the hard way every time. They won a huge costs to their military and political infastructure which left the Greco Roman successors stuck with two corrupted institutions that formed the core of their society. Rome could have been so much more, and could have continued as a state to this very day instead of Italy had they tried to learn the easy way just once when it mattered.
Fun fact the Japanese also took this stance and one good look at this is hideyoshis invasion of Korea
@@geordiejones5618 that’s a big stretch. Romans prior to the empire period was extremely maleable in every facet of life: socially, militarily, politically, economically, etc. If you make an analysis based on everything we know nowadays, then the depth of said analysis turns out reductionist and shallow. Everyone is a genius in hindsight. During Romes time, no other nation adapted so well as the Romans.
@@fl3669 i mean, he probably talked about how everytime they adapted they did commit a mistake in order to correct it and learn how to face the situation
@@Tommy15670 yes, a mistake in hindsight. But Rome’s strength come from learning from those mistakes, unlike most nations during that period. The other guy said that these mistakes corrupted Rome’s institutions, but even if true (it isn’t, romes corruption comes from other causes) what was the alternative? Ending up like Carthage? Like the Gauls? Like the Etruscans?
Nice to see that Carthage finally gets some love. Such an underrated civilization. Praise Tanit!
And furthermore....
"Cartago delanda est!"
Blessed from Baal
its like when you want rome but mom says we have rome at home
Not underrated at all
@@65stang98 that rome copied rome at home navies so your point is trash
The Carthage harbor is *mental*. Hell, the sheer number of enormous defensive measures and man-made harbors and such things people across history erected *without* motorized cranes and modern industry is amazing.
You can still see its layout today in google earth
@@-carthage7779 that’s awesome. I always thought that it was reconstructed later. Great to know it still stands today. Have you been there?
@@fl3669
yes i'm tunisian i have visited carthage ruins
@@bjorntorlarsson That genuinely doesn't surprise me lol. "Alright. These ships have five thousand pieces, we've got five legions. Every man carries a piece!"
@@5peciesunkn0wn Do you really think that a single ship would've been enough for an entire legion?
40 mins?? I am getting spoiled
I believe its our longest Units episode yet!
With the intro of rome one music too😊😊
Haha exactly what I thought when I saw
*We* are getting spoiled.
@@Insectoid_ the joke was funny once but you cannot keep repeating a joke and expecting a laugh.
People outside of Britain exist.
40:39 min? Geez guys, that is probably the longest video of this format and I love every second of it. Thanks for all the effort and the amazing quality as always 🥰
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Aw, geez Rick! I read your comment in Morty's voice...
You might also want to watch the siege of Jerusalem. It's even longer and equally interesting.
Finally someone making a detailed documentary on ancient navies. This is a fantastic video.
Thanks to the community for voting for this awesome topic
Kings and Generals talked about triremes too.
Finally, Carthage is getting some appreciation 🇹🇳
Finally? They've done like 20 videos on Carthage lmfao
@@dtice69 yeah you're right, what I meant is that more and more channels in the community are becoming more interested in Carthage and and in this case making multiple videos about it, that wasn't the case a few years ago
wonder what tunisia has to do with it
@@R3LAX94 it's like saying what italy has to do with Rome, Carthage empire was in Tunisien land all it's history was there, our great grand fathers where part of it, don't understand the concep and if you check our DNA you will find Berber and Punic and Phoenician as well as of course Middle eastern .
as someone who's familiar with the subject I can imagine how much effort was put into this, outstanding video, hope this series gets the attention it deserves
I just visited the Roman ruins of Carthage and we saw the round harbor (or what remains of it) still there. Fascinating...
ان كلها آثار قرطاجية بحتة
18:23 It's really fantastic to be able to understand the Punic language, even barely. I speak Modern Hebrew and "Adirim" is now plural for "Adir", "Great One" or just "Great" or "Awesome" if used as a adjective. "Rab" or "Rav" in Hebrew is still used to indicate seniority, as in "Rav Aluf" - Senior General, the hightest rank in the IDF. "Mehanet" sounds alot like "Mahane", Camp or Base and Sheni means "Second", so that would probably be something like "Second Officer" translated. I am doing this without any sources, so if anyone actually knows better, do tell!
Europe a fascinating place
That's very interesting. Old Punic and modern Hebrew are of the same family but millenia apart. I once read how the old Indo-European word for "bear" became the modern word for bear in modern languages such as Sanskrit as well as nearly all the European languages. If I am not mistaken this and other Indo-European words also found their way into Chinese.
@@ahoosifoou4211 neither the Phoenicians nor the carthiginians nor the Hebrew language come from Europe.
Came here to comment that.
That moment of "wait what?" When I could clearly see meaning in a Punic word was something else.
@@fl3669 tell them the language family of Hebrew and Punic /Phoenician my guy😂😂they need to hear this🤗🤗
I'm glad that regular people are creating documentaries on the Carthage civilization. There are so FEW documentaries that cover Carthage and it's almost always about the Punic Wars.
Wow what are the odds I have been obsessed with carthage recently and not only that I’ve been trying to look for a naval video specifically in this channel and here we are lol
Great video, amazing content
Love from TUNISIA, here's hoping we return to greatness one day 🇹🇳🇹🇳
Wouldn't hold my breath
I'll hold your breath for you
@@midoo_cherni lol good luck with that, backwater
Never😂😂😂
This topic( ancient navies) never get the attention it deserves. Thks
A follow up depicting the evolution of navies up to the battle of Actium would be fantastic!
Liking it before i watch it. Coz I love everything these guys produce.
These are always so good! I would love to see one on the Norman Knights!
Same here!
Really noteworthy topic to discuss, conquering lands from Normandy, England, Sicily and the Holy Land
I was sad when I saw the previous short was just that. Now I am pumped!
Wow! History that very few of us know about. Many thanks for all the research and labor that went into this presentation!
Goddamn Invicta, Putting most "professional" documentary makers to shame with this one
Damn this is good. Huge admiration for everyone involved in making these documentaries of yours.
The art in this video is pretty insane
A superficial study of the Sicilian wars and later the first Punic war, seems to indicate that the Carthaginians didn't so much have maritime superiority because they had a good navy, but rather, because they had A navy. Something that most poorer contemporaries at the time most likely could not afford. But looking at their outcomes of the battles between Carthage and the Sicilian Greeks, and later the Romans, it looks like they lost at least as often as they won. So aside from possible historical bias, finding merit in Carthaginian prowess at sea, is not easy.
But didnt the romans copied Carthaginian's ships in order to beat them? Im not saying that what you say is wrong, but the Carthaginians did have a decent dedicated navy (at least on ship designs), i think that probably they suffered from the same problems we have today, states try to give soldiers the better equipment but they dont really give them what they need or dont command them effectively enough to avoid big loses
@@Tommy15670 Yea, they did
That was also one of the strengths of Carthage.
They could build good to first-class ships "quickly" and thus compensate for needs and losses.
To be fair with Carthaginians, that's not exactly what happened. It's true that they keep naval supremacy because pure force of numbers in early stages, but they were also skilled sailors. Carthaginian naval designs and maritime tradition were based on their Phoenician ancestors, and their ships and naval manoeuvres were far superior to those of most western Mediterranean peoples. Even if they became overwhelmed by heavier assault marines in boarding attacks, such as Romans and Greeks, they still had one of the most powerful navies of Antiquity up until the Second Punic War.
@@armandom.s.1844 that's indeed what we keep hearing (reading) from contemporary sources. How good they were in sailing, or how good were their ships. But even if all that was indeed so, the outcomes of their naval battles with other powers of similar might or determination seem to indicate otherwise. Either their maritime skill didn't translate well to the field-sea of battle, or it was seriously overestimated. Hence the hypothesis that perhaps their true might wasn't so much in prowess as it was in capability to maintain and project naval presence. After all, if you are the only one that can do it, you are automatically the best at it, right?
@@Tommy15670 i agree. And i'd even consider their navy more then decent. But was it really that good? Or just above average? Or were they considered the best just because they were the only ones that can do it? Indeed the sources say the Romans copied their design. And look what happened afterwards. In a decade they blasted the Carthaginians out of the water (so to speak). You don't become better then the best in such a short time. Not unless the best one isn't that good to begin with.
One of the best videos I've seen in my entire life. I LOVE Carthaginian history, and it is so interesting to think about how much different the world would be had the Punic Wars
1.) Not happened (unlikely, obviously)
2.) Turned out differently (possible)
Or
3.) Culminated in the first war, forcing both empires to turn their attentions to other holdings in the long run, the Romans toward the East and North, and the Carthaginians toward the West and possibly even South. We know Carthaginian sailors sailed around West Africa, so it is possible that they would try to extend their imperial grip to West Africa!
Option #3 makes an interesting alternate history. Perhaps, Europe and the Eastern Mediterranean continue as Roman, whereas Western Africa forms an enlarged Carthaginian Empire.
I could see contests for control of the British Isles, and possibly (on the side of the Carthaginians) exploration/colonization of the Western Hemisphere.
@@lausdeo4944 Absolutely. Exploring the Atlantic was extremely difficult even for Atlantic powers in our timeline until the invention of the Caravel, yet Carthage voyaged completely around West Africa hundreds of years before the death of Christ, let alone the end of the Western Roman Empire.
In such a scenario, we might actually see much less of a bloodbath in the Americas (which in this timeline would likely be known as the Barcids, or something adjacent to that), as the wave of disease that weakened the Americas up for Spanish domination would have came without the capacity for intercontinental empire and, more importantly, cannons, to bombard coastal cities. The Natives would be able to repopulate, and would likely make fast friends with the Carthaginians, who were usually heavily interested in economic ties rather than war.
This could butterfly out in any number of ways, but would likely lead to the development of urban centers on the coast of the Americas FAR earlier than in our timeline, and would bring about the sharing of scientific achievements between the continents, leading to a very different New World, one where it is scientifically and economically on pace with the Old World. Just imagine the art, culture and science that would come out of something like that.
Awesome job! Keep covering Carthage stuff!
Surely you wouldn't have any biases regarding Carthage at all.
Absolutely phenomenal documentary on a woefully underrated topic!!
Man who ever does the art is an awesome person. I click because they look so badass.
Please make more videos about ancient sea battles detailing the tactics. Amazing video as always!
Yes pls. Could u also cover the Roman and Byzantine fleets?
It's amazing there's any records of Carthage at ALL, considering the way Rome aniahlated the civilization. Rome learned, We reap what We Sow !! GREAT video. Keep it up !!
This video impressed me. I never before saw such a deep dive into the Carthagenian navy (or dive down to, for those ships that went down). This video broadened my horizon, thanks.
Thanks very much for this lovely video
The ship illustrations are simply beautiful. Very well done and intersting Video. Its a shame, that it doesnt get more viewers !
Carthage is one of my favorite ancient civilizations, love the vids!
Love the art in this one, reminds me to the wide beautiful shots of "Banner Saga".
Amazing video! Love the longer format, would be so cool if we got one on medieval southeast Asian navies since they are so underrepresented but so important to their history or Indian navies like the Chola.
I hope we get more Carthage related videos! Thanks for the awesome work
Wonder what breakfast, lunch, & supper will consist of. Seems a co-op of Viking & Lebanon/Israel boat building would include meat, porridge w sugar, peanuts, butter, oats, and bread. Hauling a boat up those incline ? Rowing another co-opertive act to get together. Lowering of land tax near the water where these boat are practically ecologically utilized?
Agreed on the comment that ancient naval warfare is overlooked. I think you guys did it justice. :)
I've never seen the topic of ancient navies discussed in this level of detail. Very well done. Thank you so much for this.
The quality level of these documentaries is so good that it is almost wrong to watch them for free.
Last night, the crying of the children kept me awake...and I had a terrible vision. I saw the fall of our city: bleached bones under a harsh sun; Carthage, gone!
A wonderful presentation.
Not even the history channel at its peak, this is awesome.
I'll be honest I never thought I'd be so interested in naval history, I've been neglecting looking into it. I'm exceptionally happy I stopped by! I'm looking forward to more naval videos
Historians never gave Carthage its now place especially those history channels make documentaries unfortunately they always had favored certain civilizations over others according to deliffernet agendas they may not even relates to History nevertheless Carthage is a prime example of that, a great civilization of its own that's only mentioned as rival to Rome and never as a protagonist of a story, once they controlled the mideteranian sea, masters of trade, expositions to Africa and had one of the best Navies, the Carthagenian ships as an example dwarfed anything the vikings has ever built yet there is 1000 years between them this video showed us some of that marvelous neglected history good video indeed
The narrator's voice is soooooo much more soothing than narrator in other clips. Please make this the norm.
As someone writing a novel set in the ruins of Carthage after the Third Punic War, this really helped fill in gaps I hadn't even thought about. Sincere thanks for the research hours you just saved me!
Sam , how connected were Phoenician settlement, trading towns, boat maintenance area,- with good old Judaism back home in Lebanon near ISRAEL?
Seems primary use of Phoenician boats was trade in the harbor outside , and Navy to defend , not conquer. Rab or Rav and Rabbi .
@@robertknowles2699 jew
When I saw Invicta uploaded a 40 min vid about Carthago And Fhecking marine combat I knew I was gonna sleep good tonight
Oh my Tanit!!!! This is a dream you guys made this video!!!!! I will rewatch many times.
Anyways my recommendations are more Carthaginian or Phoenician units. Or some Bronze age Canaanite military units. Thank you guys for covering this culture so much lately or the many other Carthaginian videos you guys have made before. Keep them coming!
Fantastic video on historical units!
Please keep it up good sir!
I didn't know anything about this - thanks for the information
Forget about Jutland, the battle of Agnomus, whether by the sheer number of ships or manpower involved, is by far the largest naval battle in all of human history. It's insane that such a concentration of men and warships was even possible in antiquity
A superb documentary! Thank you, Invicta!
The rowers of these vessels must have undergone a tremendous amount of training to co-ordinate their actions so that their oars did not interfere with one another. Also, I can't help but wonder if some ancient naval engineers ever considered the possibility of hexaremes, heptaremes, etc.
They probably reached the limit of what could be powered by oar with the quinquereme. If they wanted to make bigger ships I imagine it would have been more worthwhile to rethink the design rather than try and figure out how to fit more rowers. Imagine trying to turn a ship as long as a quinquereme, now imagine trying turn a ship with hundreds of tons of displacement that's 50+ metres long.
The rowers of those vessels were slaves. Nothing like regular whipping to encourage coordination.
Larger ships were possible and made but were impractical for warfare, mostly held a ceremonial role. Check out the crazy ships made in Greek Egypt.
Absolutely. On those warships, 300 men lived or died together, based on their skills to function as unit.
During the Helenistic period, warships got quite large and ships with up to ten banks of rowers were common.
In fact it got quite extreme, with absolute monstrosities built that were crewed by thousands.
You'd probably like to read about it here :en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenistic-era_warships
@@darrenjpeters video says they were free men
I'm curious if the rowers were ever taught or incentivized to fight once two ships was grappled to increase the force from just a dozen of marines to hundreds
Well, im speaking without knowledge, but they're foreigners voluntarily working for the armies of a state rome is at war with, so they're ending as slaves or killed , so my guess is that yes, they fought.
HELL YEAH! Please do more Carthage guys !
When did Hanibal campaign fit in this timeline?
I love the art !
But what impresses me the most is the quantity of ships and men as well as the massive organisation behind it all. It seems there was a lot of cannon fodder back then. Millions of people with short lifespan who could not live long enough to become conscious of the value of their life.
As a Navy nut, and someone who loves Carthage and Ancient history, This video just feels like it was made for me.
Thank you from TUNISIA CARTHAGE 🇹🇳
Loved this! Great job guys on the video.
The Carthaginian dock looks a lot like separatist lucrehulk ships from episode 1.
🤣 true
A great video again ! Thank you a lot for all those videos of quality !
Greetings from France !
I dont recognize how 40 minutes passed. Well written and well researched video as always. Love the design of Carthagenian warships and harbour. It is sad the city and harbour didnt last to this day. I damn these Romans destroy this beautiful city.
Thank you İnvicta for bringing us history.
Great job . I thoroughly enjoyed this video keep up the good work.
gonna watch this when I get home from work today
Amazing and fantastic video.
I am sorry if I missed it, where did they get all the wood needed to built all of the warships?
Forests? (Getting wood by themselves) But mostly trading i guess.
@@something4179 In the Sahara? Probably Lebanon.
Awesome, awesome, awesome. Nice graphics too, guys.
I love learning about these lesser known times in history, thank you for this
you had me at the rome tw music
Carthage was such great culture, they had a lot of potential and potentially they had even the chance to become an empire. But unfortunately, the house of the Barcids was extremely hostile to Rome and Rome too turned to hostile towards Carthage.
In the end, there was no other chances than war.
Maybe in an alternate universe civilization and peace have forged this world differently. It probably be, since there are infinite alternate universes.
@Genius Art no, there are more.
Great video, awesome graphics as always 👍
The intro on Carthage was already better than much of the carthage docus Ive watched last couple of days! None mentioned Tyre by name, neither the difference in governance.
Fantastic video!
What a Saga! One of the best topics covered in recent memory. And 40 minutes? Say less...
Para mi es impresionante que los romanos lograsen copiar la construcción de un barco cartaginés encallado en sus costas y eventualmente vencerlos en una batalla naval 🧐
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They adopted unique strategy of boarding ship.otherwise carthaginian s would destroy 1000 roman navies in traditional methods
@@animicknath290 not that many.
But without the Corvus it would have been way harder for them.
Los romanos eran maestros en aprender de sus enemigos y adaptarse a nuevas formas de guerra. Por ejemplo, la espada de los legionarios, la Gladius, fue creada en base a la espada usada por las tribus ibéricas.
@@animicknath290 Yeah but also ironically during the days of the Byzantine Empire they also lost a naval battle against a people with no previous naval experience, the Arabs, during the Battle of the Masts
Excellent video and topic!
This is an amazing video, thanks!
Fantastic , well done .
Carthaginian ships come with IKEA instructions on how to assemble them
The Romans were lucky to find the instructions. Lucius Ikeaus saved Rome
32:25 who did those tiny corners of Sicily belong to? Thanks
They were independent Greek states afaik
As usual amazing work brother keep up the great work!
I love your videos Invicta !
Thoroughly enjoyed this!
An incredible video. Thank you much for all the research and animation!
OMG, I am begging you to make a episode about the DACIANS and their feared weapon the Falx. We can see the Roman helmets being reinforced because of the Falx. This weapon sliced helmets in two and what was inside it with just one blow. I say Dacians are worth an episode.
May I suggest one on Viking ships, tactics and battles...?
Don’t care what unit what age 40 minutes of INVICTA!!!!
Carthage doesn't get the appreciation it should unfortunaley.
Amazing video & content!
This was a great companion to the book I'm reading 'The Fall of Carthage'!
Very good video with a lot of wonderful information. I highly enjoyed it. Kudos.
Was good. Felt like 40 minutes was 5. Great work man.
Just finished the video of those flametrowers and now this... It's gonna be a long night. By the way did you ever get sponsored by Conqueror's blade? Would be a match made in heaven.
Lately i’ve an increasing appreciation for ancient navies
Awesome video! Loved watching this informative look into the past!
What a treat, thank you
I've always found Carthage really interesting. Great video.
Just What I needed
From a History documentary, it was discussed that a sunken Carthaginian warship had inscribed markings designating the construction of the ship. Like put part A into part B, like a factory operation. The Romans used this same construction process-in producing a tremendous number of warships in a short time, and then replacing their losses more quickly than the Carthaginians could do. Of course, the Romans had a much greater population to recruit their Armies especially from their Allies and so, the Carthaginians had to rely on unreliable Allies and mercenaries.