I'll give credit where it is due. Daniel's ability to grow, learn, and adapt to the evolving poker world is impressive. A decade ago I don't recall him ever talking about poker in a theoretical context. After the Doug heads-up match though... the change is impressive.
I’ve always thought dnegs is one of the best. His ability to put people on their exact hand often is uncanny. Loved watching you 10 years ago. Love watching you today.
@@userac-xpg Daniel can afford it easily, and playing one of the best in the world helps you grow and improve as a player.. nothing in playing Doug was a mistake, it was great for him for many reasons
He wouldn’t have been where he was at a decade ago without theory. His RUclips presence may not have been big back then but he was definitely talking theory
yeah it’s crazy. & these are intermediate concepts now… it gets way deeper than this Poker’s a beautiful game. Super deep at the highest levels, but still fun to play for any gambler.
It’s all relative to the table. Every table plays differently. As Dewey Tomko said in a recent interview, exploit the table to be a long term winning player. Can’t play the same way, regardless how advanced, at every table.
This is why I prefer PLO, Omaha and mixed games. The skills required to have a big edge in those games is non trivial, but to compete with even above average players in NL, you need to have a much deeper understanding of the game and of how people play. There is this also very annoying truth that due to implied odds, people who play "bad" poker do a lot better in NL, especially if they can read hands and opponents well.
Fascinating analysis. Completely enjoyed this. Phil is married to a psychiatrist. I am sure she advises him on how to behave to take the advantage. His histrionics are timed and well orchestrated. When he busts out, he has a couch to lie on.
I strongly doubt she advises him on how to throw tantrums to manipulate other players. Phil thinks he's better than everyone. The tantrums flow naturally.
@@PseudoAccurate to be fair, Phil did just beat Antonio and Negrranu. If Ivey joins and the offchance Ivey loses, it's fair to say Hellmuth is the GOAT. Annoying or not.
I'm really happy to see Daniel still being in touch with modern-day poker theory and learning more about the game. That's not common for "old heads" in any category. Guess his name Kid Poker helped him stay young and fresh!
Honestly love that he makes videos like this. Breaking down hands, breaking down plays. Things done right, things that could've been done better to make more money, watching him and videos about his calls and his abilities in the poker scene have made me watch and love poker even more.
Phil really comes off as a guy that if you don’t play the numbers like he see’s then you don’t know how to play poker. But isn’t a part of poker playing the person just as much as the hand and numbers? I appreciate how positive and cool you are in every situation. I appreciate the knowledge you give
Phil is already set in the way he plays bcoz he can’t get past the emotion of it, it’s the “This always happens to me syndrome”. Like he wants to go off. Haha...
It is really cool that pros share their thought process. If I was a pro, I'd be hesitant to let other pros know what I was thinking during a session against them. Of course Daniel probably has another 10 levels of knowledge he isn't sharing.
It seems to me that dnegs is the only old school pro that has adapted to poker in 2021. I’d love to see Phil Helmuth play 100 tournaments against the best online tournament players in the world. It would be a massacre.
@@leemer First, I love Doug Polk. Second, The complexity of heads up poker is mind blowing and he faced one of the all time best hunl players. It was obvious to everyone (almost everyone) that he studied with solvers, coaches and improved his hu game tremendously. Whether he won or lost shouldn’t matter to him because there won’t be many, if any, mtt players that will have studied hu postflop and then got real experience by applying what he learned against the best. He was already a great mtt player, so imagine what he can do now that he developed a skill that almost all mtt players lack which is postflop play. It’s such an advantage to have that ability when the rest of us are still applying preflop concepts and have a vague idea of what postflop actually is. Would you want him on your left in an mtt? C’mon man, recognize what he did and how it applies to his overall ability. Short term loss, long term win.
@@dougr642 everything you just said is nonsense. I watched this video too and it's pretty bad. I want to like Negreanu, but the guy is a sore loser for sure. He doesn't understand online poker at all from what we saw against Doug. It was karma that he lost this way to Phil.
@@leemer I tried googling your name with poker and didn’t find anything. So now I’m thinking you’re a “chat pro”, I could be wrong (I often am) but usually your kind of “analysis” indicates a straight down poker graph. I hope that’s not the case. I hope you do well at poker. What did he do against Doug that makes you think he doesn’t understand online poker? Give details. I study. I belong to a study group as well and we are always willing to learn. So enlighten me.
Thank you for the match with Phil :) It was fun to watch. I ordered PokerGo just to watch it. Phil is a dangerous short stack player. Just facts. I think you are a much better player overall Daniel.
There were multiple great points made in this video regarding deep stack vs other when it comes to heads up play, especially the part about not thinking in terms of the actual chip amount of the 3 bet, but how many big blinds you were already in for at the point, and assessing whether to make the call. Thank you for posting ♦️ ♣️ ♦️
I think Phil plays a certain style and it works for him , sure he has been lucky in spots when he hit a flush on the river and the hand when he had a higher flush draw with a gootshot , but in a long run he makes his style work and as a tournament player he is there .
Phil as great of a tournament poker player as he is, seems to struggle with adjusting to how people currently think and play the game. The perfect example of "you can't teach an old dog new tricks".
yeah but he keeps winning bracelets, he has won 4 in the last 3 years, so he is doing something right. But yes in cash games he struggles to adapt to the new gto strategy that has been configured into the modern players way of playing.
That's such a nonsense statement! Phil is rich, doesn't need cash games! He wants bracelets. Sponsorships make him all the money he might make in cash games. Nobodies need cash games. Not Phil.
He's terrible at poker in general. Binked a few small field high buyin tourneys to win 2 bracelets early, then kinda played in every WSOP tourney possibly over 30 years and somehow only managed to win 16 bracelets total. Any average player can win 16 out of like 10000 events...so saying he has bracelets is not impressive at all. Statistically thats way less wins than any average player would have. If you bought in a sub-average 1/2 cash player into as many WSOP events as he'd played, I guarantee they'd have more than 16 bracelets in 30 years....
@@razersedge2k974 time will tell and back in the day when 300 players played the main event, all 300 were considered the best players in the world, not like now where 3/4 of the field are there like it was a lottery ticket. And there's like hundreds of poker games now and chances to win bracelets. Back in the 80's and 90's there were less than 25 events per year now its over 100. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Series_of_Poker#:~:text=As%20of%202020%2C%20the%20WSOP%20consists%20of%20101,days%20during%20the%20series%20in%20June%20and%20July. Phil's were hard-earned bracelets. Thats where you are wrong.
I was watching the Heads Up at the Rio in 2019 and far across I hear "What kind of idiot doesn't fold a three bet with 7-8 off suit," and then a bunch of other stuff, just as Helmuth was standing up throwing his hands into the air and ...well you know the rest. My wife asked me who was that. I said, that is my uncle Walt playing pinochle crying and complaining all the way to 100.
I have to be honest before even watching this hellmuth seems like a legend and someone who would school alot of big players because his play seems to be different and highly active and accuses ppl of being dumb when he plays trash occasionally too and wins pots doing it. Love seeing you two play 1 man methodical 1 just a loose canon
Daniel. I've been a fan of yours for a long time. I latched on to Phil Ivey when I first started playing poker about 15 years ago, but I LOVE your outlook and analysis of the game. You've been my favorite player to watch since I first saw you on TV. Poker isn't just about "playing the right cards", it's a people AND a math game. I would love to be able to sit down and chat with you some day about life while playing poker with you (even if I lose lol). Your positive attitude, intelligence, and personality are all great attributes of a role model ESPEICALLY compared to "brats" like Hellmuth who think they're God's gift to poker. Keep on doing what ya do Kid Poker!
Do an analysis of the JT fold on the turn KT59 Board with 6bbs? Genuinely love to know what you're thinking as you literally have no blinds and guaranteed equity.
@@dnegspoker Beautiful start to your answer. We all make mistakes, but buddy, come on with the follow up bs " I THINK I miscounted ow many bbs i had left". I THINK you're Daniel Fuckin Negreanu, You're an all time great. That's like Jack Nicklaus saying he forgot there's water on 16 at Augusta or MJ saying he forgot the score with 12 seconds left and the ball. Mate, you knew how many bigs you had, you made a mistake, we all do it.
@@davidhoekstra8671 Sure is, but come on, he didn't say he forgot how many bigs he had left, he said "I THINK I miscounted how many bigs I had left. David, come on now, when the best make a mistake they own it and move on. You ever hear a UFC fighter make up an excuse? They say if I'm in the octagon I'm good enough to fight. I gave him credit for admitting it's a mistake but I hate the bs excuse. Listen, I would make a million more mistakes then Dnegs would but the difference is I would own them and make no excuses.Don't get it twisted, I really like Daniel, I know he a really good person and treats animals well which is all I care about but I think that sometimes he needs to be a little more accepting that he can make common mistakes and doesn't know everything now that he's study a little theory. That's all, I wish the man and his family health, prosperity, and ever lasting happiness- truly
Phil is a sore winner and a sore loser! I was surprised when I met him in person and he was a very likable guy! Completely opposite of his TV personality!
At the table and on the TV is most likely for the attention. His created that image and sticks with it, which is fair enough, might as well keep to the script as it were. But people are gonna have that idea of him being a dickhead, cause most of us only see him on the TV
@@legendaryanime9947 So you think Phil isn't actually angry... he's just acting...? I don't know about you, but I can tell when a person is angry from the expressions on their face, the words they say, and the CONTEMPT in the tone of their voice. It doesn't look like he's acting to me. When you're really good at something, and you think someone made a mistake and still beat you, it makes you mad. So it's not like it's any surprise Phil is nice away from the table and then gets pissed at you at the table. It's not to manipulate you, it's because he has a fragile ego. Even he has admitted this in interviews.
@@PseudoAccurate not saying he isn't angry, I'm saying he goes over the top with it, cause it also makes for "good Tv". From what I can tell about Phil is he loves the spotlight, and pays heavy on his image as the "Poker Brat" to keep that spotlight on him. I know full well his one of the best in the world, not 'the best', but his up there. All the interviews and stuff that he does off the table is more then likely due to his image at the table, TV producer's love drama and people who make it. Which is why I imply it could be acting to a point, cause he needs to keep the image up. In my personal opinion, Phil is just stuck in the old ways and can't open his mind to newer ways to play the game. Which is what sets him off, cause his believing people should play by his standard's. There is also that "I'm greatest player ever" ego, which doesn't help. But hey, I'm only giving my opinion as a bystander. He does need to stop calling people idiots and such, it'll get him into more trouble then losing chips one day.
DNegs was always one of the best player's at figuring out opponents even 20 years ago, now he talks like Doug Polk but is still great at feeling out opponents
You see a man defending himself, most of us see a generous poker legend sharing detailed wisdom and insight against the record holding wsop bracelet winner
I think if I were Dnegs I would go into a rage rampage after that match. I hope he gets in good spirit before next match. As for PH, it’s really hard to understand how he got so successful with such a mindset. Great acgiever usually are very confident AND have a beginner mindset, considering that they can learn from anyone.
Like many others, I've always admired how you can so swiftly assess where you are likely to be in a hand. But truthfully, I also relish those times when this process fails, and you just have no idea what to do next. This video, while benefitting greatly from hindsight, still is greatly informative about poker at this level. Consider leaving Mr. Hellmuth's comments and rants out of the equation. "Here's some hands that might be controversial in terms of my logic, and this is why I played them as I did". Outclass him. In any event, this is very informative and entertaining, and I'm enjoying how your personality has solidified and (excuse the expression) matured. Win or lose, you are my favorite player to watch. Thank you for sharing.
I really respect Daniel Negreano as one of the greatest holdem players in the game ever. I would like to add none of this could be said about Phil Hellmouth...
Hi Daniel just a quick reminder that you're playing Phil Hellmuth, so if he has AK AQ on 443 you're not going to get more chips from him regardless of what you do ;)
This is great. Thanks a lot. Great insight into your thought process and very translatable to my own game. Which, incidentally, is improving a lot watching your videos.
Good video it's nice to see you're up to date with strategy. I think it was a good decision to take on the Doug Polk challenge for your career. Phil Helmuth will have to evolve and realize he's a but behind strategy and just a recreational player at this point.
Nice analysis, Daniel. I watched every hand of the match, my wife was bringing me snacks and drinks. Obviously, my only criticism was when you were 97-3 I think you failed to shut him down. That's easy to say from the bleachers, but I was screaming for you to barrel almost every time. Thanks for what I consider one of your best videos ever.
I didn't like your comments during the match with Doug and your complaints about luck etc., but I noticed you grew up in your HU game really well and started to be more humble in it. Great work Daniel, I was your big fan before, then stopped and after you humbled yourself I came back. Good luck in a grind!
durr beat him in NBC heads up years ago, hellmuth had aces, durr 10's all in preflop. durr ripped on phil for ripping on him saying "these internet idiots stacking off with 10's". meanwhile durr played and plays far better theoretical (i.e. going to kick phil's ass online heads up back then and now) players and beats them routinely, upon phil ripping on him challenged him to decently high stakes heads up any time, which phil never took him up on while still verbally berating durr and never backing that stuff up with matches.
Phil has a great record for tournament play and now heads up play. Phil Hellmuth will finish his career as one of the Best poker greats of all time. We all have to accept this today, tomorrow, and Forever. This will be a great High Stake Duel!! I have much respect for your play Daniel. I think you need to wear a Team Canada Jersey for the rematch because you play better in the past wearing Canada Jersey's. Bring a mix of the past to counter Phil's distractions. Something else added to the tool belt. What do you have to lose in trying? Keep your Stick on thee Ice.
I had friend with behavior like him he get so mad wen we played mortal combat he was like dude u have so much luck,i dont think its luck wen u dominate someone
yo, kid. thx so much for this. I ddn.t catch it live, but read articles afterwards. love the brat (much as any1 can...lol), but u.ve always been my fav. good luck on the rematch.
I started a poker vlog for Filipino poker players ( it is in Tagalog). I mentioned you as my first source of poker information. Back when you were still teaching small ball.
Most Importantly, The Jersey will make you feel more comfortable and play overall more passionately reminding you all Canadian's have your Back. Kill Phil with kindness and you will Win However if Phil Kills you with kindness then he will Win. God Bless Daniel and Phil and your Families. You both will go down as Poker Greats. Boooyeah! I'm starting the Masterclass soon and can't wait to try your winning strategies and winning mathematical decisions for reading peoples bets or cards better. I'm already Winning and will keep Winning with a Positive outlook. Phil's Book Positivity is Great!!
Tbh I have no idea how Daniels heads up game was before playing Doug. But it is funny now after studying and getting better every week for months during that challenge just seeing him talk circles around Phil’s petulance, talking about ranges etc. Guys come a long way which Doug even talked about in his post challenge video. Would bet DNegs for sure in the rematch. On top of that too seeing Daniel in his chess challenge. Not sure I overly like DNegs but his commitment to learning and getting better at whatever game he’s playing is admirable.
Phil deflects like the players who berate dealers for the cards they deal. Does not make sense, other than he has to diffuse his anger after a loss and cannot blame himself. It is not a meta game tactic to tilt the other player...it’s a meta game tactic to keep his ego intact. Great analysis Daniel - I like the flop betting size tips!!
Nice video and explanation of the hands. Calling the preflop raise with 6 4 suited was a bit borderline with the amount of chips Phil had but I couldn't see anything wrong with the way it was played after that. I tend to bleed chips making too many calls like that and there's just not enough payoff to make it worthwhile. Though doing it to Phil to watch him go off would make it worthwhile to play a bit looser.
Wow! How good is PH to come back and win the match. It seems like PH made a mid-game adjustment to wreck Dnegs. I thought Dnegs would destroy but got Destroyed. Wow! PH is just too good. He wins all the time. Cash Games-he wins! Tournament Games-he wins! He just keeps winning. Dnegs, Anonio, it doesn't matter. I thought Antonio and Dnegs would win but PH is simply a better poker player when it comes this tourney formats it appears?? Am I missing something here? Do not bet against Phil.
You should actually watch the match to see how it happened LOL. Even when he started winning pots by catching tons or rivers, he still was getting outplayed.
@@dnegspoker bro I can only speak for myself but I meant that sarcastically and I feel like the other guy meant it Sarcastically as well :D Or did you mean PH is just too good he wins all the time slashes all the people and all that serious? :D Also thanks for answering us Daniel :) Love your clips especially the older ones and the shitchat before the match started when Phil said all this with Apex predator and stuff was gold. Instant classic. Also when you gave the clinex to him I laughed so hard
@@burkhartlaw1 seems to know a lot??? How high are you? He’s #2 on live career poker tournament earnings. What the fuck have you done? He could lose for the next 10 years and he would be fine, he’s stupid rich. And he’s continuing to learn and study. I’m not even a huge fan of Dnegs, but sometimes you gotta give credit where credit is due.
@@michaelfink6748 it's *you're you idiot. Was 25,000 hands short term? Daniel got crushed by Polk and blamed luck. Now he had a huge lead (short term?) but choked. He's lost every single match. Roast away.
@@burkhartlaw1 you know back in the grinding days of online poker, some people would grind 600k hands a month. On average, regular grinders doing 250k hands a month. Imagine saying 25k is a large sample size lol
The K9 flop call is absolutely not a mandatory call. It's fine. It is just not mandatory... especially against someone like Phil. Against Doug... yes. Against Hellmuth... no.
It's a call, and you have it backwards... you should call PH 3-bets MORE often than Doug because of the way he constructs his 3-bets and how he plays OOP post flop. Frankly, I believe you could profit against PH by calling with any two suited cards, even 7-2.
@@dnegspoker Read the statement again, Daniel. The flop call is the very gray area (at best) against Hellmuth. Pre is absolutely fine. Post is fine against relentless aggro like Doug. Against Phil, calling that flop is a pretty lame loser.
Daniel if you look at him in the pocket nines hand i think you can see that phill would call the all in at the flop. from the outside just by looking at him it really feels like it. and hellmuth have got away from losing in those same spots so many times its really impressive just cos you and others overplay your own range and dont take the time to look at him for some seconds before acting. anw keep up the good work💪👊✌
The Hellmuth Dictionary defines _"idiot"_ as _"anyone that outplays him in any hand ever."_
Truest statement ever! Id Love to see that bag just leave the Damn game.
Yeah he’s a sore loser. Zero class. Called the poker brat for a reason. He’s a grown ass man acting like a brat.
From the Hellmuth dictionary: Bracelet (n) a worthless trinket that makes the wearer of it indefatigable.
The webster dictionary defines "idiot" as "phil helmuth"
Exactly, if he calls you an idiot that’s pretty much a compliment, it means you’ve outplayed the big donk
I'll give credit where it is due. Daniel's ability to grow, learn, and adapt to the evolving poker world is impressive. A decade ago I don't recall him ever talking about poker in a theoretical context. After the Doug heads-up match though... the change is impressive.
he made a mistake playing polk because why would you try to beat someone at their game? Polk is a heads up specialist
I’ve always thought dnegs is one of the best. His ability to put people on their exact hand often is uncanny. Loved watching you 10 years ago. Love watching you today.
@@userac-xpg Daniel can afford it easily, and playing one of the best in the world helps you grow and improve as a player.. nothing in playing Doug was a mistake, it was great for him for many reasons
He did talk about poker in theory years go when blogging, but his understanding in terms of poker theory has improved A LOT since then.
He wouldn’t have been where he was at a decade ago without theory. His RUclips presence may not have been big back then but he was definitely talking theory
This analysis is so amazingly beyond what I thought poker was... Makes me want to never play poker with anyone outside of my idiot friends lol
My mind began to spin.
yeah it’s crazy. & these are intermediate concepts now… it gets way deeper than this
Poker’s a beautiful game. Super deep at the highest levels, but still fun to play for any gambler.
It’s all relative to the table. Every table plays differently. As Dewey Tomko said in a recent interview, exploit the table to be a long term winning player. Can’t play the same way, regardless how advanced, at every table.
@Chevelle 1 That is why I find it so interesting to watch. I like when you can see all the players' cards and follow the play outs.
This is why I prefer PLO, Omaha and mixed games. The skills required to have a big edge in those games is non trivial, but to compete with even above average players in NL, you need to have a much deeper understanding of the game and of how people play. There is this also very annoying truth that due to implied odds, people who play "bad" poker do a lot better in NL, especially if they can read hands and opponents well.
I legit love Phil for this stuff. I'm not sure why I enjoy watching him blow up so much but I simply cant get enough.
so impressed how deeper your thinking is after the polk match. kid poker still improving, thats a scary idea.
... not learning/progressing/evolving is the first step towards losing ;-)
@gary ashe so you Think he played poorly?
@gary ashe yeah, taking the polk match not sure if thats good for game selection. maybe its a habit? u seem to know haha
@gary ashe doug polk is possibly the best heads up player in the world. Almost anyone loses to him
The Polk match wasn't skill. It was bingo. Online 6 hands at a time. Let them go heads up live and Daniel wins 9 out of 10.
Fascinating analysis. Completely enjoyed this. Phil is married to a psychiatrist. I am sure she advises him on how to behave to take the advantage. His histrionics are timed and well orchestrated. When he busts out, he has a couch to lie on.
I strongly doubt she advises him on how to throw tantrums to manipulate other players. Phil thinks he's better than everyone. The tantrums flow naturally.
@@PseudoAccurate to be fair, Phil did just beat Antonio and Negrranu. If Ivey joins and the offchance Ivey loses, it's fair to say Hellmuth is the GOAT. Annoying or not.
I'm not sure you know what a psychiatrist is, buddy.
@@mrheckles6076 Well nevertheless, I'd say a psychiatrist fits Phil very well
@@mrheckles6076 A psychiatrist puts you on Ritalin.
I'm really happy to see Daniel still being in touch with modern-day poker theory and learning more about the game. That's not common for "old heads" in any category. Guess his name Kid Poker helped him stay young and fresh!
Honestly love that he makes videos like this. Breaking down hands, breaking down plays. Things done right, things that could've been done better to make more money, watching him and videos about his calls and his abilities in the poker scene have made me watch and love poker even more.
Daniel: why would I not bet/call there?
Phil: BECAUSE YOURE SUPPOSED TO LOSE TO ME!
Now!! That is the truth of Phil.
Hr did lose to Phil. 3 times in a row. So has Jungleman, Antonio, and the great Polk. That range BS causes u to overthink your play.
DNegs without sleeves, with all this new GTO play he's actually turning into Doug Polk.
We need to bump this comment up so he can see it 😂
Lmao!
No way 😂😂
It’s gross...little girl arms
don't say it! doug could NEVER pull of the dnegs. too much insecurity and cheeseball humor and not enough cool collectiveness and matter-of-factness.
You and Phil are how I started watching poker 20 years ago, and are still my favorite people to watch to this day!
“You’ve been lucky your whole life vs me Daniel” Phil loves that one ;-). Look forward to #2 and best wishes
Phil really comes off as a guy that if you don’t play the numbers like he see’s then you don’t know how to play poker. But isn’t a part of poker playing the person just as much as the hand and numbers?
I appreciate how positive and cool you are in every situation. I appreciate the knowledge you give
Poker is 99% numbers. Hence why all the top players today are online crushers and the old live players are gone with the dust.
"Smashing phones..,throwing chairs. ." 🤼♂️..🤼♀️.....
Daniel, you play poker at an insanely high level. Most of us watching will never be able to play 86s profitably.
You shouldn't be folding suited connectors heads-up in position at any level.
Dnegs I cant' believe your giving Phil this insight, he's going to start calling in position with 6 8 suited now 😂😂
You know .... roles reversed and Phil probably does call ... it's only idiotic when someone else does it.
Phil would need to reach some level of spiritual enlightenment to play like that lol
Phil is already set in the way he plays bcoz he can’t get past the emotion of it, it’s the “This always happens to me syndrome”. Like he wants to go off. Haha...
I think Phil only watches himself online.
one of the best videos i saw so far from dneg. well atitude, straight and good explanations
It is really cool that pros share their thought process. If I was a pro, I'd be hesitant to let other pros know what I was thinking during a session against them. Of course Daniel probably has another 10 levels of knowledge he isn't sharing.
He's not sharing secrets. The other top pros know the same theory. The ones that don't aren't a threat.
@@OneEyedJack01 He meant sharing it with everyone, not just pros. Obviously pros know this stuff.
@@TonyEnglandUK Yeah, but what are the probabilities that any of us will be in a HU-position against Daniel or Phil 🙂
It seems to me that dnegs is the only old school pro that has adapted to poker in 2021. I’d love to see Phil Helmuth play 100 tournaments against the best online tournament players in the world. It would be a massacre.
I'm trying to bet him on exactly that and laid 2-1!
He got smashed online by Polk. Cmon, man.
@@leemer First, I love Doug Polk. Second, The complexity of heads up poker is mind blowing and he faced one of the all time best hunl players. It was obvious to everyone (almost everyone) that he studied with solvers, coaches and improved his hu game tremendously. Whether he won or lost shouldn’t matter to him because there won’t be many, if any, mtt players that will have studied hu postflop and then got real experience by applying what he learned against the best. He was already a great mtt player, so imagine what he can do now that he developed a skill that almost all mtt players lack which is postflop play. It’s such an advantage to have that ability when the rest of us are still applying preflop concepts and have a vague idea of what postflop actually is. Would you want him on your left in an mtt? C’mon man, recognize what he did and how it applies to his overall ability. Short term loss, long term win.
@@dougr642 everything you just said is nonsense. I watched this video too and it's pretty bad. I want to like Negreanu, but the guy is a sore loser for sure. He doesn't understand online poker at all from what we saw against Doug. It was karma that he lost this way to Phil.
@@leemer I tried googling your name with poker and didn’t find anything. So now I’m thinking you’re a “chat pro”, I could be wrong (I often am) but usually your kind of “analysis” indicates a straight down poker graph. I hope that’s not the case. I hope you do well at poker. What did he do against Doug that makes you think he doesn’t understand online poker? Give details. I study. I belong to a study group as well and we are always willing to learn. So enlighten me.
Thank you for the match with Phil :) It was fun to watch. I ordered PokerGo just to watch it. Phil is a dangerous short stack player. Just facts. I think you are a much better player overall Daniel.
There were multiple great points made in this video regarding deep stack vs other when it comes to heads up play, especially the part about not thinking in terms of the actual chip amount of the 3 bet, but how many big blinds you were already in for at the point, and assessing whether to make the call. Thank you for posting ♦️ ♣️ ♦️
Really enjoyed watching the match. I do think Phil gets undervalued in heads up. He does have the results. Lol 4-0 just in the heads up dual.
I think the best play of the match was Negreanus poker face at the beginning when Phil's giving his speech
We can’t be all “Loosey goosey when we’re short stacked”, but can we at least be “on our phones, having a sandwich”?
@martin edwards lol he’d lose his shit
Is this a reference to the poker master class commercial?
@@broadland6294 yeah lol
@@Gos1234567😐
I think Phil plays a certain style and it works for him , sure he has been lucky in spots when he hit a flush on the river and the hand when he had a higher flush draw with a gootshot , but in a long run he makes his style work and as a tournament player he is there .
Phil as great of a tournament poker player as he is, seems to struggle with adjusting to how people currently think and play the game. The perfect example of "you can't teach an old dog new tricks".
yeah but he keeps winning bracelets, he has won 4 in the last 3 years, so he is doing something right. But yes in cash games he struggles to adapt to the new gto strategy that has been configured into the modern players way of playing.
That's such a nonsense statement! Phil is rich, doesn't need cash games! He wants bracelets. Sponsorships make him all the money he might make in cash games. Nobodies need cash games. Not Phil.
He's terrible at poker in general. Binked a few small field high buyin tourneys to win 2 bracelets early, then kinda played in every WSOP tourney possibly over 30 years and somehow only managed to win 16 bracelets total. Any average player can win 16 out of like 10000 events...so saying he has bracelets is not impressive at all. Statistically thats way less wins than any average player would have. If you bought in a sub-average 1/2 cash player into as many WSOP events as he'd played, I guarantee they'd have more than 16 bracelets in 30 years....
you do it then
@@razersedge2k974 time will tell and back in the day when 300 players played the main event, all 300 were considered the best players in the world, not like now where 3/4 of the field are there like it was a lottery ticket. And there's like hundreds of poker games now and chances to win bracelets. Back in the 80's and 90's there were less than 25 events per year now its over 100. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Series_of_Poker#:~:text=As%20of%202020%2C%20the%20WSOP%20consists%20of%20101,days%20during%20the%20series%20in%20June%20and%20July. Phil's were hard-earned bracelets. Thats where you are wrong.
Love watching you Daniel! You are my favorite poker player! Love when Phil blows up!
I was watching the Heads Up at the Rio in 2019 and far across I hear "What kind of idiot doesn't fold a three bet with 7-8 off suit," and then a bunch of other stuff, just as Helmuth was standing up throwing his hands into the air and ...well you know the rest. My wife asked me who was that. I said, that is my uncle Walt playing pinochle crying and complaining all the way to 100.
I have to be honest before even watching this hellmuth seems like a legend and someone who would school alot of big players because his play seems to be different and highly active and accuses ppl of being dumb when he plays trash occasionally too and wins pots doing it. Love seeing you two play 1 man methodical 1 just a loose canon
Good video, Daniel, and agree with your points. I’m reminded of the “he called a raise w Q10 honey” hand with Phil complaining about standard plays.
I think I saw that video today! A sure sign I have to stop procrastinating
Daniel. I've been a fan of yours for a long time. I latched on to Phil Ivey when I first started playing poker about 15 years ago, but I LOVE your outlook and analysis of the game. You've been my favorite player to watch since I first saw you on TV. Poker isn't just about "playing the right cards", it's a people AND a math game. I would love to be able to sit down and chat with you some day about life while playing poker with you (even if I lose lol). Your positive attitude, intelligence, and personality are all great attributes of a role model ESPEICALLY compared to "brats" like Hellmuth who think they're God's gift to poker.
Keep on doing what ya do Kid Poker!
Phil be like “son I would never put more than 500 in the pot with 6-8 son” 😂😂
"Y- Youre youre the sucker calling with 86 suited, we'll see if youre even around in five years" Phil is my fav player of all time lmfao
Tom Dwan: "It's a standard play".😝
_"You probably can't even spell pokar"_
LMAO
Great theatre but in the end it was like napoleons retreat from Moscow five hours of agony ....Phil’s comeback sort of astonishing
Do an analysis of the JT fold on the turn KT59 Board with 6bbs?
Genuinely love to know what you're thinking as you literally have no blinds and guaranteed equity.
I was going to ask this exact question, I thought it was less bbs.
That was a mistake I think I miscounted how many bbs I had left
@@dnegspoker Beautiful start to your answer. We all make mistakes, but buddy, come on with the follow up bs " I THINK I miscounted ow many bbs i had left". I THINK you're Daniel Fuckin Negreanu, You're an all time great. That's like Jack Nicklaus saying he forgot there's water on 16 at Augusta or MJ saying he forgot the score with 12 seconds left and the ball. Mate, you knew how many bigs you had, you made a mistake, we all do it.
@@MaximusMerideus Bull, even the greatest make elementary blunders sometimes. It's part of being human.
@@davidhoekstra8671 Sure is, but come on, he didn't say he forgot how many bigs he had left, he said "I THINK I miscounted how many bigs I had left. David, come on now, when the best make a mistake they own it and move on. You ever hear a UFC fighter make up an excuse? They say if I'm in the octagon I'm good enough to fight. I gave him credit for admitting it's a mistake but I hate the bs excuse. Listen, I would make a million more mistakes then Dnegs would but the difference is I would own them and make no excuses.Don't get it twisted, I really like Daniel, I know he a really good person and treats animals well which is all I care about but I think that sometimes he needs to be a little more accepting that he can make common mistakes and doesn't know everything now that he's study a little theory. That's all, I wish the man and his family health, prosperity, and ever lasting happiness- truly
Phil is a sore winner and a sore loser! I was surprised when I met him in person and he was a very likable guy! Completely opposite of his TV personality!
from all indications, and hearing people talk about him, Phil is a great guy away from the table, just a real "donkey" at the table.
How long did you talk with him?
At the table and on the TV is most likely for the attention. His created that image and sticks with it, which is fair enough, might as well keep to the script as it were. But people are gonna have that idea of him being a dickhead, cause most of us only see him on the TV
@@legendaryanime9947 So you think Phil isn't actually angry... he's just acting...? I don't know about you, but I can tell when a person is angry from the expressions on their face, the words they say, and the CONTEMPT in the tone of their voice. It doesn't look like he's acting to me.
When you're really good at something, and you think someone made a mistake and still beat you, it makes you mad. So it's not like it's any surprise Phil is nice away from the table and then gets pissed at you at the table. It's not to manipulate you, it's because he has a fragile ego. Even he has admitted this in interviews.
@@PseudoAccurate not saying he isn't angry, I'm saying he goes over the top with it, cause it also makes for "good Tv". From what I can tell about Phil is he loves the spotlight, and pays heavy on his image as the "Poker Brat" to keep that spotlight on him.
I know full well his one of the best in the world, not 'the best', but his up there. All the interviews and stuff that he does off the table is more then likely due to his image at the table, TV producer's love drama and people who make it. Which is why I imply it could be acting to a point, cause he needs to keep the image up.
In my personal opinion, Phil is just stuck in the old ways and can't open his mind to newer ways to play the game. Which is what sets him off, cause his believing people should play by his standard's. There is also that "I'm greatest player ever" ego, which doesn't help. But hey, I'm only giving my opinion as a bystander.
He does need to stop calling people idiots and such, it'll get him into more trouble then losing chips one day.
Glad you finally got a good mic. Sounds so much better.
Holly crap, this is one of the best poker analysis videos I've ever seen! 🔥🔥🔥
That one dislike must be hellmuth😅
Helmuth, perkins, esfandiari, selbst, tony g, cuz he beat them in boobys room
Haha
Hellmuth has no youtube. He probaly thinks the remote control is a laptop.
😅😂🤣
I love watching that dude get tilted lol
DNegs was always one of the best player's at figuring out opponents even 20 years ago, now he talks like Doug Polk but is still great at feeling out opponents
Daniel. I feel like you don’t need to explain yourself. We love you 💕
Youre right, he doesnt need to...he chose to...
You see a man defending himself, most of us see a generous poker legend sharing detailed wisdom and insight against the record holding wsop bracelet winner
Daniel! I love the new D!!! This has changed your career for the better. Thank you Doug for making Daniel relevant agin!
I think if I were Dnegs I would go into a rage rampage after that match. I hope he gets in good spirit before next match. As for PH, it’s really hard to understand how he got so successful with such a mindset. Great acgiever usually are very confident AND have a beginner mindset, considering that they can learn from anyone.
Because he’s the best
@@colewogan2006 He reaaaaaaally isn't the best today by any mean or any metric. But he is excellent nonetheless.
Like many others, I've always admired how you can so swiftly assess where you are likely to be in a hand. But truthfully, I also relish those times when this process fails, and you just have no idea what to do next. This video, while benefitting greatly from hindsight, still is greatly informative about poker at this level. Consider leaving Mr. Hellmuth's comments and rants out of the equation. "Here's some hands that might be controversial in terms of my logic, and this is why I played them as I did". Outclass him. In any event, this is very informative and entertaining, and I'm enjoying how your personality has solidified and (excuse the expression) matured. Win or lose, you are my favorite player to watch. Thank you for sharing.
Daniel's view about Phil's play is so spot on :)
I love how spot on you are about situational reads. I love this game!
Daniel I love all of your analysis and how deep you get into the strategy behind how you play the hands. Very useful information
Thanks for the vlog! Phil is who he is and if anyone asked me I'd call him a lousy player. As a Canadian - kick his ass!
Your analysis is always so interesting to listen to, you also played really well overall imo.
There's a reason he's higher in lifetime earnings than Phil
folding K9 with 300bb isn't "white magic" is apex predator king kong next level shit
Your biggest mistake is thinking that Phil actually thinks when he plays.
Lol :D
Hellmuth swept all matches with Negreanu. People keep putti g Hell down but the dudes one of the GOATS for a reason
@@nickh4676 he's lucky asf. It's comical that he thinks he isn't.
@@johnshogskins4443 With all honesty somebody who has won 16 wsop bracelets is not just lucky.
@@fabrizioivanlopezparzajuk5424 yes, they're extremely lucky.
Was bloody awesome seeing you get your mouth shut after calling a shut out match.
I really respect Daniel Negreano as one of the greatest holdem players in the game ever. I would like to add none of this could be said about Phil Hellmouth...
Thanks for the excellent content. Really good to hear how you think through the hands. Very educational.
Hi Daniel just a quick reminder that you're playing Phil Hellmuth, so if he has AK AQ on 443 you're not going to get more chips from him regardless of what you do ;)
This is great. Thanks a lot. Great insight into your thought process and very translatable to my own game. Which, incidentally, is improving a lot watching your videos.
Good game, Daniel! I like your amazing sense of humor and playstyle.
Good video it's nice to see you're up to date with strategy. I think it was a good decision to take on the Doug Polk challenge for your career. Phil Helmuth will have to evolve and realize he's a but behind strategy and just a recreational player at this point.
Wtf are you smoking? Please share.
Nice analysis, Daniel. I watched every hand of the match, my wife was bringing me snacks and drinks. Obviously, my only criticism was when you were 97-3 I think you failed to shut him down. That's easy to say from the bleachers, but I was screaming for you to barrel almost every time. Thanks for what I consider one of your best videos ever.
I don't really follow poker, haven't played much since college, but I really find your videos so easy to watch and you're a great host.
I bet Phil secretly watches your videos lol.
I didn't like your comments during the match with Doug and your complaints about luck etc., but I noticed you grew up in your HU game really well and started to be more humble in it. Great work Daniel, I was your big fan before, then stopped and after you humbled yourself I came back. Good luck in a grind!
Why did Phil get so upset when you asked him about Durrr coaching him? .. That was very odd. He was bizarrely angry at that comment.
because durr wouldnt shake his hand 12 years ago when he asked him to shake is dads hand
durr beat him in NBC heads up years ago, hellmuth had aces, durr 10's all in preflop. durr ripped on phil for ripping on him saying "these internet idiots stacking off with 10's". meanwhile durr played and plays far better theoretical (i.e. going to kick phil's ass online heads up back then and now) players and beats them routinely, upon phil ripping on him challenged him to decently high stakes heads up any time, which phil never took him up on while still verbally berating durr and never backing that stuff up with matches.
Phil has a great record for tournament play and now heads up play. Phil Hellmuth will finish his career as one of the Best poker greats of all time. We all have to accept this today, tomorrow, and Forever. This will be a great High Stake Duel!!
I have much respect for your play Daniel. I think you need to wear a Team Canada Jersey for the rematch because you play better in the past wearing Canada Jersey's. Bring a mix of the past to counter Phil's distractions. Something else added to the tool belt.
What do you have to lose in trying?
Keep your Stick on thee Ice.
I had friend with behavior like him he get so mad wen we played mortal combat he was like dude u have so much luck,i dont think its luck wen u dominate someone
@@supremeleaderarmy9164 that happens in poker some times u feel unstoppble everything is going on u way
Super cool...love to see you Zoom Phil in and jawbone it back and forth.
As always love you breaking down you thought process Daniel thank you
A lot of people think that poker is just a game of luck. This video shows just how clever professional players are. Great video. 👍
"He called with Q/10 honey" , " these stupid players trying to give me all their money." Phil Helmuth
Classic...the old video where Phil is picking his butt talking to some hottie still makes me tear up lol
@@SJtoobsox plz post a link that sounds pretty damn funny.
@@SJtoobsox send me the link lmao
yo, kid. thx so much for this. I ddn.t catch it live, but read articles afterwards. love the brat (much as any1 can...lol), but u.ve always been my fav. good luck on the rematch.
It seems ABC but we can't even understand Phil, he is beyond the curve
He is apex predator shit
@Centurian they are just joking dude something that happens a lot on the internet 😂
@Centurian 😂 Not sure if you're trolling or a casual
I like this Daniel more than Dong's Daniel. Cool, Calm, Collected and Confident.
Daniel:
Me:
Respect for your thinking. Great players can be seen even when losing and non thinkers win
Extremely intelligent poker, very well explained...
It just proves that poker is a skill game and not just about luck
I started a poker vlog for Filipino poker players ( it is in Tagalog). I mentioned you as my first source of poker information. Back when you were still teaching small ball.
You’re not an idiot, you just got match with an Apex Predator aka King Kong
Spoiler Alert: Kong lost
@@kieranczyzniejewski2178 Not sure you’ve heard but all King Kong does is win
Most Importantly, The Jersey will make you feel more comfortable and play overall more passionately reminding you all Canadian's have your Back. Kill Phil with kindness and you will Win However if Phil Kills you with kindness then he will Win.
God Bless Daniel and Phil and your Families.
You both will go down as Poker Greats.
Boooyeah!
I'm starting the Masterclass soon and can't wait to try your winning strategies and winning mathematical decisions for reading peoples bets or cards better. I'm already Winning and will keep Winning with a Positive outlook. Phil's Book Positivity is Great!!
It’s embarrassing the way Hellmuth carries on like a child. If he wants others to play differently so he doesn’t lose then maybe he is the problem.
Daniel is my favorite poker player to watch and I've been watching way too long!
Daniel: Phil, I'm terribly sorry I'm not playing the way you think I should...........BTW.....Kiss my big ole' hairy butt!
Phil:
Tbh I have no idea how Daniels heads up game was before playing Doug. But it is funny now after studying and getting better every week for months during that challenge just seeing him talk circles around Phil’s petulance, talking about ranges etc. Guys come a long way which Doug even talked about in his post challenge video. Would bet DNegs for sure in the rematch.
On top of that too seeing Daniel in his chess challenge. Not sure I overly like DNegs but his commitment to learning and getting better at whatever game he’s playing is admirable.
his 3betting range is entirely feel based (which he's admitted of course).
Phil deflects like the players who berate dealers for the cards they deal. Does not make sense, other than he has to diffuse his anger after a loss and cannot blame himself. It is not a meta game tactic to tilt the other player...it’s a meta game tactic to keep his ego intact. Great analysis Daniel - I like the flop betting size tips!!
Can we just appreciate how cool it is to play against a fella and then afterwards tactically analyse their plays to tell people why they're dogshit 😂
23 mill net worth is hardly dog shit 😂..
Lol. Yeah, and also be the loser.
Nice video and explanation of the hands. Calling the preflop raise with 6 4 suited was a bit borderline with the amount of chips Phil had but I couldn't see anything wrong with the way it was played after that. I tend to bleed chips making too many calls like that and there's just not enough payoff to make it worthwhile. Though doing it to Phil to watch him go off would make it worthwhile to play a bit looser.
Wow! How good is PH to come back and win the match. It seems like PH made a mid-game adjustment to wreck Dnegs. I thought Dnegs would destroy but got Destroyed. Wow! PH is just too good. He wins all the time. Cash Games-he wins! Tournament Games-he wins! He just keeps winning. Dnegs, Anonio, it doesn't matter. I thought Antonio and Dnegs would win but PH is simply a better poker player when it comes this tourney formats it appears?? Am I missing something here? Do not bet against Phil.
Apex predator white magic king kong shit
You should actually watch the match to see how it happened LOL. Even when he started winning pots by catching tons or rivers, he still was getting outplayed.
@@dnegspoker bro I can only speak for myself but I meant that sarcastically and I feel like the other guy meant it Sarcastically as well :D
Or did you mean PH is just too good he wins all the time slashes all the people and all that serious? :D
Also thanks for answering us Daniel :)
Love your clips especially the older ones and the shitchat before the match started when Phil said all this with Apex predator and stuff was gold. Instant classic. Also when you gave the clinex to him I laughed so hard
@@dnegspoker also that part with mid game adjustments I felt like was a joke about how lucky he got :D it s hard to tell through the internet :D
Daniel, let me just tell you that your videos are really great. Awsome explanations of the hands played. Such an previledge to get access to this.
Thanks for the content Daniel!
This man is literally a masterclass into poker...dannnnng
This video is a clear example of Daniel improving immensely on his theoretical game as opposed to Phil, who is too good to study.
Daniel seems to think he knows a lot for a guy who keeps losing badly
@@burkhartlaw1 seems to know a lot??? How high are you? He’s #2 on live career poker tournament earnings. What the fuck have you done? He could lose for the next 10 years and he would be fine, he’s stupid rich. And he’s continuing to learn and study. I’m not even a huge fan of Dnegs, but sometimes you gotta give credit where credit is due.
@@burkhartlaw1 and imagine getting caught up in short term results. I’m guessing your new to poker so I’ll refrain from roasting your ass
@@michaelfink6748 it's *you're you idiot.
Was 25,000 hands short term? Daniel got crushed by Polk and blamed luck. Now he had a huge lead (short term?) but choked. He's lost every single match. Roast away.
@@burkhartlaw1 you know back in the grinding days of online poker, some people would grind 600k hands a month. On average, regular grinders doing 250k hands a month. Imagine saying 25k is a large sample size lol
I've played for years but always learn something from you sir. Mahalo!!!👍🤙👊💯
1:00 Dude. If you get into a deep-state cash game you gotta let us know. 😆
Daniel you're my favorite poker player by far dude, but that was one serious comeback
The K9 flop call is absolutely not a mandatory call. It's fine. It is just not mandatory... especially against someone like Phil. Against Doug... yes. Against Hellmuth... no.
He didn’t say mandatory he said standard
He was talking about it from a game theory perspective so yea it’s a call
It's a call, and you have it backwards... you should call PH 3-bets MORE often than Doug because of the way he constructs his 3-bets and how he plays OOP post flop. Frankly, I believe you could profit against PH by calling with any two suited cards, even 7-2.
@@dnegspoker Read the statement again, Daniel. The flop call is the very gray area (at best) against Hellmuth. Pre is absolutely fine. Post is fine against relentless aggro like Doug. Against Phil, calling that flop is a pretty lame loser.
It's a fist pump call lol
Greatest hand-reader in professional poker history...Daniel Negreanu
"He blows up over the most standard spots"
Isn't this what Polk said about you repeatedly?
Daniel if you look at him in the pocket nines hand i think you can see that phill would call the all in at the flop. from the outside just by looking at him it really feels like it. and hellmuth have got away from losing in those same spots so many times its really impressive just cos you and others overplay your own range and dont take the time to look at him for some seconds before acting. anw keep up the good work💪👊✌
Phil Hellmuth is the GOAT. you gto guys cant win him in live poker. He has proved this many many times
Thank you for this video. This actually puts a lot of Phil's blow-ups into perspective and why he gets mad at the strangest of hands.
I'm still in shock that Daniel didn't win this match