that might be very true, I think after 2 hours of shooting the vest looks better - Maybe for someone who is very well trained its 4 hours - for me its 15 minutes :P
You need to add the flycam you van put the flycam in the vest, so you have optimal balance. So you can still make the dope gimbal shots, that is why you close to use the gimbal!
Who are those non professionals posted below…. Vast has nothing to do with smooth videos. It’s the gimbal that make the videos smooth. Vast is to take the load off your hands, arms, shoulder for long events.. carrying camera for a day long wedding event without vest is a pain.
Hey thanks for all your videos btw. Yes - I'm in the market for one of these vests. I have the black magic pocket 4k and the crane 3 - i make indy narrative features. what I need a set up like this for is doing extended takes of frontal walk and talk scenes. Do you think I will be able to do don juan shots - of walking forward with the gimbal facing backwards and me being able to walk forwards looking at a monitor? I know you know what a don juan shot is :) thanks in advance for your thoughts.
I think you make a great point about it being super handy for people who run long hours on foot at events. I could even imagine using it during a long day of filming for the back support. Cool tech.
We already have a flyer in the closet. I like the gimbal for fast setup, get in and out quick - light weight etc. Vest/arm is a time investment we usually do not want to make.
Not sure why so many people are focused on it being smoother. Nobody said it was gonna be smoother. Wouldn’t expect this rig to be. It’s one of the cheaper ones. This is meant to save you from exhaustion recording long events. Me for example, I shoot 8-10 hour music video shoots. This would help so much. If I need the fancy shots that are hard to get, just take it off. Simple.
Hey Josh! Thanks for the video I definitely needed this vest for long day filming! I ordered it and just waiting for it to be delivered. You’re the man! Always professional tutorials and reviews!!!!
@@MomentumProductions1992 Is there a link on the internet so that we can see the configuration and price...if not can you "guess" at the price? Thanks.
I'm just looking for something to carry the Weight of the gimbal all the other movement and all that instability will be done from the lens in the camera
Question from a camera newbie to a fellow hiker: I would like to record my hikes in nature but I can't figure out how to stabilize the videos. Can you suggest a camera, lens, setup and/or method to produce stabilized videos of hiking down the trail ? Thank you.
here we see gimbals trying to get rid of vertical wobble to be like steadicams. That being said, I tend to bring a small steadicam with me on family travels for long tracking shots, everything else is handheld. Sadly I don’t use gimbals as much 😭
I think is an option for this toy, but I still see the balance of your steps in your demo footages... so I think to remain an option is not necessary, maby for your comfort... Anyway, thanks for your demo! What gimbal do you use in this video?
Nice review! Somehow I found your shots definitely looked better then when didn't use the vest, and the limited movement I suppose is the deal breaker for me, I need to be a fluid and as mobile as I can be, so it's definitely not form me 😅
I don't get why there is no counter balance on the bottom of the camera mount. Typically the thing that makes the shots smooth with a vest is the dynamic balance.
I have a ZHIYUN Crane 3 lab. I wound up getting the GLide Gear DNA 6000 vest as NEITHER Tiffen STeadicam-S NOR the PRO version of this one offer a system to mount it WITH the ability to vertical tilt. I'm still looking and hoping. The Glide Gear DOES give me enough crane up/crane down height.
Also there is no way that articulating arm with the small sections mounted to what amounts to your stomach is going to give the same crane up/down distance as one mounted to your waist in two large sections like the glide gear DNA 6000 or the steadicam-S can.
Since i like Archery and Hunting, a Vest like this to Carry my Bow would be Useful, let's say i'm walking around and suddenly found my game, i Have both my arms Free while the third one (Gimbal Support arm) is carrying the Bow in front of me, Plus it could help me Aim better, i don't know lol, i'm just thinking out loud
actually looks worse with the vest, more bounce. It is a very small and simple version of what steadicam has made, but they have a gimbal on the mount arm so it can rotate and tilt while mounted to eliminate most of those limitations on movement.
Just out of interest, because I agree with other posters that it looked smoother without the vest, but were you taking more care with your steps to be smooth with the gimbal only? Im wondering if you walked nice and slow and smooth steps if the result would be different.
Appreciate the caveats - but I see one more practicality - for us Old Farts, this is just what the (back) Doctor ordered... the lighter build is HEAVEY after a shorter period of (torture) time and I could see this useful for some correlation between Gimbal time and AGE!
Why do I see it act worse with that vest? I see some bounce. Or is it just me? I think others have commented the same. The only benefit would be the weight off your arms and lower back after a long day of shoot. Does it help with stability? Not really. Probably makes it worse. But if you're shooting slow mo, it'll help.
I think the footage has been going up and down, because your dampening was to strong. You have to find the right balance. Second: When walking, don’t grab the whole thing with your entire hand. Most steady cam operators just use their fingertips to slightly correct and maneuver.
Hello, this is YELANGU brand. We really appreciated your video and we now have new product looking for cooperation. We were wondering if you are interested in further cooperation. Looking forward to your response.
YELANGU I use a yelangu stedicam with a Weebill s gimbal on a stedicam vest from a company in India. The yoke didn’t fit initially, but I contacted them, gave them the diameter of the hole in the yelangu handle. They made one with the right diameter and my rig works great. I’d really like to try a larger stedicam, as the yelangu cannot really handle the weight of my camera/lens/gimbal system.
🔥I compare this vest to a 4th axis dual handle rig🔥 Watch it here: ruclips.net/video/sv8UetYh6jE/видео.html
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I just got the crane 3s and it's really heavy. Does this vest take some of the weight so you don't get as tired. I don't have arms like you lol
IMHO looks better without the vest -
yeah, but think about a full day of filming, this thing will be worth its weight in gold!
that might be very true, I think after 2 hours of shooting the vest looks better - Maybe for someone who is very well trained its 4 hours - for me its 15 minutes :P
I agree. I can see the steps with the vest on.
oh good. i thought it was just me.
I was gonna actually say, your movement without the vest was smoother but that's testament to your skill as an operator.
I'm sorry, but I think I see more bounce with the vest than without it.
Adira Kessler I thought the same thing. But I feel like for weddings and long event work it’ll be perfect
maybe if you're running, this is a bad vest system though, looks pretty damn cheap, i've seen much higher quality products out there
Yup :) i can get much smoother shots just with the SC than these shots with the vest
You need to add the flycam you van put the flycam in the vest, so you have optimal balance. So you can still make the dope gimbal shots, that is why you close to use the gimbal!
@@epicon6 Hi, do you mean SC = Steadicam ?
w/o vest looks smoother to me, just saying.
Who are those non professionals posted below…. Vast has nothing to do with smooth videos. It’s the gimbal that make the videos smooth. Vast is to take the load off your hands, arms, shoulder for long events.. carrying camera for a day long wedding event without vest is a pain.
What do you guys think? Is there a difference? Will YOU use a vest like this???
Hey thanks for all your videos btw. Yes - I'm in the market for one of these vests. I have the black magic pocket 4k and the crane 3 - i make indy narrative features. what I need a set up like this for is doing extended takes of frontal walk and talk scenes. Do you think I will be able to do don juan shots - of walking forward with the gimbal facing backwards and me being able to walk forwards looking at a monitor? I know you know what a don juan shot is :) thanks in advance for your thoughts.
In 3 weeks I went from ignoring your videos to watching EVERYTHING you do. You are officially the Man in my book.
Tiene un cabello muy bonito, con todo respeto.
I think you make a great point about it being super handy for people who run long hours on foot at events. I could even imagine using it during a long day of filming for the back support. Cool tech.
I agree LastOfHisName. This is so ergonomic!
We already have a flyer in the closet. I like the gimbal for fast setup, get in and out quick - light weight etc. Vest/arm is a time investment we usually do not want to make.
LOL same, I have one packed away in the bottom shelf of my gear rack...to keep the rack bottom heavy....
Still has the stepping bounce.
We got another superhero
"GimbalMan" .😄
For tilting, you could use the buttons on the gimbal if they're available. $450 is a little pricey for most users, I think.
with resting your back, you can detach it and use hand held, and then attach for continue smoothness while resting arms and back! best of both worlds
What do you recommend for shooting surfers from a boat?
Not sure why so many people are focused on it being smoother. Nobody said it was gonna be smoother. Wouldn’t expect this rig to be. It’s one of the cheaper ones. This is meant to save you from exhaustion recording long events. Me for example, I shoot 8-10 hour music video shoots. This would help so much. If I need the fancy shots that are hard to get, just take it off. Simple.
Hey Josh! Thanks for the video I definitely needed this vest for long day filming! I ordered it and just waiting for it to be delivered.
You’re the man! Always professional tutorials and reviews!!!!
Thanks for the honest review...wish that the vest would negate the up-down motion completely, but now we know!
Just got a new vest in! This new one is much more complex and looks more promising! I will release a video on it soon!
@@MomentumProductions1992 Is there a link on the internet so that we can see the configuration and price...if not can you "guess" at the price? Thanks.
Crystal clear explanations. Thank you brother!
Raghul
India
Can also put a light machine gun in it. Can tell based from personal experience lol
is no one going to comment about the 70-200 on the gimbal :O
Well within the weight limitations of a Ronin-S
Does it work in operation? Or does the camera hit the gimbal?
I put my 200mm f2 on a gimbal!
I'm just looking for something to carry the Weight of the gimbal all the other movement and all that instability will be done from the lens in the camera
Question from a camera newbie to a fellow hiker: I would like to record my hikes in nature but I can't figure out how to stabilize the videos. Can you suggest a camera, lens, setup and/or method to produce stabilized videos of hiking down the trail ? Thank you.
I will practice using a gimbal in normal times and my small work but this thing will be god sent thing for me to shoot for 7-8 hrs
Does It help With walking with the gimbal to stop The Up and down movement
Did he just use a circle wipe transition in 2019 ??? 😨😨😨
Starwars still does it
damn its not available from the links you provided
Thank you very much for always keeping your reviews completely honest
Might be good for walking tour videos. thanks for the review.
No problem 👍
here we see gimbals trying to get rid of vertical wobble to be like steadicams.
That being said, I tend to bring a small steadicam with me on family travels for long tracking shots, everything else is handheld.
Sadly I don’t use gimbals as much 😭
I think is an option for this toy, but I still see the balance of your steps in your demo footages... so I think to remain an option is not necessary, maby for your comfort... Anyway, thanks for your demo! What gimbal do you use in this video?
No vest looks best.
Nice review! Somehow I found your shots definitely looked better then when didn't use the vest, and the limited movement I suppose is the deal breaker for me, I need to be a fluid and as mobile as I can be, so it's definitely not form me 😅
Can I use Weeville S product for this vest?
I have a
black magic 6K pro
RSC2 Dj
35mm samyang lense
Tilta cage
V mount battery
What is the best way to find out if it is compatible with my set up?
I don't get why there is no counter balance on the bottom of the camera mount. Typically the thing that makes the shots smooth with a vest is the dynamic balance.
You should check out Glide Gear DNA 6000 Stabilization System with Vest, Arm & Gimbal Adapter maybe review that one!
i think it will work better with a smaller gimbal
Thank you for interesting information. Nice suggestions. Stay safe.
Effetto canguro caro mio!
what a big bag, will the camera and a couple pieces of glass fit in there also?
Better withOUT the vest. I can see the steps when you wear the vest.
Gimbal is very good for camera man ...
Well said. Thumbs up.?
could you use this with your gimbal steadycam combo?
Thanks 🙏 my brother
What other steadicam vest is compatible with the crane lab 3
I have a ZHIYUN Crane 3 lab. I wound up getting the GLide Gear DNA 6000 vest as NEITHER Tiffen STeadicam-S NOR the PRO version of this one offer a system to mount it WITH the ability to vertical tilt. I'm still looking and hoping. The Glide Gear DOES give me enough crane up/crane down height.
Also there is no way that articulating arm with the small sections mounted to what amounts to your stomach is going to give the same crane up/down distance as one mounted to your waist in two large sections like the glide gear DNA 6000 or the steadicam-S can.
Since i like Archery and Hunting, a Vest like this to Carry my Bow would be Useful, let's say i'm walking around and suddenly found my game, i Have both my arms Free while the third one (Gimbal Support arm) is carrying the Bow in front of me, Plus it could help me Aim better, i don't know lol, i'm just thinking out loud
I think it's going to work better with glidecam than a gimbal.
You used to own a steadicam vest. Why did you get rid of it? Just curious, thnx.
Hi there, great video. Would this work with the Zhiyun Crane 3S?
actually looks worse with the vest, more bounce. It is a very small and simple version of what steadicam has made, but they have a gimbal on the mount arm so it can rotate and tilt while mounted to eliminate most of those limitations on movement.
That said, their adapter cost nearly as much as this whole unit and requires a vest and arm to be owned or purchased. So there is that.
This help me a lot. I think is key to understand that this put a lot of limits in the kind of moves you can do. Thanks.
Way better WITHOUT the vest!
Looked interesting. But limits the crane 3's full potential
Just out of interest, because I agree with other posters that it looked smoother without the vest, but were you taking more care with your steps to be smooth with the gimbal only? Im wondering if you walked nice and slow and smooth steps if the result would be different.
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Appreciate the caveats - but I see one more practicality - for us Old Farts, this is just what the (back) Doctor ordered... the lighter build is HEAVEY after a shorter period of (torture) time and I could see this useful for some correlation between Gimbal time and AGE!
Very cool, but I'll wait for more reviews
I love your vlog and demonstration Bro!
Thank you so much!
Does the 3lab work good with the Sony 70-200 gm?
Hi ! Is good to canon c200 and zhiyun crane 3 s ?
Why are you NOT using gimbal movements? You could make camera move by gimbal controls.
I still see bouncing, even at 16mm.
Awesome review! 👍👍👍
Why do I see it act worse with that vest? I see some bounce. Or is it just me? I think others have commented the same.
The only benefit would be the weight off your arms and lower back after a long day of shoot. Does it help with stability? Not really. Probably makes it worse. But if you're shooting slow mo, it'll help.
imho this is much more a way to shoot with less effort than a real stabilised solution
Good
Look ma, no hands.
Look ma, no teeth
Superb I luv the vedio
why you gotta hit it like that, 0:04
Keep going
Is best
I think the footage has been going up and down, because your dampening was to strong. You have to find the right balance. Second: When walking, don’t grab the whole thing with your entire hand. Most steady cam operators just use their fingertips to slightly correct and maneuver.
This vest doesn’t do shit except allow you to rest your arms. So use it as a chest rest but take it off when you actually want to use the gimbal.
Non lo vedo molto sicuro
this satup prize
The vest makes the footage worse imo.
Better without the vest
這種盔甲本身很重也很不舒服,長時間會哭出來
Hi
👍👍👍👍
How come you don’t have 70-200 on gimbal footage in the video ?
Hello, this is YELANGU brand.
We really appreciated your video and we now have new product looking for cooperation.
We were wondering if you are interested in further cooperation.
Looking forward to your response.
YELANGU I use a yelangu stedicam with a Weebill s gimbal on a stedicam vest from a company in India. The yoke didn’t fit initially, but I contacted them, gave them the diameter of the hole in the yelangu handle. They made one with the right diameter and my rig works great. I’d really like to try a larger stedicam, as the yelangu cannot really handle the weight of my camera/lens/gimbal system.
CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
too expensive...
So obtrusive. I already get ripped apart for looking like a swat police with my photographer's vest. If I wore this I'd be called RoboCop.
But that means you will get all the RoboHoes...
手工耿的作品??
I would love this and would buy it but $450 is over priced. I’d buy it for $300.00 in a heartbeat!
ok...
David Moreno Belmonte alrighty then!
Sorry but the footage was shakier with the vest than without
mdr
Please give me one gimble
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Audio bad so couldn't watch it.
Your loss
no improvment with the vest... I won't buy it....
Not so good. Disapointed
waste of money
I want the arri trinity