SAAB 9-3 Disassemble ECM 2003-2011 PCB Repair T8 ECU ECM Codes P0201, P0202, P0203, P0204, P0245

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  • Опубликовано: 2 авг 2021
  • This info is the same for all T8 ECMs.
    Codes P0201, P0202, P0203, P0204, P0245
    with / intermittent hard starting, rough running, white smoke, or over-boosting issues.
    We are gonna replace the most common cause of SAAB 9-3 T8 ECU failure: the TPIC46L02 that drives the injectors and the wastegate. There are potentially other bad chips but always start with that one if you are getting all the codes listed above.
    If you have different codes than the ones I list above then it’s probably not the chip I am replacing here (see the comments).
    ECU heat relocate with Tawaianese Dealer kit
    www.saabplanet.com/ecu-t8-rep...
    You should backup your ECU software using this method.
    • COPYING a SAAB 93 TRIO...
    With those backups, you can reprogram (also remaps) almost any 9-3 T8 ECU to be compatible with yours.
    You can see the part number at 5:26
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Комментарии • 97

  • @cargoudel
    @cargoudel  2 года назад +5

    Please check the description for mistakes and corrections.

    • @michaeltomczyk3311
      @michaeltomczyk3311 2 года назад +1

      do u have a business i need this done

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +2

      @@michaeltomczyk3311 I don't, sorry about that. But if you can find someone who does surface-mount electronics work, they have access to the right equipment and it's a pretty easy job for them.

    • @michaeltomczyk3311
      @michaeltomczyk3311 2 года назад +1

      Hi did the rebuild work and how long is it going?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +2

      A year so far.

    • @fredyflores5799
      @fredyflores5799 2 года назад +1

      Where did you order the part ?

  • @rickbrandon1822
    @rickbrandon1822 2 года назад +8

    You are right that fixed my saab. Had to get tv repair shop to solder it in 95 dollers well worth it.thank you

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +1

      Good idea.

    • @mattpfarr5992
      @mattpfarr5992 2 года назад +3

      I’m headed to a computer repair shop tomorrow, wish me luck🤞

  • @famousamoss
    @famousamoss 2 года назад +3

    Great work! Thanks for sharing

  • @FailureElite
    @FailureElite Год назад

    Wow great information thanks dude! Links super helpful as well.

  • @TheForerunner117
    @TheForerunner117 2 года назад +7

    Thanks doe this video. I just bought a 07 9-3 and it has literally these codes. I’m glad to see someone out here who knows how to fix this instead of having to send it to Illinois for 600$. I might be coming back here asking for help soon lol…

    • @TheForerunner117
      @TheForerunner117 2 года назад

      Where were you able to source that chip from?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +1

      @@TheForerunner117 check out 5:26 in the video (mouser)

    • @TheForerunner117
      @TheForerunner117 2 года назад

      @@cargoudel I did just buy this car and don’t know much about it yet but it has all the right codes and all I see online is if you have them it’s the ecu so I’m pretty hopeful this works for me. I haven’t seen any smoke or fumes or whatever but the owner did say every once in a while you have to floor it to make it start so is sounds like it’s on the right track. Is there any other ways to confirm the fix will work or is it just worth going for it and seeing what happens? I cleared the codes on the car they imediately returned on next startup so with 260k I’m sure it’s the problem.

    • @TheForerunner117
      @TheForerunner117 2 года назад

      @@cargoudel I don’t have one of those fancy reflow deals but I do have a heat gun with adjustable temp and one of those tiny choke down attachments. You think that would work? I could use my laser thermo to keep an eye on temps

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад

      @@TheForerunner117 it’s a bit risky. It’s important to flow (add solder) the pads first with a decent iron. I have done it before with a heat gun. You might wanna protect the other parts with aluminum foil. Use the low setting. Don’t use the heat gun with the new chip.

  • @user-gx7mx9rz4v
    @user-gx7mx9rz4v 2 года назад +3

    👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @cginteractions9978
    @cginteractions9978 Год назад +1

    Hi, I had a question about the ECM relocation kit you mentioned; apart from extending the ground wire for the ECM, was there any additional wiring you had to do for the relocation kit?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  Год назад +3

      You have to extend around 4 wires and a ground. Pretty easy if you comfortable with simple electrical / electronics work.

  • @feldmannimports
    @feldmannimports Год назад +1

    Did you replace the injectors as well? Had my Ecu fixed and the repair place required I changed my injectors as well. Just curious what your thoughts are regarding this. Thanks for the video!

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  Год назад +6

      I wouldn’t assume the injectors are bad.

  • @serogapp
    @serogapp 2 года назад +1

    Hello! Thank you very much, I saved my ECU with your video. How does your ECU work now?

  • @angelsantana3969
    @angelsantana3969 2 года назад +1

    This guy must know what he's doing if he's messing with his PCM in the garden 🤣

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +4

      Hey man! That French glue doesn’t smell good inside my shop when heated up. 😂

  • @mrgreenpestcontrol1958
    @mrgreenpestcontrol1958 2 года назад

    Gray video man , can you tell me where is the ECU located in that car ? I'm looking for mine but I can not found it

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад

      It's on the engine to the left of the turbo intake.

  • @manermos1016
    @manermos1016 2 года назад +2

    Hola con este procedimiento resuelves el problema común de falla en los inyectores ? Saludos

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +2

      If you having the P0201, P0202, P0203, P0204, P0245 codes all at the same time (P0245 is important here!). Yes, this is probably the issue. Can't say 100% though. Test it before you close it up.

  • @THe9-3MAnIaC
    @THe9-3MAnIaC Год назад

    I've got a 9-3 which starts and runs good, but it sounds like it's not firing on some of the cylinders sometimes. It happens when the engine is cold. When the engine is warmed up, that problem is gone. And it drops the rpm faster than normal aa well during a gearchange. And I got a fault code P0686 which has something to do with the ECU. It's quite difficult to explain, but what du you think could be the problem?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  Год назад +1

      I would search the trionic tuner forum.

  • @jERRYKIEFER
    @jERRYKIEFER 2 года назад

    Question,
    After you replaced the chip was it plug and play with all the memory secure?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +6

      There is no memory in the chip I replace in the video, so yes. No need to program or reprogram anything after replacing the chip.

  • @zpyao5695
    @zpyao5695 2 года назад

    great video.
    my 08-93 got u2105 and p0601, you know which one is failed?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад

      Search u2105 and p0601 on this forum www.trionictuning.com/forum/
      There are many possible causes: bad Relay R11, bad ground on ring terminal on ECU, or it could need to be reflashed, or the ECU microcontroller may be bad.

    • @zpyao5695
      @zpyao5695 2 года назад

      @@cargoudel thank you

  • @juggernauts444
    @juggernauts444 2 года назад +1

    What do you mean 12:55. “Maybe if the ECU is marginal. And has to warm up before start to fail” That is happening to my ECU. I will appreciate any help

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +3

      You should still replace that TPIC if you are getting 201-204 codes and the 245 wastegate code at the same time when the problem shows itself. I just mean it’ll be harder to test without fully reinstalling, but that open startup test is useful to at least show that you replaced the chip correctly. I have had ECUs that only quit after getting hot and it was also the TPIC.

  • @ebodlli93
    @ebodlli93 2 года назад +1

    Hello, i got mine replaced cause of an intermittent P1682 code. After the replacement of ecu, the code is gone. I still have the old one and i wonder if i can fix it and use it as a backup. Can you help me out with this?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +1

      Looking at some schematics on trionic tuner site, that code is for the main relay which is on the other TPIC but that one is near the top under the cross bar near where it hinges.

  • @Farmer2492
    @Farmer2492 2 года назад +1

    Hi my T8 ECU has come up a Po606 code is there anything i can do to fix it as they want a $1000 for a refurbished one here in Australia or whats the best way to go about it

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +3

      If the car has been tuned it could be bad settings / bad map. If the car is 100% stock, it's probably the processor or may be corroded connectors. I would check out the website trionic tuners for help with ECUs, register for the site, and use the search.

  • @imanwan2861
    @imanwan2861 2 года назад +1

    Do you offer the service to replace the chip on the side. I have extra bad ECU in hand from these code.

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +2

      I don't. But if you open it for them, many electronics or tv repair shops can do this work.

    • @imanwan2861
      @imanwan2861 2 года назад +1

      @@cargoudel thanks.

  • @Aero93
    @Aero93 2 года назад +1

    Got P0691 fan speed 1 not working, sympthom limited torque and no A/C working
    Power is fluctuating when hitting a throttle when driving ... Ecu failing?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +1

      I would agree. There are some good videos on cloning your ECU to one from a junkyard.

  • @robinscottll820
    @robinscottll820 2 года назад

    i’ve got a MyMetro SmartRide that gives me the codes in this order for my 2005 9-3 2.0t
    P0204 P0202 P0201 P0300
    is it not be the chip you are fixing here? if not do you know what it could possibly be?
    Thank You

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +1

      Maybe not that chip in my video. No waste-gate, no code for cyl 3. Not sure. I would search around on www.trionictuning.com

    • @robinscottll820
      @robinscottll820 2 года назад

      @@cargoudel Thank you

  • @paultrapido859
    @paultrapido859 Год назад +1

    Will the same chip work in the ECM for a 2010 2.0 9-3x?

  • @josecuevas3440
    @josecuevas3440 2 года назад

    Hi,where do you get the chip to repair ecu.

  • @davezgy1
    @davezgy1 2 года назад

    Have you tried to open a B284 ECU?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +1

      No, but check out the trionic tuner forum.

  • @raulpiceno9498
    @raulpiceno9498 2 года назад

    Hello sir , is it p0245 p0201 po204 p0606 is this chip the problem ? thank u

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад

      Hard to say 100%. P0606 may mean a CPU issue. I would search it on the trionic tuner forum website.

  • @johnteets9652
    @johnteets9652 Год назад

    Would u do 2 ecms ,I have 2 saabs both have this issue im sure ,I can send both to u I'd really appreciate it,sent 1 away to g7 computers and they never opened it up nor fixed problem I wasted 250 bucks for nothing please mess me lmk asap thanks

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  Год назад

      Sorry. I don’t do outside work.

  • @rommelfernandez1766
    @rommelfernandez1766 Год назад

    Do I need to back up my ECU before the repair

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  Год назад

      Not required but recommended in case you destroy the unit. The chip we replace has no memory.

  • @isicks2k128
    @isicks2k128 2 года назад

    Is the ecu backup necesary?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +1

      You should back it up before you try to open it up.

  • @LegoBeto
    @LegoBeto 2 года назад

    Can you provide a link to the page where i can buy the chip?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад

      Goto mouser.com or digikey.com and search TPIC46L02DB

    • @jERRYKIEFER
      @jERRYKIEFER 2 года назад

      @@cargoudel Yep, chips are less than $3.50 a piece

  • @doctor_ecu_meccatronica
    @doctor_ecu_meccatronica Год назад

    Hello good morning sorry for my English I use translator .. I have not read all the comments maybe I have already asked this question .. kindly I would like to know if after replacing the chip you have to program the ECU or is it not necessary to start it? thank you

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  Год назад +1

      The chip has no memory. But I would make a backup of your original ECU incase you destroy it while working in it. It’s easy, there is a link in the description.

    • @doctor_ecu_meccatronica
      @doctor_ecu_meccatronica Год назад

      @@cargoudel ok Thank you !!!

  • @rickbrandon1822
    @rickbrandon1822 2 года назад

    Do you have to reprogram it after doing this.

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +2

      Not if it's the original ECU. The chip I show replacing doesn't have code or memory. It's just a MOSFET Gate driver.
      But I would make a backup in case you screw it up and want to buy a replacement and reprogram and remap. If you make a backup you can buy any almost ECU from any 9-3 from 03-11, but if you don't have the backups you have to get the exact same part number.

    • @rickbrandon1822
      @rickbrandon1822 2 года назад

      Great thank you.

  • @34sonno
    @34sonno 2 года назад +1

    My ecu is 55352688, this repair is also valid for mine ?? Thank you.

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад

      Yes. Same unit type. I’m just covering one type of chip that can go bad and correlated with certain error codes.

  • @arkadiuszwawrzyniak9445
    @arkadiuszwawrzyniak9445 Год назад

    What if I don't have P0245 but have P0201, P0202, P0203, P0204 ?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  Год назад

      Could be if the problem is very intermittent.

  • @JTuned23
    @JTuned23 Год назад

    What 5 wires did you need to extend for the ecu relocate?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  Год назад

      When I bought the relocation kit, bracket, etc., linked in the description, it came with a video I used to do the work. But when you unwrap the harnesses, it's pretty apparent which wires are too short of reaching.

  • @1redmazda11
    @1redmazda11 2 года назад

    Can I just pull my ecu and send it to you for repair? 😁

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +3

      I would open it up for them and take it to a local electronics repair shop and send them this video.

  • @extremeskierx528
    @extremeskierx528 2 года назад +1

    Be sure to use silicone that doesn't cure out citric acid

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад +1

      I agree with this.

  • @josephi_2aaa7
    @josephi_2aaa7 2 года назад

    Would you do mine?

    • @cargoudel
      @cargoudel  2 года назад

      I would open it up for them and take it to a local electronics repair shop and send them this video.