It's just amazing to me how we have Negreanu analyzing Magnus' poker, I mean these are two GOATS in two completely different fields! We're so lucky we live in a time where we have access to amazing content from them both
I wouldn't say completely different fields, they're both intellectual games and they're both table games. Kinda like physics and chemistry. But you're right, its awesome to have these two GOATS 🐐 🐐
Idk he could of easily thought he was just chilling with those aces. I don’t see any genius gameplay here lol But i like the breakdowns from the OG poker champ.
@@KOSHPARZ No, he immediately tells that it's not often you get to turn that hand into a bluff. He knew exactly what he was doing. He has also played a decent amount of online poker earlier, so it's not like he was a complete noob at the tournament.
If Dnegs is really at 1300-1400 as he says it doesn't worth it. He can learn by video/book or any chess master. Asking Magnus for lessons at his level is the same as asking Mike Tyson for a lesson when just starting basics in box. Could be fun though for both games promotion
@@ThereAreTwoGenders true but so does any chess master. Even if you had money you wouldn't hire Nobel prize winner of mathematics to teach your children basics of mathematics, which can teach a school teacher. I am sure that skills-wise Magnus can get much more from Dnegs in poker. But for Dnegs it could be good deal as well. For promo or just because he likes him etc. I think it would be an honor for Dnegs to give Magnus some poker lessons. Not sure though that Magnus needs them. Because for amateur-level he is already very good, for else I doubt that he has time
I really like how humble Daniel is. He is the kind of guy that shines through complementing others and not beat them down. So nice of him to give Gotham Chess a shout out! Would absolutely watch a television episode with Magnus Carlsen and Daniël playing somekind of Chess/poker mixup tournament!!
@@ziwuri Yeah, probably. But I thought maybe Daniël will get an advantage with chess and Magnus with poker. For example with the chess game Magnus plays with one less rook and in the poker game Magnus starts with 20% more chips... Or something like that... :-D
@@NuckCorris Hikaru Nakamura's been doing a joke speedrun where he intentionally loses his queen early on each game. He's beating like 2000+ elo players down a queen for a knight. I'm not sure Daniel could beat Magnus if he got odds of queen plus both rooks.
In the chess community a running joke is that Magnus is able to "squeeze water from a stone", in chess terms that would mean to manage to squeeze out a win from a theoretically drawn endgame, or to clutch out a draw from a seemingly lost position. I am not at all surprised to see him pull off similar shenanigans in Poker, loved the breakdown!
Great analysis. I don’t play poker, but I love watching it played and your explanations of what players are thinking at the moment help me appreciate the game even more.
@@lukegriffith7679 with money or without? How much time because sometimes with friends it takes too long when they drink sth/ look at their phones etc.
@@lukegriffith7679 normally we play without money but a lot of times it takes too long then to finish the game and when some people play too slowly it gets boring quickly
@@xiamlegend4421 just use maybe 10 euro buy in to make the game more serious, it will take as long as yous want based on the size of the blinds. Hope that helps
Giving Levy at Gotham Chess the shoutout. Fantastic! I think a lot of us love both poker and chess. There seems to be a decent amount of overlap, especially with content creators in both realms over the last two years or so. Great video, Daniel!
That Introduction from Daniel is the exact freaking reason I love watching Negreanu, in poker he has the same exact recall ability as Magnus lol He recalls hands, how the person played that hand, what he had in the hand against or just watching the opponent, the reasons for his actions, etc. he knows the plays they should make in that position... it's uncanny.
As a FM in chess and a reg in poker i have to admit that those to games share a lot especially after the poker solvers appeared in the poker scene. Magnus Carlsen is a prodigy and he could also be a great poker player propably!
@Daniel Negreanu One misconception that poker players make about chess: Chess is NOT a "full information" game, because the tree of variations is simply too wide to calculate to the end. In fact, not even the best chess computers can calculate lines to the end. There are more available chess moves in a game than atoms in the universe. Chess players must make sort of %EV determinations almost every move.
Why are you a fan of Magnus when Magnus is UNTALENTED at chess? Magnus Carlsen is great at chess but UNTALENTED AT CHESS. Magnus lost 4-0 to a NOBODY "w"esley "s"o in the 2019 inaugural world #9LX championship. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC. #saynoto2900
I think you can 100% say Magnus knew everything you were talking about, maybe with the exception of how heavily his range indicated the A♠️. He’s used to having game plans and reading his opponents’ intentions based on their movements, so that blocker bet (being a change in behaviour from his opponent) would have completely tipped off Magnus what he had and left Magnus with just the question of what he needs to bet to bluff him off of it.
How about you become a long time #9LX player instead of a long time chess player? Don't end up like Magnus. Be like Wesley. Magnus Carlsen is great at chess but UNTALENTED AT CHESS. Magnus lost 4-0 to a NOBODY "w"esley "s"o in the 2019 inaugural world #9LX championship. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC. #saynoto2900
@@nicbentulan What are you even talking about? Carlsen's opening is weak, sure, but his whole shitck has been to purposefully play less efficient opening moves and just grind until the endgame
@@roman343 Larry Kaufman: Magnus doesn't generally play such great openings, he strives to get the game out of book as early as possible usually. I think the issue here is that his greatest strength is the endgame, but FRC games are much more likely to be decided in the middlegame as the players are on their own so early. That's probably why he doesn't shine as brightly in FRC as in Classical chess.
I am so glad magnus is getting into poker, just like I was so excited to see Negreanu whipping out a Danish Gambit (of all things) in Pogchamps last year. it would be great to see more crossover content between these two legends!
It seems the poker world is trying to attract influencers to get into Poker... Are we awaiting another resurgence in poker? I would think twice getting these youngins to play as they are so analytic, it will bring new chaos into the poker world. Queue up the 50 tabling influencers!!!!
Amazing hand! I remember turning KK into a bluff and made AQ fold on a AJxxx board but turning AA into a bluff is something that almost no one does. Well played
I haven’t played poker in years, don’t really get the whole game but now i just stumbled onto ur channel and now im binging and can’t wait for the next game! Loved seeing you explain the sport
Interesting to see a player, who isn't as well experienced in poker, manage to bluff his opponent out of the spade flush. Once again, another fantastic breakdown video by Dnegs! I definitely would give Magnus credit for having the Ace of Spades with his 100K raise on the river.
The line he took and the thinking behind it is pretty high level so I don't think he isn't experienced much he even finished 50 out of 1000 + that's cool
Good for you, but I don't give Magnus ANY credit for LOSING to wesley in the world #9LX championship. Magnus Carlsen is great at chess but UNTALENTED AT CHESS. Magnus lost 4-0 to a NOBODY "w"esley "s"o in the 2019 inaugural world #9LX championship. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC. #saynoto2900
Chess and poker both give me the same feeling. For example, in a chess tournament; after a long think, I come up with what I think is the best move and then right as I'm moving the piece, my heart skips a beat and I forget to breath for like 2 or 3 seconds. The same sensation happens right when I make what I think is a big bet as a bluff. What is cool about Daniel Negreanu and Magnus Carlsen is that they are among the best at their prospective sports and dabble in the other for an intellectual challenge. As for me, I'm stuck in the "above average" category for both. Another name for that is, "I'm not making money at this" category. Love your content Daniel, just subscribed!
EXCITED OVER MAGNUS? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Magnus Carlsen is great at chess but UNTALENTED AT CHESS. Magnus lost 4-0 to a NOBODY "w"esley "s"o in the 2019 inaugural world #9LX championship. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC. #saynoto2900
There are too many shitty things going on in the world to keep track of, but one of the coolest things about being alive at this particular moment in time is how we all of a sudden get to see some of the greatest players of all time just talking and chilling while they play their games. Works for both poker and chess, as well as video games and all kinds of other stuff. Watching top poker players just talk during a session or watching Magnus talk while playing chess is absolutely fascinating.
We definetly demand a master vs. master series of videos! 😄 First game: Hold'em poker Second game: Chess! 😅 There is huge amount of potential content just waiting to happen and you have tons of information to gain from each other! This must happen Daniel!
Awesome video. What you say at 13:25 really applies to my piano playing lately. 2 years in, the things I’m trying to play now are so difficult to master it can feel less rewarding than the initial learning experience, but I’m sticking to it every day
Grand masters in chess would make great poker players. In many ways they try to get into their opponents heads and extract info or predict what their next move will be. Grand masters also have the ability to think like 20 to 30 moves in ahead in any game. Amazing
Most pros usually don't show their hands and I know why, but I love that he does here and says "it's not often you get to bluff with this hand". Mentally it has to be so taxing for his opponent.
Another great video Daniel thanks. One more interesting fact about Magnus Carlsen is that he is a top Fantasy Premier League (FPL) player. Last season he was ranked No1 for a bit. That means he was 1st out of over 8million players worldwide!! Maybe he is the modern day Stu Unger :-)
It shows that Daniel has at least a decent commitment to chess. I'm also a 1250 player and i average maybe 2 blitz games per day. It's not much but to spend 30 minutes per day for a year or so is a lot more than nothing.
Great vlog! Chess and poker have more things in common actually, even though chess is a game of complete information. BTW there are some combined chess/poker tournaments, pretty cool!
There's a choker tournament. Magnus won't beat Wesley there since choker has more luck than #9LX Magnus Carlsen is great at chess but UNTALENTED AT CHESS. Magnus lost 4-0 to a NOBODY "w"esley "s"o in the 2019 inaugural world #9LX championship. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC. #saynoto2900
PowerPlayChess does the best break downs of high level chess. He takes those high level, nuanced chess concepts and breaks them down in a very easy to understand way. Loved your break down of this hand btw!
it's so great that there's all this analysis as explained at the 11:27 chapter, and knowing that the player could have just completely forgotten about everything that happened and play based off emotion instead of logicizing everything and win anyway
Magnus is just outta this world.... I just don't know how else to put it, the dude is just, I don't know man... very impressive Magnus... as a person who has a love for chess and poker, this is very exciting to see Magnus step foot in both worlds, and not afraid to give it a go... This just impresses the hell out of me. I'm lost for words.... Anyway, shoutout to Daniel for the great content. I've also been a fan of his for many years, great poker player, one of the very best to do it... Thx Daniel, it's like becoming a fan all over again... Thank you!!!
Daniel: look how genius magnus is, evaluating all of the probable ranges and coming up with this great bluff based on pot percentages and reading his opponent Magnus, probably: hmmm.... aces seem pretty good. I guess I'll bet
I'm a professional horse player here in Toronto... as with high level chess and poker, a complex blend of math, science, psychology, memory and art are relied upon, and allow one's intuition to lead the dance... you and I know something that some recent world leaders seem oblivious to... thinking can be exhilarating...
Just realized that if you're holding Pocket Aces (with no spade) you can represent the Ace of Spades, since it is unlikely your opponent holds an Ace. Is this correct DNegs?
That's not correct. While it's true that your opponent is less likely to hold an ace, he's still just as likely to hold the ace of spades specifically when you have aces without the ace of spades.
I think the problem with calling with hands like J7o is exactly this, even when you have the best hand, you’re still unsure whether you have the best hand.
I came here from the Chess side of RUclips. Today, Daniel humbly and kindly taught me that I actually know nothing about poker at all. Seems like a real nice guy, I'd love to play him at chess.
That's an interesting spot! I was a bit surprised about his river raise sizing. With 180 in the pot I would have thought all in would have been the sizing of choice to better polarize the range (I'm likely mistaken here and am interested what the solver says on optimal sizing). Love these hand reviews Daniel, keep em coming!
i think 100k is enough to bluff off nearly anyone who wouldn't call you all in. magnus is representing the A of spades with some serious plausibility here, but he also doesn't have it, and a player doesn't have to fold if he is not convinced. so, why not hold back a reserve? either you win the exact same pot as you would by bluffing him all in, or you unfortunately lose a pretty big pot but at least survive to the next hand and a chance to win it back.
also from what I've heard (I haven't used one yet but it's official I have got to start) solvers can be a little weird about pot sizing. not wrong, obviously, just not always what a human would expect.
Think about it for a second, what edge do you gain here with all in, when you only win if he folds? You gain +0 if you win because he folds, but you lose hell of a lot more. Also as you said all-in is more polarizing, and an all in here would look fishy to be honest, because if he has the Ace of Spades he wouldn't want to scare me aways from the pot, he would want to bet a range that I would actually call with a lesser flush. (Sorry I know I'm 1 year too late with this reply, but I just found this gem.) That 100k was a perfect raise to be honest.
EXCITED OVER MAGNUS? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Magnus Carlsen is great at chess but UNTALENTED AT CHESS. Magnus lost 4-0 to a NOBODY "w"esley "s"o in the 2019 inaugural world #9LX championship. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC. #saynoto2900
That's one of the the best Poker videos I've seen....& being able to play both games at a mediocre level, I really enjoyed Daniel's comments. Excellent entertainment.
You might wanna correct the description of the video as Grandmaster Magnus since Master is a lower level in chess. :) Love you, dude. Hope you keep on teaching us plebs more about poker.
Got to love DN....one of the very few poker elite out there doing videos like this without any care about how much he's going to make. Dudes won stacks. Dies this for the love of the game. Got to respect that. Cheers Daniel.
I had a hand exactly this where I was in Magnus' position. I played it exactly like Magnus and got called in pretty much the exact same situation. It was a hard call for my opponent, he tanked for a while, but ultimately called. What was frustrating was on one hand I felt like I made an awesome play and it just didn't work out, then on the other hand I felt like I got too fancy and just over played. I was really into poker but that hand has made me take a break. Thanks for posting this I needed to see it.
Hey Daniel I’ve been getting into the game of poker more and more recently and have been loving watching your educational content. I actually just managed to stumble upon this channel recently so I can’t wait to binge all your stuff. Thanks for being a great player and uploading this content for us!
@Daniel Negreanu Study the concept of pins in chess. Master pins as a wargame strategy, both offensively and defensively, and your rating will improve at chess, guaranteed.
Daniel if you don’t already know of him you should look into Eric Rosen, a guy that says “here have my queen” but in a way that ends up being devastating for the opponent. Which is always fun.
This was very entertaining and informative. Always have liked watching Daniel. Seems like an ordinarily nice guy with extreme talent. Would be fun to have a drink with.
missing is the insight i first noticed when magnus uploaded his clips that he hasn't learned how to shuffle chips so he just moves a block of them around. something about playing poker even in a hand you just gotta be doing something almost like running a clock
To your comment about chess/poker solvers we really don’t have one in the poker world. The fun part about poker is that it’s almost completely opponent oriented. Your moves have to be based on whether you think your opponent will fold, bet, raise, etc. and what hands they’re going to do it with, (for example bluffing a loose player when you know they have you beat will always be a bad play). Now of course there are poker engines who given a large enough sample size can determine a players tendency’s but without this the engine could easily give you the wrong play. In chess this isn’t the case, there’s always going to be 1 move that is the best regardless of who you’re playing against. Chess is more like you’re playing against the board instead of an actual opponents tendencies. I’m sure you know this but I’d thought I’d point it out anyways since it’s a very interesting part of both games.
First time watching one of your videos. I’ve watched videos of poker containing you and I watch a decent amount of chess to. Love both games. Love watching Magnus Carlson. This was a great video to watch and I’m glad there’s so much content out there on RUclips for something like poker or chess. Keep up the high quality videos.
Chess is a great game not just for poker skills though as it teaches patience and the ability to see. Lasker's missive after all is 'when you see a good move, stop, think and find a better one' Jen Shahade is very well known across both poker and chess worlds, plus still can't believe Alexandra Botez' taking down of Hellmuth and co recently also.
lol, I remember you as Kid Poker when I was younger, now you're rocking the Canadian Lumberjack beard. Looks good just a fascinating transformation from when I watched poker on TV in the aughts/early 2010's. Poker theory has come a long way since then these breakdowns are fascinating and the parallels between Chess and Poker are also fascinating. Shame I'm nowhere near as good as Magnus at chess and nowhere near as good as you at poker.
Daniel, I play exactly the same way that you do. I've gotten to a a 1300 place and I just don't bother too move on lol Also great to hear you mentioning some of the fun chess creators on youtube!
I used to watch poker on tv a the time as a kid, ayed a bit of chess but started getting into it as an adult. Loved seeing DNegs and some poker payers getting chess lessons thanks for putting those up, and loving seeing chess players like Botez and Nemo taking poker lessons. So much fun seeing crossover in the games :D I'm bad at both but w.e.
Won’t BB have more As, Ks because BB will call more offsuit combos pre than HJ will open?? Also BB should have all suited A,k here but not HJ.. how does HJ have nut advantage then??
I have a question that I hope is not too stupid: does your range change if you’re a frequent raiser from a certain position. For example you almost always raise the button. Or let’s say you pick utg to always raise
Nice to see the goat of texas holdem plays chess and watches Gotham Chess. What a hand for Magnus! You guys should meet and make a little chess and poker video! Both games have interesting tactics 😊
Daniel analyzying Magnus's Poker: *_(Animated)_* "I really like that play" Magnus analyzing Daniel's chess: *_(Flatly)_* "He should not be smiling; he should be ashamed of himself"
Chess skills translate well to any logic and memory game, so poker is well within the range of games they would have a leg up in, since the ability to remember how an opponent plays and predict strategy they might use is pivotal
14:24 Appreciate the shout out!
You are my favorite chess channel, never one comment in your videos relating to things that aren't chess. Meaning politics etc
Glad you saw this
maestro of poker and a chess maestro
2 heavyweights
It's just amazing to me how we have Negreanu analyzing Magnus' poker, I mean these are two GOATS in two completely different fields! We're so lucky we live in a time where we have access to amazing content from them both
I wouldn't say completely different fields, they're both intellectual games and they're both table games. Kinda like physics and chemistry. But you're right, its awesome to have these two GOATS 🐐 🐐
Negreanu is a good poker player, but he's not the GOAT. Hellmuth is.
*insert trollface here*
@@Kryptonian42042 "they're both intellectual" 😂😂😂
@@catanace1741 dn hearted the comment so he probably thinks he's a goat - although he's one of these types 🐐
Now we need Magnus analyzing Negreanu's chess.
Magnus is indeed a genius, his ability to calculate multiple scenarios quickly is a good skill for poker.
Daniel could take him down most of the time because Daniel reads people and is an absolute master of table psychology.
@@TheNoobsteak Magnus would definitely learn quicker than the average bear . No question about that .
@@TheNoobsteak well would be pretty sad if not.
Idk he could of easily thought he was just chilling with those aces. I don’t see any genius gameplay here lol But i like the breakdowns from the OG poker champ.
@@KOSHPARZ No, he immediately tells that it's not often you get to turn that hand into a bluff. He knew exactly what he was doing. He has also played a decent amount of online poker earlier, so it's not like he was a complete noob at the tournament.
Why don’t you ask Magnus for some lessons in Chess, in exchange for some Poker Tuition.
If Dnegs is really at 1300-1400 as he says it doesn't worth it. He can learn by video/book or any chess master. Asking Magnus for lessons at his level is the same as asking Mike Tyson for a lesson when just starting basics in box.
Could be fun though for both games promotion
@@SergeiSnitsarenkobut wouldn’t you want to learn the fundamentals from the very best?
@@SergeiSnitsarenko obviously magnus wouldn’t teach him the high level stuff, but magnus knows what is best for a 1300 to get to 1400
@@ThereAreTwoGenders true but so does any chess master. Even if you had money you wouldn't hire Nobel prize winner of mathematics to teach your children basics of mathematics, which can teach a school teacher. I am sure that skills-wise Magnus can get much more from Dnegs in poker. But for Dnegs it could be good deal as well. For promo or just because he likes him etc. I think it would be an honor for Dnegs to give Magnus some poker lessons. Not sure though that Magnus needs them. Because for amateur-level he is already very good, for else I doubt that he has time
Magnus doesn’t really need it lol
I really like how humble Daniel is. He is the kind of guy that shines through complementing others and not beat them down. So nice of him to give Gotham Chess a shout out!
Would absolutely watch a television episode with Magnus Carlsen and Daniël playing somekind of Chess/poker mixup tournament!!
@@Ravenz4 Hate will never win
Daniel would get completely destroyed though... Magnus is much better at poker than Daniel is at chess.
@@ziwuri Yeah, probably. But I thought maybe Daniël will get an advantage with chess and Magnus with poker. For example with the chess game Magnus plays with one less rook and in the poker game Magnus starts with 20% more chips... Or something like that... :-D
@@NuckCorris Hikaru Nakamura's been doing a joke speedrun where he intentionally loses his queen early on each game. He's beating like 2000+ elo players down a queen for a knight. I'm not sure Daniel could beat Magnus if he got odds of queen plus both rooks.
One of my favorite all time poker players!
the dude played fantasy football too and finished in the top 100 out of 8 mil people. Just built different.
I think he was in second place at one point.
@@tenaciousme3105 first.
He was live first at one point
In the chess community a running joke is that Magnus is able to "squeeze water from a stone", in chess terms that would mean to manage to squeeze out a win from a theoretically drawn endgame, or to clutch out a draw from a seemingly lost position. I am not at all surprised to see him pull off similar shenanigans in Poker, loved the breakdown!
Great analysis. I don’t play poker, but I love watching it played and your explanations of what players are thinking at the moment help me appreciate the game even more.
You should gather 5 or 6 friends and play together, i think youd really enjoy it
@@lukegriffith7679 with money or without? How much time because sometimes with friends it takes too long when they drink sth/ look at their phones etc.
@@lukegriffith7679 normally we play without money but a lot of times it takes too long then to finish the game and when some people play too slowly it gets boring quickly
@@xiamlegend4421 just use maybe 10 euro buy in to make the game more serious, it will take as long as yous want based on the size of the blinds.
Hope that helps
@@lukegriffith7679 yea thanks, i just remembered that we sometimes forgot to raise the blinds so therefore it took longer
Giving Levy at Gotham Chess the shoutout. Fantastic! I think a lot of us love both poker and chess. There seems to be a decent amount of overlap, especially with content creators in both realms over the last two years or so.
Great video, Daniel!
watch xqc vs Daniel
That Introduction from Daniel is the exact freaking reason I love watching Negreanu, in poker he has the same exact recall ability as Magnus lol He recalls hands, how the person played that hand, what he had in the hand against or just watching the opponent, the reasons for his actions, etc. he knows the plays they should make in that position... it's uncanny.
As a FM in chess and a reg in poker i have to admit that those to games share a lot especially after the poker solvers appeared in the poker scene.
Magnus Carlsen is a prodigy and he could also be a great poker player propably!
Great video Daniel I really like the content you’ve been putting up!
Great example of how, with the right mindset & moves, cracked aces can prevail. Another awesome hand breakdown, Daniel🙌🏼💞
as both a chess and poker fan, this is amazing. my favourite poker player analysing one of my favourite chess players.
yeah, and it's just free on the internet and we can watch it on the toilet or in bed or on the bus on the way to work.... life is good!
@Daniel Negreanu One misconception that poker players make about chess: Chess is NOT a "full information" game, because the tree of variations is simply too wide to calculate to the end. In fact, not even the best chess computers can calculate lines to the end. There are more available chess moves in a game than atoms in the universe. Chess players must make sort of %EV determinations almost every move.
All you’ve achieved so far and you’re still such a humble dude.
As a fan of both Carlsen and yourself this video was awesome! Thank you mate 😁
Why are you a fan of Magnus when Magnus is UNTALENTED at chess?
Magnus Carlsen is great at chess but UNTALENTED AT CHESS. Magnus lost 4-0 to a NOBODY "w"esley "s"o in the 2019 inaugural world #9LX championship. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep.
PATHETIC. #saynoto2900
I think you can 100% say Magnus knew everything you were talking about, maybe with the exception of how heavily his range indicated the A♠️. He’s used to having game plans and reading his opponents’ intentions based on their movements, so that blocker bet (being a change in behaviour from his opponent) would have completely tipped off Magnus what he had and left Magnus with just the question of what he needs to bet to bluff him off of it.
This is the Aces Gambit. Once played in 1973. Doyle against a dude in bell bottoms. A classic. How does nobody remember?
I'm a long time chess player just getting into poker. Great to see the worlds collide!
How about you become a long time #9LX player instead of a long time chess player?
Don't end up like Magnus. Be like Wesley.
Magnus Carlsen is great at chess but UNTALENTED AT CHESS. Magnus lost 4-0 to a NOBODY "w"esley "s"o in the 2019 inaugural world #9LX championship. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep.
PATHETIC. #saynoto2900
@@nicbentulan What are you even talking about? Carlsen's opening is weak, sure, but his whole shitck has been to purposefully play less efficient opening moves and just grind until the endgame
@@roman343 Larry Kaufman:
Magnus doesn't generally play such great openings, he strives to get the game out of book as early as possible usually. I think the issue here is that his greatest strength is the endgame, but FRC games are much more likely to be decided in the middlegame as the players are on their own so early. That's probably why he doesn't shine as brightly in FRC as in Classical chess.
I am so glad magnus is getting into poker, just like I was so excited to see Negreanu whipping out a Danish Gambit (of all things) in Pogchamps last year. it would be great to see more crossover content between these two legends!
It seems the poker world is trying to attract influencers to get into Poker... Are we awaiting another resurgence in poker? I would think twice getting these youngins to play as they are so analytic, it will bring new chaos into the poker world. Queue up the 50 tabling influencers!!!!
So happy to see this Daniel! At the grand age of 66 I’m just starting to learn chess ♟
Welcome to the chess community, Lindsey! I'm 55 & been playing for almost forty years, with a fair degree of success - hope you can follow suit
You are too old boomer. Sit on the wheelchair
Both a blessing and a curse when you finally start learning the game instead of just staring down your friends and doing random shit
Amazing hand! I remember turning KK into a bluff and made AQ fold on a AJxxx board but turning AA into a bluff is something that almost no one does. Well played
Very good analysis. I'm impressed how strong he thrusted his read
Gotta thrust your read
Really good analysis and nice bluff by Magnus. Like he said its not often you see someone bluff with aces lol
The hint/joke on how to play Q4s on the turn against Phil Hellmuth got me burst out laughing so hard LMFAO. Loved this video and analysis Dan 🙏🏻❤
Loveee the plug to some chess youtubers channels! That's so awesome of you Daniel. Cheers!
I haven’t played poker in years, don’t really get the whole game but now i just stumbled onto ur channel and now im binging and can’t wait for the next game! Loved seeing you explain the sport
Interesting to see a player, who isn't as well experienced in poker, manage to bluff his opponent out of the spade flush. Once again, another fantastic breakdown video by Dnegs! I definitely would give Magnus credit for having the Ace of Spades with his 100K raise on the river.
The line he took and the thinking behind it is pretty high level so I don't think he isn't experienced much he even finished 50 out of 1000 + that's cool
Good for you, but I don't give Magnus ANY credit for LOSING to wesley in the world #9LX championship.
Magnus Carlsen is great at chess but UNTALENTED AT CHESS. Magnus lost 4-0 to a NOBODY "w"esley "s"o in the 2019 inaugural world #9LX championship. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep.
PATHETIC. #saynoto2900
@@nicbentulan get a life, psiquiatry, psychology asap
@@juliocadavid6640 Why? I'm already under psychiatric treatment for ADHD-PH
Magnus did in this hand what he does in chess games. He took it to a brutal endgame and forced his will upon his opponent. Absolute chad
It is so enjoyable to watch worlds collide. Realy enjoyed the explanation. Was great seeing u compete in pogchamps and have fun with chess!
Chess and poker both give me the same feeling. For example, in a chess tournament; after a long think, I come up with what I think is the best move and then right as I'm moving the piece, my heart skips a beat and I forget to breath for like 2 or 3 seconds. The same sensation happens right when I make what I think is a big bet as a bluff. What is cool about Daniel Negreanu and Magnus Carlsen is that they are among the best at their prospective sports and dabble in the other for an intellectual challenge. As for me, I'm stuck in the "above average" category for both. Another name for that is, "I'm not making money at this" category. Love your content Daniel, just subscribed!
Carlsen announced today that he will be in Vegas to play the WSOP Main Event.
More Magnus content, how awesome!! love it when the two worlds collide
EXCITED OVER MAGNUS? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Magnus Carlsen is great at chess but UNTALENTED AT CHESS. Magnus lost 4-0 to a NOBODY "w"esley "s"o in the 2019 inaugural world #9LX championship. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep.
PATHETIC. #saynoto2900
Great breakdown per usual! I love chess also, I have been playing it for 10 years. It is a very intriguing game.
There are too many shitty things going on in the world to keep track of, but one of the coolest things about being alive at this particular moment in time is how we all of a sudden get to see some of the greatest players of all time just talking and chilling while they play their games. Works for both poker and chess, as well as video games and all kinds of other stuff. Watching top poker players just talk during a session or watching Magnus talk while playing chess is absolutely fascinating.
We definetly demand a master vs. master series of videos! 😄
First game: Hold'em poker
Second game: Chess! 😅
There is huge amount of potential content just waiting to happen and you have tons of information to gain from each other!
This must happen Daniel!
"The best way to refute a gambit is to accept it" - Wilhelm Steinitz, WSOP x 2 bracelet winner.
Awesome video. What you say at 13:25 really applies to my piano playing lately. 2 years in, the things I’m trying to play now are so difficult to master it can feel less rewarding than the initial learning experience, but I’m sticking to it every day
Grand masters in chess would make great poker players. In many ways they try to get into their opponents heads and extract info or predict what their next move will be. Grand masters also have the ability to think like 20 to 30 moves in ahead in any game. Amazing
A few of them might need to work on their poker faces first! Some of them can be very expressive 😅
Most pros usually don't show their hands and I know why, but I love that he does here and says "it's not often you get to bluff with this hand". Mentally it has to be so taxing for his opponent.
Another great video Daniel thanks. One more interesting fact about Magnus Carlsen is that he is a top Fantasy Premier League (FPL) player. Last season he was ranked No1 for a bit. That means he was 1st out of over 8million players worldwide!! Maybe he is the modern day Stu Unger :-)
It shows that Daniel has at least a decent commitment to chess. I'm also a 1250 player and i average maybe 2 blitz games per day. It's not much but to spend 30 minutes per day for a year or so is a lot more than nothing.
Great vlog! Chess and poker have more things in common actually, even though chess is a game of complete information.
BTW there are some combined chess/poker tournaments, pretty cool!
There's a choker tournament. Magnus won't beat Wesley there since choker has more luck than #9LX
Magnus Carlsen is great at chess but UNTALENTED AT CHESS. Magnus lost 4-0 to a NOBODY "w"esley "s"o in the 2019 inaugural world #9LX championship. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep.
PATHETIC. #saynoto2900
Daniel, you analyzed his game much better than many chess analysts analyze his chess games!
Thanks Daniel you are helping us a lot over here. Huge appreciation for your work man!!!
Loving the chess/poker crossover videos, I watch all the ChessTube and PokerTube videos and amazed how many chess players do play poker.
PowerPlayChess does the best break downs of high level chess. He takes those high level, nuanced chess concepts and breaks them down in a very easy to understand way. Loved your break down of this hand btw!
it's so great that there's all this analysis as explained at the 11:27 chapter, and knowing that the player could have just completely forgotten about everything that happened and play based off emotion instead of logicizing everything and win anyway
13:28 Every time I go to a fancy restaurant
Great to see Daniel is a chess enthusiast too!
Magnus is just outta this world.... I just don't know how else to put it, the dude is just, I don't know man... very impressive Magnus... as a person who has a love for chess and poker, this is very exciting to see Magnus step foot in both worlds, and not afraid to give it a go... This just impresses the hell out of me. I'm lost for words.... Anyway, shoutout to Daniel for the great content. I've also been a fan of his for many years, great poker player, one of the very best to do it... Thx Daniel, it's like becoming a fan all over again... Thank you!!!
When a GOAT analyzes a GOAT.
Daniel: look how genius magnus is, evaluating all of the probable ranges and coming up with this great bluff based on pot percentages and reading his opponent
Magnus, probably: hmmm.... aces seem pretty good. I guess I'll bet
I'm a professional horse player here in Toronto... as with high level chess and poker, a complex blend of math, science, psychology, memory and art are relied upon, and allow one's intuition to lead the dance... you and I know something that some recent world leaders seem oblivious to... thinking can be exhilarating...
Great video! Awesome to see chess and poker collide. I would love to see a recap of the clip where he calls the bluff in the same tournament
Just realized that if you're holding Pocket Aces (with no spade) you can represent the Ace of Spades, since it is unlikely your opponent holds an Ace. Is this correct DNegs?
That's not correct. While it's true that your opponent is less likely to hold an ace, he's still just as likely to hold the ace of spades specifically when you have aces without the ace of spades.
Agreed
@@riddlevidz9825 how Come? If i hold 2 out of 4 aces, inst it more likely that they dont have an ace?
@@jonasjorgensen8759 re-read his comment. The ace of spades is a specific card, it's not a range of cards like an ace (1 of 4 possible cards).
Would love to see you have him as a guest on your show, and co-analyze some hands. How does a chess master think about poker?
I think the problem with calling with hands like J7o is exactly this, even when you have the best hand, you’re still unsure whether you have the best hand.
nice one Dnegs but I prefer the other televised hand he played against Sjostrom which in my cursory view was expertly played using good bet sizes etc
I came here from the Chess side of RUclips. Today, Daniel humbly and kindly taught me that I actually know nothing about poker at all. Seems like a real nice guy, I'd love to play him at chess.
now I really wanna see Magnus analyzing one of your chess games :D
That's an interesting spot! I was a bit surprised about his river raise sizing. With 180 in the pot I would have thought all in would have been the sizing of choice to better polarize the range (I'm likely mistaken here and am interested what the solver says on optimal sizing).
Love these hand reviews Daniel, keep em coming!
i think 100k is enough to bluff off nearly anyone who wouldn't call you all in. magnus is representing the A of spades with some serious plausibility here, but he also doesn't have it, and a player doesn't have to fold if he is not convinced. so, why not hold back a reserve? either you win the exact same pot as you would by bluffing him all in, or you unfortunately lose a pretty big pot but at least survive to the next hand and a chance to win it back.
also from what I've heard (I haven't used one yet but it's official I have got to start) solvers can be a little weird about pot sizing. not wrong, obviously, just not always what a human would expect.
Think about it for a second, what edge do you gain here with all in, when you only win if he folds? You gain +0 if you win because he folds, but you lose hell of a lot more. Also as you said all-in is more polarizing, and an all in here would look fishy to be honest, because if he has the Ace of Spades he wouldn't want to scare me aways from the pot, he would want to bet a range that I would actually call with a lesser flush. (Sorry I know I'm 1 year too late with this reply, but I just found this gem.) That 100k was a perfect raise to be honest.
yeah smart raise. 70k to call a 210k pot looks like you're crying for the call.
I’m excited to watch Magnus. This man is a genius
EXCITED OVER MAGNUS? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Magnus Carlsen is great at chess but UNTALENTED AT CHESS. Magnus lost 4-0 to a NOBODY "w"esley "s"o in the 2019 inaugural world #9LX championship. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep.
PATHETIC. #saynoto2900
That's one of the the best Poker videos I've seen....& being able to play both games at a mediocre level, I really enjoyed Daniel's comments. Excellent entertainment.
You might wanna correct the description of the video as Grandmaster Magnus since Master is a lower level in chess. :) Love you, dude. Hope you keep on teaching us plebs more about poker.
Got to love DN....one of the very few poker elite out there doing videos like this without any care about how much he's going to make. Dudes won stacks. Dies this for the love of the game. Got to respect that. Cheers Daniel.
I had a hand exactly this where I was in Magnus' position. I played it exactly like Magnus and got called in pretty much the exact same situation. It was a hard call for my opponent, he tanked for a while, but ultimately called. What was frustrating was on one hand I felt like I made an awesome play and it just didn't work out, then on the other hand I felt like I got too fancy and just over played. I was really into poker but that hand has made me take a break. Thanks for posting this I needed to see it.
In poker you can make the exact same plays but get different results. Just stay strong and you'll know which play is correct.
Magnus memory is so good, he can probably remember all the specific solvers.
Would love to see Magnus confirm Daniels breakdown thoughts on his play here
I love it. Im a norwegian chess and poker fan myself
My man has completed chess and now is doing the side quests
Hey Daniel I’ve been getting into the game of poker more and more recently and have been loving watching your educational content. I actually just managed to stumble upon this channel recently so I can’t wait to binge all your stuff. Thanks for being a great player and uploading this content for us!
@Daniel Negreanu Study the concept of pins in chess. Master pins as a wargame strategy, both offensively and defensively, and your rating will improve at chess, guaranteed.
Daniel if you don’t already know of him you should look into Eric Rosen, a guy that says “here have my queen” but in a way that ends up being devastating for the opponent. Which is always fun.
Eric is a great RUclipsr! Chill, kind, educational and his trickster approach to chess is very entertaining.
I'm watching a video of Daniel Negreanu break down a poker hand of Magnus Carlsen,while Gotham Chess is shouted out.What Universe is this?🥶
Awesome analysis. I miss the pogchamps days when you would stream chess, is that ever coming back? Those streams were super fun to watch
This was very entertaining and informative. Always have liked watching Daniel. Seems like an ordinarily nice guy with extreme talent. Would be fun to have a drink with.
missing is the insight i first noticed when magnus uploaded his clips that he hasn't learned how to shuffle chips so he just moves a block of them around. something about playing poker even in a hand you just gotta be doing something almost like running a clock
We are talking savant levels of memory recall, scary dude to play against.
To your comment about chess/poker solvers we really don’t have one in the poker world.
The fun part about poker is that it’s almost completely opponent oriented. Your moves have to be based on whether you think your opponent will fold, bet, raise, etc. and what hands they’re going to do it with, (for example bluffing a loose player when you know they have you beat will always be a bad play). Now of course there are poker engines who given a large enough sample size can determine a players tendency’s but without this the engine could easily give you the wrong play.
In chess this isn’t the case, there’s always going to be 1 move that is the best regardless of who you’re playing against. Chess is more like you’re playing against the board instead of an actual opponents tendencies.
I’m sure you know this but I’d thought I’d point it out anyways since it’s a very interesting part of both games.
I am so waiting for your rundown on why you fold Full House of 9991010 against Phil K10 and set of 555 from other player. You put him on Quads!
Loved you in the Pogchamps tournament!
First time watching one of your videos. I’ve watched videos of poker containing you and I watch a decent amount of chess to. Love both games. Love watching Magnus Carlson. This was a great video to watch and I’m glad there’s so much content out there on RUclips for something like poker or chess. Keep up the high quality videos.
Someone commented on the latest Chess Vibes video that there was a shout out here so thought I’d come check it out. Seems like a cool channel.
Chess is a great game not just for poker skills though as it teaches patience and the ability to see. Lasker's missive after all is 'when you see a good move, stop, think and find a better one'
Jen Shahade is very well known across both poker and chess worlds, plus still can't believe Alexandra Botez' taking down of Hellmuth and co recently also.
lol, I remember you as Kid Poker when I was younger, now you're rocking the Canadian Lumberjack beard. Looks good just a fascinating transformation from when I watched poker on TV in the aughts/early 2010's. Poker theory has come a long way since then these breakdowns are fascinating and the parallels between Chess and Poker are also fascinating. Shame I'm nowhere near as good as Magnus at chess and nowhere near as good as you at poker.
Daniel, I play exactly the same way that you do. I've gotten to a a 1300 place and I just don't bother too move on lol Also great to hear you mentioning some of the fun chess creators on youtube!
I used to watch poker on tv a the time as a kid, ayed a bit of chess but started getting into it as an adult. Loved seeing DNegs and some poker payers getting chess lessons thanks for putting those up, and loving seeing chess players like Botez and Nemo taking poker lessons. So much fun seeing crossover in the games :D
I'm bad at both but w.e.
I'm pretty sure Magnus is appreciating this.
To get a poker hand on Daniel's channel.
The best of two worlds. Great, and thank you.
Won’t BB have more As, Ks because BB will call more offsuit combos pre than HJ will open?? Also BB should have all suited A,k here but not HJ.. how does HJ have nut advantage then??
I have a question that I hope is not too stupid: does your range change if you’re a frequent raiser from a certain position. For example you almost always raise the button. Or let’s say you pick utg to always raise
Love the Gotham shoutout. Cool to see Dnegs in about the same spot in his chess journey as I am
Nice to see the goat of texas holdem plays chess and watches Gotham Chess.
What a hand for Magnus! You guys should meet and make a little chess and poker video! Both games have interesting tactics 😊
This is great. I always wondered how Magnus would do in other games besides chess.
I'm not into poker, but very nice and humble video! I really admire great players who manage to stay humble.
Daniel analyzying Magnus's Poker:
*_(Animated)_* "I really like that play"
Magnus analyzing Daniel's chess:
*_(Flatly)_* "He should not be smiling; he should be ashamed of himself"
Its not a great Daniel Negreanu video without a small needle to Phil Hellmuth :D
Chess minds seem to do well in poker, they're primed to think about multiple possibilities/outcomes all the time.
the norwegian world championship 0:39
Chess skills translate well to any logic and memory game, so poker is well within the range of games they would have a leg up in, since the ability to remember how an opponent plays and predict strategy they might use is pivotal