Thats exactly why I keep my 5800X3D a few gens further in combo with my 4090! I play only at 4k and 115 FPS max on my LG OLED C1 120Hz! If Id ever upgrade then only on a 240Hz LG OLED TV in future! so far after 2026 maybe!!!
I still recommend people buying 5800x3d for at least one more year or maybe even more. Cause used market will give us 5800x3d for 160-180 euro în 1 year like.
for 1440p and 4K you dont upgrade to 7k Series. Max 20 FPS Difference in best Case Szenarios. Maybe different for 9K series and depends on how the Prices gonna be. But Upgrading now to AM5 if you already got the 5800x3d there is no reason at all to spend the Plattform upgrade for this Minimal of an Improvement
@@scatmanj101 Anecdotal. We've all seen the reports and test videos wherein the 7800X3D blows up (not dramatically) and socket melts. Also some people aren't tech-savvy and just start using equipment without realizing there may be a critical issue needing a BIOS update. On AM4, no one had to worry about this.
@@YourEx.. by the way, don’t go with 5950X from 5800X3D, unless you have full water cooling loop, then you can overclock the 5950X to preform same as 5800X3D - maybe slight better but with aditional cores and treads
So, assuming your 7800x3D and your Expo memory runs reliably... once you are using the 4090 at the settings it was designed for and for which someone would buy it, there isn't much difference in the two CPUs. Some, but not a lot.
some people like hardware that lasts. The relative performance matters even if it doesn't matter in an already released game. Pretty sure my 8700k was not being flexed by any game when it released but it served an extremely long lifespan due to how good it scaled up
@telquin6974 You both have a point. For competitive titles, 1080p is still the preferred setting, and with there now being 500Hz 1080p monitors, the sky's the limit for CPU-bound improvements. But for any other title... yeah, the upgrade cost going from AM4 to AM5 isn't worth it lol
@neogeomaster3027 DDR4 can overclock all the way up to 4666 MHz, but you get diminishing returns after 3800 MHz and 1900 MHz on Infinity Fabric. One of the main draws of the X3D chips is less need to access RAM, which benefits AM4 far more than AM5. Having faster 6000 MHz DDR5 is redundant. The greater IPC of the 7800X3D is where it wins out- but this greatly depends on the title and resolution. It could be a 20% difference at 1080p in less demanding titles or a 5% difference at 1440p in more demanding titles. Once you get up to 4K and you're GPU bound to e.g. a 4090 as per original post, we're talking a single digit percentage difference at most.
Some titles like Cyberpunk 2077 were tested with 1440p. Basically in the titles where it matters, its still partly GPU bound and makes a CPU upgrade nowhere near as dramatic of a performance uplift compared to 1080p.
Thats exactly why I keep my 5800X3D a few gens further in combo with my 4090! I play only at 4k and 115 FPS max on my LG OLED C1 120Hz! If Id ever upgrade then only on a 240Hz LG OLED TV in future! so far after 2026 maybe!!!
I have the same combo
@@ДаниилБахман it's just 🔝 right? 👍🏻
Ryzen 5 3600, rtx 3080 on lg c1 55inch 😊👍
@@ДаниилБахман nice
@@ivanor8621 nice!
Still can't find any reason to upgrade my 5800X3D & 4090 at 120Hz 4k gaming and 115 FPS limit! I'll wait until AM6 and DDR6👍🏻
I still recommend people buying 5800x3d for at least one more year or maybe even more. Cause used market will give us 5800x3d for 160-180 euro în 1 year like.
@@pR0ManiacS so right 👍🤪
for 1440p and 4K you dont upgrade to 7k Series. Max 20 FPS Difference in best Case Szenarios. Maybe different for 9K series and depends on how the Prices gonna be. But Upgrading now to AM5 if you already got the 5800x3d there is no reason at all to spend the Plattform upgrade for this Minimal of an Improvement
@@OrderlyChaosMirage exactly that's the case why I don't want to upgrade 👍🏻✅
Same specs, same opinion! ❤
If you're using a asus motherboard, the 7800x3d results would all be zero because your cpu would have been burnt
I've been in an asus board since launch day without any issues, you know they fixed all that stuff right
Yup. I learned that the hard way about 3 weeks ago. LoL
@@scatmanj101 Anecdotal. We've all seen the reports and test videos wherein the 7800X3D blows up (not dramatically) and socket melts. Also some people aren't tech-savvy and just start using equipment without realizing there may be a critical issue needing a BIOS update. On AM4, no one had to worry about this.
i got asus b650e-itx recently and updated the bios. no overheat issue so far
Still can't find any reason to upgrade my 5800X3D & 4090 at 120Hz 4k gaming and 115 FPS limit! I'll wait until AM6 and DDR6👍🏻
5800x3d is a dam good cpu
in MW3 Benchmark my 5800x3d does 400+ fps while my deadbeat 3060 does around 150 fps lol.. i really need a GPU upgrade now.
@@YourEx.. you can try overlocking and get additional 40 to 60 fps on your 3060, I moved to 5950X and I do have 3080
@@YourEx.. by the way, don’t go with 5950X from 5800X3D, unless you have full water cooling loop, then you can overclock the 5950X to preform same as 5800X3D - maybe slight better but with aditional cores and treads
Don't fi 5950x at all. 5800x3d îs the final boss of am4 well known fact. The others solutions are bait.
Makes sense. What kind of maniac would buy a 4090 and game in 1080p 💀
So, assuming your 7800x3D and your Expo memory runs reliably... once you are using the 4090 at the settings it was designed for and for which someone would buy it, there isn't much difference in the two CPUs. Some, but not a lot.
some people like hardware that lasts. The relative performance matters even if it doesn't matter in an already released game. Pretty sure my 8700k was not being flexed by any game when it released but it served an extremely long lifespan due to how good it scaled up
Fair point. My fx8350 got lots of negative comments, but served me well for a decade. @@abeidiot
@telquin6974 You both have a point. For competitive titles, 1080p is still the preferred setting, and with there now being 500Hz 1080p monitors, the sky's the limit for CPU-bound improvements. But for any other title... yeah, the upgrade cost going from AM4 to AM5 isn't worth it lol
Exactly bro
@neogeomaster3027 DDR4 can overclock all the way up to 4666 MHz, but you get diminishing returns after 3800 MHz and 1900 MHz on Infinity Fabric. One of the main draws of the X3D chips is less need to access RAM, which benefits AM4 far more than AM5. Having faster 6000 MHz DDR5 is redundant.
The greater IPC of the 7800X3D is where it wins out- but this greatly depends on the title and resolution. It could be a 20% difference at 1080p in less demanding titles or a 5% difference at 1440p in more demanding titles. Once you get up to 4K and you're GPU bound to e.g. a 4090 as per original post, we're talking a single digit percentage difference at most.
Thanks a lot for including the 4k res 👍👍
Id love to see some comparisons with DLSS at 4k
No 1440p?
Some titles like Cyberpunk 2077 were tested with 1440p. Basically in the titles where it matters, its still partly GPU bound and makes a CPU upgrade nowhere near as dramatic of a performance uplift compared to 1080p.
Whats ur recommended undervolt settings for 7800x3D?
Impressive cpu