Porsche 718 Cayman GTS (2.5 Turbo) - Review
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- On this episode of Cars with Jay I take a look at the 2017 Porsche Cayman GTS.
Did the turbo ruin the car? Well its time to find out!
Many thanks to @Raz95._ for letting me review his car!
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Good 2c ur appreciating this g8 car. My 17CGTS is running over 500 RWH at stage 3 / 0-60 in 3.2 secs, these cars are easily the best bang for bucks Porsche have ever built!!! Period. 👉🚙💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨👍👍👍👍
I personally think the opposite in terms of gearbox!
Na - pdk, due to the lack of low end torque you need those shorter gears to keep you on the boil.
Turbo - manual, so you can enjoy the manual box more with that slug of mid range torque!
Was thinking that same thing and then saw your comment. Great point.
My gts 718 is fantastic
Sapphire blue is a very nice colour, though I prefer crayon
The 2.5L 718 is simply awesome to drive and packs a performance punch to be celebrated. Funny how hung up people are over little downgrade from the growler. I own both the NA 987.1 flat six and 718 gts turbo and completely satisfied with the driving experience and sound differences of both engine types. Mid engine heroes all of them can’t go wrong
The best thing about it is Porsche never make a dull sports car. So the car is already great from the get go. Its a wonderful platform and makes a great daily driver. PDK is fun and easy to use, plus the tuning capabilities of the turbo flat 4 can give you a real hike in power over the N/A. Thanks for watching :)
I agree if NA then manual. If turbo then PDK and that’s what I’ve done. I appreciate the turbo is quiet, and the NA is loud. Best of both worlds. You said it best Jay think of the turbo as a new car. It certainly is and quite under rated it seems. It certainly isn’t lacking anywhere in performance and stock it outperforms the new GT4. I hadn’t really thought about tuning it. Well not until now at least :) thanks for making this great video
@@1ROCKY89 I would recommend Litchfield as they have experience with these engines already under their belt.
2.5 gts is an awesome motor lightning quick
spot on, i think that advising against the 718T is mis informed. The experience of the growler boxer 4 is brilliant plus the torque low down will embarrass the NA version. Buy it with confidence and enjoy. The nonsense about resales has also proved to be wrong so get going!
I am also very aware of the direct appeal of the flat 6, i have my order in so hopefully will get my hands on one BUT in the meantime the my S is a cracking car, more smiles and enjoyment than 3 991’s
Wish I could afford a car like this
Great review and love this spec, the owner Raz is a very lucky chap!
I’m considering buying one of these…911 far too expensive and I prefer the lines of the Cayman personally. GTS spec with the 2.5L turbo PDK is a lovely combination in my opinion. Great review with logical conclusions. Subbed. Thanks Jay 👍
Thankyou very much for watching and for the positive feedback! Its a fun car and honestly at a great price point into the brand. Myself personally would stretch to a GT4, however as a daily proposition it is not realistic for most people.
Also, big shout out to Raz & Jay from Hertfordshire Porkers 👌🏽
I have a GTS 2.5T with two simple tunes. APR tune and bolt on Soul Catted down pipe. Will race any GT4 and you need to hear what comes out of this exhaust to believe me! No heavy modding needed. Truly amazing to drive !
Doesn't it make more power than the gt4 after the tune?
@@prasiddha1986 yes more power and more torque!
@@John_watches-cars Thanks for sharing your experience. How many miles have you put on since the APR tune? How do you feel about the long-term reliabilty of this setup? If you need to take it in for warranty work, can the tune simply be removed so as not to invalidate the warranty? Or, is the prior presence of the tune easily identified such that any warranty would be invalidated?
@@AEMBowers hey, I have been driving thus far about 5k miles and no issues. I have dealt with APR on numerous cars and never had any repair issues needed due to the tune. I’m even getting it soon for my new Golf R! I just want to put some break in miles before I do that. With warranty you can turn the tune off. I can’t say 100% for sure that the dealer wont be able to show evidence of a prior tune however. I don’t believe so
2:16 "Turbo charged Porsches, personally I'm not a fan" . Well here comes an unbias review.
I own N/A Porsches for a reason. But this review is not based on bia's as addressed towards the end on where I think turbo charged Porsches fit in the line up.
Raz95 strikes me as the kind of bloke who has a very small package
Big shout out from the Kent porkers!
Again you are wrong to compare 718 with 911. Those are separate line ups. 718 like 918 are two seaters with the engine in the middle. 911 4 seater with engine in the back. The price is not important but the purpose of the car is.
Awesome review!l, love the car and the scenery was exquisite!
Is that Thiago Alcantara?
Ahahaahaha
Purchased a Cayman GTS PDK 2018 last week with under 6,000 miles on the clock! The original owner had it fully loaded but for some reason he forgot or didn't want folding wing mirrors!! This is my first ever Porsche. Many Thanks, Peace From London. 🙏🙏
Thank you for watching and I am glad to hear you pulled the trigger! If you don't mind me asking. What GFV did they give you on the 718 GTS? I know there value is between a rock and a hard place currently.
@@CarswithJay I purchased the car from a private owner!! 👍👍
Nice review of a lovely car.
Great review!
I don’t know if it’s because of the RUclips compression or EU regulations, but my GTS sounds absolutely beautiful as it goes up to 5000 RPM, and afterwards just screams.
The woman (70+) who sold me her GTS 2.5t already received her new 4.0. She told me she was a bit sad to let go the 2.5 as she found out it was much more powerful (I guess she appreciated the low end torque for daily driving)… I didn’t want to ask more questions but was quite happy with her genuine feed-back. Anyway, I couldn’t afford the 4.0 as a 60k€ CO2 tax applies in France.
I know this video is old now, and his general review is good, however, living with the 2.5t is WAY better than the NA engine.
It’s more tractable and efficient. It’s a bloody amazing car and I have driven a LOT of cars.
The GTS Turbo is about as perfect as a sports cars as you can get….
I hear the same all over RUclips about the sound. Once you change the exhaust to something aftermarket it opens up and sounds pretty dog gone good. May not scream like a flat 6 but every event I go to the Porsche folks say the same thing. "I did not expect that". I'm running the "Soul Street Package". People always review with the stock exhaust and say that the sound is the only reason not to buy this car. It creates a culture of hate on the 2.5L. People hated my car and never even heard on in person. i have change so many Porsche folks opinions.
Manual is great with the 2.5t the torque band is broad and tolerant of being in a less than ideal gear. The peakier 4.0 bennifits more from pdk and staying on boil, thoough id still get 3rd pedal. Because reasons
You are wrong not everybody is upset about the sound of turbo 4 cylinder engine. I like it more than 6 cylinder
Great review!! And, 100% agree with your comments about manual for NA and PDK for turbo; I've driven the NA and turbo in both transmission. I think you're spot on that it's a buy if want the 718 as a platform to tune.
this car should have had the 3.0 flat 6 turbo... detuned.
Great review and video!
Interesting, I am two or three months away from buying my first Porsche and I'm really stuck between two choices. Do I dig deep and find £70k- £75k for a Carrera 2S 991.2 or suck up the loss of the glorious flat 6 sound, get all the GTS trimmings, arguably better handling etc and save £15k? I'm currently edging toward 718 but I flip/flop. This video definitely helps!
What did you do? I am in a similar situation
@@marcelm.4231 annoyingly, the house sale that was funding it, fell through. But we’ve finally hopefully sold it and now looking to buy at the end of the year, maybe November.
I’m still having the same argument. But I’m leaning toward saving the extra money and going for the 718.
Everything is a compromise, right? But on balance, I don’t need rear seats and much as the sound is a big factor, the 718 will give me a very modern Porsche, later tech (even CarPlay is a consideration!) and is probably objectively a better sports car.
But then….the 911 is an icon! 🤦♂️
I’m probably 60/40 in favour of the 718.
I have the same spec but with full leather
Give me a new GTS with the 4.0 engine, manual gearbox with PDK ratios, limited slip diff, an aftermarket exhaust and I´ll be a very happy fellow
Stick to the 981, its a better car in many ways but mostly the sound is vastly superior over the 4.0
Loved the videography and shots, excellent work (Y) also the review itself was spot on, really well said about everything, and everything was very well justified.
You were bang on when you said you need to think of it as a brand new car, instead of an updated cayman etc. unfortunately this is the future and the next ones are going to be hybrid/ electric
the new GTS 4.0 will also sound bad, due to the filters etc.
unfortunately it will always be overshadowed by the negative reviews of the turbo, but ignoring that Its a perfect car; setup, chassis, steering, luggage, Daily use, pace etc, really an amazing car
I agree. That is why Porsche called it the 718.
The regulations that force the 718cayman to have the flat 6 back in
Shows that the 2.5 vgt can probably handle 400+bhp comfortably
I've got a 993 c4 and the 2.5 718 GTS.
It's such a strange situation I'm in , the performance of the 718gts is absolutely mind blowing , it's so well balanced. When I bought it I was disappointed with how it sounded , but I was comparing it to the 993 and a 360 spider , so I guess that's expected.
After 18 months of ownership I love it, but there is just more drama when you sit into a 993 at lower speeds ( it's quite special , even the door handles have character )
To truly enjoy the 718 you need to drive it fast , and unfortunately on the country roads that means you are kind of playing with fire, it's such a capable car, personally I love how it sounds , I've grown to love it, the pops and bangs as you down shift etc.
The other day my brother took the 993 out for a spin, and when he came back it sounded like there was a pissed off lion or tiger outside 😂
If I had my time back or have gotten the 997 for similar pricing.
Problem with most modern cars is that they are too fast! I have a 993 c2 and I love the noise, that and my 996 4S are so audible its great! But the 718 makes a great mile muncher when you just want to get somewhere quick
It’ll beat most 911s maybe that’s why they are hating - an epic car
Nice work Jay!
The perfect best of both worlds 718 for me would have been a 6 cylinder turbo 3.0. All the grunt, all the revs, all the noise. Shame the 718 has to avoid stepping on the 911s toes unless it’s a GT model. It’s a brilliant but intentionally compromised car.
Even with the 2.5 its probably too fast for most
great broll mate, nice work
Great review, thank you!
Thanks for the nice words and thanks for watching!!
Nice review Jay. Porsche quickly realised their mistake and released the 4.0 GTS with a N/A engine. Porsche are good in that way, they listen to their customers.
What are the names of the audio tracks used?
Turbo wheels. Nice review and agree the NA GTS is more special and my only regret was the engine but hey 1sr world problems right. Upgrade will not be the GT4 as I live the PDK so will go for a ore owned Turbo S in a 2017 or 2018 plate
I think as a weekend driver, the one you would be so eager to drive after a long week, the 718 n/a would be a better choice. But day to day the turbo with PDK is great! Thanks for watching :)
Very good review
Oh forgot to ask, how is your Clio 182 doing? Have you fixed all those issues you mentioned in your video?
Thanks for asking about the Clio! I was able to address a number of issues but it has now developed further problems. I think an update video is in order.
CarswithJay - yes an update would be great! I have a 182 so am interested in your experiences, good and not so! cheers
Great video!