Was Nebula worth all the effort? Maybe not
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- One of the most beautiful PC's I've ever build was nearly canceled. Today we are going to talk about some of the most frustrating things about a build like Nebula and why I almost gave up on it.
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I hope you guys are staying safe. Sorry about the funky lighting in this video. Believe it or not I have no studio lights at my house and am only lighting these videos with the hue lights I installed in my gaming room and the natural light. Today it is raining so the natural light is not very strong. Sorry about that.
Doesn't look too bad Jay. Always great content 👍
JayzTwoCents trying to stay positive but this quarantine is driving me nuts and my external drive on my Xbox One crapped out so not so fun.
The lighting is fine dude! Way better than other channels :) Hint Hint :)
@@mrexile09 do you have a PC, Can you get a external drive for it?
I think the lighting is sharp
"i started losing interest in these giant 100lb PC's".. oh ok cool Jay, I can help you with that, want my shipping addess?
this guy gets it
Count me in
I want in too, i love these huge cases.
Jay: “Nebula has a diminishing performance for the price”
MacBook Gamers: **laughs nervously**
People who buy a 5000$ mac: I do it for the OS
Literally the OS: Can be downloaded half-legally for free on any computer running linux
@@Sahtoovi hackintosh ftw
@@Sahtoovi plus ''full free services and customer support''
MacBook Gamers with their $10.000 laptop: *laughs nervously*
me with my 2.000 PC: *bliks one eye*
MacBook Gamers? I don't believe they exist.
lighting was actually really good. Also, just coming back to your channel after a couple of years... looking great jay!!
This entire video basically sounds like, "Buyer's Remorse: the Build." XD
Still looks frikken gorgeous, though.
This is gold 😂
Yeah, poor baby, Jay has such terrible problems.
@@MotoAtheist wish i had that problem
@J M Those are yamaha hs-5 which are only $400 for the pair. They are by no means special nor expensive in the realm of reference monitors.
Seriously like this is top tier first world problems😂🤣
I'm always fascinated listening to a person talk about their craft.
@@lovesrc4296 uh... wrong thread?
He doesn’t even need 18core cpu and he’s complaining lol
which craft?
@@12isaac00 i think so..... not sure where cali and tex came out from😕
@@mtgeddie he does for editing
I have to say that I've really been enjoying these sort of casual "Talk to us type videos". Definitely wouldn't mind seeing more of these types of videos in the future.
HA here in canada we have seasonal cooling, just turn down the heat and game while you heat your igloo up
LOL,my wife complains that her bathroom is not done,and I remodel houses for a living.
Its always the case mate. Hell I use to work full time in the IT industry and my ex girlfriends system - including my own - always had to have some work done to it and I **always** put it off. It seems that we don't want to deal with the same crap that we deal with at work when we come home.
@@Spanner_Man haha know the feeling well. I work in an it service desk and the last thing I want to do is fix something on my PC or fix things for free for family members and friends
The roofer's roof is always leaking.
the cobbler's children have no shoes
Either your wife is wrong or you should find a new job.
I’m really enjoying these videos. Even though they aren’t the norm, they are still awesome. Btw the lighting looked great to me.
I also thought it was refreshing to watch this. And yea, professional lighting is too much for a lot of these videos.
"You're not doing yourself any favours slicing your o-ring." ...this is sage advice for many things in life.
So I shouldn’t circumcise my kid?
Jay: So I tuned voltages to get Nebula running at fricking ridiculous overclocks, what have you been doing?
Me: I replaced my GTX960 with a GTX1660
This is exactly the upgrade I've been looking to do. The 960 just really isn't cutting it any more...
@@0shova Yeah I wasn't playing a lot of current gen stuff so wasn't having too many issues, but with the 1660 in place (and a subsequent upgrade to a Ryzen 5 3600 too) I'm loving some proper graphics action again
I changed mine for a rx580. I think the biggest problem with 960 is how little vram it has, having 8gb with the Radeon made all the difference
@@0shova wait for 30xx
Im selling a 1660 build i no longer use
Applying lotion to my chaffed hands due to over washing them and the alcohol in hand sanitizer drying them out. . .
And drinking. and playing games.
I'm the only one who actually like these Home Office Episodes? Remindes me so much of his earlier times.
if he gets bored enough to start doing tech talk again, we're in for a good time
I like them too. It does feel like the earlier videos. It feels more personal too.
Yeah I really like the home studio videos. Reminds me a lot of back in the day when I first started watching Jay.
*whilst glowing like a damn God* "Sorry if my lights aren't great in here"
The cooling on my PC isnt good enough!
Nobody:
Really no one:
JayzTwoCents: I overclock my dual RTX 2080 Tis and my 18 Core CPU
Honestly: a single 2080Ti ftw3 under water requires a 240mm rad at least, a 9980XE requires a 480, 420 or a 360mm just to stay. So, with 2 2080Ti and a 9980XE, he would roughly need 840 to 960mm of 120mm rads. He was 840mm of 140mm rad... That's alright... for stock cooling. But then he decides to flash both cards bioses which greatly increase their maximum power draw, overclocks them, and proceeds to overclock the cpu... He almost doubled his power draw right there. No shit that the cpu and card will run hella hot, you are going way past what is considered a rule of thumb for watercooling. He easily has over 1000W of power draw from this system with the bios flash and overclock on full stress test, and he has about 1000W of heat dissipation power (would have had more if he used proper pressure-optimized fans). It was to be expected. At least, props to him for realizing it... but damn... It was a bit obvious.
@@blackzaru If I was him I would probably just add an external Mora 3 radiator with 4x200mm fans and if you don't want to see it you can just put it behind the case or under the desk.
Let's fix Nebula. I would add an external radiator as Johannes Lemberg suggested. I would go with the aqua computer airplex gigant. And connect it up on the backside with flex tubing, quick connects and a stupid amont of fans. And if I was Jayztwocents I would do an custom paintjob on it to match Nebula or make it unique and place it on the desk. Or maybe add only one fan at the top like the Corsair One...
blackzaru no body asked. he was just making a sarcastic statement
The lighting was fine, the ambient lights look better imo
Original title: I Almost Abandoned Nebula.. Here's Why
TheSeptember yeah was wondering what happened
Been watching enough of your videos so I decided to build my first custom loop, turned out great.
I love hearing the background info behind a particular build. I have enjoyed every video so far during this COVID-19 crisis.
"Ways to pass the time that involve lotion and chafing."
Running on my Nordictrack.
aw man I love *_using lotion to ease off my chaf via repetitive motion during 5 minutes if I'm not focused enough_*
@@watema3381 LMAO
Especially when you use 80 grit
Actually i really like Jays talking head videos, it literally kills time and its always fun to watch. Jay, do more builds like nebula, i like your builds the most.
After loosing my job from all of this Covid-19 stuff, i love watching pc builds and stuff as it’s my dream to build a PC of this calibre, you’re living my dream
I love this content, this content is what this channel was ever about.
I kinda wish sli was still a thing or just having a card dedicated to handling rtx
hairychesticles1 agree 100%. I’ve been a fan of SLI since the Voodoo days and it’s difficult to say goodbye. Your idea (while most likely technically impractical) for having a card to handling RTX-Ops would be fantastic and reminds me of how some people would actually buy a lower end card for dedicated PHYSX. Back in 2013ish, I built myself a system with 2x GTX 780ti’s in SLI and a GTX 750ti that was used as a dedicated PHYSX card. Sure it wasn’t practical in the least but was cool!
I still don't understand sli or nv link or crossfire. Like if i do have any one of those in my pc, wont they share the graphical load?
Mishaal Dawnak it depends on a few factors with the biggest being dependent on each title/game. Also the drivers need to support mGPU (multiple GPU). And the support for mGPU has been falling for years with less and less support over time. A good example of this is Unreal Engine 3 & 4, which are the most widely used game engines, both have native support for mGPU yet many developers using UE 3 & 4 do not bother. There are workarounds that can be hit or miss but per game support is really the best. Others can chime in on how it’s a waste and you will never see a doubling (rarely even 40%) performance gains and that timings can get really bad (I have been pro-SLI long enough to be sick of that discussion).
Same here. We have more PCIE lanes than ever before and more bandwidth but nah we are to lazy to support it Smh.
I still try to force it on most games tho.
I'd definitely buy a 2nd 5700 non xt when they dipped down to 280$ if the had xfire
Bellt/Disc Sander, works great for several things, including removing minute amounts of tubing, just use a jig to keep perpendicular.
I have been binge watching your video's. My buddy who is big into pc introduced me to your vids about 4 days ago. i have always wanted to build a pc for gaming so your videos have been a great help for ideas and things to look for when buying so that I get what I need for the best price. I currently have a budget of $900 to put into the rig itself. i know it wont be the best out there but your video's have def been a great place to learn more about where to start and what to focus on. Thank you for all the knowledge
Jay, thanks for all you do man! I'm an insurance adjuster that is now working from home full time and decided to build my first desktop pc for work and gaming, and without channels like yours, i don't know how I could stay sane during this crazy time!
"I have literally no lighting in this room"
Lamp on desk, computer with more money in RGB lighting than what my computer actually costs, an $1800 HDR monitor in the background with backlit ambient light strips, partially open window, under-desk ambient lighting, and presumably a light on the ceiling.
So yeah....no lighting.
Joking aside, love the build and the room. Very much goals.
Jay's at home vids have better lighting than his studio vids, or anyone else's studio vids.
caesar bear Nebula is gorgeous
I’ve been watching your videos and learning more about computers than ever before, during this quarantine. Thank you, Jay.
I use my time watching great videos like yours .Thank you for all you do...for us . Love your channel..Jay
Hey man, I don't care what kind of PC videos you make I watch you cause you're an insanely smart dude and enjoy everything you put out. You and Phil do amazing work as always.
You'll always have a fan here my guy.
I'm spending my time re watching all of RUclips.
I wouldn't waste your time with previously seen stuff. You don't have nearly enough time in life to watch the millions of hours available.
@@clevername8832 woosh
@@clevername8832 Clever AF.
you should become smarter, not wasting your time. that's why the world is such a pile of crap.
@@metallurgico Yup you've summed up the entirety of human issues right there. You're a fucking genius!
Unfortunately Jay, Ihave to be out and about during this pandemic. I’m a truck driver. Love your content and usually have it playing through my stereo while I’m driving.
I'm so sad to hear that SLI is dead, it's one of my favorite pieces of tech, and I wish it kept going, especially now with how little performance we gain from generation to generation.
I'm playing a lot of world of warships myself like you do Jay, just recently got back into i, and I'm a CV main, I've been enjoying the CV rework a lot. It's really well done.
This is the video I wanted to see! Thanks for making it! And yes please, follow up with the fine tuning process for something like this. Will be helpful for people who don’t have the most effective cooling solution available, yet want to have performance beyond stock
Yes - want to know how you changed voltage to keep temps low
Yeah, I would love to know that to.
I love these videos. They've been some of my favorite that you've done.
I love watching these videos in this time of need
image/ambient lighting looks sharp! Nice cold blue look
Honestly, the lighting looks great. It’s nice a soft. Damn good looking for a home shoot.
_"What have I been doing?"_ - Finally playing some of the millions of games I've bought during Steam sales over the past few years. Seriously, Fallout is one of my favorite game series and yet I have been able to play Fallout 4 yet. Life always finds a way... to be a dick and get it the way.
Stupid Lord Gaben and his stupid sales.
@@wendyjacob-rogers7966 - To be honest, Epic Games sales and giveaways have done more for me in the past year. (Yes, I know there's some possible controversy hanging over them) I have 97 titles in my Epic Games library without spending a single penny. - Subnautica, Metro Exodus, The Stanley Parable, 4 Batman games, Celeste, The Talos Principle... and the list goes on.
So little time. I can think of worse problems to have though.
[Edit] a word
Fallout 4 is cool, but in my personal opinion it does not compare to Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
@@Stop_Pre-Ordering_Video_Games "without spending a single penny. - Subnautica, Metro Exodus"..
wait what? Metro Exodus free?
@@radumirceabunica7492 -- Indeed. During the Christmas sale, the game had a large discount but on top of that, every user was given a $€£10 or 15 gift voucher that could redeem during the sale but incredibly it could be used *on top* of an already discounted game.
Both the sale and gift voucher together made the game free.
It was posted about quite a lot on some _Free/Giveaway Games_ Steam and Reddit groups.
Please do the video on how you reduced temps without lowering performance! Love learning more about the fine tuning over OCing! Keep up the solid work Jay and Phil, and more importantly stay safe in this crazy time!!
The lighting and environment in this room looks so relaxing. Also I’m spending tons of this time gaming and working on my, and my friends trucks.
Just wanted to say thank you for your content. Because of the info that you put out i was able to build a high power machine at a reasonable cost....so again Thank you and keep the videos coming.
Just turn the overklock off jay
You have enough power
Al that heat for almost nothing in power gain
Thanks to your videos after many years I finally decided to build my own PC ordered all the parts just waiting for everything to come in, as a way to stay entertained during the madness
Thank you Jay! I almost bought 2 2080s thinking of how OP my rig would be. And was considering matching your choice of chipset and motherboard. Wow I’m glad you did this follow up. Keep up the fabulous psa’s. I’d be lost without your vids!
I spend my time watching old Jayz vids..especially the old spice build. I still love that machine.
Jay says people complain about thing taking so long. Who cares, that build was kickass and seeing Terry be pranked. PRICELESS
@@nddbulldog1 Yup! it's the love and dedication to it to make it a true "custom" one of a kind, never to be replicated build. Those are treasures in and of themselves.
Practicing Social Distancing? Gaming geeks like us are pros at social distancing lol 😂
Yups. We are here in Sweden too. ;-P
@Jordan B. Peterson's Pet Communist Lobster you say cringe, we say binge. Don't act like you not part of the squad, if you weren't you wouldn't be subbed ✌️ :p
@@cmoe1309 You know you can like games, building rigs, and going outside too.
@@ItsFreakinJesus Lies and slander.
Praise be Gaben my brother!
For trimming the tubes you would want a belt- or disc-sander. Also: The image looks good to me. Either the lighting is good enough or Phil did a good job of fixing it.
he did mention that the particular camera he was using for this shoot had great low light performance. so i think a mix of both the camera choice and phil LOL
These videos are great. Really loving that you're being consitent with the content during this whole situation. Would definitely love to see what tweaking you did to bring down the temps! Would be very very interesting to see since I am an overclocking noob
That system looks so nice. Btw, the lighting is perfect imo.
Jay, Nebula is beautiful. I'm really enjoying your at-home content. You seem to be making the best of a crap situation. Hope you and Phil are safe and doing well.
Schwiing bootlicker
@@adamarmstrong5780 Troll
@@adamarmstrong5780 wow, you play COD and WoW. Aswell as owning a Prius. You've really struck all the requirements to be a virgin.
great reflection and review of your own system. I have build so many systems over the years and have always looked back and thought 'what if I had'
lighting seems ok J, can see you clearly here, just been gaming while on lockdown in the uk here, you stay safe in the states, love your vids and love Nebula
I used my indoor time to build a really kick-ass looking red-and-black home theater/couch gaming PC using older parts that I wasn't using, inside of an NZXT H200i case. It kinda fell together without any sort of premeditated plan but regardless, this may be the most beautiful PC I've ever built. What a little bit of spare time isn't good for.
Never been so fast to a JayzTwoCents video in my life! Keep it up Jay and Phil, hope all of you are well! You guys stay safe!
SpookyCitrus same
glad you kept her. love the color combo in a word, shes pritty.
to pass the time,been playing guitar, fixed bathroom sink, about to do some serious spring cleaning of this house.....im a little scared tbh.
god bless all, and happy Easter!!!
Stay Safe Jay! may health be with You, Your Family, and Your Staff!
I remember my old Cosmo S case (which I still have), the thing alone weighed like 45lbs.
After I installed all my stuff and water cooling, it weighed almost 90lbs.
yikes. mine sounds light in comparison lol.
When my friend picked up my Cosmos 2 for me, it didn't fit in his trunk. 😂
Sorry it wasn't a Cosmos S, It was a Cosmos 1000
www.newegg.ca/black-silver-cooler-master-cosmos-1000-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811119138
i'm spending my time regretting the fact that pc part prices have increased and that i can't afford to build the system i planned to this summer.
I got as far as getting the mobo and cpu lol
I headed the advice of a lot of tech youtubers and moved my summer build up to march. got everything in right before the mess. but even then, i was seeing things i put in my pcpartpicker list start going out of stock and had to change my plan a couple times.
I chose to wait for R4 bc its less than a year away anyway lol.
I built last year, right before Christmas
Almost all the techtubers saw it coming, thankfully also built mine in late feb before all the lockdowns in my country, thanking myself for heeding their advice
Passing my time watching budget build vids. Always a good time
Lighting looked good Jay, we all know you're doing the best with what you got. Also I love seeing all the extreme builds you do, it's stuff that we can only dream about and to see it actually put together and used is always fun for me to watch. And I'd like to see a video on what you did to get your temps down please.
I was looking for information on the Corsair One before purchasing and finding your videos. Your videos on the Corsair One put me at ease and made me a fan of your work. I am happy with my Corsair One and I enjoy watching your videos. Thanks for your help Jay.
No notifications popped up. Just in my recommendation that just uploaded 5 minutes ago.
The lighting is actually great! It is different and I like it. Gives a nice chill ambiance.
Wonderful build.
You are an artist Jayz.
Me: Wow.. The lighting in that room is so perfect and beautiful..
Jay: complains about the lighting in the room.
this video was filmed in low light? amazing it looks good to me.
The lighting is fine, Jay. Looks clear and easy to see you and the stuff around you.
I appreciate you being so up front with your viewers.
Only reason for the sub.
Hey Jay can you make a video of how you live stream and game from Nebula and what your opinion is on minimum requirements to do so for someone building a pc.
Jay: "F in chat for them..."
Me: "... and there were no 'F' given."
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Don't know why but as not a native English speaker I find this wording funny.
As a native English speaker, I find it funny as well!
One is the polite shortening of an English word, the other is a control scheme meme.
Yeah you definitely made a funny. I like it.
My life in quarantine has been rebuilding my devil's canyon PC with a new custom loop from EK (aluminium parts) and an old mATX case I had laying around (Zalman T5). Fact is that fitting all those parts in this tiny case involved a ton of modding/cutting/general headbanging, so I managed to spend more than a week on this.
You, Linus, Kyle, Paul, Steve and also the general PCMR community inspired me to build this machine and I want to thank you for that.
Me, watching this 3 years later for the first time :D This PC looks insane, nice that you decided to keep using it.
I'm passing most of my time with programming synthesizers (sound design) and making music :-)
The natural lighting looks good, no need to apologize.
Jay:Nebula has a diminishing return for the price
Me: yeah so does a Ferrari, I still want it😂😂
i mean the case allone is 1000$? I got my 928 for 1500€. Thing with that case is, that it looks good and is big. Problem is, that they could have done a much better job. Why the F cant you install 4 420mm rads? i mean even 2 additional 30mm thick would be great... you have a slides instead of holes in the front. Even for 120mm fans/ rads. but you cant place it there. i got a 280mm there because iam using only 4 screws in the wrong holes (the bottem 2 from the middle and the top are my tops) and 3 140mm ultra slim fan that have 120mm mounting holes. and the back is even wors. you cant have a rad there without fans or if you move the fans to the outside. and even with the normal configuration a had to buy 90° adapters for my cables because there interfering with the bottem fan...
I still love that case but man, if they had made it 5cm longer and taller to acommedate for the mounting, it would have been nearly perfect for the job. but In Win only makes the cases so you can do what they think of in it. want a little bit extra and you have a bad time.
@Eli Robles pretty useless reply but whatevvv
😂😂😂😂
@Eli Robles facts huh? 😂😂 who asked u for your opinion
Loving the videos. Helped me refine my ideas for my plans on building a pc. Going to go check out the vids on that star wars build. Thanks for the vids/content/info and entertainment.
What have I been up to... I just finished building my first PC!! After watching a lot of your videos and Gamers Nexus I learned about the different components of a computer as well as how to pick parts for a more tailored system. Once I had all the parts I put everything together and pushed the button SUCCESS no magic smoke, all the lights came on, and for the past week things have been great!! I'm not a computer guy and this was way out of my comfort zone but it was a fun experience and I can't thank you enough for your help!!
This just goes to show how creative he can be when he has naff all to talk about and nothing arriving to build
James Roggy are you saying that he is or is not creative?
TBH I think he's gotten complacent. There's been a tone change in his content in the last year or so, it's less polished, less researched, less 'deep dive' and more surface impression. I suspect it's because he's trying to be more of a father to his family, so I don't honestly fault the guy. Just something I've kind of noticed.
I'm an essential worker so I am just saving my extra cash for when the stores are all open again though some stores are still selling PC parts so I'm looking for a cheap graphics card for my Oniplex 990 to hold me off till I can afford a proper build.
jay, building pc’s and doing what you love can never be a waste of money, no matter how much you spend doing it
I've seen some of your stuff in the past, but I've been watching more and more in the last couple of days. Really impressed with your game cave remodel and thankful for the build guides you have. Also, love your 370z. I have a 350 I just got and want to get into some amateur race stuff. Keep up the good work and advice. Subbed.
Ryzen:"12 cores on your Intel cpu? Hah! That's cute.."
I would love to hear everything about your sound system
He went through them in the room tour
Great vid! I would love to know more!
Anyone else feel like he seems like he is out of it? He just sorta... isnt into youtube anymore like he was? I love your stuff jay. It is so informative and brings me so much happiness to watch. Keep up your good work. :)
3:54 I knew that dig at Linus was coming.
manukoleth you saw the build Linus did from home as well 😀 I kind of cringed when Linus said it in his video 😉
3:57 **insert meme here**
Jay I’ve been binge watching your builds and planning my next one. Been stuck on this MSI laptop for too long! I want POWER
nebula is a beautiful build i have enjoyed all the builds you do peoples taste changes over time the most important thing is your happiness with what you are running i have learned a lot from your videos and i thank you for the time you put into your videos
Size doesnt matter... we love some SFF builds! :D
Agreed, I'm personally losing interest in monster, multi-GPU, ultra power-hungry PCs. Compact, efficient, stylish and clever SFF are the future of desktop PCs, especially since the death of SLI, Crossfire and overclocking in general.
Cases like the Corsair One, the Velka 3, the NZXT H1...that's where it's at.
Personally, I think SFF PCs don’t look too great...
Still waiting for the PC-O11 Mini.
Jay: I fart a lot.
Me: Challenge accepted.
Occasional Cortex me too! I fart a lot and I mean a lot.
Well ya see farts are simply inevitable they come and go
*huffs jenkem*
i'm having nostalgia from back when i subbed like 5 years ago when you were at the 'home' studio. (Back before you had the 'traaaaaansition' transition :) )
Concerning the lighting: it's actually really good. I was going to compliment the backdrop. Even though it's not your office space, it looks really clean and professional.
6:30 Hey J, Did the math, it was a process but anyone feel free to correct me. If you were 0.05 (half a degree on the compass) off, and you traveled 1000 miles, you would be 5 miles off course. Didn't see anyone comment the answer on here so I thought I would throw that up here. Measure/Navigate twice, sail once. Playing battleship games, 5 miles can mean the difference between Docking at the Marina Del Rey, and running right into the Santa Monica Pier. Big Deal, glad Nebula's tubes turned out perfect though.
'i donnt want to hear about that"
tough
jk. i did a full motherboard swap on my Alienware 14 laptop. :D
I finally built my first PC! I was worried about my parts since it was all coming to an end when this whole thing started becoming serious. But I wanted to thank you @JayzTwoCents for all of your informative and entertaining videos. I have learned more from you than anyone else and happy to say that I did it! Thanks again for all of the awesome content, you are now a regular viewing channel in my day to day life! Be safe and thanks again!
Jay lighting actually looked pretty good. During this time of being stuck at home I finally liquid cooled my pc first time doing it and it was actually a lot of fun