Porsche 718 GTS 2.5L vs GT4 - Why It's The Better Car...

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  • @John_watches-cars
    @John_watches-cars Год назад +45

    A simple APR tune on that 2.5 and it’s a beast!

    • @michaeldebusk6718
      @michaeldebusk6718 Год назад +3

      Walks away from a 718 GT4 lol

    • @sufficetosay
      @sufficetosay Год назад +14

      I have an APR tune as an only mod on my 2018 Boxster GTS and you are right it is a BEAST! I owned a 2021 Spyder and it felt slow in comparison. I sold it and searched for the 18 GTS and immediately APR'd it. I had an 18 Cayman GTS I APR'd and regretted selling it.

    • @RomanticPopPunk
      @RomanticPopPunk Год назад +1

      @@sufficetosay any engine with an APR tune will blow up sooner or later

    • @sufficetosay
      @sufficetosay Год назад +2

      @@RomanticPopPunk Really? What makes you so sure?

    • @verde629
      @verde629 Год назад +1

      And a soul performance or fab speed exhaust definitely helps.

  • @razorworks111
    @razorworks111 Год назад +9

    The smile on the GTS owner when in his car says it all. Drive what you enjoy

  • @charlieh1394
    @charlieh1394 Год назад +12

    Amazing review. Having owned both as you know mate, you've nailed every point. on road, the GTS platform is superior, the extra compliance gives you a better experience on road. However, the 2.5 engine just isn't as special as a flat six is and that's the only downside. while PDK is better overall, those manual shifts do make me envy you ha!

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  Год назад

      Haha glad I did the video justice mate 👊🏼

    • @amac8487
      @amac8487 Год назад +5

      I own a 2.5 and love love love it. Surely doesn’t sound as good as the flat 6, that’s a fact. But, it really isn’t as bad as most people make it out to be. It’s a pleasure to drive and sounds great inside the cabin.

    • @charlieh1394
      @charlieh1394 Год назад +1

      @@amac8487 I’m with you here. Amazing car. For me though, the 4.0 just completes the package of an otherwise exceptional car

    • @turnerables
      @turnerables 6 месяцев назад

      @@charlieh1394I just wonder which can put down faster track times. Honestly the sound is just a nice to have not a need to have

  • @CJR_989
    @CJR_989 Год назад +3

    Some really good points in that vid mate. As a super useable, but great fun daily sports car the GTS is wicked. Shout out to Adam as well, his car was looking super clean and detailed for that vid. Carmine red is stunning to!

  • @anthonywong5329
    @anthonywong5329 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great vid, picking up my 2.5 GTS in a couple days, this vid definitely helped when I was making up my decision. Thanks to Adam also

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks! And congrats on the new whip! Enjoy 👊🏼

  • @keithyuen2005
    @keithyuen2005 Год назад +3

    Amazing comparison video! Can you do a 2.5T vs 4.0 video?

  • @MrRoyck10
    @MrRoyck10 Год назад +8

    Sound in a sports car is far better than speed and that is where the GTS is let down like most turbo engines, even my 2.9 Cayman sounds like a true flat six legend. However the GTS represents excellent value for money for those who prioritise speed over sound albeit with 20 mph London roads, all cars are equal so the sound tells a better story. The flat four engine is an integral part of Porsche history and the GTS carries that legacy giving enthusiast a broad range of cayman to pick.

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  Год назад

      You’re making Adam consider buying a W204 again… 😂

    • @sufficetosay
      @sufficetosay Год назад

      An APR stage 1 tune actually improves the exhaust tone enough that I really like it now on the 2.5 GTS. It also gets more than 400hp to the wheels with zero other mods. I have done this with 2 718 GTS's.

  • @simonbussey7530
    @simonbussey7530 Год назад +5

    I'm not sure mixing track tyres and road tyres of a completely different types and brand is a clever idea.

    • @OVERATV
      @OVERATV Год назад +1

      You're right, it's not a great idea. I didn't really get on well with the Cup 2s - currently on 4 Michelin PS4s which are elite on this car.

  • @s77ans
    @s77ans Год назад +5

    2.5L sounds small compared to 4.0L, but big compared to my 1.6L :D

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  Год назад +1

      😂 perspective

    • @johnnyng8527
      @johnnyng8527 Год назад +1

      Yea u dude has a M2C track prep and gr yaris 😼

  • @darrylgarcia9147
    @darrylgarcia9147 Год назад +12

    Can’t compare pdk vs manual imo. I’ve driven the GTS 4.0 PDK and 2.5 GTS manual back to back and I honestly felt the 2.5 was quicker especially with the low end torque being way more noticeable on the 2.5.

    • @boywonderrr71
      @boywonderrr71 7 месяцев назад +3

      Im thinking about the 2.5L GTS with APR tune to 395hp 400tq

    • @darrylgarcia9147
      @darrylgarcia9147 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@boywonderrr71 do it brother. It’s the best Porsche car for the money. Period.

  • @DrSaahb
    @DrSaahb Год назад

    Great video. Both cars are definitely special in their own way!

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  Год назад

      Thanks mate. Totally agree too!

  • @1laimmiss
    @1laimmiss Год назад +3

    I wish you can drag race a 718 cayman GTS 2.5L with 718 cayman GTS 4.0L from dic and roll race and see who quicker. Both stock... I can't find nowhere on the web 2.5 vs 4.0

  • @scottlister6151
    @scottlister6151 7 месяцев назад

    That GT4 sounds epic

  • @Auto_Blip
    @Auto_Blip Год назад +2

    Great video just an observation though, the GT4 isn’t a straight 6 by the way, it’s a flat 6 😉

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  Год назад +1

      Haha yeah you’re correct. Silly naming convention 😅

    • @davidfacini3930
      @davidfacini3930 Год назад

      Have a brand new 718S on its way from Germany. Will be one of the last ice caymans in the world. I am excited. Almost purchased a used GT4. But it was crazy money 😢!

  • @mp8834
    @mp8834 Год назад

    Nice content mate, good to be back! ❤

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  Год назад

      Thank you brother ❤️

  • @MatthewKidd
    @MatthewKidd Год назад +10

    As a previous owner of both. The 2.5 is actually the faster car, GT4 cannot keep up in a straight line.
    The steering should feel heavier in the GT4, get the geometry checked.

    • @sufficetosay
      @sufficetosay Год назад +1

      I had a 2021 Spyder and have an 18 Boxster GTS with a stage 1 APR tune and there is absolutely no comparison in performance imo.

    • @Xspeedspec
      @Xspeedspec 10 месяцев назад

      @@sufficetosaywhat’s the power on the boxster gts ?

    • @sufficetosay
      @sufficetosay 10 месяцев назад

      Over 400 to the wheels.@@Xspeedspec

  • @damianmkv
    @damianmkv Год назад +3

    Stage 1 and the GTS will be bonkers. Like you say, missing some noise but still a great car

    • @sufficetosay
      @sufficetosay Год назад

      An APR stage 1 tune actually improves the exhaust tone enough that I really like it now on the 2.5 GTS. It also gets more than 400hp to the wheels with zero other mods. I have done this with 2 cars and the mpg is even improved by 2mpg in the city!

  • @chongtang9436
    @chongtang9436 Год назад +4

    I had both cars. Still own the 2022 718 gt4. 718 cayman Gts sounded like a popcorn machine even with after market exhaust.

    • @sufficetosay
      @sufficetosay Год назад +4

      Did you have an APR tune? I have owned 2 GTS 2.5's and a 2021 Spyder. The APR tune improved the throatiness of the sound in my Boxster to where I no longer have plans to make it louder. It doesn't sound anything like popcorn imo and I have had some great sounding cars. The GT4 exhaust is pretty lame imo. I was hoping it would sound more like my 991 GT3 RS which sounds AMAZING.

    • @zackvandenhouten6067
      @zackvandenhouten6067 4 месяца назад +1

      @@sufficetosay Do you still feel this way? Really close to getting a GTS 2.5L

    • @sufficetosay
      @sufficetosay 4 месяца назад

      @@zackvandenhouten6067 You wont regret it.

    • @georgepotcovaru2595
      @georgepotcovaru2595 Месяц назад

      ​@@sufficetosayHi ! Do you still own any of these cars & if not what is it that you replaced them with 🤔😅 ? Am looking for a used Cayman Gts , but because of the super-high car taxes on the 4.0 Gts , is the 2.5 Gts a great option such as described by many ? Thanks !

  • @esvignettes7592
    @esvignettes7592 3 дня назад

    I’ll take my 2.7 flat six over either one of these. I’m slower, sound better, and would rather it be that way than have more power than I’d ever use on the street.
    If I was on a track, I’d keep it that way as well due to the gearing of these cars being way too long.

  • @JimFox-e3g
    @JimFox-e3g 7 месяцев назад +1

    I did a tune on mine. 410hp

  • @angrydwarf6563
    @angrydwarf6563 Год назад +1

    Good vid Will. Dont disagree with any of it. Without the GT4 for comparison anyone would think that the GTS is incredible(which it is). However the GT4 the same with everything turned up to 11. What did you think of the PDK in comparison to your old M2c dual clutch?

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  Год назад +2

      Exactly!
      Good question… defo better than the DCT! Not jerky at low speeds but still lighting quick. There’s a reason it’s the best “auto” gearbox

    • @angrydwarf6563
      @angrydwarf6563 Год назад

      @@MrHCars I had a PDK in a Boxster GTS before the M2c. Didn’t rate the M2 box from standstill but loved the car otherwise and the box was absolutely fine on the move . PDK rules. Manual is best for interaction. You pays Yer money and takes yer choice I guess. Still enjoying the milltek?

  • @richarddawson8040
    @richarddawson8040 Год назад +2

    Nice one mate, just bought a GTS and love it as a daily

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  Год назад

      Ah congrats mate!! Enjoy 🥳

    • @Xspeedspec
      @Xspeedspec 10 месяцев назад +1

      How many miles and what’s the specs?

  • @Malcom2345
    @Malcom2345 Год назад +3

    4.0L is fast and sounds great. 2.5 still sounds good and with a stage 2gts mod they out perform a gt3 over the quarter! Sales are going up on these but declining for the 4.0 due to bang 4 bucks. The next ones are going EV so enjoy these great cars 🎉

  • @nigelsmith3144
    @nigelsmith3144 Год назад

    Carmine is such a lovely colour!

  • @TheNorville2
    @TheNorville2 7 месяцев назад

    Great video you have made up my mind. The GTS it is

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  7 месяцев назад +1

      Glad I could help! Enjoy!

    • @TheNorville2
      @TheNorville2 7 месяцев назад

      Or The 991 Carrera T?

  • @vr4junkie385
    @vr4junkie385 5 месяцев назад

    45 MPG I don’t believe I love Porche but we need an official MPG test that Honda Civic territory

  • @hansbig7550
    @hansbig7550 7 месяцев назад

    Owned a GT4, now driving a tuned 718 Touring with 385 bhp. This is by far the better car in every way except for the sound. And at half the price of a GT4.

  • @brahand
    @brahand 10 месяцев назад

    At 01:59 you say that the silver car has a straight six. It has of cause a boxer six.

  • @jamescockram5934
    @jamescockram5934 8 месяцев назад

    I’m sure others have said it and I’m sure it was a slip of the tongue, but your GT4 is a flat 6, not a straight 6.

  • @OKeefeist
    @OKeefeist Год назад +1

    GTS SMOKES this with a tune

  • @user-dibribhsvj36d
    @user-dibribhsvj36d Год назад

    Lol at 2.5L GTS owner saying its better than GT4. Ask any GTS owner for straight trade to GT4. And ask GT4 owner if they are willing to trade for GTS. Also comparing with tuned car?

  • @johnnyng8527
    @johnnyng8527 Год назад +1

    GTS has a better turbo than S as well

    • @nicovink7745
      @nicovink7745 Год назад +1

      Same as the S. Both the S and GTS have the same, and that's an other one than used in the base Boxster/Cayman

    • @Sptsmn700
      @Sptsmn700 Год назад +3

      @@nicovink7745 false the s and gts share the same 2.5 motor but the gts has a bigger turbo and different intake manifold

    • @turnerables
      @turnerables 6 месяцев назад

      @@Sptsmn700do the modern s use the same turbo as the old gts since they don’t make turbo gts any more?

  • @ZayniD
    @ZayniD Год назад +1

    Yeah the 2.5 just doesn’t compare sound wise

    • @sufficetosay
      @sufficetosay Год назад

      An APR stage 1 tune actually improves the exhaust tone enough that I really like it now on the 2.5 GTS. It also gets more than 400hp to the wheels with zero other mods. I have done this with 2 cars and the mpg is even improved by 2mpg in the city!

    • @ronin120
      @ronin120 Год назад

      @@sufficetosay APR tune.

    • @sufficetosay
      @sufficetosay Год назад

      @@ronin120 ?

  • @stephenagnew670
    @stephenagnew670 8 месяцев назад

    Why do people buy a gt4 an then get it in poxy silver

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  8 месяцев назад +2

      Because it’s a nice colour and looks clean?
      Out of interest, what colour is your gt4?

  • @kaivaksdal
    @kaivaksdal Год назад

    You should consider my 450bhp hybrid turbo Cayman 718 2.0 litre. Faster than both and much less money.

    • @turnerables
      @turnerables 6 месяцев назад

      How did you make it a hybrid without compromising drivability

  • @dreamndrive
    @dreamndrive 3 месяца назад

    20 seconds of video and my decision is taken...

  • @TCT2019
    @TCT2019 Год назад

    GT4 are about £76K

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  Год назад

      A LOT of car for that money!! 🤯

  • @iamspyvspy3077
    @iamspyvspy3077 Год назад

    I'd take the Supra 😄

  • @turnerables
    @turnerables 7 месяцев назад

    😂 there’s 0 chance that gets 45mpg. Your conversions are off buddy

    • @turnerables
      @turnerables 6 месяцев назад

      Probably means the way the UK measures it which is super weird

  • @mauricioruffatti9531
    @mauricioruffatti9531 Год назад +1

    The 2.5 is a brilliant car. However, the sound detracts sooo much from the driving/joy of ownership experience that I sold mine. Found a M2 Comp with 8000kms on the clock and I don’t regret the decision.

    • @sufficetosay
      @sufficetosay Год назад

      An APR stage 1 tune actually improves the exhaust tone enough that I really like it now on the 2.5 GTS. It also gets more than 400hp to the wheels with zero other mods. I have done this with 2 cars and the mpg is even improved by 2mpg in the city! Funny I traded a 2020 M4 Comp with 7k miles for my Boxster GTS. My M4 had traction issues and I wanted to tune and lightly mod it. I bailed when the ass end came around on me stock. The active rear diff always had me guessing when it would intervene. I have brand new High performance catted downpipes and a new high-performance intercooler for your bmw M2 sitting in my garage if you are interested lol.

    • @M2c-718GTS
      @M2c-718GTS Год назад

      Hi, I have an M2 competition (c10.000miles) as well. A friend is selling his 981 GTS Cayman (11.000miles) with the flat 6. Would it make sense to own both together ? Would you keep the M2 or trade it for the Cayman ? Thanks.

  • @MrGB1999
    @MrGB1999 Год назад

    No mass produced Porsches are bona fide tracks cars. That's just marketing working on you.

  • @frs2080
    @frs2080 Год назад +2

    You did not switch seats…. 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  Год назад +3

      I drove both cars...?

    • @ArisBalomenos
      @ArisBalomenos Год назад +1

      Look at the headrests - one has GTS and the other GT4. Also, look at the trim - the GTS has carbon fiber, and the GT4 brushed aluminum. Both cars were driven.

    • @MrHCars
      @MrHCars  Год назад +2

      @@ArisBalomenos thank you Aris👊🏼
      Also… one pdk, one manual 😅

  • @DaleSteel
    @DaleSteel Год назад +2

    GTS is total pants. I'm sorry but it just is.

    • @C22RLD
      @C22RLD Год назад

      Interesting opinion. Its not though is it?

    • @adr3510
      @adr3510 10 месяцев назад

      @@C22RLD🤣 fr. Guys a flat 6 missionary